Warning: Video contains strong language. It should be noted that now that the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4 are in the wild and in consumers hands, many people are wondering which console has won the launch for this generation of consoles. Noted game critic Jim Sterling believes it was the Wii U and he backs it up with some pretty solid evidence, including: – Wii U launch titles innovated in ways that the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launch titles don’t – Wii U currently achieves 1080p resolution in more titles than Xbox One or PlayStation 4 – Games for the Wii U have received amazing critical acclaim (Super Mario 3D World) Overall, I have to agree with Jim Sterling’s assessment. While the Wii U had a significant drought period earlier this year, the console line up has some of the best titles to date and if I had to recommend a holiday gift for anyone this year, it would most certainly be the New Super Mario Bros. Wii U bundle. What do you think? Do you agree with the video? local_offer jimquisition Nintendo wii u stars Further Reading Switch vs Wii U game case size comparison Miyamoto dismisses the Wii U as a “nece 6 reasons to grab a Nintendo Switch before March 6 reasons to skip the Nintendo Switch for now Nintendo Switch Amazon Pre-Order Watch the Nintendo Switch reveal live! Miguel Angel Barrueta Hernánde Go Wii U! Nintendoplaystation The wii u launch was good, shame about the rest of the year though. That said The wii u will be getting a good flow of games when the psone will have their drought lol. steve i dont think they will have a drought of games, just because 3rd party will actually push games for the ps and xbox, in first party maybe. and yes i cannot wait for wii u’s line up for 2014! right now is definitly the time to have a wii u Thomas Fitzgibbon Isn’t it just shocking that Wii U is the only new generation console to achieve 60FPS, 1080P regularly than the apparently “Real next-gen” consoles where developers see achieving 60FPS alone as a mammoth challenge? What’s more irritating, is how Sony and Microsoft fanboys consider the Wii U to be an inferior console. Kudos to you Nintendo! Smurfman256 To be fair, the only confirmed game to be running 1080/60 is Smash Bros. (DuckTales and Rayman are both 1080/60, but they’re multi-platform). Wind Waker is 1080/30 and most other games are 720/60 (which is a HELL of a lot better than what the other consoles got this early on) with the exception of third-party games such as CoD and Ass. Creed (not sure about Deus Ex, though; haven’t picked it up yet. Too busy buying PC parts). Thomas Fitzgibbon Deus Ex: Director’s Cut is sadly 30FPS (but that’s the developers doing, not Nintendo’s) 🙁 However Mario Kart Wii U and future first party Nintendo titles are going to be 1080p, 60 FPS 🙂 And Wind Waker 30FPS? Really? I thought that was 60FPS? Smurfman256 I’m pretty sure that press release screenshot have all been in 720p. I’ll have to find a link to a 1920×1080 screenshot and count how many pixles the jaggies cross over on my monitor (which is ALSO 1920×1080). And Wind Waker looks so smooth because the animations are hand-drawin instead of mo-capped…most of the time. Rich Garriques you idiot it toke nintendo 6 months to develop wind waker hd , they said it was easy because the game was designed so well from the gc version that it didnt take much transition to come out right. Marcell Wade No, Wind Waker HD runs at 60fps, but the frame rate drops in places, most notably sailing near Windfall island. Smurfman256 As much as I would LIKE it to be 60FPS, I can confirm that it’s 30 (the panning jutter is just too big. go to the auction house, watch as the camera pans over the contestants, and see how their pupils have massive amounts of jutter; at 60FPS, that would be ALMOST non-existent *not as nice as 120FPS on a 120Hz monitor, but smooth enough*). Marcell Wade Digital foundery did tests on Wind Waker HD, and said “the game runs in 60fps, but not all of the time” which would mean that it drops in places, I own the game also and it ran as smooth as silk, except sailing around Windfall island in the game for me anyway, because that’s where it was so noticeable to me. The Clockwork Being Let me give you a list: Smash Bros Bayonnetta 2 Mario Kart 8 Wind Waker HD Rayman Legends Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Nintedward There’s more…. Both scribblenauts games run at 1080p 60FPS for example, this was confirmed when the dev of 5th cell was talking about how it can do it ”easily without breaking a sweat” . And there’s a few others that have just gone unnoticed. Not to mention about 10+ Eshop games that run at 1080p 60FPS on Wiiu like the Mighty switch force games for example and Toki tori , Edge, little inferno , kung fu rabbit etc etc etc, Not intense games lol but 1080p 60 none the less. Anyway, for me 720p/30 (solid) 720p 60 and 1080 30 are all fiiiine. We shouldn’t expect the Wiiu to put out gaming PC performance ffs… I agree with sterling except that I think the PS4 already has a LOT of Native 1080p games and they’re a lot more intense than those found on Wiiu. E.G Killzone, Knack, Resogun, Flower, NFSR , CoD , AC4 , NBA 2K14 , Fifa 14 , Trine 2 , The list goes on Infact almost everything on PS4 is 1080p except for Battlefield which is 900p but has extremely impressive visuals, framerate and 64 player online. The Xbox one is the one struggling with 1080p , not the ps4. Of course I prefer the Wiiu and I’m a Nintendo fanboy, but the PS4 definitely has more 1080p games than Wiiu and ones that are intense graphically…. The Clockwork Being Yeah of course there are more I just named the ones at the tip of my tongue. But anyways yes the PS4 has more games running at 1080p. BUT! not all of them are at 60fps. Like Killzone which runs at 1080p but runs at 30fps. But none the less PS4 will of course have a lot of games running at 1080p and even though some will run at like 900p(BF) it will be for some important reason like 64 players on a single map or multiple elements that can be displayed perfectly so the game doesn’t crash. But of course as long as the Wii U can play games at 720p at 60 fps or 1080p at 60fps while still being strong is what is needed. The PS4 on the other will be able to do this and no one denies it. But right now the console who are supposed to be doing 1080p at 60fps easily are kinda struggling to do so this early in the current generation. Daniel Gonzalez Struggles are normal. Every console has to work out it’s problems. To be fair, an fps game doesn’t really need 60 frames. Fast paced games like fighting or racing games will certainly need it more. Just how I see it. The Clockwork Being I get what you mean but the fact still remains that dev have been saying that 1080p at 60fps would be so easy to achieve. But still for FPS if 60fps is achievable, why not do it? Daniel Gonzalez Of course they’ll say that, it’d be bad news to say it won’t. Lol. I don’t think most of this will matter once the issues are resolved, and we’ll move on and wait for quality titles to release. True, but as I said, 60 frames isn’t needed. It’s just an added bonus. Theiz Zzee I think the issue here is this. If, the PS4 and XBOX ONE are so much more powerful than the Wii U running Battlefield 4 in 1080p 60fps should be like Wii U running MarioKart at those settings. When the Wii U has trouble hitting target numbers folks claim it is weak but, when the next gen twins don’t it’s every reason but, that. That is the bigger issue. So if, the Wii U is scrutinized the other two definitely need to be too. Smurfman256 Bayonetta 2 has NO official confirmation, screenshots of Mario Kart are in 720p, Monster Hunter runs anywhere between 40 and 35 FPS and has very little upgrades done to it and I’ve heard that Rayman had to be scaled down to run on the other 2 consoles. Rich Garriques you are WRONG , bayonetta is 1080p this has been confirmed already , mario kart is 1080p , just because you seen 720p videos from ign doesnt make it so stupid , monster hunter has long since been confirmed to run at 1080p 60 since april your late and rayman was scaled down for 360 and ps3 NOT The wii u version the wii u version was not touched because it is the definitive version of the game. so 360 and ps3 versions were scaled down from that. you fail Marcell Wade I’ve played Mario Kart 8 hands on, also talked to a Nintendo rep that confirmed it runs at 1080P 60fps, also Nintendo says their working to get the game to run at 60fps during local 2 player races. DragonSilths Mario Kart 8 is also confirmed to be at 1080p 60fps. Also I believe X is aswell… Logic It’s not shocking at all. Your not factoring in the graphical quality of the games in your statement Thomas Fitzgibbon Regardless of graphics quality, developers should make what needs to become standard in next-gen – standard! If you want to achieve 60fps in a game but you can’t quite do that because of too-much detail on-screen, just remove those details rather than cutting the frame-rate in half and have a stunning game that performs mediocrely. I am aware that a lot of titles on Wii U (especially first-party titles) use cartoon-style visuals but 60FPS is still 60FPS and the games look that much better for it and Nintendo are achieving this consistently. Logic Your original statement has a different meaning from what you just said. You were originally belittling the other consoles through saying, “Wii U is the only new generation console to achieve 60FPS, 1080P regularly.” Now, you just changed your argument to what you call “standard in next-gen.” I don’t quite understand why there should there be a “standard” in next gen. Developers are pushing the console’s (PS4, XBone) limits to see exactly where it’s at. Maybe in one year, we will start seeing 60FPS, 1080P games on PS4/XBone. Developers need to become more familiar with them, and it can only happen over time. DragonSilths Cause Nintendo knows how to get the best out of their systems. Its why they make their own consoles. They are the best at using it since they can mold it to what they need. Microsoft makes the Xbox One, but Microsoft themselves don’t actually make games they pay people to make them for their system. So that’s why there are issues there. Microsoft tries to make a powerful system they hope devs can use without problems. However that’s basically guess work lol. Since each dev needs something different then each other. As for the PS4, it will get 1080p and 60fps games later. By the 1 year mark of PS4 it will pick up once Devs have figured it out better. Daniel Gonzalez Someone with sense here. DragonSilths Thanks? Daniel Gonzalez Sarcasm. 😛 DragonSilths Me or you…Now I’m confused lol. Daniel Gonzalez Me. Was nothing personal. 😛 Magnus Eriksson Yeah, thats really just blabla. Where is those devs at Nintendo? And what are they doing? Making great looking state of the art games? No, they are not. The devs you are talking about is everyone at Sony or Microsoft. Of course will a one year old console have more games than a week old console. But to be honest, WiiU isnt excactly flooded. It have one great this holiday season. Yes, its a great and fantastic game, but its still ONE game.Maybe it will change, but the first year at Nintendos was really unimpressive. What is matter with you people? Daniel Gonzalez I would guess common sense, but I could be wrong. Could be too much booze. 😛 Marcos Parreira One game? Are you drunk? Magnus Eriksson Anymore great games this HOLIDAY SEASON? DragonSilths I wasn’t even talking about the Wii U having a bunch of games? Daniel Gonzalez You fanboys really buy into too much of what you say. What’s more funny, is how you keep fueling the crazy war amongst each other. PS4 and Xbox One games will sure run at 1080 with 60FPS soon. The system just launched, so updates are the key to fixing these minor issues. Don’t get ahead of yourself my friend. Thomas Fitzgibbon I’m not a fanboy and I don’t buy into too much of what I say, I just get annoyed how much hate Wii U gets. It’s not a laughably bad console with weak specifications, it’s just not been marketed properly. Plus it’s really annoying when die-hard Sony and Microsoft fanboys throw accusations at Nintendo for not doing things which the PS4 and XBOne are not doing either. Even if/when the PS4 and XBone hit 60FPS 1080p as a standard, you have to admit, it’s a disappointingly long time coming and that also doesn’t mean instantly better games. I decided against getting a PS4 for Christmas for its lacklustre exclusive launch game line-up. Knack…..ewwww. Daniel Gonzalez Hating back doesn’t help matters. I get what you mean, but it’s better to just be neutral about it, rather than be mistaken for one. Know what I mean? All launches have their issues, and I don’t know many that went smoothly. Lol. I’m getting a PS4 first, only cause I know all these issues will be gone and great games will come in months time. Wii U I do plan on getting when Smash Bros comes around. Thomas Fitzgibbon I not hating back either and I am trying to be neutral, I’m just addressing that every console has it’s own flaws and none of them are better than the other. The exclusive games and the enjoyment factor are the most significant things to a console’s success and to be fair Wii U has been out a whole year before XBOne and PS4 but I would personally say by critic and gamer feedback that the Wii U had the best selection of exclusive launch titles. Of course I haven’t played the PS4 & XBOne launch titles myself, so I can’t make a solid judgement on them. I’m sure PS4 and XBOne will enjoy illustrious success in the future and I might purchase both in time. Daniel Gonzalez Exactly. When we all say who has the better exclusives at launch, it’s just all opinions. Of course, launches I could care less about, because they don’t usually have many to choose from yet. In the end, yes, all three will have their great titles and we’ll all be happy with the games we get. Articles like this I do at least get plenty of laughs in. One way or another, we’re all going to buy whatever we want. 🙂 John D Wait a minute… You don’t even own a Wii U? So what are you doing here? I ask because you’re on here quite frequently, and you comment on just about every article. It does seem a bit odd for somebody to always get into debates about systems they don’t even own… Daniel Gonzalez Simple. I have plans in investing in one when Smash Bros comes around. Even so, why do you even care? Is an old school Nintendo fan not allowed on here now? Or is no one allowed to be here who doesn’t own a Wii U? I don’t see anywhere on this site that says you are required to own one. Lol. I have to ask, cause I get this question from time to time, and most are douches about it. I only say, if you’re here to just try to cause problems like the rest, don’t waste your time. If not, then no hard feelings. I’m always up for a mature discussion. usama You’re not an old school Nintendo fan, nor are you a Sony fan or even a Microsoft fan. You’re a hypocrite. Rich Garriques sorry but i have to agree with him what hes saying is 100% true. you never hear anything positive from ps4 and xbox one fans most of them boost about about how amazing ps4 and xbox one is when tech wise they are simple just 2010 tech Nintedward I hate to be a party pooper. I’m one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys going but what’s this I hear about the Wiiu having more 1080p 60 games than PS4 and Xbox one? Xbox one has struggled to achieve 1080p in most of its launch titles. But the PS4 however, virtually every single game on it is 1080p native and about half or more of those are 60FPS. Infact the only ps4 game that runs less than 1080p is BF4. And that is 900p 60FPS with 64 players online. The Wiiu is easily my favorite console of the 3, but we shouldn’t be comparing it to xbox one and PS4 visually because they’re both quite a bit more powerful, especially the PS4. Daniel Gonzalez A fanboy that talks positive about the PS4 on here? Are you drunk again? Nah jk. Least you admit to being one, but you’re a fair one. I don’t own a PS4 yet, but that’s good to know, and makes me wonder why people keep bringing the PS4 into everything too often. I heard a lot of bad stuff about the Xbox One, though I don’t hear too much about the PS4. Sure, the PS4 has it’s problems, but it’s safe to say those problems will be resolved in time so I don’t see why people are all over it. I agree. Comparisons are silly in this case. Both are more powerful than the Wii U. Does it really matter who wins a launch, though? I don’t think it really matters. Great games will come their way for all three. Nintedward Exactly. What the Wiiu has is a really unique identity that the others cannot offer. It’s quirky has a big gamepad controller which I personally LOVE. And let’s be honest, Nintendo has THE best Exclusives in the industry… Resolution and framerate are a trick subject, you have to take into consideration the intensity of the game. For example Rayman Legends @ 1080p60FPS is not the same as AC4 running at 1080p 60FPS as we all know. It’s a moot subject unless we’re comparing the same game/multiplat. And the wiiu will ALWAYS peform worse than Xbox one and PS4 in that sense… Irrelivant though when the main point of the Wiiu is games Like Super Mario 3D world which are artistically unrivaled. Daniel Gonzalez “And let’s be honest, Nintendo has THE best Exclusives in the industry…” I would agree with you Nintedward, but it’s a subjective statement to make. So I’m just going to leave it at that. You’re entitled to what you believe, and I’m fine with that. For me, they used to be, but that’s just me. I’ll always love Nintendo no matter what, but I don’t see their games as the best of the best anymore. You bring out a good point of view, but it’s not one that I can fully agree with. I feel that Sony brings out better games that I love now, so that’s where I stand. We do agree on that Nintendo does make great games for everyone to enjoy, so I can’t argue with that one. I do agree with you on the resolution and framerate, they are tricky, and most probably won’t comprehend it if they don’t look into it. 😛 Nintedward Well I can see how you and others may prefer other exclusives over Nintendo exclusives. But if you take a step back, overall I would say Nintendo as the best exclusives regardless of what anyone prefers that just what they do. The Mario’s the Zelda’s the Smashes the Pokemons etc. Adam I do like other multiplats and exclusives, but you are right in that regard. There is something in every genre for nintendo. Everyone could find a nintendo exclusive he or she likes. Daniel Gonzalez Nintendo targets everyone, so of course there’s more to offer. Sony targets only certain groups, that’s how it’s always been, same with Microsoft. Each has their own cup of tea. 😛 Magnus Eriksson I dont think Nintendo targets everyone anymore. Childrens and families mostly, and maybe some few releases of games that also could appeal to some others too. Its like Disney. Everyone likes Disney, but not everyone makes Disney their favourite moviies. Daniel Gonzalez Wish I could agree with you, but not this time. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon are popular and are great franchises to many people, but not to all. Besides, best is just a popularity contest from both our perspectives. So I don’t think it matters one way or the other. We’ll buy what we like or prefer in gaming. Games like God of War, The Last of US and Uncharted to name a few, are great exclusives and are one of the best exclusives I’ve played. We can go all day about this, but we both know this is strictly opinions of our own and those who might agree with us. Truth is, all these games that we’ve mentioned are special in their own way, and none are better than the other. Mario Oh yeah. Magnus Eriksson You must try the new Mario 3D World. Its really damn fun, i must admit. Its eye candy too, makes you hungry for sugar and sweets. capitalism1023 Whoa bro do you have a life? How about you stop policing every damn post on this site? You tell everyone to be accepting of people but when people say something that’s positive about the Wii U or gloat about it for just a second, you jump down their throats. Go get on your high horse on another site. I’m sick of you telling everyone on here that they’re Nintendo fan boys. Cool you can afford three consoles and can argue on here for 6 hours, but most of us just come here because we like Nintendo and the Wii U. If you want to talk with a diverse crowd, maybe IGN or another site of that nature will suite your tastes better. This is a Wii U site, not a PS4, XBoxOne, and Wii U site, so maybe you should consider that for a minute before telling everybody on here that they’re wrong. Us Nintendo only gamers usually get ridiculed when we’re on other sites such as IGN and Gamespot so it’s nice to have a site where we can go to talk to other Nintendo gamers about our passion. And if we get a little pumped some times and brag about something, who cares, thats what fan sites are for. Who made you the f***ing Wii U daily gestapo that tells us how to act? I’m not talking about just this post either, I’ve seen you do the same thing on almost every other damn post. Seriously, get a life. If anyone thinks I’m crazy scroll down the comments section and just see how many times this fool has made an asinine remark about somebody who has something positive to say about Wii U. EDIT: He’s typing a response right now and this comment hasn’t even been on here for 5 minutes. Get a life bro. Daniel Gonzalez Sorry. I would read your whole comment if I cared enough to, but I can already see it’s just the usual fanboy nonsense. Btw, it would help to break your post into paragraphs like normal people. I can already see that grammar isn’t your forte, as well as maturity. I’ll tell you like I tell every ignorant fool that I’ve come across, worry about your own life. The fact that you care so much about what I do, means that you have none at all. This isn’t a fansite, it’s a news/blog site foremost. Only crazy fans like yourself are under the impression that this is your site. Lol. This sites for everyone who can come here and have a proper conversation, shame I can’t say the same about you. 🙂 Now find something better to do, like take up an English class. Don’t bother to respond back, you’ll just be wasting your time, and will be too busy reading more mature comments. Bye bye grasshopper. 🙂 capitalism1023 Awesome, a Mexican who can speak and write some English. I bet your community college and the fam are so proud of you. Hopefully they can speak English too. Man you’re so grammatically correct, especially when you use terms like BTW and put smiley faces in your post. And that second to last sentence just screams writing genius all over it. I bet you’ll edit it since I pointed it out too. Once again bro get off your high horse and if you want to throw insults, two can play that game. EDIT: He edited it lol Skelterz haha amazing this this baldy prick cclearly is mexican Nintendoplaystation This is a wii u site. You call everyone a fan boy. And also your best response is to tell someone to take up English class whilst Ignoring their valid comments. We are not here to learn how to spell. And why don’t you find something better to do. Most things you go at him bout you are guilty of. You didn’t even read his reply, well that’s all I need to know about you. Daniel Gonzalez You sure are delusional to think so. Only people I call fanboys, are the ones who go out of their way to insult people who don’t share the same opinion. Also, I don’t see how bringing in the race card has to do with video games. At least fanboyism, relates to video game topics. That much I can at least say, is fair. As for his large paragraph, well perhaps that was a bit rude of me. However, it was true that he could have broke it it down into smaller paragraphs so it’s easier on the eyes. In truth, I could care less of what you think and don’t need your approval. Best to just move along my friend. See you later. Nintendoplaystation I didn’t mention anything of race you don’t even know who you are talking to. I do think bringing up someone’s race is unacceptable. And I do agree with paragraphs, break it up a little. Also as you force your opinions onto others expect the same. your in a forum, you know where people talk and others reply. Daniel Gonzalez I was talking about Capital, not you. I thought that was obvious. Now that you know, it’s out of the way. Sorry if you got the wrong impression. Force my opinions? If like to see it that way, I’m not going to bother to waste my time explaining that one. Let’s be real here, everyone here, let alone the crazy fans on this site, are always trying to force opinions on one another. So I find it funny how hypocritical that sounds, and yes, you’re right. Most of us do, which is why I find amusing that certain people get that much hate over it. I suppose that’s because my views vary depending on the topic, but oh well. I’m not here to be friends with people, just get my opinions out. Personally, I have no problems with most people here, it just seems to be small percentage, and it’s usually the ones who hate the negative opinions towards Nintendo. What a pity really. Nintendoplaystation Cool, I thought that guy talking about Mexicans that way was bit of to be honest. I’m not here to make friends but I’m not here to make enemy’s neither. But I still think you should focus more on what someone Is saying and not so much the grammar. And read the whole comment Before replying. Just my opinion. Daniel Gonzalez Well. I wasn’t going to mention his grammar if he was going around telling me I should get a life just because I post here daily, then it wouldn’t have been said. You reap what you sow, you know? It’s hilarious for someone to come around watching everything you do, that’s hypocritical, and I pointed it out. I’m not really sorry at all for picking on his grammar, he shouldn’t have picked on me in the first place. I’m not here to make enemies, but unfortunately, you’re going to run into a few fools that can’t keep their peace, or are just looking to target certain people to cause a fight. Can’t be helped. Like I said, would have read it all if he wasn’t being a douche to begin with. If people are going to ignore that(this one is not directed at you) then they are no better than the capital guy. Just the way I see it. usama Do not reply to me and I will do the same. But you are and always will be a hypocrite(unless you repent, which I do not see you doing any time soon). And with that I say’ Peace be on you and may GOD show you the right path and give you guidance and light. oman I must admit daniel, that was a tad harsh! Why attack someones grammar? No one really cares how they spell or punctuate………..people still get their point across, wether you like it or not! You really don’t need to be that arrogant! Like you, everyone is on here to share their opinion! Daniel Gonzalez Call me arrogrant if you wish, unless you know me in person, I could care less what a person over the internet thinks of me. No offense dude. I read some of what he typed, but as always, it’s just the same stuff I’ve heard thrown at me, so I didn’t see a reason to bother with all of it. Plus, his grammar was that bad in that post, not my problem if people take it that personal and then go out of their way to call me a “Mexican.” If you and other people think that is okay on here, then you all have some serious problems, but I digress. I’d take arrogance over ignorance any day. You never see me bringing in race into a video game topic. Good day. Skelterz you mexican taco bell cunt Daniel Gonzalez Looks like originality passed you by huh? At least you admitted to making a silly account just to try to piss someone off. I guess it’s not paying off for you. You’re quite an unusual fan of mine. 🙂 Guest So was telling people to get a life. He reaped what he sowed. 😛 LightupmyLife Damn bro, u has some issues. U say he has no life, yet you edited a comment just to say he commented on you just five minutes, lol? Hes right, you have no life, if not more than others on here. Lol. Is it really that hard to be civil? I wont give you too much credit, lol. Youre most likely a troll that has nothing better to do than to try and start up pointless arguments. Go to sleep, its past your bedtime, and get back under your bridge. capitalism1023 Do I smell another account? I think I do. And if it isn’t take a look at all his comments and tell me who has no life. This guy has been arguing and commenting on here all day. Seriously, ALL DAY. Also, I didn’t know they had WiFi under the bridge. If so poor people have it great these days. Obama starts giving away phones and now he’s giving away free damn wi fi under the bridge too? And it’s past my bedtime? You couldn’t come up with a better line than it’s past my bedtime? Are you a Mom or something? Who the f*** says it’s past your bedtime anymore? LightupmyLife maybe youre the same nut that made fun of him being PuertoRican earlier? Seriously bro, the fact that you come on here and track a guy that you feel is on here all day must mean youre on here just as much. What u really care if he is here? lol if I don’t like a comment i just leave it alone and move on. he’s right, youre causing problems that arent needed. then i see you went to the all time low and called him a mexican. Even if he was or not thats just low and you are a scumbag for doing so. Lol. Come on now. I dont agree with all his comments but you took it too far bro. lol Its obvious that he upset u. idk, maybe you had a bad day and are taking it out on people but thats no reason to bring race into a videogame site man. lol. just damn. Edit:maybe he didnt need to bring in grammar and shit but was bringing in race really an excuse? Be real bro capitalism1023 Damn what an epic response to a guy who supposedly lives under the bridge….with wi fi. Oh I forgot it’s past my bedtime so I probably shouldn’t be responding to you right? Are you going to tell my Mom who also lives under the bridge on me now? How about you let the man talk for himself? Are you his PuertoRican lover or something or just his other account? It’s hard to tell here. LightupmyLife damn, talk about no class bro. lol it’s cool cause people like you are the ones who get banned easy so i wont waste more of my breath on u. you really do have serious issues though like paranoia. im not surprised since this is the internet and people like u take advantage of that lol. i take it ill see you on your next troll account after you get banned. peace good luck talking to youself lol Daniel Gonzalez Let it go, dude. Like you said, he has no class. He proved that and it’s at least entertaining to see the ignorance of some people on here. Take care man. I’m out. 🙂 capitalism1023 I bet you’re out, for like 5 minutes, which is just enough time to get a plate of tamales down. oman Racism, is not your colour mate…….just let it go, its all good! Im not his biggest fan either, but each to his or her own! Magnus Eriksson Hey, mr. Racist. Dont you have some crosses to burn and dance around? Daniel Gonzalez Don’t stoop to his level. If people actually support someone like that, they’re just as ignorant as he is. Be the better man. 🙂 Magnus Eriksson Daniel: I find it important to expose racism, and show that I find it unacceptable. Thats not stooping to someones level, its community responsibility. All and everyone should react against those kind of things. Daniel Gonzalez I 100% agree with you, but from the responses directed at me, no one is interested in such things. Of course that’s cause I’m not a popular figure here, but I digress. I find it unacceptable too my friend, but it won’t really stop here until the admins do something about it. To be fair, it’s rare to find that here. The Capital guy without a doubt is the same guy who follows me on PlaystationStyle with various accounts. His attack style is spot on. Best you can do is report it. Funny part about all of this, is he cause the whole argument. People make so much sense. capitalism1023 You dumb s**t I’ve never owned a playstation in my life, I’ve only owned Nintendo consoles. So you saying that I’ve followed you here from a Sony fan site is hilarious because I will outright say I hate sony. It’s funny that you’re calling people paranoid and conspiracy theorists when you’re the only one acting like that. The pot calling the kettle black. capitalism1023 I’m a racist because I called him a Mexican and said he was eating tamales? lol Unlike most white people I’m not worried about being called a racist, doesn’t bother me one bit. People have become too sensitive and scared when it comes to that word and white people need to stop being pussies about it. Yeah we enslaved people, so what, it’s been happening since the beginning of time and white people aren’t the only culprits. Daniel Gonzalez So much hate and anger. I take it you’re alone and depressed each and everyday at home? Those tamales are good btw, don’t be mad cause you didn’t get any. So what’s the next racist joke? I bet it’s something unoriginal, but I digress. 😛 capitalism1023 Yeah because telling someone they live under a bridge screams so much class let me tell ya. And now your’re saying I’m paranoid? Where the hell did you get that from Mr. Freud? Keep the retarded insults that don’t even make sense coming you nutcase. Have fun with your PuertoRican lover homie! Skelterz i agree with capitilsm i fucking hate the bald prick so much i made a special profile just to mock his faggot ass finally someone sees the dicklick cock taster has too much time on his hands and he is puerto rican look at his dogface Daniel Gonzalez Sounds like jealousy to me dude. Sorry, we can’t all have a sexy bald head and good looks such as mine. No reason to be all upset about it. 😛 Skelterz i called you mexican and puerto rican cause your heads all bald and youve got a foreign gay look about you Magnus Eriksson lol Master Gamer I thought I was the only person who notice that. He comes off like he’s all for gaming and has a positive look on things. But slick side tear down certain things when it’s positive about Nintendo. Also speaks extremely high of Sony, which leads me to believe he’s a undercover Sony fan boy. He can say what he wants, but the proof is in his post. Daniel Gonzalez Man oh man. The crazy conspiracy theories in that post. You read way too much into stuff my friend. It’s funny. Lol. I made it clear, that I prefer a Sony console, not my problem if you don’t read other posts. Also, I have stated several times that my posts vary depending on the topic at hand. Fact is, I don’t agree with the dude in the video, it’s that simple. You can believe what you like, but it doesn’t change the reality of things. You can say what you want, but the proof is in my post history. I do get the feeling you and a few others that have responded to me are friends of capital or just his other accounts. It’s too much of a coincidence, but a usual, I digress. Master Gamer Not a friend of him or anyone on here. I’m just basing my opinion off what I see. I own multiplatforms. Still have my Dreamcast, N64, Gamecube, PS2, along with my 360, PS3, Wii and new 8th generation consoles Wii U & PS4. I said that to say this I can’t stand that fan boy favortism bullshit. It’s cool if you favor one platform or developer over the other, but to bash another cause your a fan of the competition, is plain childish and stupid. Each platform brings something unique to the table. They all benefit and so do we, if all are successful. I wish Sega was still here, because it seems since they went 3rd party, they lost the passion and creativity you once seen in their games when they were first party. There’s a lot of undercover fan boys that’s journalist, on these blog sites, etc. (yeah im talking about you digital foundry) they not only lie, but constantly put out negative articles purposely, to hurt the platforms they don’t like name. It’s sad, but those who know , knows what time of day it is. Daniel Gonzalez I never bashed the guy at all. Lol. I picked on his grammar because he came at me with bs. He reaps what he sows. Just like you have your opinon, so do I. If you wanna talk childish, then perhaps you should look at everyone elses comments instead of mine, I don’t see how what I said is any different from the average Joe. It’s not really my problem if people don’t read my comments from past articles and assume that I hate Nintendo because I have a different opinion of this news posts. That my good sir, is childish. I can throw that claim out as well. I have nothing against you dude, but I think you aren’t seeing the bigger picture here. At the end of the day, I play whatever holds my interest. I’m on here for a simple reason, cause I have plans to invest in a Wii U in the future. Can’t be helped if the younger generation here can’t understand the old school Nintendo fans. 😛 oman I agree my friend ! I do believe great things will come to all 3 usama Every other member of the community, do not talk to Daniel Gonzalez. He is a hypocrite who was dissing on Nintendo at another website while here he does no such thing. He called Nintendo consoles rehashes and said that Nintendo just copied from tablets while making the gamepad and said that Nintendo does not know innovation. He is a chameleon Daniel Gonzalez You’re also the same dude that follows me on playstation style under different accounts to troll. Right, ScienceEthusiast? You really have nothing better to do then try to discredit people huh? Poor poor man. ComposedJam For someone who does not want to “stoop down to his level” you did a terrible job by insulting him personally. I rarely post on this site, yet every time i do always see you involved in arguments with people about their opinion. Don’t you realize that arguing semantics with people on the internet is stupid? I realize I’m doing the same thing, but it has gotten to the point where I see you on almost every single update arguing. Please calm down, stop feeding trolls, and play one of your many consoles. Edit. the fact that you know of people that stalk you online to harass you should be a clear indicator of your actions. Daniel Gonzalez That’s the biggest load of bull I’ve read today. Lol. If you rarely post on this site, then I assume you don’t visit here too often. This is probably the worst case I’ve seen in well over a month I’d say. Probably the first time someone has used racism towards me. I actually get along or at the very least, am civil the the majority of people here. So, I don’t know how you came to that conclusion. I am calm, and no, ignorance like that shouldn’t be tolerated. He’s been reported and what’s done is done. The fact that I know for sure it’s various accounts is because it’s too coincidental and the style of is too similar. As for my actions, well the same can be said about anyone, so don’t come at me with the bs. Sorry if you see this as rude, but I get this talk a lot and quite frankly, I’m not interested in it. I’m dropping it now after this post, so I’d ask you kindly to do the same. Skelterz no one likes you pal not even your regular take out taco bell capitalism1023 You’re the only one with multiple accounts you idiot, I’ll report you as well and we’ll really see who has the multiple accounts. It’s really not that hard to prove, just check the email and IP addresses linked to the account. I’ll be sure to let everyone know on here what they find. And you keep bringing up my grammar like it’s going to ruin my reputation forever. Whoop de dooo I didn’t put it into paragraphs for your retarded ass. Also, I have a B.A. you lonely slob, something you will never have because you’re too busy arguing with people on video game websites. You’ve been on this post for like three days now arguing with people which goes to show how pathetic you are. Once again get a life. usama Daniel Gonzalez is a troll and hypocrite, do not feed him. He calls every one else trolls because a criminal blames everyone else for his crimes. Period. usama No ‘men Usama hoon aur men kissi ScienceEnthusiast ko nahi jaanta. meri aik hi account he aur wo ye he. tum aik munafiq hou aur ye sach he. Sach men boloon ya koi aur ya phir koi jooth bole, sach nahi badle gaa.’ You can scramble your mind over translating this hypocrite. I’m not telling you in English just to get you off my back. This language is Urdu, just to give you a hint. By the way revealing a hypocrite is community service. Thomas Fitzgibbon You’re not being a party pooper Nintendward don’t worry. What you say is quite true, the Wii U isn’t going to be a graphics beater against PS4 and XBOne because they are naturally a lot more powerful. But that is sort of the problem in this discussion. They are both noticeably more powerful than the Wii U but Sony and Microsoft are clearly having teething-troubles with achieving 60fps 1080p which is worrying when we were all expecting them to do this much easier since the Wii U didn’t appear to be having much difficulty with this. The fact that the graphical difference between last-gen and now this gen is hardly gargantuan doesn’t exactly help matters. It’s probably just about Sony and Microsoft understanding the technology in their consoles better but you have to admit, the progression of 1080p and 60fps as standard concept is surprisingly slow burning. Daniel Gonzalez He just stated to you that the PS4 isn’t having issues with most of their games at 1080/60. Lol. Why keep bringing that up? Haven’t these two consoles just launched? I swear people over the net(not meaning you in particular) go bat shit crazy over news. Just when the Wii U came around, already the doom and gloom articles. I do have to admit, that the internet is one entertaining medium. No offense dude, you’re still cool. 😛 Squid I guess I can agree, I have decided I’m going to be a Wii(U)S4 gamer this gen. oontz Well said readypembroke You also forgot about Assassin’s Creed IV on PS4. Without that patch, it runs 900P out of the box! Nintedward That doesn’t count. So does CoD but they have day one patches that take them to their intended 1080p. Magnus Eriksson This is maybe the least fanboyish thing Ive seen from you. There is hope Eddie 🙂 Greg Freeman dude your wrong on 2 counts first ps4 got just single player wii u has full games @ 1080p if half the game is in sub hd the the ps4 dose not have a full 1080 experience. second while the ps4 dose have more power it means nothing as its inovation is limited by a 25gb blu ray disk and console is not progamed to handle more to be honest it can’t handle wow and low settings without some mods to its inferstucter ps4 is rampant uneeded tech that can’t be maxed out. wii u is efficient xbox one is blowed by windows 8 and ps4 is it own shackle as on paper stats fail in real word proformance against the other two nex gen consoles pbd2 To be fair most the next gen games on xb1 and ps4 have more advanced graphics than the Wii U games. Take a game which is on all 3 such as ghosts and you will see the wiiu version struggles a lot. Squid Yay Jeffrey Debris Another great episode! I think he has some very good points. Especially about the PS4 and Xbox One being nothing but upgraded versions of their predecessors. The Wii U truly feels like a unique experience. I also agree that Zombi U wasn’t given enough credit. I played the game well over a hundred hours and still didn’t make it through survival mode… Ashley King Yep this is exactly how I feel. It’s interesting to see the Wii U regularly achieve 1080p on first party titles when Microsoft and Sony’s (Microsoft especially) own launch titles can’t do the same. DragonSilths Xbox One has 3 Operating Systems. That’s going to cause issues. Mark my words. Petri And this is why I like Wii U. It’s a gaming console, it is not trying to do 100 different, completely irrelevant things while I game on it. Sure there are some features I would like for Wii U to be added, but it should be first and foremost a gaming console. Daniel Gonzalez Xbox One is called that for a reason. It’s an all in one media center. It’s not trying to be a gaming console alone. So Dragon has a point there. Which is why both the PS4 and Xbox One are having some early on issues. No offense to Ashley, but shes being quick to judge on this one. That dude also has good points, but he fails to see that the PS4 and Xbox One aren’t gaming only consoles. Wii U doesn’t have to worry about that, which is why it can achieve 1080/60. When it comes down to it, all this stuff on who won is child’s play on all ends. What matters the most is the games. Launches never go that smoothly, so there’s that to think about. Petri If they are having issues, only because they try to do too many things at once, maybe they should slow down a notch, and figure out their issues. As for the resolution, they are trying too much, just a little details affect performance, so just tone that detail down. If I ever need a blu-ray player, and PS3 craps out, I might get a PS4. For me, it does not matter who won, as long as I have the games that I enjoy. And Xbox One is just silly name. Daniel Gonzalez They can’t tone it down, that defeats the purpose of what they’re trying to achieve. Lol. It doesn’t matter that much because they will be fixed soon and it’ll be old news. I’m getting a PS4, not for blu ray anyway, it’s a nice bonus, though and have another one in my room. I’ll have a PS4 and Wii U in my house and will enjoy them both for different experiences. Xbox One can I’m passing up. After what they pulled with consumers months back, I’m hesitant. I do agree, Xbox One is a silly name. I don’t need an all in one media center, I just wanna play games. 😛 Petri Optimization is the key, if you can’t have everything, you have to give up on something. For me, Sony is so far offering nothing I must have, so for now, I’ll wait. I have a pc to game on, if Wii U starts to get stale. I never liked what Microsoft is doing to gaming with it’s policies. So the only reason I might ever get an Xbox, would be if my wife suddenly developed a hatred towards Japanese so deep, that I couldn’t keep Japanese products in the house. nexxus6 Well, it is not Nintendo’s fault that the other two systems chose to allocate resources to other non-gaming tasks. We are talking about GAMES running at 1080/60fps. If people are going to find fault with what is under the hood on the WiiU and why it won’t achieve the same visuals as the Xbone and PS4 then it is only fair that we find fault in the multi-tasking of the other two that is hampering resolution and frame rate. If these other non-gaming aspects of the Xbone and PS4 systems is affecting the way these VIDEO GAME consoles play games, then it is a detractor. Rich Garriques look xbox spokes person everyone Daniel Gonzalez Look, an ignorant gamer everyone. See? I can do that too. Now, are you going to discuss things like a mature person, or do you wanna continue to call someone a spokesperson like a blind fanboy? Choice is yours. Just for your information, I like PS4 more, but that doesn’t make me a Wii U hater either. I’ve praised it several times in many comments too in articles. Have more sense than that my friend. 🙂 DragonSilths Exactly. Rich Garriques who asked microsoft to put 3 different operating systems on a gaming consoles its a god damn GAMING CONSOLE NOT A COMPUTER. maybe they need all those operating systems to spy on you with the kinect. DragonSilths I don’t know. Nintedward Well all of Sony’s first party launch titles are native 1080p and so is almost every game out on the PS4, the Xbox one is the one struggling with resolutions and framerate. The PS4 is a beast. Honestly 1080p isn’t important for the Wiiu. I’d rather have my Wiiu games at 720p 60FPS than 1080p 30FPS. Leave the 1080p scrap to the PS4 and Xbone… Magnus Eriksson Thats the spirit. It shouldnt matter. People get way to technical. Its not good. Should talk more about how fun it is, design and how well it play. Those things matter. Daniel Gonzalez Yup. That’s why I’m buying a PS4. Having 1080/60 for games is just an added bonus. The games alone will be great, regardless of what the game runs at. What’s more, since when did Nintendo fans care about graphics and resolution? 😛 Magnus Eriksson Im sure PS4 will have hell lot of great titles this generation too. I would be surprised else. PS, PS2 and PS3 had all great games, dont see that it would differ this gen. I will probably pick one up myself, but I will wait until it buildt up a decent library. Mario Heh. Good point. oontz “What’s more, since when did Nintendo fans care about graphics and resolution?” HA HA HA…. THIS!!!!! How many times have we heard the argument graphics don’t matter… it’s all about fun. Low and behold… you’re comparing graphics. TheAquacharger Yeah. I don’t buy consoles to have 1080p60. I have a PC. I buy consoles for console exclusives. I don’t care how they look. I get third party games on my PC, save for Ubi and ones with bad DRM, if I want them to look pretty. Sure I have a 4k30 comp but I typically just stick with 16:9 for an easy 60 FPS for smoothness. Rarely do I want to go into 4k. Jeffrey Debris I agree that it should be all about the games and the experiences they offer. That’s why I love supporting indie games a lot, even though I think too many of them are riding the retro graphics train… Daniel Gonzalez True. Most indie games do. Daniel Gonzalez To be fair, I think 1080p works better for realistic games, which you’ll see from PS4 and Xbox One. Wii U I feel is fine with 720p. Magnus Eriksson Yeah. 720p looked great on PS3 and XB360. Im sure Nintendo can pull some nice things out of that hat. Rich Garriques ps3 and 360 never did 720p only upscaled so you fail Daniel Gonzalez They do 720p natively. Just have to be upscaled to 1080. It’s been stated many times in many news posts on the web. I would say you fail, but I wouldn’t wanna be on your level of maturity. It’s amazing how crazy you fans get with video game news. Bye bye now. 🙂 TheAquacharger The PS3 and 360 didn’t do 720 native that often. A lot of games ran under 720p due to heating and framerate issues. They ran 540 native upscaled for 620/640/680 upscaled. http://forums.2k.com/showthread.php?23783-Bioshock-ps3-native-resolution-680p&s=8b07181c8c2b00e19ee758411c34c8e8 Bioshock running at 680 on PS3. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/247104/red-dead-redemption-sub-hd-on-ps3/ Red dead being sub HD on Ps3. Halo 3 being 640p http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/halo_3/news/bungie_confirms_halo_3_is_not_720p.html http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241 A complete list. See how a lot aren’t at (Res)X720. MarioCop GAMING PC are BEAST! ps4 is just a MID range PC! Daniel Gonzalez You’re wrong about PS4 games, Ashley. Microsoft on the other hand, no arguments there. oontz Are you smoking crack? Adrian Im playing zombiu for the 3rd playthrough…..i really wanted to make it through without dying, but in the palace i was cricket batting a cop zombie, and a column got in my way so my swing missed….he then one shotted me with a bite in the neck. Now im on my 2nd char about to go into the nursery! My first playthrough was 8 deaths [effing carnival got me 5 times] Second playthrough was 2 deaths. Love this game DragonSilths I gave up on ZombiU. I got screwed over twice with game breaking glitches where I couldn’t progress with the game. I cant force myself to go through the game a 3rd time. Magnus Eriksson Im on my third too. 🙂 TheKingJoseph lol these wiiussurance articles are just pathetic.The fact that you fangirls are stating that wii u has more 1080p games with a serious face is just sad. It’s easy to achieve 1080p on a simplified game. If the wii u had solitaire running 1080p you dopes would be gloating like it’s a huge deal. now let’s do a real comparison: cod ghosts on all home consoles; ps4-1080p, xbox1-720p, the wii u-660p. lmao the wii u isn’t even hitting 720p hd. you fangirls are living in a delusional world lmao RIP wii u sharlo galmo Cod WiiU 660p, who fault is that? Treyaarch or from Nintendo? The WiiU had 38edram, you need only 18edram to do 1080p native, so tell me again who’s fault it is that the WiiU version don’t do 1080p native? FoxMulder900 “simplified” is relative. I would consider Super Mario 3D World to be MUCH more complex than Call of Duty Matt Elgie COD fanboys! Simon Stevens http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/14/5103208/south-park-xbox-one-vs-ps4-console-wars Southpark trolled back Googs As has already been said by someone else, they could easily get 1080p on a Wii U or at the very least 720p, it’s the fact that they’re working with edram. Edram is something that has very rarely been used in consoles (there’s never been enough to display 1080p) and because of that none of the developers are using it the way it’s meant to be used/not even using it at all because it’s basically new technology for them. While the Edram in the Wii U won’t make that big of a difference (in relation to the PS4/Xbone), I’m fairly certain that they could have made COD ghosts run at at least 720p on the Wii U if only they put some more thought into it and didn’t just port it over from the other consoles. TheKingJoseph ok but what about: ass creed 4, watch dogs, etc. you must be dreaming if you think wii u can hit 720p with constant 60fps Googs It should be possible on the Wii U, with some additional work required. Nano Assault Neo was a very nice looking title (albeit a little simple) that was running 1080p 60 fps all the time. The devs of the game released statements that gave a little insight in the console, here’s a link if you want to see it: http://hdwarriors.com/general-impression-of-wii-u-edram-explained-by-shinen/ 🙂 DragonSilths The more time and effort you put into a game the better it will look and run. Its just that simple. Daniel Gonzalez Not always, but most of the time, that is true. oontz It’s easy to make simple games 1080p / 60fps. Jelle Knibbe Says the guy with worse grammar and spelling than my 5-year old nephew. Simon Stevens Nintendo go to great lengths to provide a system that not only works but is almost guaranteed to last, they will sacrifice a few things if it means the console’s overall stabiity is good and failure rate is low, I have never once had a Nintendo console go dud on me and I’ve had my fair share of them, and I think it’s fair to say from a first party perspective, Nintendo don’t release games they don’t consider to be perfected on some level, I wouldn’t have them any other way. Jack5221 True that. I still have my NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube and Wii. Plus all the gameboys, DS, DSi and most recently added a 3DS to my collection. ALL my systems + controllers and games work perfectly fine. Almost like they’re brand new. DragonSilths Agreed. But I had 2 Gamecubes cause the sensor couldn’t read discs so had to replace it. And same issue with the Wii. Lasted 5 years then got a 2nd Wii for the last 2 years of its life. Jack5221 Not only that. But when Wii U launched there were hardly any issues with it. Unlike PS4 & Xbox One, both are known for having multiple issues that make the console a brick. The only issue I can think of with Wii U was the day 1 update, If you unplugged the system while it was updating then it would brick. But then again, Im pretty sure EVERY console has that, and its self inflicted rather than out of the box. DragonSilths There was the freezing issue. But better to have a system that freezes then one that bricks and dies lol. Grulnork Wii U is performing fine, but lets not get any illusions about the Wii U’s power compared to PS4/XB1. And don’t forget the Wii U is out for more then a year to. 🙂 DragonSilths Wii U has more power then you think. PS4 and Xbox One are stronger. But only by like 30% Grulnork How do you know how much power I think it has? :p 🙂 PS: Quite entertaining ppl downvoting my first post, is reality then so hard to accept for some ppl. 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Being that this is a Nintendo news /blog site. People don’t wanna hear anything negative about Nintendo, at least most. You’re right, the Wii U won’t be anywhere near the Xbox One or PS4 in raw power. Wii U was never meant to do that, it’s true potential is in its gamepad. Which is where a lot of the money was put into. Just imagine how much the console costs without the gamepad. Grulnork I am happy with my Wii U. Not as many games as I would have liked but soon perhaps. Always have my gaming PC as well. Much better to be critical on the console (or any product) that you love then to be a blind fanboy. Glad there are some people here who do see that to. 🙂 Graphical power is good enough for me as well. Nintendo always pushes beautiful games out of there consoles and for many of them they got an art style that isn’t so demanding usually anyway. Very happy actually that the Wii U has modest specs, because I was able to pick up my Wii U for €175,-. I do not mind at all if Nintendo has a hard time, it will only make them try harder and deliver better games, just like with the GameCube. 🙂 Best case scenario for a (Nintendo)fan is that they earn enough to keep making games and consoles in the future, but not being market leader. Market-leaders often deliver lower quality and higher pricing over time, but if they have to compete then the real good stuff comes out. DragonSilths I was making a general statement. By you I meant the general mass of gamers. As a individual who has worked on the Wii U Dev kit, I was simply stating it has more power then the mass amount of “Gamers” think it does. Grulnork With that I agree. 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez How would you know what the PS4 and Xbox One can do? 30%? Maybe. However, those two just began, and we are going to surely see games that will look far better than it’s launch titles. In other words, Wii U won’t compete in strength in terms of graphical power. Wii U’s main strength comes from it’s gamepad, which separates it from the other two. Let’s not get crazy. I agree with you that Wii U is more powerful than it looks, but compared to the other guys, it won’t match up. You’re entitled to your opinion. So I’ll leave it at that. DragonSilths While its true I cant see how well the PS4 and Xbox One will match up with Wii U when you actually take the time to build a game from the ground up on those 2 systems. All I can say is CURRENTLY from what I have seen with the Wii U Dev Kit, PS4 and Xbox One Dev kit which I AM NEVER TOUCHING AGAIN. My god that was a cluster fuck. Wii U at its current state is on even playing field power wise. Although some could argue better…since Wii U has more 1080p 60fps games…but meh. Adam Well in one sense yes, but if you take into account the RAM the XBONE and PS4 have they have 6x the amount of memory. I suppose nintendo could update and use only 512 mb ram for the OS then it would cut the advantage from 6 to 1 to just 4 to 1. What Nintendo pulled with the Wii and graphics which were pretty good comparatively could happen… but don’t make yourself disillusioned with only 30% stronger… it’s more like 50-60% stronger, but to untap the full potential will take 3-4 years, where companies could use the Wii U architecture earlier as it would be easier to upgrade from the 360/ps3 specs. Obviously the Wii U will have a slight advantage until year 2 or year 3 of this gen DragonSilths I’m not disillusioned. I was speaking from what I have seen from the Dev Kits. SleepySkullhead What was the thing he was holding at the end? Steam box? Kevin Malone Looked like the Ouya, a “micro” gaming console created by Julie Uhrman and running on Android. Came out this year. Daniel Gonzalez Man is it a failure. Rinslowe No need to be polite about it, haha….. It sucks! “shakes head…’Ouya’…” jeffp3456 I would really like to get in on whatever you are smoking Ashley! It was at least a year before a really great selection of games showed up on my wiiu. Of course, now they do have that one year headstart.. Denvy This is true. While I did buy a Wii U at launch, looking back at this past year there was nothing I bought that I HAD to have. I could easily have waited for SM3DW to catch up. jeffp3456 by sheer chance i was able to pick up a ps4 at launch and it is really where the wiiu was a year ago, essentially nothing to play, watching the live streaming is a good time killer but it will take them time to catch up. OT, AC4 which i should have rented but bought is really not very good 🙁 Luckily I have Deus Ex on my wiiu and just got Link to Past on 3DS so all is good. Now if Ashley would cough up some of that herb… oontz exactly they’re comparing a system thats been on the market for a year to one thats 2 weeks old and another that is a couple of days old… sad times for wiiudaily. Vinicius Man, I feel happy when someone talks about the games content, like inovation and everything. Nowadays all I see is fanboys discussing about if a game runs at 1080p/720p or 30/60 fps, like if its all that matters. Eduardo I agree with this guy lol i got the Wii U and the Xbox One and its one a Great machine.. (I will also get a PS4 soon) but other than Killer Instinct (which i think Rare should of stayed with Nintendo btw) theres nothing else to play and Mario World 3D is the game of the year. Nintendo has games now since Pikmin 3, Zelda WWHD, Wii sports,Wii Fit U Mario world 3D. are 5 star games plus the few 3rd party awesome games. there are months of game play. nintendo did come out with an exclusive 5star game. called New super Mario Bro. U and Nintendo Land which was about 4 stars. PS4 and the ONE have no1st party five star games. idk thats my opinion. its just how i do math. Adam Howell I’ve not taken any proper statistics, but the ratio of positive and negative online comments regarding the Wii U seems to have swung towards the positive since the xbox one’s and ps4’s release, and of course the release of Mario 3d World. It might be the silence caused by the sony/ms fanboys going quite about the claim that ‘The wii u has no games’, or it could be a sign that public is warming to the Wii U… Or alternatively it could just be random variation. Knlegend1 His assessments are correct. I was downing the launch because I thought Sony/MS were going to kill instead they didn’t do much of nothing. They truly are iterations of the same things that came before. I’m happy Nintendo went in the direction they went instead of trying to make a Mii2 console. Off TV play is something I didn’t think I’d want but I love it. Simon Stevens Ditto to that, when my son’s cousins come over, they crowd round the gamepad and I can still watch batman in peace ^.^ DragonSilths Mii2? You mean Wii2? Knlegend1 Me too console. Basically a copy of the ps4 and xbone. oontz “His assessments are correct.” His assessments are nothing more than biased fanboy rants. Daniel Gonzalez It’s amazing how people start hating on a product that just released into the market. Gotta love this site. Niknique Time to go rub this in people’s faces! 😀 Daniel Gonzalez Can’t say I’m surprised. 😛 Petri Now that PS4 and XBOne turned out to be just limited PC’s slapped with a controller, PS4 is going to need some stellar exclusives for me to pick it up. So far, it seems that PC and Wii U are the only platforms I will need for this generation. Sure PS3 had some games that were worth playing, but it just seems like all they can do now, is just add some graphics that has been on PC’s for years now. And even though I dont usually like how this fella presents his opinions, I have to agree that from Sony’s and Microsoft’s part, there’s really nothing new, other than higher resolution. I do hope they can start making some games that justify owning a PS4, and even though people say its familiar tech and next to nothing learning curve, I want to see if developers can utilize those 8 cores for something, since so far games have only used 2 to 4 cores at most. I think they should not be so much concerned about graphics, but delivering pleasant experiences. DragonSilths “Higher resolution”? What would those be lol, Xbox One and PS4 have hardly any. lol Petri Yes… that will come when developers “learn the “new”” architecture. Daniel Gonzalez That’s kinda the point when something is new to the market. Don’t be immature about it. You have to remember that the WIi U isn’t the same in power or architecture as the PS4 and Xbox One, so it’s more likely that a powerful console is more likely to have problems. If Wii U was in the same ball park of horsepower, chances are it’ll run into the same issues at launch. I could be wrong, but I’m probably right about that. Have to be fair about it. 😛 Petri Main point on this choice of architecture, was to make something that is easy to develop for, and have something that developers are familiar with. Sure there are little things that developers have to learn take advantage of, and same goes to Wii U as well. Any issues that these consoles or developers might have, are mostly because of bad optimization. Daniel Gonzalez Do you think that will stop people from buying it? Lol. I doubt it. Plus, Ubisoft said that the PS4 version of ACIV will run at 1080p with a patch. So it’s safe to say that games will be running at 1080p just fine soon enough. I know we all like to take cheap shots at other consoles, but I don’t think the average Xbox One or PS4 owner will care one way or another. 😛 Paladinrja Thank fuck Jimbo actually put the unassailable points down and not some stupid shit. I’m still at a loss what Win means, I guess its us consumers that Win, no? But can’t fault Jimbo’s end of launch results. And before the whinge patrol start refuting this, if you follow Jim’s critique you’d know that altough he canned Wii U with a solid smackdown all year he also always had this underlying hope for Wii U. More options for all consumers is better but for gamers where Nintendo wants to take the industry (begining with Wii). Has such huge appeal you’re all going to get another shot at experiencing the greats who bowed out before gen six and you’re getting HL3 too! – lucky lil shits Daniel Gonzalez Isn’t it a bit early to be talking about who won the next gen launch, when next gen only began? Lol. Really WiiUDaily? Come now. Let’s wait a while before we bring up such a topic. Also, PS4 and Xbox One just started, Ashley. You should reserve your judgement for later. It’s rather silly to pick on consoles that just launched. I said the same thing about the Wii U months ago as well. Let’s not go nuts now. Man oh man. Here comes the crazy fanboys wars again. Brace yourselves. Petri How many months does “launch” cover? If we are talking just about first month, then I would agree with that dude on the video. I am hoping, that Sony gives me a genuine reason to get PS4, but they couldn’t do that on the launch. Daniel Gonzalez A launch period can last longer than a month. In this case, I would expect Soy and Microsoft to get this issue fixed within a months time. However, articles like this are kinda pointless as who cares if a game does 480, 720 or 1080? Or runs 60FPS? The games will still look good one way or another. Point is, Nintendo fanboys are just as idiotic as Sony and Microsoft’s. Give it a rest and play your games. All systems will be running at the same resolutions soon anyways. 😛 Petri Was resolutions the main point of this article? Think it was just a side thing to rub in to fanboys. I think the main point here was, that Sony and MS didn’t bring anything new to the table, except higher resolution. And yes, better have a playable game at lower resolution, than unplayable game at higher resolution. Fanboys are pretty much the same, no matter what the platform. Daniel Gonzalez Sony and Microsoft target a different market. What we consider innovation, whether it’s graphics, gameplay, new controller, and other console features is just subjective topics. Innovation is whatever you feel it is. It has no objective. So to be honest, all fanboys are idiots, and I agree with you on that. Which is why articles like this just start up pointless wars just as I expected. Lol. If only people would let go of their silly hate and just get along and play your favorite games. 😛 Shota yeah let’s start the real thing in 2014. sony says game development is shorter now. xbox one needs a good update. then we will judge which system won. Daniel Gonzalez Thing it’s, is subjective to which won any war. People will say Wii U, while others will say Xbox One or PS4 when 5 years hits. I mean really, does it matter? It’s all just opinions. Lol. Whether you’re a Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony fan, you all pretty much win when you get the games you want. Best to leave it at that. It’s not always about some popularity contest, which who won a console war pretty much is. It’s really immature when you think about it. 😛 Shota like you said. opinion . i have every system right. it doesn’t matter which won. it’s about which games you like. which system features you like. and as long everyone is happy with each system then every console won. its all about if you are satisfied with what you have Daniel Gonzalez Exactly. Been saying that from the beginning. Now if everyone else can just see it that way. 😛 Shota i’m with you mate. Rinslowe “Thing it’s, is subjective to which won any war.” So true, so true! But where would the fun be for lesser intelligence’s lol… If Sony sells 120 million units, but Xbox Ones no’ 1 killer app sells 3 million more copies than Sony’s flagship title, while Wii U sells more units than Xbox One and less than PS4 but every first party title moves systems – and people still like Mario… Um wait, “Who’s winning again?” Daniel Gonzalez “So true, so true! But where would the fun be for lesser intelligence’s lol…” Couldn’t agree more with that statement. Only the crazy fanboys of the gaming industry care about that stuff, and the media feeds it to them. Rinslowe Gotta love to hate, those crazy ass fanboys, lol. Gotta love to hate em…. I know I do. Daniel Gonzalez We all hate fanboys. Truth be told, they are entertaining when they spew out baseless stuff that either makes you shake your head, or laugh up a storm. 🙂 Rinslowe Exactly. It’s like going to the Zoo. Have fun, enjoy the experience, but don’t feed the trolls…. They need a much leaner diet than the good good snacks we feed them half the time, lol. Rinslowe “Isn’t it a bit early to be talking about who won the next gen launch,” Who cares eh? Now Wii U has some smashing titles on offer, PS4 and Xbox 1 are on the market… Just….play….the…games, PEOPLE! Daniel Gonzalez Damn right! jdiaz1994 What I love about Nintendo’s entrance into HD gaming is that the other companies have had around 7 years to get to where they are in Graphics but Nintendo started its first HD console with early new gen graphics. They didn’t have the 7 years experience that the others did and are doing a really good job with HD. I can’t wait to see Beyonetta 2 and the new Zelda game in full HD Akai know what you mean, nintendo are complete newbies to hd and yet theyve got more 1080p 60fps games than both ps4 and xbox one oontz “theyve got more 1080p 60fps games than both ps4 and xbox one” You do realize that Nintendo doesn’t make every wiiu game right? Daniel Gonzalez Yeah, it doesn’t make sense at all to compare consoles that just hit the market. It’s rather silly. Fanboys will be fanboys. Akai yes, yes i do doesnt matter whether they make them or not theyve still got 1080p 60 fps games running beautifully on hardware thats a completely different world to them microsoft and sony dont make all their games either, and what i meant was games on the xbox one and ps4 upcoming roster, not necessarily launch titles. also im not speculating this is currently fact cant mind where i read it from though oontz wow… punctuation goes a long way. A long, long way. Also you’re a bit misinformed… seeing as almost every PS4 game (released + upcoming) runs native at 1080p and almost all of those at 60fps. As for Xbone… you’re totally correct as they don’t run native 1080p, 60fps maybe… but not native resolution. It’s a bit unfair to suggest wiiu has MORE 1080p/60fps games then PS4, seeing as half those wiiu games you’re including aren’t even released yet (smash bros, mario kart, X, bayonetta, etc) looking at actual Nintendo games that are already released… pikmin 3 isn’t even 1080p/60fps… it’s native 720p and upscaled. it also suffers from flat textures and poor AA on it’s environments and characters. Super Mario 3d World (release 11/22) also only achieves Native 720p resolution at 60fps and is upscaled to 1080p… so in reality it breaks down like this… PS4 native 1080p launch games: 14 Xbone native 1080p launch games: 7 Wii U native 1080p games AFTER 12 MONTHS: 5 LOL… maybe educate yourself before making assumptions and claiming them as fact. Akai i was also counting upcoming and already realesed comes for all three companies. i found where i read from but heres a video on the article http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Ukny7Tg_Y ( guy says wind waker hd doesnt run at 60fps but im sure it did for me) “LOL… maybe educate yourself before making assumptions and claiming them as fact” is that necessary ? i wasnt being hostile to you so why do you have to be a dick to me ? why is it that some people cant hold up their argument without resorting to childish insults and oh please punctuation ? im on the internet not writing a dissertation. how do i explain, i myself did not originally state that wii u has more 60 fps 1080p i was trying to say i read that it does from somewhere so that what i was relaying was not my opinion that i just spouted but a fact i got from a source. oontz “but a fact i got from a source” There in lies the rub… because if you would’ve done some research on your own instead of just citing an internet post as fact. You’d actually find that the numbers are… PS4 native 1080p launch games: 14 Xbone native 1080p launch games: 7 Wii U native 1080p games AFTER 12 MONTHS: 5 The current number of PS4 games that are native 1080p available RIGHT NOW in stores is almost 3 times that on the wiiu. If you took my post as hostile, it wasn’t the intention. Just far to often video game fanboys (from all systems) don’t take the time to research things before posting them AS FACT. Cheers Akai ” PS4 native 1080p launch games: 14 Xbone native 1080p launch games: 7 Wii U native 1080p games AFTER 12 MONTHS: 5″ can you show me where you got that from, also it may seem like a fanboy post but i was merely posting what i read from somewhere i actually have a ps3 and xbox 360 with a horde of games for both of them. Daniel Gonzalez People believe just about anything they read. That’s the internet for ya. oontz just FYI… Bayonetta 2 is not made by Nintendo. jdiaz1994 Platinum I know. The point is that I want to see it on the Wii U. gamesplayswill I liked the fact that I was in my own wonderland. Because most of my friends “hate” Nintendo, I liked being on my own and watching Nintendo Direct by myself. I felt like I was in my own world. XD Sounds fucking pathetic I know. HJ 612 Wii U FOR THE WIN!!! KoopaShell WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, Wii U! Justagamer Wii U is the only way! Daniel Gonzalez One way. Justagamer PS4 is ok but you just can’t beat a good mario or zelda game im hoping for good games for ps4 but right it’s not too great..Im going to wait till march to see where the ps4 before i decide what to do with it Daniel Gonzalez Two ways. Justagamer Yep Wii U and PS4..Not a bad deal oontz so you bought a ps4… just to wait and see what to do with it? Justagamer Yep! oontz cool, any problems with over heating? PS4’s aren’t released here till the 18th of December. Looking forward to it. Justagamer You will like Ive had no problems with mine MewThree28 I never doubted the Wii U but I was fearful of it’s failure. Hopefully we see a huge increase in sales and popularity. Also, it’s funny how people laugh at the Wii U when the other 2 don’t do much new discuss It’s to soon to say. However I did enjoy watching the vid so I don’t know why people complain about Ashley posting this. Daniel Gonzalez My only complaint, is probably that she’s too quick to judge the situation. Just as you said, it’s too soon to say anything. Of course, crazy fans won’t do that. It’s always going to be a huge war. 😛 Rick Valenta What about sales 1 week after launch? I think the wii has a much broader appeal this holiday season. 300 is a stretch for some parents but 400 or 500 is a big stretch…and that doesn’t include games. Daniel Gonzalez Most people who buy a PS4 and Xbox One, aren’t young kids. I know there is a good number of kids who will have their parents buy them one, but they make up a small group. PS4 and Xbox One targets ages 17 and up. You’re lucky to find a few games that are for kids. $400 isn’t much tbh, I’ve seen alot of parents buy their kids a 360 way back even. 😛 nexxus6 I totally disagree. MS and Sony definitely depend on the teenage crowd. Just because the games they advertise are rated “M”, they definitely know that kids are getting these games, and they depend highly upon that demographic. It is this group of gamers that feel they are too cool for the colorful Nintendo games. I feel older gamers are more apt to buy Nintendo games then teenagers, because of some teenagers mis-guided sense of what is trendy and the need to “fit in”. oontz You can disagree all you want, doesn’t make you correct. Nintendo is a game system geared towards children. That IS their demographic. As per the E.P.A (The Entertainment Software Association) whose job it is to research and find out the demographics of video game users… “The average gamer is 30 years old and has been playing for 13 years. Sixty-eight percent of gamers are 18 or older.” Further research from Neilson of the last generation of video game systems found “Wii: The best-selling of the three systems, appeals to boys age 6-11 and usage of Wii by the 18-24 age group, considered the core/hardcore gaming segment, is low compared to the other two consoles.” Seems the actual facts and data suggest that Nintendo is a kids console. Rinslowe “Nintendo is a game system geared towards children. That IS their demographic.” Wrong. Just wrong. SM3DW is not a children’s demographic only, nor is it the same only for Adults or Teenagers etc… Nor just the hardcore Ninty faithful… Nintendo’s masterful approach is every man’s demographic. Same goes for Kart, Smash, Zelda and Metroid. Hell throw Starfox in there as well. They transcend this silly notion of static demographics, man. In the same way Lego games do to… A child of say 10 and under is not going to easily master Pikmin for eg. But I guess certain adolescences, would rather believe their FPS’s makes them more mature, lol. Now, just dance kids for example is definitely fitting your statement. oontz Looks it’s not my opinion… I was just posting actual facts attained from research conducted by the EPA and Neilson for the last generation. nexxus6 Which doesn’t focus on teens or gamers over 24. Rinslowe Take any Nintendo game and say without a doubt which one is aimed soley at Children. Those facts you say, are…..interesting… 🙂 nexxus6 Your post does nothing to counter my argument that Sony and Microsoft depend on the teenage audience for sales of their software. Also if the average gamer is 30 years old, your data doesn’t mention what system they play. It goes on to mention the age of 18-24, which isn’t the “older gamer” age range of gamers. In addition, I never mentioned the age range of 6-11 in my argument. Where is the demographic that we were discussing, which is teenagers and OLDER gamers? Way to try to frame the numbers, I don’t dispute that more 6-11 year olds own a Wii, but that was never in discussion. oontz “Sixty-eight percent of gamers are 18 or older” This is the demographic sony and ms cater to. “usage of Wii by the 18-24 age group, considered the core/hardcore gaming segment, is low compared to the other two consoles” Note the last sentence. Maybe read the data. I am not trying to frame any numbers… just providing data attained from research by the EPA and Neilson. It’s research by a 2 different firms. not me. Cheers nexxus6 I never said they didn’t cater to that audience, I said they also depend on the teenage demographic. You still haven’t provided data for teenagers and older gamers. Daniel Gonzalez Older gamers will buy PS4 and Xbox One as well. Lol. How old are we talking about? Seniors? People my age (over 30) still play games and are just as likely to buy a Sony and Microsoft console, if not more than a Nintendo console. Nintendo is more targeted at kids and families, which is their market. Yeah, there are kids that wanna fit into the crowd, but they aren’t a big group as some make them out to be. 😛 nexxus6 No one said older gamers wouldn’t buy PS4 and Xbone. However, todays teenagers are not talking about playing WiiU as much as they are fixated on the more “flashy” Xbone and PS4. Daniel Gonzalez Yes, they certainly are. Which isn’t really NIntendo’s market. They don’t really target that age group often. Most of their games are rated E, not T. So it’s expected. You make it sound like it’s a bad thing that those teens like the Xbox One and PS4. Lol. No one is making them hate Nintendo. Times have changed. Personally speaking, I love the “flashy” PS4. Not sure what you mean by that exactly, but it doesn’t sound like you care for it. I still like Nintendo, but most of their games don’t do it for me. When I got to my teens, I leaned more towards Playstation and my N64 started to collect dust. I still bought the Gamecube and Wii, I just didn’t play them often as my ps2 or ps3. That’s just from my experiences. It may be alot of other people my age back then. Rinslowe OuCh Man. o_0 You sound jaded…. No more room for a little Ninty magic there Daniel eh? None at all? 😛 I like to have that option, in any case… Nintendo and Sony both have permanent spots in my cave. Daniel Gonzalez Well, I do own every system with the exception of the Wii U( which I will get when Smash arrives), so there is room in the cave for Nintendo. 😛 nexxus6 You just illustrated my point that Sony and Microsoft depend on the teenage crowd, not just those over 17. Many teens feel that Nintendo isn’t “cool” anymore, just as it seems you did. I don’t think its a bad thing that teens like the Xbone and PS4, honestly I couldn’t care less. However, to make it sound like Sony and Microsoft only focus on those over 17 is silly. “PS4 and Xbox One targets ages 17 and up” those were your words. The teen years is the age range where a lot of brand loyalty is more impressionable because buying trends are more easily influenced. Thus, why I think a lot of OLDER gamers are in Nintendo’s wheelhouse. Daniel Gonzalez I never said they did. I don’t recall ever saying that. Lol. My bad if I gave you that impression, though. 😛 nexxus6 No worries, its all just fun discussion. I don’t think anyone need to take any of this personal (not saying you were). However, tone is difficult to feel in text. Daniel Gonzalez Nah, I don’t. Just as you see it, it’s just fun to discuss video games like mature men, or women for those who are reading. Just a shame that the crazy fans on this site can’t follow along. Lol. nexxus6 Well, time for me to get in some AC3 on my WiiU. I have quite the backlog of games to get through. Have a good one everyone. Daniel Gonzalez You too, dude. Take care. Grulnork If you want to see post-purchase-rationalisation or confirmation bias live in action, then read consolefansite comments. 🙂 It never lets me down. JB You know who won? Gamers. Because we have a choice. Choice and competition is always good! Daniel Gonzalez True story. Gamers first. oontz Exactly… being a stubborn fanboy of just one system is stupid and petty. Rinslowe Especially the petty part. Sooo petty you little one system gamers, lol. Jeovany i don’t the wii u will win. I definitely don’t think the wii u is dead or it will only sell the 25 million but I just won’t win. its can’t beat xbox one or ps4. Luke Talbot This is all very self-serving. I think it’s great that the Wii U has so many ardent fans, and I’m sure Nintendo still have great times to come, but I’m afraid that the Wii U doesn’t really qualify for this ‘next’ generation. It’s closer to “what the Wii should have been” than an actual successor to the Wii. What I want to see is a Nintendo CEO pick up the XBox 360 (yes, the last generation one) and play with it for a month. They might then understand why the hardcore gamer has gone to Microsoft, along with practically every 3rd Party worth having. The sad fact: the Wii U is becoming a ‘poor-port-destination’ rather than a ‘Triple-A-Platform’, much like the N64 and Gamecube before it. This doesn’t stop there being excellent 1st and 2nd Party support – I still think that Nintendo comes up with some of the best games ever developed. But if we have another 5 years of the same re-hashed franchises being served up to a small group of die-hard Nintendo fans (me included), alongside complete garbage for the casual bargain-bin gamers the Wii gave us, then I’m afraid Nintendo will never be at the same level as the competition. I cross my fingers that I may eventually be proven wrong. Jeovany I agree with you but I don ‘t think that nintendo doesn’t mind that if they win over the casual market again this or sony or Microsoft Quicksilver88 I really don’t think Sony or MS gives a damned about the casual market as they don’t really have systems or software aimed at casuals. Really that are fighting over the same user base which is the ‘core’ gamer….M$ thinks they might compete for the media savvy crowd but who knows…l.what casuals want is cheap and easy pick up and play… Throwaway gaming. Thats why phones and tablets appeal to them. Wii was mostly mega popular for a very few games like WiiSports and Dance Games. Nintendo sort of cares but honestly that ship has sailed. They can still capture a certain market the others disregard with family and children gaming but this does little to help their image with ‘core’ gamers. I think the best thing they can do is just be Nintendo and make great games with mass appeal like Mario World and let the chips fall were they may. discuss Such a long post but not a single argument why the Wii U isn’t ‘next’ generation. Luke Talbot Nor has anyone provided any arguments to detail why they think it IS ‘next’ generation. If you actually asked Nintendo, they would almost certainly say they don’t care, and that there is no such thing as ‘Next Gen’, just ‘Current Platform’. Technically, the Wii U probably does qualify as part of the next generation of consoles, it being the Nth iteration of a gaming platform that loosely coincides with platforms from other manufacturers, in this case Sony and Microsoft. However, the gap in release schedule, botched launch, poor 3rd party support, lack of in-store presence and the massively reduced price tag mean that in the eyes of the general consumer, it isn’t on the same level as the two newest kids on the block. Here are some examples of consoles that failed to compete against their peers for similar reasons: 1. Jaguar 2. Saturn 3. Dreacast 4. Gamecube And all of that without mentioning the elephant in the room: the Wii U is not as powerful as either the PS4 or the XBox One. While this may not be an issue from day one, as exposed in this video, in a couple of years’ time, it will be an increasingly important problem. We saw the same towards the end of the Wii’s lifecycle too. JB I don’t even know why this is still an issue. It’s simple: the Wii U is next Gen by virtue of it being successor to the Wii. There shouldn’t be any detailed explanation about it. NkoSekirei wii u is more powerful then ps3 and 360 and if anyone hasnt played super mario 3d world needs to cause it shows wat the wii u can actually do and the graphics of the game looks amazing nexxus6 Thank you, JB! You are one of the few individuals that I have encountered on various gaming boards that actually knows what the term “next-gen” means. Your post is refreshing to read. I have tried numerous times to explain this concept, but for some reason it is overly difficult for the majority to understand. discuss No console is next-gen. The pc is a 1000 times more powerfull then any console :> Btw the only thing that could be considered next gen is the hardware and software possibilities. All the stuff you mention is bullocks. Grulnork A console doesn’t fail in my eyes if it sells less then the competition, not even if its not even close. It’s not the Olympics, where only the gold medal counts. As long as a console sells enough to stay profitable and the fanbase is happy with the games they can buy, then I think its a success. The Wii was an anomaly, it was a gimmick that oversold. Now Nintendo is back home where it belongs, a niche market. And I am happy to be part of that market. Decker Shado The PS2 wasn’t nearly as powerful as the Xbox or Gamecube. Does that mean it wasn’t part of that console generation? Of course not. Generations are seperated by time, and in that time moore’s law has brought about increases in power, but correlation does not equal causation, and power is not the indicator of generations. Furthermore, consoles within a generation vary quite a bit in terms of raw power. I personally gauge them in a sort of “low-mid-high” in comparison to gaming computer averages of the time. So, for the PS2 era, we can note that the Dreamcast was a low power member of that generation (though had better ram than the PS2, so was able to pull off nicer textures) while the PS2 was mid-power, and the Xbox and Gamecube were high power. On to the 7th gen, it got very unbalanced. The Wii was slightly more powerful than the Gamecube, and was considered “last-gen power.” If it was at least capable of HD resolution it may be considered low power, but they opted against that. The 360, to PCs of the time, did warrant enough to call it a high power console. Of course, when it launched, the Playstation fans were declaring it a mid to low power, and that the PS3 would be a high powered beast that would blow it away. Of course, it turned out they were too similar in power for many to even know which one was the most powerful, as if it mattered. Now, the Wii U is released, and it is QUITE a lot more powerful than the high end of the last generation. It easily passes as a low powered console of this generation. Unfortunately most developers haven’t given a damn to try and push the system, but a minor glance at the guts of the thing is enough to see it clearly beats last gen hardware. Of course, the fans of Xbox and Playstation declare that the Wii U is somehow even less powerful than the last gen consoles, and that the super-powered PS4 and Xbox One will absolutely destroy it. But remember what I said about compared to the average gaming PC of the time? Therein lies the rub. The Xbox 360 and PS3 were high end for their gen, that’s true.. but the PS4 and Xbox One aren’t at the same end of the spectrum. They fall rather snugly into a mid-powered console for this generation. Yes, they’re the most powerful out now. Yes, games will look shinier on them, but they’re not the massive leap that people are making them out to be. They’re marginally better than the Wii U. Besides, if graphics are that damn important, stop fuckin’ around and just get a gaming PC already. Luke Talbot I don’t think we’re disagreeing here… in fact I agree with almost everything you’ve said. Most of my reasons against the Wii U had nothing to do with graphics, only my last point (the ‘elephant’ in the room), which should only become a real problem in the next couple of years… I think it’s a huge shame that retailers, developers and the media have pretty much abandoned Wii U. It’s been labelled as one of the top 5 presents not to buy your children this christmas, and many stores have withdrawn it completely from the shelves. For that reason alone it’s not going to compete head on with PS4 and XBox One. Like you said, Gamecube was more powerful than PS2, and yet PS2 trounced it completely. I’d love to say the Wii U could do the same, but I’m afraid that there is no way back unless Nintendo drastically changes its marketing. As for 3rd party support, I’m amazed so many titles were pulled away from Wii U so early on. It’s a crying shame, but they may well be responsible, ultimately, for the failure of the platform. They cannot really be blamed though – Nintendo has been a long-shot for a 3rd party since the days of the N64 (and the infamous ‘dream team’ of 2nd party developers, shutting out 3rd parties). If there’s a risk your game might not sell, why would you spend the time and money developing it? The Eternel Darkness sequel/prequel, initially a Wii U exclusive and now multiplatform, is a classic example of someone having their business head screwed on exactly right and minimising risk. Oh, and by the way, your last sentence wasn’t necessary. Decker Shado My apologies, I got caught up in ranting. 3rd party support is the big area I think Nintendo will suffer, if they cannot attain a decent install base. There’s already the stigma that 3rd party games simply don’t sell on Nintendo consoles – if we see the Wii U as the new gamecube, I fear it will see even less support from 3rd party developers than that system, because that system at least had the benefit of power and anything the PS2 could run it could run 3x over. That’s the big benefit of “power” in my eyes, simply being a viable option for ports without requiring optimization. I just recently saw the long rant from ReviewtechUSA about the Wii U, and while he made some good points I had to facepalm when he started going on and on about how Nintendo -should have- released the system without the gamepad, and with specs up there with PS4 and using x86 architecture. You know, so we’d have three systems that are pretty much the exact same thing. I’ve got to learn to control my blinding range and direct it properly. :/ Bob Wilkerson So I take it you do not know the meaning of the word generation then? Because all it means is basically is the next in line after the last one. It has nothing to do with what hardware or the processing power or the graphics or anything like that. Luke Talbot It’s a moot point. My opinion is that the Wii U qualifies as an extension of the last generation rather than a true leap forwards though I admit you could argue the technical points until the cows come home. I also admit that you could make similar arguments against Sony and Microsoft. It would be your opinion against mine. The whole ‘generation’ thing was dreamed up back in the mid-ninteties to keep magazines pumped and people frenetic, and it means very little as you have just pointed out. The inescable fact is that for Microsoft and Sony, the Wii U is not competing. In the eyes of the consumer and the market as a whole, the Wii U barely exists. Hence my statement that this video is very self-serving: the Nintendo fans will rejoice among themselves, but no-one else will take a blind bit of notice and the focus will still be on Microsoft vs. Sony, leaving Nintendo a very respectable, and indeed now almost habitual, 3rd place. jhell the wii u is my console of choice NkoSekirei after watching ps4 and xbox one gamers tear each other apart over their whos systems had the worse issues i think wii u deserves the win and the xbox and sony trolls that bash the wii u alot are feeling the burn wen u play with fire u get burned.karma is a bitch. jhell wii u has the best lineup coming in 2014 Zach Cruz Wii U is a great system, however I wouldnt say it won this. I got Mario ahead of time pacific time 9pm here before my next day delivery for the xbox one, once that came in I been occupied with dead rising 3 and forza 5, I do feel however when i have my friends over we will probably have a lot more fun playing mario together. Ganjabriel Del Campo ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!! I’m really tired of the same playing mode that the ps4 and Xbox one have, it’s the same sh#%^% than in the pastButthe wii U is innovation and is taking gameplay to next step. To the future!!! Yoshi5081 Wow! Daniel Gonzalez, debería ser triste ser tu man… no sé tu pero yo veo que Wii U tiene potencial. Tengo un PS4 pero no me pongo a compararlas… Además una consola es para jugar no para decir esta es mejor que esta… get a life dude! If u do not get it go to google translate, I know you got some spanish… Daniel Gonzalez I understood enough to know you’re being ignorant. I’m calling this article on both ends. I think I’ve said plenty to others on here and you can read those comments to understand my point of view and opinions better instead of acting like an idiot. Lol. “get a life dude! If u do not get it go to google translate, I know you got some spanish…” I find it funny that someone is telling me to get a life, yet worrying about what I do with my life. Just because my last name is Gonzalez, doesn’t mean by default, I must know Spanish. Your ignorance shows more each and every time. 🙂 Here’s one for you. Get a life and stop being concerned about other people’s lives. No matter what you say from this point on, isn’t going to change the reality of mine or your life situation. Grow up and learn that everyone has an opinion, and sorry if it doesn’t match your own. That sucks for you I guess. Truth be told, I’m not worried about what a person over the internet thinks of me, but I at least get laughs out of crazy fans(quite the ignorant one considering what you attempted) like yourself. Buenas noches. 🙂 Yoshi5081 Yeah Puertorrican! I have seen a lot of u here on your comments… so u must be the one who is ignorant… spending time to write a lot shit. how low can u go… talking a lot of shit and yet u don’t know well… I won’t be writing back to you… Daniel Gonzalez Puerto Rican is two words, not compound. So being Puerto Rican means I know Spanish, and not knowing it means I’m ignorant? Lol. Sorry, but I’m under the impression that English isn’t your native tongue, or you are just that dumb. “how low can u go… talking a lot of shit and yet u don’t know well… I won’t be writing back to you…” Says the dude who types in Spanish thinking I know exactly what it says cause I’m and I quote, “Puerto RIcan.” Yeah you’re right, how low can you go man? Not low enough I’d say. At least you know the kind of person you are and don’t hide it from people here. I’d suggest getting out there and learn a bit more about life. You seem deprived of it. You said that the last time,thank you for not writing back to me, I never wanted to read your ignorant comments in the first place. Bye bye now. 😛 Yoshifan3 omg daniel has a fan….. deep down inside he really likes you. hes lashing out at you so he can hide his true feelings. 😛 Daniel Gonzalez Yeah, I have the craziest fans. They’re so hostile. I mean, asking for a free signed photo would have sufficed. 😛 Nintendofreak Holy shit the penguin….. where is batman? Daniel Gonzalez Busy in Arkham. Rinslowe SM3DW; IGN: 9.6/10 Eurogamer: 10/10 Kotaku: Yes Jim Sterling: “F#@k’n Incredible!” Hard to argue with that…. Squid Guys, I got my Mario on Friday and then my Wii U turned off as if I unplugged it, now I need to wait for my AC adaptor to arrive to get back to it 🙁 alex toschi I want the Wii U to win. I support it, I love it, in my eyes it is truly the next generation in terms of innovation, but it also is a refreshing trip back to a time where gaming was about sitting on the couch with people you care about and having a great time, and that’s what Nintendo does best. Not only does the company give us experience that shake our souls and still leave lasting impressions, but they continue to hold our attention with those nostalgic characters that we will always look fondly upon and remember through life. That being said, the current market of “gamers” is completely different and disgusting. I work in retail, at a Gamestop, and all i see is day after day of parents walking in with their 11 year olds, and just talking on their phones while a child immediately picks up Call of Duty, Battlefield, whatever and pays for it without another glance. The casual market has been destroyed by parents not caring about kids being desensitized to violence. Nintendo still has the family market, in terms of parents who want to have fun with their kids, and their fans, but they need to appeal a little to the hardcore market. I don’t mean making a FPS clone, but making something that appeals to everyone again. That’s how they will win this generation. Not a casual grandma bowling fluke, just amazing games. alex toschi That’s how they’ll beat Sony and Xbox. Right now is the time to strike, they need to start revealing their 2014 lineup, when there is news about average launch titles, tech issues between both consoles. They need to take advantage of these next few months when there isn’t many games coming out for the two “Twins”. I eventually will get these two consoles down the line when there is a price drop (and a MAJOR update on the OS of the Xbox One), but until then I support the company that gives me a strong, fresh experience with familiar titles and IPS. Nintendo will always do that, regardless if they sell as much as Sony or Microsoft. John Andalora You know what my biggest problem with Jim’s main argument is? He talks constantly about the Wii U having a better launch, but then constantly talks about this holiday as being a major point for the Wii U rather than just sticking to the launch. Let’s be honest, it fell to the same kind of sequels or continuations of past games (NSMBU) and continuation of trends (ZombiU) that Jim complains about. Not that these are bad, but he argues that it had a better line-up without addressing the main points and showing how these games were different. I’m not a big fan of Jim Sterling. Rinslowe I don’t think that in all honesty your an overly big fan of the Wii U either, lol. For what it’s worth… John Andalora What gave it away? : ) Rinslowe Indeed. 🙂 Kenshin0011 Mario 3D World at 60 fps is truly stunning. At first I thought I wouldn’t see much of a difference, that’d it’d just be smooth and consistent, but it’s more than that. A bunch of things can be going on and staying at 60 fps during it which makes platforming excellent! I notice it when those dodo bird things whack down with their beaks all in a row. And not to mention the graphics in general are the best Mario has ever had, by far. Textures, lighting, colors, all brilliant I also love how this has elements from super Mario bros 2. Throwing items, different character abilities, slot machines? And even the sand pits you dig into and jump in! Remember that? josh – “Wii U launch titles innovated in ways that the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launch titles don’t” I haven’t seen any “innovation” worth mentioning to justify a purchase just yet. As a matter of fact most games on the WII U feel gimmicky. – “Wii U currently achieves 1080p resolution in more titles than Xbox One or PlayStation 4” I would certainly hope so considering it’s been over a year.. Like Throw me a friggin bone here.. However, HD looks better on PS4 and One. Let’s not talk about graphics. PS4 and One wipe their butts with wii u systems. – Games for the Wii U have received amazing critical acclaim (Super Mario 3D World) Mario is good, I admit. But seriously, you’ll need to add a lot more to that list there. It’s been over a year lol. Everything else is like,… average or down-right stupid, boring, awkward, etc.. Brandon I agree with you on all points but the wii u doesnt have more games in 1080p then ps4 and one alex toschi yes it does. most of the launch titles on both systems aren’t in 1080. Infamous Second Son? 720. Dead Rising 3? 720. That’s why I laugh in the face of people who hold console specs in such high regard. Just care about the damn games, PCs are superior anyway when it comes to specs, the only thing that should matter in your choice is the reliability of the console, the price for all the features, and the games. Brandon Yea those are some games but when it comes to third party games the one and ps4 play them at 1080p except for battlefield 4 and cod ghost(for xbox) but wii u cant play them at 720p. alex toschi You just named two MAJOR franchises that are constantly milking gamers for money, the fact that they can’t run on those consoles in 1080p is ridiculous. What other third parties are there honestly? capitalism1023 “Wii U launch titles innovated in ways that the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launch titles don’t” True dat. Nintendoland and Zombi U were awesome games that were very innovative and used the gamepad in some creative ways. Also with games like Assassins Creed 3 that had off tv play and map features on the gamepad it’s easy to see why Jim has this opinion. oontz Zombi u was innovative and in my opinion no wiiu game has shown the same level of innovation yet, as zombi u. Rinslowe You mean difference in play mechanics… Not exactly the only way to measure innovation. Pikmin 3 was the first in the series in years, absolutely innovative gaming. W101 is just as innovative as Zombie U in terms of it’s features and idea’s and how they are translated to the experience. Super Mario 3D World is the most innovative Mario to come out in years. It includes aspects which utilise motion control, touch screen and gyroscope features as well as microphone integration in a fun and novel way. It’s phenomenal and entirely innovative in it’s concepts and execution. But mostly innovation is a subjective topic. 🙂 oontz “Pikmin 3 was the first in the series in years, absolutely innovative gaming.” Sorry have to disagree… Pikmin 3 was an incremental sequel to Pikmin 2. Still both amazing games… but nothing that innovative compared to their predecessor. Zombie U actually used the gamepad for truly inovative gameplay, innovation that wasn’t available in a home console… but had on the DS/3DS. It’s quite sad to see that the majority of Wiiu games delegate the gamepad to item and map duty. So much untapped potential. Rinslowe You missed the point about Pikmin actually. I wasnt saying it was a great move or departure from the others in the series. Only that it was a very innovative title which the series had not many of… I totally agree with Zombie U being an innovative title. My point being, the Wii U has so many features for innovative ideas to flourish. But if a game does not utilise the gamepad extensively, that doesnt automatically mean it is not innovative…. Right? Journey, Heavy Rain and the Mass Effect series is a good example of this point, IMO…. oontz Totally agree with you on a few points… yes a game can be innovative on it’s own, even still with fewer controls than the norm. But I still stand by my statement that pikmin 3 was not THAT innovative when compared to the other 2 entries in the series. The point I was trying to make was that some diehard nintendo fans cite the gamepad as true gaming innovation when in actuality very few games even use the gamepad in innovative ways. Rinslowe Well that’s a sad truth. It’s more that the games aren’t that innovative to begin with and could have been so much more, had the gamepad been used in some creative way. That in most cases so far and in many cases with the original Wii also… Still, I’d be lying if I didn’t say that Deus Ex DC wasn’t magic with such extensive gamepad support or that I’m not every week wondering how Ubisoft has integrated the gamepad into Watchdogs. Haters can say what they will, but the second screen is the best innovation this generation. And if latency can be corrected in Vita for FPS’s or games requiring high reaction speeds then that’ll become more and more apparent as popularity for that feature grows. Should be a positive for ports as well, if third party games start to develop around those possibilities on the other two console platforms. So I hope all second screen implementations become successful…. Coffee Xbox one launch is the most interesting console launch to me, forza 5 and dead rising 3 are truly must haves for me, even though I prefer ps4 this article is just some fanboy stuff trying to justify that the wii u is lacking support and is underpowered, I know strong exclusives are coming though and I want a wii u for those exclusives, monster hunter 4 on wii u would sell me immedietly Rinslowe Cool. Have to admit those built in swipe’y features and voice recognition stuff looks funky chickens… All platforms have their good points… oontz “All platforms have their good points…” EXACTLY… people should enjoy games… regardless of platform. Rinslowe True Story! oontz By posting this video wiiudaily has just lost any shred of credible video game journalism they previously had. Shame really. Rinslowe You should learn to lighten up a bit there, squire. Obviously it was mean’t to be entertaining. oontz Ashley King: “Overall, I have to agree with Jim Sterling’s assessment.” Rinslowe Well, I kinda do to… In an abstract, entertaining sort of way, lol Geoffrey Tasker so you’re saying a website called WIIUDAILY lost credibility by posting a video that’s pro Wii U? yeah that makes sense… after this lets go on a propane site and talk about how they lost cred by saying propane is better than charcoal. of course this site’s opinion is biased its a Wii U website. if you are doing to troll, troll harder man. because right now you’re just looking silly. the PS4 and the XBone both just came out so the graphical difference is currently minimal in comparison. down the road that will change. but in my opinion: right now there are far more games I am looking forward to next year on my Wii U than on my PS4 or the XBone I will be buying when i can find one. oontz “so you’re saying a website called WIIUDAILY lost credibility by posting a video that’s pro Wii U? yeah that makes sense” Exactly… the video doesn’t present any valid facts… it actually makes a sad attempt to compare the wiiu’s first YEAR with consoles that aren’t even 3 weeks old. It the video was posted as entertainment, then cool. But Ashley clearly says she agrees with the points made in the video. “the PS4 and the XBone both just came out so the graphical difference is currently minimal in comparison.” Sorry but that’s just not true. shaun At this point in gaming technology the difference between graphical power is minimal. Sure the PS3 / 360 beat the wii hands down last gen but currently the gap is greatly decreased, and pretty much a none issue. Wii u developers can produce to what 98% of the population can tell the same graphical games as a PS4/X1. oontz So 98% of the population require corrective eye surgery? 😉 alex toschi Another point for the Wii U, Xbox one titles launched WITH micro-transactions, I mean really guys? I theoretically just spent 500 dollars on the console, plus the games, plus the controllers, now I have to pay for extras that should have just been included on the damn disc? clearly a cash grab. Ryse: Son of Rome did this. alex toschi Pikmin 3 only got DLC because fans ASKED for extra content, citing the campaign as too short, this was done because we wanted more. starwars360 ZombiU is won for best new IP game for launched system and much better than Ryse and Knack. Wii U is real next generation than other for moment. Super Mario 3D World and ZombiU achieved it more than what other next gens had and Miiverse is fully perfect for one of reasons for system. 🙂 So yes best online gaming is go to Xbox One. Best new IP game and best original game as well best community feature’s Miiverse is go to Wii U. PS4 got better sells than others. 🙂 2014 will be epic year for whole systems!!! oontz The community features of ps4 destroy the wiiu… sorry. You are misinformed. Louiejub Well, let’s be honest. The PS4 and Xbox One are in the exact same slump that the Wii U was in during it’s launch. The Wii U then started getting good games; we have to wait and see if the other systems do, as well. The Wii U is definitely my system of choice, however. Adam Fox The Wii U also didn’t have hardware issues or firmware that added EVERYTHING to the system, yea, there was a day-one update, but you could still use the console w/o it….there was also no “blue-light-of-death” or Grinding Disk Drives….Nintendo knows how to make a console….all there is to it Geoffrey Tasker yeah but there is the red light of annoyance TheAquacharger http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=720818 People trying to get Bayo 1 on the Wii U! Petri That looks like something alright, far better than a petition with couple hundred signatures. Have to take closer look at it when I’m at home. I really want to have bayo 1 on Wii u, so I can put my ps3 back in the closet. readypembroke I think Nintendo said they were going to have a HD console that would have games displayed at full 1080P, they weren’t kidding. After they got over that HD hump/ problem, I think Nintendo means business. Wiiluigi Why does it Matter who is winning or not? Isn’t it about preference? I would think each system caters to different people and gaming experiences. All systems are dope. My choice happens to be wii u. Maybe later on I’ll buy another system. Maybe not. But why are the always console wars? How is there enough time to fight about this with the thousands of games all systems will produce? Get to gaming. Sheesh. And wii u didn’t have issues with the system. I’ve had min from day one they gave us updates to make the system faster. But I never had an issue with my system. Camilo Wii u Is increíble, People must give It a chance, the control Is revolutionary. Super Mario 3D Is 10/10. It Is different what you see in news than when you play. Geoffrey Tasker it’s cool that the penguin plays videogames Marcus Larsson I hope wii u speeds up in sales tho because what I miss is the feeling when you see a big action game like GTA or Metal gear or whatever. I kinda felt it when I saw zombieu but that wasn’t as good as I hoped for. I just want that feeling like when you see the trailer for the next big movie. I really hope the next Zelda gives me that feeling I felt with ocarina of time, then I wouldn’t need any other console. uptownsoul this is absurd. is mario 3D world still considered a wii u launch title? oontz Exactly… nothing more than a super fanboy rant. Buduski can anybody please send me the link to the video, for some reason I can’t see it. greengecko007 I strongly disagree. How can you declare that the Wii U had the best launch when the PS4 and Xbox One launch is still current? “Wii U launch titles innovated in ways that the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One launch titles don’t” This has to be a joke. What exactly is innovative about NSMBU and gimped 3rd party ports? The only launch title to even make good used of the gamepad was Nintendo Land. “the console line up has some of the best titles to date” Like?… Super Mario 3D World is great, but of the 5 popular GOTY nominations, only one of them is on the Wii U (take a guess). boynhisblobs I believe his point is that tho the new PS4 and XboxOne look great and play great, it’s still just basically the same controller setup with the same style games. The Wii U does offer a lot of exclusives that make use of the gamepad, the wii remote or combinations of the two that feel unique and new. For example, using the gamepad as the map in pikmin 3 while using the nunchuk n remote feels great. I can look down and interact with my map while still continuing to play on screen. That’s just one example, but there are tons. In the long run, it does feel exciting and new when playing the Wii U. The other systems really have only beefed up the graphics. He’s saying, “If you want more of the same but prettier, it’s PS4 and Xbox. If you want something new, it’s Wii U. greengecko007 The fact is, while the Wii U is looking a lot better now and has a growing library with games already lined up for next year, it’s launch was still terrible. Therefore, it’s pretty idiotic to declare the Wii U as winning the console launches, especially when the PS4 and Xbox One launches are still going on. As for innovation, I don’t believe that to be true. The Wii U doesn’t have lots of exclusives to begin with, and almost none of them use the gamepad in “innovative” ways. So the gamepad displays a map when playing Pikmin 3? That’s not a big deal, and assigning a main screen map to a button would have worked just as well, and wouldn’t drain gamepad battery. New Super Mario Bros. U uses the gamepad somewhat, but in the same ways the DS has been using a second screen for years, by touch screen prompts and blowing in the microphone. oontz “For example, using the gamepad as the map in pikmin 3 while using the nunchuk n remote feels great. I can look down and interact with my map while still continuing to play on screen.” This is horrible and only takes you out of the experience. Super Buu I would also add the fact that the failure rate was much lower than that of the PS4 and Xbox One. yoloking1080 Hey this goes to the site owners we who own Wii u can’t watch any videos unless there on YouTube. As you are a Wii u daily we should be able to stream all your videos.i follow this site slot and Im using it threw my Wii u please fix showing love from Denmark JuhRo My PS4 is loving its attention.. I’ve been remote playing non stop. 🙂 oontz Wife just bought me a vita and it doesn’t get the love it deserves… amazing portable gaming and remote play is the icing on the video game cake. JuhRo Tearaway and Ys have me playing my Vita more than my PS4 right now.. Ys because JRPGs are the bomb.. and Tearaway because the Vita and it were made for each other. Gust Of all the current gen and previous gen consoles, the Wii u is the only one I know that has not had any hardware issues Edawg Not true. I sent my Wii U in for repair due to frequent system lockups. It was free of charge, but regardless, there were issues early on. oontz mine still freezes and crashes from time to time… requiring a hard reset. Gust Well that’s the first one I’ve ever heard oontz it’s not an every day thing… maybe once every month or so while gaming.. Not a deal breaker…and most likely software related. Gust When I said problem I meant like yellow light and red ring type problem oontz well those are not the only types of problems 😉 Gust I’m sorry my ps3 has been sent out like 3-4 times for repairers and I have heard numerous tales about the xbox red ring so that is what pops into my head. If the Wii or Wii u had those type of problems please do share. oontz wow… I have run my ps3 constantly for the past 4 years and never had any problem… ever. my wife uses it ever day as a media server and I game ALL THE TIME with it. Maybe you got a lemon. Gust Most likely my ps3’s lifespan is roughly 2 years Smithers_Jones The Wii-U is just a Mario-box. It’s hardware spec is more aligned to that of the PS3. So no, you talk out your ass. The Wii-U lineup is only better because the Xbone and Ps4 have only been out a week. I’m getting a PS4, as it’s got better games across the board. where nintendo are rehashing Mario (for the 70th time), Sony have Little Big Planet and truly groundbreaking stuff going on. I’m guessing you also believe that Nintendo invented the Wii-mote, despite loads of videos on YouTube of Sony demoing the Sony Move controller on PS2 (yes, PS2, not PS3) 3years before Nintendo copied it and brainwashed the world it was theirs. A SNES Day Off “The Wii-U is just a Mario-box. It’s hardware spec is more aligned to that of the PS3.” Actually, the Wii U and PS3 couldn’t be more different when it comes to hardware specifications. “The Wii-U lineup is only better because the Xbone and Ps4 have only been out a week.” … and realistically, the only significant upgrade that Xbox One and PS4 games will have are in the graphics department. “where nintendo are rehashing Mario (for the 70th time), Sony have Little Big Planet and truly groundbreaking stuff going on.” ‘Mario’ is a character; the games he is developed in are filled with innovation. You mention one game – Little Big Planet – but I would be interested to read of the groundbreaking ‘stuff’ that is otherwise going on. I should also point out that LBP is a side-scrolling game inspired by the Super Mario series… “I’m guessing you also believe that Nintendo invented the Wii-mote, despite loads of videos on YouTube of Sony demoing the Sony Move controller on PS2 (yes, PS2, not PS3) 3years before Nintendo copied it and brainwashed the world it was theirs.” You are referring to motion sensing technologies, which have been around at least two decades. Nintendo took that technology and put it in a consumer friendly product; just as Apple didn’t invent “the tablet”, but released the iPad and, with it, a whole new product paradigm. Nintendo haven’t copied anything, rather they had the foresight to build a console AROUND this technology, whereas Sony released it as a peripheral. Your comments read like they were written by a five-year old. Smithers_Jones Deluded much? A SNES Day Off Well, you’re more than welcome to explain why I am. oontz “just as Apple didn’t invent “the tablet”, but released the iPad and, with it, a whole new product paradigm.” Sorry but in 1987 Apple Computer started its tablet project, which considered the release of devices of three sizes, with the one eventually released in 1993, The Apple Newton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3FuTpWbmCQ The more you know. A SNES Day Off Indeed, but the Newton(s) had nowhere near the same market impact as the iPad. That comes down to a lot of factors, but no less because the touch-screen technology didn’t drive any significant advantage over other products. oontz Obviously… but it doesn’t change the fact that apple was the first company to try and bring it to the market… well before the market was even ready. Linkamus Power glove bro…. NES… as in late 1980’s. Pffft… Mike Jones It’s funny how these newbies don’t know about the power glove and virtual boy and all the other different addons nintendo has.. Nintendo has been trying to be different since the start. So before you start making statements about nintendo copying sony i suggest you look up some history on nintendo and also know that Sony would never be in the video game world if it wasnt for nintendo. Super Mattio Nintendo make fun games! games that are pure fun to play and generally longevity due to the re playable nature of them. I play xbox 360 and Vita but i now own a Wii U because of the fun factor I get from such titles as Mario and Zelda games. I have had so many consoles, but my favourite console of all time was the SNES! the first time i purchased the Snes on launch day with Super Mario World and F Zero was my real first insight into Nintendo. I just don’t get that feeling with my 360 or Vita. It doesn’t matter who wins or which is best! I like choose Pro Evo over Fifa any day! It’s all down to personal choice. But i know once Mario 3D world, Mario kart and Smash bros come out, my 360 will gather dust and possibly so will my Vita! That Nintendo magic grips you and it’s hard to shake from your system! Good luck to all PS4 and Xbox One owners! i am sure you’ll all be enjoying your consoles and games! But I really will be too busy having fun with Mario and co to give a damn. Jason Setley Up to 38 retail games, love the WiiU, with know end insight….. Steve Also, Wii U probably has the most least disappointing experience for early adopters. Yes, it was slow. But that’s better than having to replace it due to faulty parts! DJKeens Am I the only one who can’t see the video?