Aug 15th, 2013


Yesterday the Media Create numbers for Japan were released, showing off the top 20 game sales ranks for the week in the country. Yakuza HD did not find itself in that list, but today it appears the game wasn’t even in the top 50 for the region. According to Dengeki, the 50th best selling game only moved 1878 units, meaning Yakuza HD sold even less.

Since this Japanese release was supposed to be a litmus test of whether the rest of the world would receive the bundle, I think it’s safe to say this is considered a failure and likely won’t see release outside of Japan unless some miracle happens.

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  • wober2

    Oh shit, is it the small console base? Or was there something about the game?

    • It’s an HD re-release of two games that used to be on PS2 if I’m not mistaken.

      • Archiq09

        it’s Yakuza 1&2 HD yes

      • Robert

        Yeah, I feel bad for the developers, but honestly I don’t give a shit about HD remakes. I’m not even sure if I’ll buy wind waker (though I’m sure it will do well). There are just so many games I haven’t played that it’s hard to want to play a game again just because it’s in HD, especially when that requires buying it again at full retail price.

        • Arthur Jarret

          The HD remake of Ducktales is pretty good, though – I recommend it.

          I recommend the HD remake of Oddworld: Abe’s oddyssey (called ‘New ‘n tasty’) too.

          I really like the collections, though – I didn’t have a ps2 when it was relevant – so I missed out on a lot of titles, the collections on PS3 seriously helped me to get a complete metal gear collection, play zone of the enders, shadow of the collossus etc.

          Usually games like this retail for 30 or 40 bucks, basically 15 bucks for each game with a nice resolution upscale, that costs 10 bucks used on the original system (and is on a scratch-sensitive disc)

      • Rugmouse

        This is what I’ve read as well. To give you a better idea of how uphill this release really was, back in November of last year the HD re-release hit Playstation 3. Chances are anybody that actually wanted the redone version took advantage then (assuming they have a PS3, that is).

        • wober2

          Makes sense… Nintendo doesnt market these ports well either. They appear as old ports trying to fill the lack of games for the console rather than… how they stage their virtual console content which feels like a museum of interesting content.

          • Rugmouse

            True – I also just realized Yakuza 3 and 4 are PS3 games…any true fan of the franchise is almost guaranteed to have a PS3. Who is going to buy this on Wii U?

          • C4

            “Who is going to buy this on Wii U?”

            Except the few hundred who bought it who are probably collectors and fans of the franchise πŸ˜›

            I wonder what would have happened if they include an improved version of Yakuza 3, though. Kind of like a remaster with full Wii U features (GamePad and whatever else) – that would have been interesting IMHO even for people who own the PS3 version.

    • wober2

      Did the other HD remasters, metal gear, shadow of the colossus, devil may cry, zone of enders… also open this poorly?

      • Michael DeVore

        Metal Gear Solid – Japan .78M
        MSG HD psv – Japan .04M or 5% of original
        MGS HD ps3 – Japan .1M or 12% of original

        It would take a while to look up all of those, but it’s not usually good.

  • sdmac200600

    Welp…There goes localization

  • Archiq09

    I think people want more Yakuza 5 on Wii U to Yakuza 1&2 HD.

  • Deadpool U

    Woah that sucks but who knows maybe if gets better advertisement it’ll break 50.

    • Baum γ€Œγƒ„γƒͺー」

      it GOT advertised on TV (and the ad was hilarious) But if it’s really been released on PS3 just last year than it’s pretty stupid to expect to sell a lot on another System anyway :/

  • Michael DeVore

    It’s an HD re-release. On that simple fact alone I can say I’d expect sales to be low. Look at all the re-release, remake, or remix that aren’t an entirely new game, and you’ll see that they rarely do better than 25% sales of the original, and frequently do less than 5% of the original.

    However, I believe the US has never had Yakuza 1 so it would at least have the chance in the US Market.

  • MichaelEhrgott

    Never played the original two games so I don’t know whether to be shocked or not.

  • Mitchell

    I think because is a port of an old game, they’re just trying to make extra cash on Nintendo consoles now.
    Besides, they don’t seem to use the Wii u capabilities, it’s just a lazy game port

    • Optimist
      • Elem187

        I’m confused, I didn’t see how they incorporated the Wii remote nor the gamepad in this screenshot.
        Nintendo’s uniqueness is their input devices.

  • Jimmy D. Fugate

    It didn’t sell just because it was an HD remaster but because it was an HD remaster that was already put on PS3 last year…

    • Sidney Majurie

      … that didn’t sell well on the PS3 either.

  • Jake

    I have an idea. Lets pick an Xbox/ps3 game that has came out in the past year and put it on the wii u. And don’t be silly, the graphics will be the same, maybe worse, put 1 new feature like a new attack that makes the game 100x easier and don’t use the gamepad unless you put something useless on it. We will say it is a remaster or ultimate version. If it does not sell 1 million the wii u has only kids and casuals.

    • Elem187

      You pretty much figured out the game these publishers play.
      Ubisoft is using Splinter Cell as a test bed…. the game is going to bomb so hard.

      • Andreas Sunde

        Splinter Cell seems awesome, though. And it’s released simultaneously across all systems. The only thing missing is local co-op, which should be easily patchable.
        They also have Rayman Legends, ACIV, and Watch Dogs to test with. All of which seems to be the definitive version, judging from their praise of the gamepad features.
        I’d like the Division, though.

  • This sucks. I was looking forward to trying it out. Looks like no NA release for me. πŸ™

  • RoboticLink

    Wow! This game didn’t sell well?

    • jay

      Reading the title of this article made me question something:

      How much would a developer lose if they were to distribute the game digitally outside Japan?

      Certainly it wouldn’t cost as much and it would give the few who anticipated the title a chance to purchase the game and return a profit.

      • Mykdee

        If its not selling in Japan…probably not a good business move. Sometimes its better to just walk away, and start fresh.

    • Clel

      They really expected a port of a remake of a game on a console whose successor still isn’t out yet to be successful?

    • Zelda6478

      Its rather comical that this game was release on Wii U after it was release many years ago on XBox 360 and PS3. Seems like a lot of software companies like doing this with Wii U and selling it at full price.

  • Agent721

    No loss for me…tried the demo of the PS3 a while back and I thought it sucked. Its like a weak ass version of GTA. I was throroughly disappointed.

  • Graeme Lynch

    I love how people are saying things like ‘I don’t care it’s only a rerelease of a game’. If that’s the case then why are people then complaining that WiiU isn’t getting 3rd party support. Even if it is a release of a game that was released for ps3 last November doesn’t mean it’s inconsequential. Sega purposely released the game to see how Yakuza sells on the system. I assume to figure out if its worthwhile to release Yakuza 5 on WiiU. Lets stop with the cherry picking please. I personally feel disappointed by the lack of sales as it means I won’t get to play it and lowers chances of future games being released. But hey who cares because it’s only a port and it obviously doesn’t convey a poor representation of the WiiU market…

    • Anthony Franqui

      Well you aren’t Japanese though, so you probably weren’t going to play it to begin with on your Wii U because of region locking…..

      • Graeme Lynch

        Uh I would have if it had sold well enough for them to release it in the West. Or here is another idea. Nintendo could quit the whole region locking fiasco. That is besides my point of people complaining of lack of support on this website but are very quick to condem 3rd party support which doesn’t fit into their ideological criteria.

        • Anthony Franqui

          That was a really big maybe. I mean they haven’t even localized Yakuza 5 on PS3

    • Rugmouse

      I get what you’re saying, but my grief is with how the whole situation was handled. Re-releases are already subject to a fraction of the initial game’s sales. Couple that with a staggered console release schedule and you’re setting the latter console up for even less success.

      At minimum, the HD versions should have been released at the same time for both PS3 and Wii U. That way owners of both consoles can choose which console they would like the game on – and I’m sure many would choose Wii U, as it is next gen (this way they can pack away their old console). This release almost guarantees fans will buy the game for their PS3, because of the wide gap in release dates.

      I believe your assessment of Sega’s motives are sound, and the lack of sales for the Wii U are an issue. It’s the execution that is bothering me.

      • Graeme Lynch

        I agree with you here. It’s true that they should’ve been released at the same time. My fantasy is that Sega didn’t want to do so to limit potential loses as a launch title. Especially when there was supposed to be so many solid games within the launch window (a fact that I am still sore about).
        I think we all know that this is likely to be spun in a negative way that the WiiU does not have a substantial ‘mature’ market.

    • Sidney Majurie

      Japanese gamers don’t even care about this series. Third party support isn’t releasing upscaled PS2 games on Wii U. Sega is bringing Sonic, that’s the kind of 3rd Party support we should care about, not some obscure series that doesn’t even sell that well in Japan…

      • Graeme Lynch

        Um are you on crack? Yakuza is a very successful franchise in Japan so I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about. No we should care about every release from 3rd party developers at this moment because it does nothing to improve the WiiU reputation and opinion by shrugging shoulders. It’s not as if there is an abundance of games for the WiiU so something like this will have a negative impact.

        • Sidney Majurie

          I checked the numbers, but perhaps you have some different facts. You lost the chance at respectful discourse with the phrase “Um are you on crack?”

          So we’re done here.

          • Graeme Lynch

            Apparently my humour doesn’t translate very well. Or you’re rather dramatic. I would like to hear what facts you have however. Yakuza 3 being the 2nd best selling game for ps3 in 2009 seems successful to me. As does the entire franchise being successful enough to receive a western release.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’ll go with dramatic. I never cared about the series, but it is certainly popular in Japan. Even some franchises hit and miss on occcasion.

          • Sidney Majurie

            “I’ll go with dramatic.”

            Damn dude you’re obsessed with me huh? You gotta “White Knight” for everyone I disagree with, LOL.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Lol. If ya say so dude. I don’t recall responding to every post or everyone you disagree with since I’m not on this site 24/7 considering I have a life outside the internet. πŸ™‚

            I agree with him, nothing more. If you think that I have something against you, then apparently you’re the one with the problem. Not nice to assume. I suppose psychology doesn’t teach you that one.

            All jokes aside, grow up and enough with the cute white knight obsession. It only makes you look desperate to defend yourself. If you can’t handle someone saying “are you on crack” and not ignore it, shows that you can’t handle criticism that comes your way. You don’t see me insulting you right? Exactly. That’s something that you decided to do first.

            The franchise is popular in Japan, and also keep in mind that Japan is a small country so it’s not gonna sell huge.

            Now let go of your obvious grudge and move on and play nice. Just because I called you dramatic(which I feel you are at times) doesn’t mean I have something against you. That’s just the normal assumption that people seem to go with. If you can’t respond like an adult, then any further comments will be ignored. Good day. πŸ™‚

          • Sidney Majurie

            PS3 Install base in Japan: 9 million (77 Million Worldwide)

            Yakuza 1&2 HD Collection (PS3) 110, 000

            Yakuza 3 (PS3) 1 million

            Yakuza 4 (PS3) 880,000

            Yakuza: Dead Souls (PS3) 540,000

            Yakuza 5: 580,000

            Again, perhaps you have different numbers…
            Perhaps you’re confusing financial success (budget to sales ratio for the company) with popular success (number of gamers who actually buy the game).

          • C4

            1 million is a success. That’s around the same or even more then Resident Evil (Biohazard) 6 or Metal Gear Solid 4 in Japan. Y5 sales look a bit disappointing and unlike 4 and DS I can’t think of a good reason for a decrease in sales.

          • Tails the Foxhound

            RE 6 was a bomb, it posted terrible numbers for the franchise.

          • Graeme Lynch

            Like C4 stated 1 million is a successes. I would also say again that having the game localised for western audiences based on its popularity signifies sufficient enough success.
            Anyway I think the whole poΓ­nt of this escapes you. The abysmal sales on the WiiU equals bad press and a reduction of potential games that could prove to be too much of a financial risk for developers.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Despite what you may think, it’s still a success. A game doesn’t always have to sell over a million or more. If the publisher and developer make more than enough profit, then it’s a success. The HD collection I don’t count that much since many probably already have the originals.

            Anyways, to each their own.

    • Elem187

      That’s a pretty stupid test… Most Japanese gamers already purchased the yakuza 1 and 2 HD remakes on their PS3’s… why did SEGA think they could resell the game to those same gamers a second time?
      Mind boggling stupidity… consumers aren’t charities. If you want your game to sell you need to ship something new.

    • MujuraNoKamen

      “Sega purposely released the game to see how Yakuza sells on the system” true, and I too am disappointed to hear this news but the point still stands that Sega couldn’t expect this to do fantastically well anyhow. It’s a port of a PS3 game that was originally an up-scaled PS2 game, you can’t expect many people to buy a re-release of a re-release and this franchise wasn’t all that popular to begin with. It’s a shame for all concerned that it’s done so badly but remember what EA did at Wii U launch with ME3 – they complained that no one bought the U version but that’s because it was an old game already and they announced the whole Trilogy for PS360 so why would U owners buy 1 game when they could get 3 for the same money – the point is Sega should take into account everything this game had against it and try again with a new game to get a better representation of the Wii U market. If that fails then they can complain all they want.

      • Spencer Manigat

        Exactly. It didn’t even sell well on the PS3. How could anyone possibly expect this game to sell on the Wii U with a Japanese install base of 1 million when the PS3 version, which already released months prior, only sold 110,000 so far in Japan with an install base of 9 million? This is not a “disappointment. This was fucking obvious.

    • Tails the Foxhound

      It’s a poor litmus test. That’s like trying to test the reading ability of a country and only visiting the homeless shelters and kindergartens. Even Tank!Tank!Tank! sold better than this, you can’t hold Nintendo accountable.

  • Schultz38

    Cue Truthteller “WiiU is doomed” in 5….4….3…2…

    EDIT: P.S. Don’t feed the trolls, guys. Even though I believe Truth is half serious….he’s nonetheless a troll.

  • Sidney Majurie

    Hmmmm…. An HD “remaster” of 2 PS2 games that were released on the 150 million selling PS2 and only sold 1.9 million combined for both games and was already released on the pretty popular PS3 a year ago and only sold 110,000 copies…

    Yakuza 4 and Yakuza: Dead Souls combined sold 1.3 million.
    Seems Japanese gamers don’t care about this series no matter what system it’s on. Sega says “Yakuza HD on the Wii U is an experiment.” I guess the experiment proved that Japanese gamers still aren’t that interested in this series

    YEP, Wii U DOOMED!

    • jay

      PS2 sold 150M but had a much smaller install base about 75M

      So you must compare 1.9/~79

  • ezquimacore

    maybe because is old…maybe.

  • Graeme Lynch

    You are rather ridiculous aren’t you? (Rhetorical question) πŸ™‚

    • Jimmy D. Fugate

      Lemme answer that for you. YES.

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  • Jimmy D. Fugate

    Well, you can’t very well get Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, F-Zero, Pilotwings, ZombiU, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, Bayonetta 2, X, or Eternal Darkness anywhere else can you? And don’t say “better launch games” until you see the reviews or play the games for yourself. Plus, by Nov 18th, 2013 the Wii U will have had 14 exclusives, both first and third party….if you want me to list them I will. Wii U stands a chance, it’s the Xbox One that doesn’t.

  • RyuNoHadouken

    game sucked on PS2…no surprise here

  • Selena Gomez

    Still want this game localized…

    • Elem187

      Blame SEGA for rereleasing a game just about every Japanese gamer already owns on their PS3 instead of just shipping it to the West where it hasn’t be released yet.

  • Optimist

    Everyone is blaming poor sales due to HD remake of an old 2 games
    But Muramasa HD remake on the Vita sold 2X compared to the Wii version on the 1st week

    Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games πŸ™

    • Michael DeVore

      Nope, you’re just seeing an exception to enforce your existing beliefs. Look at the HD remakes overall and you’ll see a trend. Heck look at Muramasa for the US sales and you’ll see the same trend HD remakes make (week 1, 44k wii 15k vita). Lots of things could have affected Muramasa’s release in Japan on the Wii that made it so the expected market didn’t get it the first time, but I’m not willing to do the research to find out why.

      No one is saying that there can’t be an exception every now and then. However, the overwhelming supply of data says that remakes, and re-releases rarely do well. And a port of a remake that was remade less than a year ago, but more than 6 months is going to do even worse.

  • ItzameyaToad

    Makes sense why it didn’t sell that well, it already released on PS3 last year all over but it seems that it probably wasn’t the best idea to release it to only the Japanese market which seems to have already had there feel with Yakuza 1 and 2. Its much like Kajima releasing the Metal gear collection in a country and a fan base with the Playstation that have already played/own the Metal gear games. It’s one of those thing’s stop focusing on the market that has already recieved the game multiple times and focus on the western market/other consoles and you have a much higher chance of getting new fans/people who love the series but dont own it or have wanted to play it.Not saying Japan should be excluded but with titles like this they need to focus on worldwide releases to get higher sales.

  • Damn, was looking forward to this… πŸ™

  • Arthur Jarret

    A real shame, Yakuza 1 and 2 is one of the few reasons I still have my ps2 hooked up (together with final fantasies, fahrenheit, gta, legacies of kain, psychonauts, god hand and maximo) and I would’ve loved an HD remake where I could do the side missions with off-tv play

  • YayGs

    Where they expecting it to do well? The fact that they are less than a 8/10 games mixed with the fact that they are older games were if someone sees it in stores with a 1&2 HD remake ‘pack’ they will pass on it if they haven’t heard of or played the game before.

  • Sharingan

    They should have made Shenmue HD instead.

    • thedeciderU

      now that’s what i’m talking about. i mentioned that in their last yakuza article.

  • thedeciderU

    i think for the most part, people want cutting edge, fresh experiences. it should have been released here first if anything. i guess…

    from 2005-2012, i was mainly nostalgic gamer, so i get appreciating an old classic in a new light. the last year i’ve been catching up on years of games as fast as i can. not enough time. i’ve probably played through about 25-30 games (i.e. campaigns) since last august, and have played many hours of online multiplayer (way too many).

  • Spencer Manigat

    It didn’t even sell well on the PS3. How could anyone possibly expect this game to sell on the Wii U with a Japanese install base of 1 million when the PS3 version, which already released months prior, only sold 110,000 so far in Japan with an install base of 9 million? This is not a “disappointment. This was fucking obvious.

  • Steve Austin

    I’ve played two games in the Yakuza series on Playstation 3. They are interesting but overall the game play is poor and the story is melodramatic.

    Shenmue was a much better exploration, action, type game. It had a truly compelling story and endearing characters.

    Yakuza is not a game worthy of an HD remake, imo.

  • Rin Okumura

    Me thinks everyone who wants to already played them…