Nintendo recently released their quarterly earnings, where they revealed that Wii U sales almost doubled in the last quarter compared to the previous one. Specifically, Nintendo sold 300,000 Wii U consoles in the last three months — 100,000 per month — while the previous quarter only saw 160,000 units sold. Undoubtedly, games such as Pikmin 3 and Zelda: The Wind Waker HD accounted for the big sales increase. The recent Wii U price cuts also played a big role, according to Nintendo. Total Wii U sales to date are at 3.9 million — a far cry from Nintendo’s estimate of selling 9 million by April 2014. Total Wii U software sales to date are just below 20 million (digital sales not included). In the earnings report, Nintendo says the Wii U hardware “still has a negative impact on Nintendo’s profits. Overall, Nintendo lost $82 million last quarter, compared to a profit of $80 million during the same quarter last year. It’s not all bad news, however, as the 3DS is continuing its solid sales run. Nintendo sold 2 million 3DS and 3DS XL consoles last quarter, reaching 35 million in total. As for the Wii U, Nintendo hopes that Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD, and the new bundles will push sales past the 5 million mark in the upcoming quarter (which includes the holiday shopping season). local_offer Nintendo wii u wii u sales stars Further Reading A photo of Nintendo’s first office in 1 Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Doctor_Jest As we creep closer and closer to the release of the PS4 and XBoxOne (after it was recently revealed that PS4 won’t even play mp3s or CDs or stream media from your local media servers)…. I think the Wii U is looking like the most attractive console this generation. I don’t really give two monkeys if EA doesn’t support it. EA is a curse. 🙂 NkoSekirei Ea are abunch of crybabies that couldnt get their way by merging their stupid origin with miiverse which nintendo said no so i dont give a dam about those pansies Doctor_Jest Exactly. They release rehashed software for the Wii U and wonder why it doesn’t sell well. I did like NFS:Most Wanted (it performed better on the Wii U than the other two consoles), but they recycled the rest and phoned the launch titles in. I think they wanted to do poorly on the Wii U sales so they could pour their dollars into PS4 and XBox One titles (putting “all their eggs in one basket, as it were.) I mean, what games did EA put out on the Wii? I can’t even remember, since I loathe EA after they acquired and ruined most of the game companies I enjoyed in my younger days (Origin, etc.) Guesty pooh! NFS is awesome because Criterion have values, not EA. Criterion squeeze some amazing visuals out of nearly every console they work on and push themselves to do better every time they release a game. I’ve shown people NFS on my Wii U on my 55 inch t.v compared to NFS on my 360 and the difference is huge. Converted a few friends doing that, then give them the gamepad and watch their faces when they change night into day at the touch of a button, sold. JB It’s 18 bucks on Amazon, I keep putting it off because I have it on 360, I think I just need to go ahead and pull the trigger. Lol Nathan Verbois Ok, as a fan of Nintendo and games period, I sympathize with you a lot (especially as I want Mirror’s Edge 2 on my soon to own Wii U), but I have to take objection to your statement that EA wanted to do poorly with Wii U sales. NO business wants to do poorly in sales ever. EVER. EA is obviously betting a lot on the Xbox One and PS4, but they’ve been trying out every market out there (like mobile and social) to find new revenue streams. There are simply a lot more factors that play into future business decisions for large, publicly traded companies like EA. I’ve worked for EA off and on for roughly seven years (right after John Riccitiello came back to try and fix EA from the inside out) and the vast majority of us care very much about making great games and giving the consumer more of what they want, and so do many of the top executives. The executives though, have to ultimately answer to the shareholders, who often do not get the intricacies of the games industry (some of the execs don’t either). Due more to the shrinking economy than anything else, EA has had to layoff hundreds of employees, restructure studios or close them altogether, and generally tighten up their budgets and portfolios to return to profitability (which they are required by law as a publicly traded company). Tough decisions had to be made, many of which NO ONE liked, not the executives, not the management, nor the rest of the grunts like myself. Despite these cutbacks, EA still took a lot of risks (for such a large company). They picked up Double Fine’s Brutal Legend. They greenlit Mirror’s Edge, one of the freshest and coolest FPA games out there, that didn’t sell too well. Despite that, they greenlit the even bigger and more ambitious sequel for next-gen. We got games like Kingdoms of Amalur (a personal fave), Alice: Madness Returns, DeathSpank, Bulletstorm, The Orange Box, Shank, Shadows of the Damned, and many others, that we might not have gotten on console or period if it weren’t for EA. You may have many reasons to hate EA, and like any large company, they have plenty of issues (too much middle management and bureaucracy like most other large companies), but they are not wholly to blame for the poor sales of their titles and their current lack of faith in the Wii U. Releasing Most Wanted and Mass Effect 3 months after their initial releases, should have been done with the expectation of lower sales sure, but Nintendo is far more to blame for their poor install base than any of the third party developers. I love Nintendo, and I know they will recover and succeed with the Wii U, but they have failed to market this wonderful little console properly, and they seemed to have failed to evangelize it to third parties ahead of the original release. Devs needed to know long before they got dev kits that the Wii U was built far more for next-gen programming techniques that would heavily leverage the GPGPU and large 32 MB cache of superfast EDRAM, instead of the usual trend of faster and faster processors and large amounts of DRAM . Trying to port games over from the current gen met with very middling results that may not have happened if they had talked more to devs earlier. I was eager to pick up a Wii U last year, but I ultimately didn’t for a couple of reasons, one of which was lack of compelling software beyond ZombiU and Super Mario U along with a fairly high price for a console that made it difficult for my budget conscious lifestyle (I was out of work otherwise I might have anyway). That’s changing with the price drop, the Zelda bundle (which I’ve put on layaway), and steady build of quality games coming out. Whether we ever get EA back (I still want ME 2 on my Wii U) is not really an issue. Nintendo will succeed as they always do. On that, we can absolutely agree. The Clockwork Being But the thing is if you want to make a profit, don’t give a system games no one wants. Don’t announce a special partnership and then flat out insult your partner.(I believe the partnership went away with John Riccitiello since I think he wanted to make the Nintendo/EA partnership better but then resigned as CEO). I’m sure some of the people at EA are great people but the marketing towards the Wii U was despicable and freaking greedy. First off we have Mass Effect 3. The trilogy is out on all other systems out there with a 59.99 price tag. But Wii U owners are taken for imbeciles and given a full price Mass Effect 3. If EA had given the trilogy it would have sold like crazy. It would have served the Wii U great during the drought to come because you basically have 3 games in one. Now let’s look at the Rehashes called FIFA and Madden. Can you tell me a perfect excuse for selling last years game instead of the new versions. The only launch titles that was actually well made was Most Wanted but it was delayed and put to March. A good game, really well done but it came too late. Let’s not get started on the bad PR that EA was giving Nintendo. Calling it old tech, saying that FB3 doesn’t work on it because of its old tech. I mean yeah any company have the right to find a way to make money but EA wanted their games that took 2 months to make to fail. They completely ALIENATED the Wii U fanbase. How can you expect your game to do good on a console when you call that console CRAP every chance you get. Simon Stevens Seconded, you’d think after doing no work at all they would have enough in the bank to support wii u with new games, I’d have been happy with a my sims again, especially since there’s no animal crossing for wii u in sight, the nintendo audience isn’t that of playstation or xbox, there should have been something new and worth owning, it never happened, lazy lazy lazy, EA (EVERYTHING ASS), terrible company, after what’s been said, I hope Nintendo have seen the back of them, any company that think themselves above a respectful company like Nintendo who have stood the test of time is just awful and disgusting. Nathan Verbois Yeah, I met Peter Moore once at the Xbox 360 launch event. J Allard was right there next to him. J was awesome and gracious who like Peter, had been gang pressed by every happy Xbox fan there, while Peter couldn’t give me the time of day. He was in a hurry, and I have no idea what goes on in his life or what had happened to him that day, so it’d be very rash to evaluate his character in any way as that was only one exposure. Still, considering I had met Seamus Blackley at the original Xbox Unleashed event in 2001, and he was awesome and gracious like J, after being mobbed by fans, I’ve always wondered about Peter Moore’s character as he came off a little full of himself (obviously Xbox wasn’t as popular back then, but the event lasted over 48 hours at Universal Citywalk and Seamus was there for A LOT of it, so he was fairly tired like the rest of us). I also met John Riccitello a few times over the course of working at EA and he was very pleasant and very open about the business mistakes that had occurred under his leadership and where EA was headed. Very, very smart, well informed man. You could ask him a question about the industry and interactive entertainment in general happening anywhere on the globe and he’d come right back with a very thorough and detailed answer. He did a Q&A with the dev team I was on at the time, and he got a few hardball questions from staff members! I honestly don’t know if any of those rumors are true and I couldn’t comment on them if I did know, but those are all fair and valid points. I was simply trying to make the point that EA is a publicly traded company that has to be very calculated in their risks and new ventures, and that often means taking chances can be very dangerous to their stock if they even fail for a little while and then they have to answer to the stockholders. That and Nintendo is more responsible for their poor install base than any third party. Mercurio2054 poor ports, i have mass efect 3 on wii u and i search some of the bugs that i found, and a big bug in Cerberus Headquarters, i was thinking: “sht, the wii u is a crap… all this bugs..” but NO! all of this bugs’re old bugs… and they did not take the time to solve some of them! Entropyguy I’ve heard of EA being called a ‘masochistic octopus’ in some quarters because they’re made up of lots of different parts that all kind of hate each other. That said, the only thing I want from EA is a SimCity that I don’t have to connect to the internet to play. Doctor_Jest I forgot about that fiasco. They took a game that was possibly the greatest franchise since Civilization and turned it into a mess nothing could clean up. Doctor_Jest I can never prove that they intentionally sabotaged their own sales, but think of EA’s lineup on the Wii U and you get a picture that EA didn’t care if it did well, they had no long term plan to support the console. For whatever reason (Nintendo’s past problems with 3rd Party devs) EA didn’t market anything remotely recent (well ME3, I suppose was close) and knowing that the Wii U is the nascent next-gen system, they could’ve been working their EA titles into the pipeline as ports. Instead, they rehash old codebases (NFL 2k13 wasn’t the same on the Wii U) or repackage the same game and call it a new one (FIFA). Their disdain for consoles was pretty apparent even when Trip Hawkins owned the company. I liked their computer games. But their insistence on always-on DRM and using their own servers for multiplayer (effectively killing a game when they felt like it, like they do with Madden every year or two) is a big reason why I hate the company. They also blew the acquisition of Origin Systems, a company that I loved (and games I loved even more)… and turned it into a nonsense brand not unlike what Ifogrames (I think) did to Atari. I don’t know how Nintendo handles their pre-release console deliveries to developers, but I think it might need a revamp. 🙂 I am not a “hater” in the internet sense of the word. I don’t want it to sound like I’m just being anti the other consoles…. I just hate that EA is not even close to the company that gave us Racing Destruction Set and Archon. 🙂 Nathan Verbois True, they’re way too big for that level of passion and commitment. I never really got to play Ultima as I always had just a console. To this day I’ve never owned a new computer, so it was always Nintendo and Sega for me (and Atari in the early days). I’ve only recently come to love Sony and the inevitable migration of non-gaming execs into key positions on the Xbox team have led to my dislike of their future path (I miss Ed Fries the most). In the end though, I know I can always count Nintendo. Looking forward to the naysayers eating some crow. 😉 Doctor_Jest You owe it to yourself to buy a $20 PC and play Ultima 🙂 It’s a wonderfully nostalgic RPG… back in the good old days. (I played it on an Atari 800xl, ironically enough.) 🙂 readypembroke The only games I love that EA put out for the Wii so far is Medal of Honor Vanguard and Medal of Honor Heroes 2. Hulkamania EA = Egomaniac Assholes Deadpool U You said it brother! THEMIGHTYDOOVDE Also, take into account the Wii U has arguably the strongest line up over the next 6 months (including it’s back catalogue) on all next gen. If Nintendo push a strong advertising campaign over the holidays then I think it might not be the white wash all the fanboys keep chiming about. IcyCatt All they need is a commercial. Something on tv for casuals. Not everyone is addicted to the internet. And I gotta say, I’ve been playing Wii Fit U, and if it doesn’t scream system seller I must have a hearing problem. DragonSilths Casuals have lost interest in consoles. They don’t want a Wii U, or a PS4 or an Xbox One. They want $0.99 Ipad games. Doctor_Jest Most assuredly that will be the case for most of the Wii audience who had that console as their first (and most likely last) one. But I think the uncommitted gamers of old who may have moved on might come back if a beloved Franchise gets resurrected (with new IP, not an HD remake… though that seemed to be a big seller.) DragonSilths I think people are gravely overestimating the number of actual gamers. The people who actually buy a console every gen is not the majority. Its the minority. 10 million and that’s about it. Doctor_Jest That’s true. I wonder how the millions and millions spent on AAA titles will sustain the industry. It seems like it’ll cost too much with a smaller market. Michael Hancock “X” Deadpool U Personally I will admit BF4 looks impressive but EA will not catching my business any time soon especially because of the Mass Effect trilogy crap they pulled. Petri I hanged around for BF 4 beta. And now I’m done with EA. Maybe they might not mess up Mirror’s Edge? But wouldn’t get my hopes up anymore. Keyser Wii U definitely has the best game line up this holiday, (and 2014 is looking really good as well) and its nice to see sales picking up. And anyone thinking MS and Sony will launch without any problems will likely be disappointed. Anyone else remember Wii U at launch? It sold like 3 million during the holiday season, but lost traction shortly after. Now, as sales are picking up, Xbox and PS will launch, initial sales will be high, and only time will tell if they will stay that way… Regardless, it will be a very interesting launch period. (And I would also like to add that the price cut and Zelda bundle came only weeks before the quarter’s end so sales may actually be better than they appear. Here’s hoping! 🙂 ) The True Gamer Titanfall and infamous second son should keep sales up until e3 IcyCatt But people can get them for PC, instead of buying a new console. Considering them as system sellers, it will only go so far, as a vast majority of gamers prefer a PC. Daniel Gonzalez Infamous Second Son is a Sony exclusive, not to mention a 1st party title. The True Gamer Infamous isn’t even on PC. Check your facts handsomeguy A vast a majority of gamers prefer consoles . Adderell Not entirely true or else the biggest developers would be focused on syphoning money from PC gamers. As you can tell by the fights over consoles with limited hardware, that’s not happening. Adderell You forget how things have worked recently for Sony and Microsoft titles. Most of them are front loaded, meaning they sell great for the first few weeks and soon fall off when it comes to longevity. The True Gamer That’s how most games sell. Nintendo is a cash grabbing company that releases usually one game of a series per generation, has so few games that most people need to only play those because they don’t want third parties taking game sales, and keep the games at basically launch price for 5 years. Nintendo is a greedy company that runs on gimmicks and brainwashing, Adderell There is not one company out there, Entertainment or otherwise, that does not run on gimmicks and Brainwash..I mean marketing. Look up the definition of Gimmick and Marketing. Then think. These companies, whether deemed good or bad, want your money. DragonSilths PS4 and Xbox One will repeat the Wii U launch. Sell out at Launch, then have a droubt. There is nothing major for the Xbox One till Titan Fall which in is March, then Halo 5, Fall 2014 lol. PS4 doesn’t get anything huge till Destiny in 2014 in my opinion. Which is a multiplat. Games like HK3 and FF15 aren’t for quite awhile so meh. Jelle Knibbe And right in the middle of that drought: BAM! Mariokart 8! DragonSilths And Bayonetta 2, Maybe Smash (Mid 2014) Also maybe Monoliths X? Hopefully… Archiq09 EA hate Nintendo Because …. Nintendo has make Nintendo Network servers and EA not want it cause they want Origin servers on WiiU …. DragonSilths EA helped Nintendo make the Nintendo Network. EA saw it was good and wanted to let Origin absorb it. Nintendo said uhh no its our online…you cant take it. EA got pissed and here we are. DragonSilths It baffles me that any gamer would buy any EA game. But people still buy BF4 and get the Day 1 DLC and all that crap, People will get Starwars Battlefront just cause its Starwars Battlefront…I just cant pay EA a single penny. I would rather pay a terrorist organization who wants to blow up EA’s HQ lol. ScrewAttack Easiest thing to do is buy their games second hand! They don’t see a red cent then. This is what I do, since I enjoy Battlefield and Dead Space (no other titles jump to mind right now though). Magnus Eriksson You forgot this one: http://bmimages.jr.com/productimages/MAJ01028.PNG?CELL=325%2C325&QLT=85&CVT=jpeg ScrewAttack Yawn. Pathetic. Magnus Eriksson <3 DragonSilths Not a single game of their’s has ever caught my eye. It has nothing to do with their actual games. They could make a Banjo Kazooie game. I want NOTHING to do with ANYTHING they have ever came near or been involved with. ScrewAttack Fair enough! Magnus Eriksson Its very close now. In just a few weeks we will see if those 56 upvotes are nothing but fanboys without any grip of reality or people who have understood something no one could see. I wonder if people will be that righteous that they will excuse themselves for their behaviour on this page if they are proven to be wrong? Probably not… Jon This is the internet, when do people ever excuse themselves. lol Magnus Eriksson True 😀 Daniel Gonzalez That’s for sure. Lol. Mario Uh huh. Doctor_Jest The PS4 won’t have mp3 or CD support (or streaming media support) at launch. That’s a big no-no when the PS3 did it. The XBox One is still $100 more expensive with an accessory that Microsoft says it won’t make mandatory, but won’t sell one of their consoles without it (Kinect). The bloom is off the rose. If Microsoft hadn’t stuck their huge foot in their mouths about used games and DRM, Sony wouldn’t have gotten the boost at their reveal. Their whole schtick was “we don’t do what Microsoft does”…. which prompted Microsoft to ratchet back their draconian measures (again, nothing permanent… a software update could reinstate those wonderful restrictions.) After Sony ripped out Linux capabilities from consoles retroactively, I am not going to put it past either company to renege on their current “sales pitches.” If this generation sells 1/3 the consoles the last one does, I think they’ll call it a success. The market’s in a very different place, and quite frankly, Microsoft and Sony don’t get where it’s going. Nintendo to a lesser degree, but none of the companies are prepared to lose to the portable revolution that is still steamrolling ahead. I am not saying this as a fanboy, and I couldn’t give two monkeys how many consoles any of the companies sell. I chose the Wii U because it was the least restrictive of the three. I hate Sony because of Rootkits, proprietary memory formats and sizes, removing linux from my console, and basically making a mockery of my personal data so anyone with a modem could steal it. I hate microsoft because of the 5 360’s I’ve had RRoD, all because they couldn’t design a proper case to let air flow through the system. Their QA is either blind or stupid. That said… those fiascoes, foibles and fuckups are why I am not interested in the PS4 or XBox One. I’m not alone either… Adderell Let’s be fair in remembering that the PS4 (supposedly) is supposed to receive an update to do some of those things. Doctor_Jest When it does, then we’ll see. But the fact that it doesn’t at launch is a major disappointment. The PS3 did those things at launch in 2006… did Sony think no one would notice? This is like the XBox One’s DRM… it’s gone “for now”…. it’ll rear its ugly head sooner rather than later… Microsoft doesn’t cave that easily. Erik Likely an update don’t you think? Doctor_Jest That’s the problem. If they have to do an OTA update for something that was in the last console at launch, doesn’t that seem odd? Or even a little shady? Or perhaps the PS4 is a rushed product and it’d pay to wait a year to get one. Adderell I agree with you as there is a rumor out there that Sony was on the same path as Microsoft in that they wanted to employ over-extended DRM to secure their profits and justify having people pay for everything. Mark my words, DRM will be back. It will likely stand between gamers (The addicts) and what they want. Sony and Microsoft (The dealers. Including, to a lesser extent, Nintendo) will sell it as something people absolutely need and will somehow cover up how much it actually takes from consumers, and consumers will eventually eat it up Doctor_Jest You speak truth. The DRM monster isn’t gone. It’s hanging around in the shadows. Sure there’s DRM on the Virtual Console and so on, but at least Nintendo hasn’t ever hinted at banning used games. 🙂 I don’t know why they don’t follow GOG.com’s lead… no DRM. Reasonable prices for classics… and they aren’t trying to lock your computer/console down. Doctor_Jest Remember, a while back Sony filed a patent for “one time game key” sort of technology that was purported to be a DRM scheme to eliminate used games. I forget the specifics, but it did anger me when I read it. Adderell I told a friend this same thing last night: Sony and Microsoft are very similar to republicans and democrats. They claim to be against one another in policy but behind closed doors are in bed together planning and then driving towards the same goal. Meanwhile, Nintendo (the current “Independent”) proposes the very best solution for all gamers no matter how simple, technology-wise, and different in concept it is. All in all, it isn’t smart to deal with either Sony nor Microsoft as their tactics are akin to a perpetual trap even if we are only talking about electronics. Doctor_Jest Yeah, I remember Windows “Phone Home Edition” and Sony’s audio CD rootkits…. Makes me wonder why people even give those clowns the time of day much less money. The True Gamer theres a reason nobody cares about the wii u. its a terrible idea from a terrible company. its over priced, has had no games, and has the craziest fanboys in the world Doctor_Jest Thanks, but remember, the asylum closes at 6. SomeFluffer64 EA will come back. It took Capcom a few years to make N64 games… and when they did, they were damn good! Doctor_Jest I don’t hold much hope for that, but it would be nice… EA’s really great at eating crow anyway. 🙂 sharlo galmo And the last two weeks, the WiiU sells 120k…Nintendo is doing good right now. Doctor_Jest Very true. I think the issue is a spat of “let’s see if we can tank the current seller” by those other guys… and fans of those other guys’ consoles. It’s only a couple of weeks before the PS4 hits the shelves… and three (I think for the XBox One)… so we’re going to see plenty of anti-nintendo rhetoric swirling around the internet in hopes of clouding the purchase issue for the holiday season (which I think won’t be as gangbusters as Sony or Microsoft hope it’ll be.) sharlo galmo I think that the PS4 and Xbone gonna get the same problem like the WiiU. On the beginning they gonna sell good, but then sells gonna go down. THEMIGHTYDOOVDE I wonder how long it will take for Sony/MS to start choking the life out of their current gen console when they realise they’re outselling their next gen counterparts post christmas! sharlo galmo Indeed, we gonna see how it goes. Nintendo is on a good position. Quicksilver88 Financially Nintendo’s position with WiiU is not bad (making crazy $$$ on 3DS and 3DS games like Pokémon/Zelda). They took the big hit last year and also lost money on WiiU this year but if they can just keep the momentum they are building now then they will likely break even next year while $ony and M$ post big losses absorbing the hardware and development costs on their new machines. The bigger question for Nintendo is can they keep 3rd parties interested as even when great versions come out like AC4 and Rayman they still don’t sell. I think Nintendo needs to ‘lease’ out some of their IPs that they don’t want to do in house for 3rd party development (like how about a new Fzero., Waverace, Excitebike 64) Then the team that does the development will have a better chance at financial success selling Nintendo’s IPs to Nintendo customers/hardware and Nintendo can do the publishing (which is a financial risk as well). I also think Nintendo needs to do more collaborations like they are doing with SMTxFE and SSBM…..then they need to be willing to put some money and effort into either 3rd party exclusives or multiplats. It needs to be done selectively but you need certain games on a system to appeal to certain users and WiiU is lacking in that way…..I mean sports gamers want Madden, Fifa, NBA2K and if it takes a little cash to make that happen Nintendo should do it. Sports gamers won’t even touch a WiiU when it has no content for them….same with racing gamers….you have 1 arcade racer NFSMW and one kiddie gamer Sonic Racing and that is it….no dirt, f1, or other simulative game…these are big holes if Nintendo is serious about being a machine for core gamers. Quicksilver88 I bet less than a year for M$ as they have no meaningful developments left in the pipeline for X360….$ony has sown more patience and ability to keep the ‘JR’ system around with both the PSONE and PS2_Slim lasting years after their new machines came out. $ony also has several major first party titles coming for PS3 yet this year and in 2014 so expect PS3 to get cheaper and stay around while XB360 is gone quick. Nathan Verbois I agree. I will be getting a PS4 soon after my Wii U, as I’m a huge fan of games (so an Xbox One is my future eventually as well), but I believe they are all going to face a similar issue to Wii U, though probably not as pronounced. Already, many editorials are questioning whether there is a need to upgrade to next-gen right away, as so far the content is just more of the same. Nintendo’s building up steam AND the innovation of the Gamepad will help it continue to stand out from the other consoles which are really just more of the same. People should have learned by now as Nintendo has proven time and again, that all they really need to jump start their sales, is quality first party games like a 3D Mario, a new Mario Kart, AND a Super Smash Bros. Guess what? They’re all coming very soon. Mario this winter, Mario Kart in the Spring and SSB sometime after that. Landesca In regards to my game tastes, Nintendo has had a better starter than I think PS4 will in coming up with the kind of games I like. In fact the only games that I’m aware of that I’m interested in for PS4 are Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts 3. I know Xbone will have those titles as well but if I have to look at how games went for me on Xbox 360, other than the cross platform titles, it really had nothing to offer my game tastes and that is my expectation for this generation as well. Sony will get more Japanese influenced titles, that’s what I like. But I see that they are not coming out right away and understandable so because Sony wants to grab the Western market first, they already win against Xbone in Japan. But because of that, I won’t be betting a PS4 for quite a while. Jon Turner And even then, KH3 has a chance of getting a WiiU port as well. Hipster Victor Why this guy get more downvotes? He’s telling the truth, Not even Witcher 3 is coming out this year Mercurio2054 as you can see almost all the downvotes are like 5 or 6 in lots of comments, could be some one with that number of accounts. Quicksilver88 WiiU and PS4 for me as well…..but no PS4 until next year (maybe my birthday in April) because just about everything of interest was pushed back from launch…..WiiU is getting interesting and there are now a lot of good games and lots of variety…I bought it in January and have enjoyed it this year but now I have more content than I can play with Rayman, Zelda, AC4, and next week Ghosts all eating up my time. M$ is doing what they always do which is ‘buying’ some exclusives at launch but $ony is the company (other than Nintendo) that owns a crap load of quality development studios and IPs that can sustain a machine over the years. I think if M$ one device to rule them all strategy doesn’t catch on they are the company in real trouble this generation as within a year they and Sony will have all the same multiplats, but Sony will have lots of top exclusives while Microsoft will have what Halo, Gears, and Forza…….not really that exciting to me. Quicksilver88 See this is the sensible projection and one I have been saying all year as well……This last generation (7th) may very well end up having been the golden era of gaming (sales wise). X360 and PS3 both did over 70mil units, Wii over 100mil, DS over 150mil and PSP over 70mil. Just saw numbers on 3DS and it has now topped 35mil in about 2.5 years….it will likely hit 70mil which is good but only going to do 1/2 of what DS did. WiiU, even if Nintendo gets it turned around will be very lucky to do 35mil units…..PS4 and XB1 are essentially the same damned hardware and $ony has much better first party teams and exclusives as well as gets Japanese exclusives so I think M$ may be the company in trouble outside the USA. M$ has done pathetic in 2 generations in Japan (seriously like less than 1mil units) so they are not viable in that territory. The slow adoption rate is going to keep multiplats coming out on PS360 thru 2014 which is going to further slow the adoption rate. Right now almost everything interesting in the launch windows have been pushed back to TBA 2014 and all you are getting on PS4/XB1 are slightly better versions of the same games coming for last generation…..Meanwhile WiiU has many of those top games this Xmas and a lot of last years games in the budget bin and many more exclusives coming now and in the 1st qtr……its the right time to buy a WiiU and enjoy the variety it offers. spigzone Those tens of millions of casual gamers and newbies that bought into the Wii fad and six months later put their Wii into a closet aren’t coming back. Ever. Eventually most of the hardcore Nintendo base will buy a Wii U, The problem for Nintendo is that base is a fraction of what it once was. I’ll be astounded if Wii U lifetimes sales hits 20M. Samuel Adam Waldron I dunno, I’d reserve that judgement until the latest Wii Sports title. Not that I’m a massive fan or anything, But the Sports franchise sold fantastically well in 2006 and 2009- it could easily continue to propel Wii U sales. I know a lot of people who never owned a game console before the Wii- and they still break it out to play Wii Sports and Wii Sport Resort. William Short Hear me now, PS4 and X1 is gonna have the same problem. What these trolls (Truthteller and matt) don’t know is that every console goes through this stage. Only reason they know about nintendo is because the media is happily spreading the news like its butter. Nevertheless it will happen with the others. Simon Stevens Yet with ps4 and x1 they’ll put it down to the economy and smartphones, they might even blame it on roku for providing a smart tv service, when all else fails, they always blame it on *pulls you to one side, looks left and right* …..Aliens……. shhhhh Jacob D. Taylor This comment is going to be shrouded by all the others but I agree with you William. So many predict the XB1 and PS4 are just going to FLY off store shelves, toddlers and grandpa’s are going to get their first system, and pregnant mothers will give birth while playing Halo 5. It really is rediculous. I mean the amount of rediculous forecasting they have for these systems is completely unachievable by absolutely anyone. By their reasoning every other market in the world is going to pause so that the gaming market and specifically Microsoft and Sony can triumph. It’s not going to be that way. Now… I feel Sony is getting the hint. They are advertising SMART! They are treating the situation like it really is, that everyone’s on the fence, that the industry is in a grey area and that they need to fight for the crowd. They are also going in with the attitude that ‘we make games, and that’s #$*#&$*& it.” Which I feel is going to work for them tremendously well. Then you have XB1 whic his saying we sold this many ( which doesn’t acount for millions of red ringed systems being repurchased by fanboys) and the world loves us for no reason so buy our #*%&$ system. That’s really what they are saying. We’re going to offer mediocre crap again, with crappy crapy service and force the crappy crapy crappy stuff on you on top of it because our dick is huge. That’s their platform and I feel it is going to get shoved so far down their throat that they choke. They’ll bounce back because in the end they’re smart. But it will hurt. handsomeguy Not really Your money Only time will tell Martijn Plasmans The ps4 and Xbone have Battlefield 4 with DLC, COD with DLC and The Division upcoming…those are titles that are very interesting for the next coming months. If they are in your genre that is. Leo I agree. This is a clear symptom of the upcoming crash of global economy. Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft better be prepared for the worst, the time is near. Doctor_Jest Ahh,I’ve got a huge backlog of games. It won’t affect me too much. As long as I don’t get too many critters eating stuff out of the garden. Seriously though, the industry itself is due for a correction. That correction is coming from Ouya, tablets, phones and sites like gog.com (to a lesser extent, I just love that site.) The cost of developing AAA titles is outstripping the market’s ability to make up the cost in sales. They need to stop making so many expensive titles (for show and wow with pricey voice acting etc.) and make some more reasonable titles. One of my favorite games (I first played on the Live Marketplace, but bought the PC version) was Torchlight. A game that was admittedly written by the original Diablo devs was damn fun. And it had NO high priced actors, cutscenes, etc. I think I’m in the minority, being an old fart and remembering playing my Atari 2600 to joyous wee hours of the morning…. but I think the concept of gaming as a substitute for a popcorn movie is getting less and less viable… and they’re going to have to stop being such free-spenders about the cost of game development. Throw some less hyped stuff in at a reasonable price. People buy those games like crack for their phones…. spigzone Reality alert – A ten month old console selling at a rate of 240K/month worldwide is not ‘doing good right now’. It’s doing less heartbreakingly disastrous. Magnus Eriksson Its so fun to see the downvotes of a post that states nothing but the truth. What does that say of this page? spigzone it says a whole lotta people like living in reality.bubbles. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 like your mom, sonny 🙂 i own u like that spigzone You’re a paragon of penury. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 You know what makes me sad? YOU DO! Maybe we should chug on over to Mamby Pamby Land so we can find some self confidence for you ya jackwagon! Tissue? Crybaby. spigzone how old are you? Magnus Eriksson I dont think its about age, more about lack of medication. Probably some psychopathic kid who can live out his dreams on the internet. 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 It’s about your psychological constipation-It’s driving me crazy how disturbingly subsequently ignorant you and your star crossed lover are. You two think living out a fantasy of lying to people on the Internet to satisfy your empty holes in life is gonna change anything? You two are useless. Go ahead; give another ridiculous comment that proves how dubious you two dickheads are. Fucking foreigners. LOL. ROFLMAO. You had enough yet bitchtoy- I know you’re dying for more? HAHAHAHA People will dreams grow up to be somebody while those without them grow up to be dumbcunts like you who like to twists the truth? How did you like that oral stimulation cocksucker? Not enough action for you? LET’S GET IT STARTED WHORES!!!! XD 0___O XP o__o ^__^ <3 spigzone Does my little snugums want his mommy? Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 No dumbfuck I wanna fucking kill you with a Texas chainsaw by first sawing off your spigot and getting you in the zone! spigzone Does my little snugums want mommy to stroke his little spigot? Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 Gross! Your mom seduced you!? FREAK OF NATURE! I ain’t yo snugums-but what I do know for sure is that you’re my basic bitch and that you’ll do as say and get the fuck outta here? Are we clear, or do I need to knock some more sense into your pea sized cranium, putrid bastard, as I don’t think it can take much more before it implodes and you DIE!? spigzone Bombastic inanity is not a substitute for wit. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 you talking about your mom again? spigzone You’re boring. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 Is that a fact or an opinion? spigzone His responses do increasingly bend in that direction. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 which one? the one of a mobius strip which goes on without end? yeah, I think that’s the one. I’m still here, retard-anything else I should know besides you increasingly bending our argument to your will with your unfounded lies? you scared to talk to me directly? let give u soft words of encouragement: go buy a hanky, wipe your nose, and GROW THE FUCK UP already! it’s making me sick watching you and your partner in crime Magnus the Erotic continue this nonsensical bickering…while also entertaining at the same time. keep it coming; I know you’re bored. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 As old as my tongue spigzone Tweenish it is. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 *double facepalm* Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 you didn’t even get the reference-you’re more gullible than I anticipated. you’re definitely not from U.S. goodbye, sugarcunt. Happy trails, on rainbow shit and unicorns.:) Magnus Eriksson Excactly how is that good? Thats extremely bad. Thats below 3.2M in a year, and one third of excpected sales. Quicksilver88 Actually with the recent numbers it is up to almost 4mil….lol. Still bad especially when the launch window sold what over 2.5mil. I do think this generation is going to be hard on all the manufactures. M$ and $ony are both predicted to do about the same as Nintendo 2.5mil in the launch window. Let’s see how they fair after that. I think they are going to each have a tough 6-9 months in 2014 though just like WiiU did in 2013. They will not have the extreme droughts, but so many of the games that do come out in 2014 will also be on ps360 making it hard for the average, non-zealous gamer to justify buying a new $500-$600 machine (with a game, online card, tax). Meanwhile after the launch glow….WiiU may have another ‘window’ or opportunity to do well. It will have 1-2 exclusives coming out per month with big sellers like DK, MK, X, Bayonetta rolling out in the first 2 qtrs. If Nintendo can get to 9-10mil units by mid 2014 that will be impressive…..its hard to believe given even the current ‘improved’ sales but its foolish to just write off Nintendo when they have a track record of selling hardware once their exclusives start to pile up on a platform. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 someone’s who’s making sense…though sales aren’t as bad as they were before regardless of their projected sales target. Wii U’s window is this holiday in Japan before PS4 and Xbox One arrive and also everywhere else as bigger territories mostly guarantee bigger sales. and yes, writing Nintendo off is a huge mistake. never underestimate the big N, as just as they brought the industry back up once they can do it again. Magnus Eriksson At least you are reasonable and think through what you write. Kudos for that! 🙂 Quicksilver88 I hope I am wrong and all systems sell like hot cakes as I love gaming but the economy and price points are factors. Nintendo will be fine and WiiU well end up getting its share of gems even if it is a commercial failure. I am one of those that largely owns Nintendo to play Nintendo and other exclusives. I play multiplats on other systems but actally like a lot about the WiiU…sure I wish it was a tad better spec wise but the Gamepad concept and controller I really like and think could do so much more with proper implementation. I really have enjoyed playing meaty games like ME3 and now AC4 on WiiU because offTv play gives great oppurtunity to play with out the Tv. Games look fabulous on the Gamepad, almost better than HDTV. I also like the dual screen concept…mapping may be a basic use but really helps in games with big maps and collecting or combat. So I would love to see the WiiU get competent ports (which a few have been) and have held off buying PS4 to spend my multiplat money on WiiU for now. Jacob D. Taylor Good stance on all of this. It’s nice to see someone who actually … you know, looks at the picture and thinks about it. I differ in a few areas, where I do believe may the best product win. I feel that PS4 and Wii U are good products. I cannot say the same for the Xbox. My second deviation is that my multiplats I also buy on the Wii U. I can’t tell you how much Deus Ex and Mass Effect 3 entertain me on teh Wii U, besides looking better than their PS360 counterparts, using the map on teh gamepad, controlling hacking and commanding units is just so much more entertaining to me. After reading your post againg I see you do multiplat on Wii U which is nice. I will be getting a PS4 down the road for Sony exclusives which always been good. Quicksilver88 I so agree on the real time mapping…..I found it to be so useful in ME3 during combat, especially with enemies that used cloaking. It is great in AC4 as well because the maps are so big and there is a lot of collection side/quests. I hope in the next update Nintendo finds a way to map Wii classic controller functions to the gamepad….being able to play WiiU games like Xenoblade, Last Story, and 007, and Wiiware/VC games entirely on the gamepad would be incredible. I too like $ony’s exclusives and the game I think looks cool is The Order 1886. Likely will get a PS4 when that or Naughty Dogs’ first game comes out. I have owned both XB and X360 and found them to be good systems, but I don’t like the direction M$ is taking things and unless some must play game comes out on XB1 I don’t see me buying them this cycle….. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 YES! finally a human being who appreciates Wii U. THANK YOU! also, the point is Wii U won’t be a failure. The Virtual Boy was a once in a lifetime thing for Nintendo; it’ll never happen to them again-I don’t see why everyone keeps saying it when they know it’s not true. Nintendo is smarter than they were then; NID. May Nintendo live long and prosper, and never die 🙂 I myself only really play Nintendo’s consoles for the exclusives and agree with most of your experiences with Nintendo, such as playing third party on other consoles and wishing for a little spec jump but appreciating the gameplay provided with the GamePad. Now we just need Zelda Wii U to show everyone why Nintendo is the bomb. Quicksilver88 The system has really improved so much since launch both in the system software and in the games library. I was noticing last night how entering/exiting things like MiiVerse, eShop, and games is greatly improved with it only taking seconds now. As I look at my dashboard with great indie games, the .30 cent VC games and free demos and trials (like Wii Fit U) I am really starting to appreciate the system….then I launch AC4 and play that for hours on end. People don’t get how much it costs to develop and deploy a new system which is why $ony never walked from PSP and now Vita even though they both struggled mightily. Nintendo will stay the course and by the end of next year WiiU will have a substantial and varied library of good content. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 Yeah, my cousin has Wii U-has to be updated. (doesn’t play it, should’ve been mine). I actually do plan on getting some indie games and VC, especially Earthbound. I hear that one is a huge classic, but inexplicably the most expensive VC game at $10. I see what you’re saying about Sony, and I agree Nintendo will be up and running once the games are out. it’s always about the games. love the system but my family unfortunately isn’t a big fan of it (sad tears) so my progress on games such as Nintendo Land have halted as I need them to play with me on the game so I can progress further. it sucks-they’re all into Xbox and Call of Duty and Skyrim now, it ticks me off. it’s like they abandoned their origins to reinvent themselves and leave their past behind. the only members of my family who still care about Nintendo are my dad and my aunt, who actually grew up with video games as teenagers so it kinda runs in my blood that I’m a gamer 🙂 one of my sisters plays Animal Crossing: New Leaf once in awhile but that’s about it, and as for me college has keep me busy lately. but anyway, I find it sad that I may be the only one in my family who will still carry on with Nintendo consoles-home and handheld- and really wish they were more supportive but I guess that just shows that haters you stronger as they say. on the topic of Nintendo Land, do you know what happens when you get a star for each attraction, as so far I have 7 stars?-if it’s nothing big that happens I don’t know if I should continue my effort. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 No you just have Down Syndrome. Talk to your doctor and discuss with them again about possible side effects of your prescription, or over the counter since ur a total addict, to ensure you’re not experiencing them and causing others harm.hope u get well soon fail troll. I’ll be ready for when you strike back. Goodnight… or good day, wherever the hell u live I don’t care just be gone and back in your nest or cave of refuge like the good baby walrus you aren’t. Don’t wanna feed u to the Loch Ness Monster, am I right? Magnus Eriksson I have a feeling I have been talking with you on your other account. The remblance between your comments and some of the other fanboys on this page is striking. 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 I’m not a fanboy. want me to prove it to you? Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 It isn’t bad if the long term yields better results. Magnus Eriksson A post without tourettes? Keep up the good work. 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 *slow clap* Magnus Eriksson Creative. Never saw that comment before. You must feel as a real winner 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 I feel better than you ever will, that’s for sure lowlife. LOL. what next? tell me how you’re feeling little man; I know you wanna keep whining til I feed you Gerber Baby.:) Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 ok. I’ll keep up the work on your mom; gonna be a cum filled blast. HAHA XD NkoSekirei if we stop getting ports and get games that run on wii u full power then maybe some of these 3rd party devs need to get off their lazy @$$es and start putting games on the console and would help boost sales. verymetal People that are in the market for a new console should really do their research first. I see people upset and blaming 3rd party devs over how they treat the Wii U. Well, why not get the console that has the games that you want for it in the first place? Games sell systems right? What games justify owning a Wii U? I traded mine in after playing Zombi U, and have held out, hoping for something better. Sadly, it is not there. NkoSekirei troll will be troll but ur wrong about the game department dude theres tons of awsome games coming down the pipeline for the wii u maybe u should do more research verymetal Right…in 2015 the new Zelda for Wii U. That’s a lot of dust collecting. starwars360 Here list of Wii U’s Biggest titles in 2014. 🙂 Super Smash Bros. Mario Kart 8 X Bayonetta 2 Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Yarn Yoshi Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem Fast Racing Neo Watch_Dogs New Call of Duty Game Skylanders 4 Assassin’s Creed V Project CARS So amazing we got Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, X (possible Xenoblade Chronicles 2 something), Bayonetta, Donkey Kong and Yoshi returns in same year for big major for first party while rest of all others is 3rd party games!!! 🙂 William Short Don’t forget we got one more Sonic game coming next year Deadpool U You do know all consoles do is collect dust right? So unless you move your game console 24/7 that’s not an insult. Mercurio2054 my wii u have dust, and i turn it on every day/. Deadpool U Exactly my point. verymetal Its a metaphor. Look it up in the dictionary since you don’t understand. Deadpool U I know it’s a metaphor you dimwit my point is my Wii U is continuing to collect dust WHILE it’s on. So choose another metaphor that doesn’t tell me what all consoles do even while they’re in use. NkoSekirei ur the biggest idiot dude theres more games coming to the wii u besided the new zelda take ur retarded @$$ somewhere else Jon you obviously haven’t seen the games on the Wii U library now and the games coming Deadpool U So you’re saying you traded a game console worth hundreds of dollars all based on one game? That’s a sad trolling attempt and if you are that stupid then that’s your own problem because if you wanted a console with ‘tons’ of games then you should have got a console that’s been out for about 7 years then a relatively new console. verymetal The truth hurts. Not a troll, I am a Nintendo fan that has every right to be upset. I bought the Wii U, because Nintendo have always had that one game that was a must have. Not so with the Wii U. I figured by now the games would be there, and they are not. It has always been about one thing…games! They should have been here by now, I am talking the AAA must have-unique game play experience that Nintendo is known for and they have dropped they ball. I am not wrong because the proof is in the games. Deadpool U You are seriously wrong I could give list of all the exclusive Wii U must have titles but I’m not because I know people like you and you probably won’t shut up even if I do give you a list. verymetal You and you will never shut up. Deadpool U Whatever it’s sad that you made an account just to troll here. Mipaol80 Give it time man, Nintendo first party titles should never be rushed, imagine if they had rushed Super Mario Galaxy. Nintendo seems to have this issue with almost every console they release, things start slow, then they finally release all those great first party titles we buy their systems for, then system sales skyrocket. Hell I remember when the N64 released their were only a handful of games for that, and people talked crap about it and said Nintendo was dieing back then too. verymetal I hope your right. I do remember that, I was about to get rid of it after Super Mario 64, because that was it. Turok sucked so bad, it made me sick. Then GoldenEye, Ocarina, WaveRace, Starfox, my personal favorite was the WWF No Mercy (Aki) wrestling games. Yes, the N64 was awesome. With Wii U, there is just no mention of any Nintendo first party games coming that seem compelling. No hype, no screenshots, no nothing. Mario Kart and Super Smash, doesn’t cut it for me. Sorry. NkoSekirei ur i.q. drops everytime u and truth troll on here so do us all a favor and stfu verymetal My intelligence quotient is just fine; however, based on how you communicate your thoughts and ideas, your intelligence level resembles one whom suffers from a slight case of mental retardation. capitalism1023 Pikmin 3 Zombi U Wonderful 101 Zelda Windwaker HD Sonic Lost World Super Mario 3D World New Super Luigi U New Super Mario Bros. U Rayman Legends Wii Party U Scribblenauts Unmasked Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Wii Fit U Wii Sports Club Game & Wario NintendoLand Just to name a few. And I don’t care what anybody says, there’s some quality multiplatform games on the system too..namely Deus Ex Directors Cut Need for Speed Most Wanted Assassins Creed 3 Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag Ninja Gaiden 3 Batman Arkham Asylum Batman Arkham Origins Black Ops II Call of Duty Ghosts Injustice: Gods Among Us Splinter Cell: Blacklist (it’s not perfect but it’s still a good game) Mass Effect 3 Watch Dogs And I can list all the great Indie games that are on the system as well….. The True Gamer That’s scary. I consider myself a Nintendo fan, at least a little, but not a single Nintendo game launching for Wii u interests me enough to pay $60 Sol Ridgeway Don’t forget about LegoCity verymetal More than half of the 3rd party games are missing quality features compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360 that is a fact. I had Splinter Cell for Wii U, because when your starving even a sardine looks good, and trying to get on multiplayer or co-op was near impossible. I am glad that you are proud of Wii U, but I want the best possible games. In Nintendo’s history they always had that one game that was a must have. Not the case with the Wii U, not the case at all. Hey, things are looking better. I hear Zelda for Wii U will be released in… 2015…C’mon Man! capitalism1023 Funny how you mentioned nothing about any of the first party or exclusive games I listed……….Go along troll thinking that there are no good games for Wii U. verymetal Because there not even worth mentioning. C’mon keep it real. There hasn’t been anything fresh or AAA must have quality game that Nintendo is known for with the Wii U. Nintendo are known to be innovators and have unique game play experiences. Not with the Wii U. Look, Ubisoft has utilized the Wii U controller more than Nintendo has! What is that? iamserious Really sounds like you should have just gone with Sony or MS bc Nintendo has a lot of fun games out for Wii U already. Can’t believe there isn’t anything you like on Wii U. William Short And Sonic and Mario at the Winter games 2014 Simon Stevens Amazing list, yet some of the best games I’ve played have been eshop downloads, I love how there taking it seriously now, duck tales, pokemon rumble u, nano assault neo, mighty switch force 1 and 2, giana sisters and more coming all the time, games games games and more games, not a bad moto to have 🙂 unlike xb1, why bother?, i can buy and have bought a now tv box for 10 quid in the uk, 8.99 sky movies hd on demand and live channelsm 4.99 for entertainment pack on demand with fox, sky, disney etc all on board as live channels, who’s buying the x1 as the media hub microsoft want it to be?, nobody in the uk, sony have downgraded their media services and playback options, witg no games worth playing, who’s buying there console, none if the casual media watchers, that’s for sure capitalism1023 Very good news, it looks like things are finally starting to look up for Wii U. Sales numbers keep getting better and the big games are starting to come out. Also I think people are starting to do their research on the other consoles and they don’t like what they see. After 3D world releases and the holidays are in full swing, it will be back to Nintendomination!!! Itoldyouso Bought the Mario/Luigi bundle yesterday. Nice! Mipaol80 I went with the Mario/Luigi bundle too, I was kind of on the fence about that bundle vs the Legend of Zelda Wind Waker bundle (that gold border on the game pad looks awesome) but in the end I went with the Mario/Luigi bundle, bought the Zelda game separate for ten bucks less than the Mario Bros U game would have been, and ended up basically getting the Luigi game for free, hell I think I might have even saved a few bucks on top of it, thanks Nintendo! 🙂 Niknique Woo! Sales are finally picking up! CEObrainz Nintendo need to advertise Mario 3D World properly and they won’t have sales problem this Christmas, I can see Nintendo reaching 7 million if things go really well by April, but that’s only if they advertise the hell out of Mario. The True Gamer Im not buying one anytime soon. Maybe after I get a ps4, Xbox one, PSVita, and game boy micro. Seriously. I want a game boy micro. CEObrainz I had one of those, such a useless handheld….lol JB I never bought a Micro. What was so terrible about it? I remember seeing them at the stores and thinking, “my goodness it’s so tiny” CEObrainz That’s it. It’s unnecessarily small…for me anyway, the Game Boy Advance SP, which I also owned, did everything the Micro needed to do and had a bigger screen. One thing I’ll give it is that it had a much brighter screen, probably as good as the original PSP. The Clockwork Being Sp for the Win. Still have mine that I got at launch. Still play with it. CEObrainz Same, Pokemon Emerald, Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, etc. Reasons to still play on the device. JB Nintendo could be in a good position if they play their cards right. It’s all about advertising! Advertise the bejeezus out of Mario 3D world and their fall/winter games advertise the quality first party and exclusive games that already released (TW101, Pikmin ect) Advertise the price advantage and bundles… If they do all that, they could have a decent holiday season into the new year, especially (as I’ve said before) during the time PS4 and XB1 is hard to come by supply wise. Dodge Pribyl If what they said at their fisical meeting is true, they wanted to give Pokemon X/Y all their ad attention. I would expect to see more Wii U ads later this month. Shaise Mughal The Wii U needs to sell 90,000 more systems to reach its 4 million mark. By the end of this month it’ll obviously push that number, but I wont say ONLY 4 million, as November will see the release of Super Mario 3D World, so I’d see that push sales abit. HOWEVER!!!!! Unless there is some massive lighting spark, I dont think it will be at 9 million by April, although Q1 2014, will see great releases, it will spark sales indeed. That’s were the magic would start I predict, Q1 2014 is quite important. So yeah, I think it’d be appropriate to put such a forecast, at the end of 2014. Truthteller It’s over. verymetal Read my other post and you can clearly see that I am not a fan of the Wii U, but you forgot about something when you said it is over for Wii U next year. Two games…Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros. Those two titles will breath life into the console. My argument is for right now! Those two games should have already been released. Nintenjoe82 your pessimism? Shaise Troll. WolfgangAmadeusMozart According to VG Chartz, the Wii U already sold over 200k worldwide within the first three weeks of October (between september 29 and october 19), so they already reached 4 million units. http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41567/Global/ Jon Turner That is indeed good news. WiiU is getting back on its feet. C4 “although Q1 2014, will see great releases” Uh there’s DKC because it got delayed into 2014. I don’t see other games confirmed for the first quarter…? However for the full 2014 there are some games on the horizon (Mario Kart, Bayonetta and so on) – but they look like Q2 or Q3 titles to me. Nintendo isn’t known for rushed releases 😉 Truthteller “In the earnings report, Nintendo says the Wii U hardware “still has a negative impact on Nintendo’s profits.” That means what I have been saying for the longest – the Wii U will be discontinued around March. Guest Referring to this quote here: ”On both next-gen consoles, 1080P/60 should be standard” You were talking about 1080p being the standard but you said you don’t care about the X1 and since you really like the PS4 and are addicted to the Wii U thats means you were talking about the Wii U and PS4 when you said they would be the 2 next-gen console with 1080/60fps standard. Wow so you really do like the Wii U since you hold in high regards with the PS4 as the 2 next-gen consoles. Thats great to hear! Mipaol80 How little you know your history, this is how it’s been for Nintendo for several generations now. They release a new home console, it gets crappy support initially from third party developers until Nintendo releases the epic first party titles that drive their console sales (nobody buys a Nintendo console for Grand Theft Auto), then third party developers increase their support as the consumer base increases and all the while Nintendo supports the negative profit period of the new home console with sales from whatever handheld is out at the moment. Ever wonder why Nintendo has never released a home console and a handheld at the same time? Now ya know why. Dodge Pribyl Im going to hold to this. If the Wii U is discontinued by March, I’ll admit I was wrong, and I’m just a fanboy and that my mind is full of propaganda. But if you’re wrong, well…. You’ll just have to see. Also, you can delete this comment. I’ve already screencapped it. Simon Stevens Nintendo and their all mighty giant hat full of rabbits will raise the sales again and again, wii u not selling, here’s a zelda bundle, sales are slumping, here’s animal crossing, Reggie…. it’s time, is your body ready?, good, get your ass on that plane and drop the bombs, FIRE EMBLEM, KIRBY, YOSHI, DK, DRAGON QUEST, LUIGIS MANSION, please understand, you don’t FUCK with me ^^ Randall Hellmer I’m still baffled by the 9 million estimate. Even if everything hadn’t completely fallen apart, 9 million would have been a very steep goal to reach. As it stands, the idea that they could achieve HALF of that is a bit overly optimistic. Josiah Parsons Woot Woot! Now just wait for Super Mario 3D World and Super Smash Bros! spigzone ‘Other’ (everywhere but US and Japan) Wii U sales for the last six months – April thru Sept. – was NEGATIVE 10,000 units. 10,000 MORE Wii Us WERE RETURNED THAN SOLD. Dead console walking. See last page near bottom. http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131030e.pdf Stoenk How is that supposed to work? spigzone How is what supposed to work? Stoenk 10.000 more Wii Us being returned than sold. Were they given away for free somewhere? Justagamer We believe in you Nintendo! SleepySkullhead Looks like a group went through this page and down-voted everyone. Can an admin fix that? Daniel Gonzalez I think downvoting should be scrapped anyways I’d say. I mean naturally, the more upvotes you get, the higher your comment goes at the top of the comment section. Less upvotes does the same job as downvoting, you end up at the bottom of the page. Plus it just seems to bother everyone on here, and can’t say I blame most. NkoSekirei i agree cause we got trolls abusing the system by making multi accounts and downvoting people for the hell of it kirbydonuts i bet u its them trolls MississaugaMaverick I honestly don’t care about the sales of the wii U, as long as they keep making the hits i will be happy. I cant wait for the new dk game new zelda, x, mario, smash and other surprises nintendo has in store for us, it’s going to be great. I am also going to get a ps4 for games like metal gear 5 and other 3rd party games plus whatever naughty dog comes out with. I don’t understand why people hate on systems they don’t have its like all these gamers are bitter these days and get so involved and worked up about everything thats going on in the industry, just relax and enjoy the games gaming is all about having fun. Gregg Excellent news. It’s a great machine, that pleases those who own it, and the aggressive pricing, bundles, and Fall software lineup, have the WiiU primed for growth. Deadpool U Does it seem there are more trolls lately? I know we already have Magnus and Non truthteller or are Downvote and his merry band of minions back? kirbydonuts That truthteller doesn’t want to realize that sony lost $2.2 billions the other day lol Mercurio2054 he says: “The article said that Nintendo said the Wii U was having a negative impact on profits (the only reason companies do business), so it is safe to assume that they will have to cut this negative off sooner than later, but of course not during the holidays! You know how much Nintendo likes to maintain profits and high stock value, so the Wii U will be gone.” so you say: Well Sony lost $2.2 billion in market value yesterday! and he say : That is not a concern for consumers. All will be made up and then some after the PS4 moves into the first place finish. SOOOO in this case he is being incongruent Ace J preach. Jon Magnus is what I would call a half troll…. but truthteller and his other account year (he has at least two, I suspected a 3rd). He trolls because he Hates Nintendo, he even admitted it. He hates Nintendo but loves reading the Nintendo News for some reason :S Daniel Gonzalez Yeah. Though, Magnus isn’t that bad. Can’t speak for truthteller and the rest. As for the downvotes, i think it’s just inevitable that it’ll get abused. To be fair, it’s a two way street on this site, so I think it really serves no purpose. In my opinion, I think Disqus should adopt a facebook system. I think likes or upvotes are just fine. Less upvotes just means you’ll end up at the bottom of the page as would downvotes would do anyways. That way, it can’t be abused any longer. Happens far more on Reddit. Mercurio2054 i think that some one have multiple accounts, as you can see, almost all the comments that have downvotes have like 5 to 6. statistics mean something. Daniel Gonzalez Perhaps. I wouldn’t be surprised. I think it’s a bit of both. Just proves my point that the downvoting system doesn’t work too well here or any site really. I really do think it should be disabled. Ace J preach NkoSekirei i agree magnus just like to joke around and stuff doesnt mean anything so hes ok but wen it comes to truthteller,springer85,and matt their the biggest trolls kirbydonuts Hes just a person with no life at all! probably a fat kid who sits at the computer all day with a bag of potato chips trolling! lol Mercurio2054 a fat kid? neverrrrrrrr!!!! He’s a bitter old man LevenThumps Glad to see the WiiU sales are picking up. With Super Mario 3D World coming out soon, and Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Donkey Kong coming out soon after, I think sales will continue to rise. Hipster Victor Awesome….The WiiU day is coming, even amongst the PS4/ONE. This will be a awesome season darkcreap Good news. Nevertheless, we should see how sales do in the following months. It is still to soon to see a clear steady trend. I honestly hope it catches its stride. Gamer Mania 3.9 Million is a good number 🙂 For some reason I don’t see the PS4 or Xbox One reaching that number until Watch_Dogs/The Crew is released Mercurio2054 they have to be in 4 millions, they sold 200k per week the last tow week sd 66k per week not 200k per week Mercurio2054 true The True Gamer I think infamous second son will get the ps4 to that point. Halo 5 for Xbox one probably will. companyoflosers and sales would be sooo much better if they stopped selling the original wii worldwide instead of just in japan. keep selling wii games, keep selling wii accessories, drop the original wii itself. the wi u is backwards compatible so theres really no reason the wii should still be in production. its only hurting sales and confusing consumers. LevenThumps I agree completely. Especially with all the confusion about the WiiU and the Wii being the same (which I partly blame to lack of advertisement on the WiiU). If only one home system is in stores, then it can’t be confused with another. ItzameyaToad They(Nintendo) stopped selling/stopped producing Wii’s in Japan and Europe and are in the process of dropping Wii support entirely. companyoflosers good, maybe then developers will stop claiming low sales as their bs excuse for not supporting. im looking at you EA! Yoshi5081 I remember this happening to the 3ds! 🙂 Nintendoplaystation And we get sale figures just before the christmas rush. Marius Valasinas Yet biggest games are on the way: Mario 3D world, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Super Smash Bros. Figures will go up and up NkoSekirei dont forget X and bayonetta 2 as well Wiiluigi A lot of good bundles here. I like all the bundles and price cuts etc. but early adopters are the ones losing here. Yes I am complaining yes I know there weren’t many games available. But uh we deserve something. Ambassador Program 2 would be nice. 😉 Cena’s Smirk go wii u go! Magnus Eriksson And yet you are the fanboy here. A fanboy with bad language. Nintengoth That’s good stuff, I do hope buy May they sell around 9 odd million units :). I cant wait for next years games, Mario Kart 8 is my number one! The True Gamer Is smash bros, late next year or early next year? LevenThumps Smash Bros. has no release date except for that it will be sometime in 2014. It could be in spring, or it could be in the fall. The True Gamer Spring would be great, but I don’t see it releasing until fall 2014. At least I’ll have a ps4 for those months……I’ll be buying smash on 3ds, because I just don’t want a Wii u, NkoSekirei thats why we should wait on the next direct to find out before we start jumping to conclusion wen it will come out spigzone There, there, everything’s going to be okay, mommy’s here now and she won’t let that bad man say any more mean things to her little cuddley wums. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 U still read bed times stories about child molesters? What are you five years old? spigzone Interesting projection. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 So is ur sister. spigzone A more interesting projection. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 Ain’t that the truth Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 what with the downvote? u butt hurt troll? farrellbr All they needed were some good games jjbredesen Nice to hear that the Wii U is selling 😀 from what i can tell it’s just like the 3DS sales. Everyone said 3DS is doomed, but then the price was cut and the games came. Suddenly its one of the best selling consoles of this period. The same is about to happen with the Wii U. The price was cut and now , the sales will raise even more with Mario and will explode when Smash Bros, MK8 and Zelda hit the market. The True Gamer I think the price still needs cut a little more. $249 should be a sweet spot for Nintendo. Keep in mind how small the flash drive memory is. jjbredesen True, but i dont think Nintendo could drop the price that much. It would cost them to much. When it comes to memory it is easy to expand so there is no need to include more. Mercurio2054 you say it, flash memory, i think you know how expensive they’re Sean 3.9 million consoles is a modest amount but 20 million hardware on 3.9 million consoles is redonk. that is an attachment rate of over five games per system on average Gabe Hoffman Thats good right? Sean to date the xbox 360 only has a 7.5 game attachment rate, at launch the ps3 had a 1.5 game attachment rate. so its quite high for a one year old console Justin McDonald Tell you haters the WII U is NEXT GEN!!!!! handsomeguy Only for Wii U fan boys its considered Next Gen Quicksilver88 Go play AC4 on ps360 vs. WiiU and you will see with proper attention WiiU can do quite a bit better than ps360……What people really don’t get is ps4/xb1 is not going to be that big a leap over ps360 (this has even been said by gaming executives) so WiiU is really about a1/2 step up which is still viable especially for Nintendo and other exclusive developments. Ubi is starting to show real skill with Rayman and AC4 looking so good and NFSMW, Dues EX, and Injustice show WiiU can do superior versions to current generation. Hopefully the unit sales improve before all 3rd party support colapses….I think given its improving library, exclusive Nintendo titles, and unique features WiiU bundle is a good value for $300…..you are going to pay double or more than that to get a ps4/xb1 rig this xmas. boynhisblobs Agreed, Xbox One and PS4 are about to have a really difficult time trying to explain why you need a new machine to play call of duty that’s available on the old ones. The True Gamer You don’t get an Xbox one and ps4 for cod. You get it for exclusives. Maybe Nintendo fanboys forgot what games are now that their dear Nintendo stopped making games for the last year. starwars360 Too bad Nintendo is still around forever!!!! Too bad Sony still around forever!!! Hahahahaahahahahahahahaha oh hahahahahahahaaha you whining about Wii U and PS Vita still around with Nintendo and Sony still around. Lmfao. Your crying babies. 🙂 I can see you are fully Xbox fan boy. Lol You need to respect to gamers who enjoy gaming and no matter which consoles and handheld or PC either. I can see you alway follow high horse power graphics all time. But graphics is not made by gaming alone stand. Gaming is made by many ways for gaming with games, gameplay, story, multiplayer, single-player, online, Wii U gamepad, Xbox Kinect, PS Move and thousand many more. Come on quit about graphics all time. Some of Wii U games out now got amazing graphics and look better then current generations. Anyway I owned Xbox 360, Wii U and PS3. I enjoyed all and loved them all. I will sooner own Xbox One and PS4. 🙂 You are not True Gamer. Sorry because you keep bashed on Nintendo console and Sony handheld because their systems got sales struggles. Well both systems will be better in near future. Wii U will have struggle free by next year. PS Vita well is difficulty to tell because PS Vita doesn’t got many games releases moment and very few while Wii U got lots. I am totally respect for everything about games and no matter if either struggle or not. Come on buddy quit being stupid and troll. You need to respect to other. You got already point in past but you kept same things over and over so this why people dislike you not because of Wii U fans but because of your comments all times. They all think you behave like child and teacher never teach you. Grow up and start act like adult and share with other people with nicely things. I understood you don’t like Wii U or PS Vita that is ok but you don’t need came here or other sites to bashed things up into comments to others. I don’t like Wii console in past but I loved some Wii games and I alway though Wii is gimmicky but Wii U not because of HD in, Miiverse is amazing gaming communication and some games support achievements via Miiverse when earn achievement and it is posted to Activity Feeds in Miiverse like CoD Black Ops II, Deus Ex: Human Revolution – Director’s Cut, Batman: Arkham Origins and more. I don’t like Kinect and PS Move either still and alway though both is gimmicky like Wii but I still not go on sites and bashing to others. It is unfair to other players who enjoy their time in site or their system that enjoyed on. I am laughing at you cos you not gamer. You are True Troll. Please come back when you behave like adult. Bye. 🙂 The True Gamer i didnt really reel like reading all of that. sorry. alls i can say is nintendo systems are notorious for lacking third party games, and thats why their the last system i buy of the generation. by the way, im buying a ps4 next gen, not xbox one any time soon handsomeguy Same as Nintendo is going to have hard time convincing people to buy the Wii U, when you can pay 100$ more, and get a PS4 that has bluray,500gb,better graphics,better online, and so on. InsaneZucchini That 500gb hard drive only allows for around 10 PS4 games, as their installs require upwards of 45gb. So, it’s irrelevant. Especially as the PS4 doesn’t allow the use of external hard drives where as the Wii U can, hard drives up to 2TB blowing the PS4’s memory storage away. Blu-ray is only important if you don’t already have a PS3 or Blu-ray player. Better Online is unknown actually. The Wii U’s online is actually pretty great. And free. Better graphics, eventually, probably, but not yet. Seeing as the Wii U can already do 1080p at 60fps, more announced than either of its competitors even, I’m sure it’ll be able to do just fine. oontz “That 500gb hard drive only allows for around 10 PS4 games, as their installs require upwards of 45gb. So, it’s irrelevant.” You’re looking at it backwards. It’s not irrelevant cause developers know that every ps4 systems has at least 500gb at their disposal for mandatory game installs to make games play and run smoother. Much better than reading from the disc. developers cannot guarantee that wiiu owners have bought and paid for an external hdd. They are only guaranteed whats included in the box. You ever wonder why GTAv (with an 8.5gb mandatory install) didn’t come to wiiu? Maybe think outside of the box. oontz Doesn’t seem that hard since the combined preorder numbers alone are already near the 3 million mark. Not to mention that both companies have increased their projected financials saying this generation will be their strongest console release ever. Yeah the only company having a hard time convincing the public to buy their machine is Nintendo. InsaneZucchini preorders don’t matter in the long run, what matters is whether or not they’re able to keep it going in the months that follow. Wii U also had great preorders, but it clearly failed to maintain strong sales. until we see how well they do through dec, jan, and feb, it’s all a lot of hot air, “counting their chickens before they hatch” oontz “Wii U also had great pre-orders” You’re joking right? Wiiu had around 500k + of pre-orders… Ps4 is already around 1.5million. Not to mention they have a massive line up of exclusive titles and multi-plat releases that the wiiu didn’t and still doesn’t have. As much as I love Nintendo there no comparison and they dropped the ball this generation. InsaneZucchini No, the Wii U had waiting lists of up to 500k. That doesn’t include the all the systems actually sold through preorders. Otherwise the Wii U wouldn’t be anywhere near 3.9 mil. Its sales started falling within two months or so. Not nearly enough time to sell 2-3 mil if they only moved 500k. oontz “No, the Wii U had waiting lists of up to 500k.” Yeah the more you know…. http://kotaku.com/5975869/how-gamestops-500000-wii-u-wait-list-number-became-320000-sales Maybe educate yourself before replying. InsaneZucchini First, the Wii U was selling out no matter what the numbers in the end were. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/17/wii-u-pre-orders-selling-out-across-us Second. Ironically that article serves to harm your argument more than help it. It further proves the point that preorders are irrelevant. People can lay claim on a system without ever following through on the purchase. Additionally that is from a single retailer and not even the largest of all retailers that could provide Wii Us. You should educate yourself: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/nov/19/wii-u-launch-us-problems “Last week, US news sites reported that major retailers such as BestBuy, Walmart and Gamestop were selling out of pre-order hardware.” http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57550920-235/here-we-go-again-expect-wii-u-shortages-to-last-months-analyst/ While their predictions about shortages for months may have been wrong, the system selling out so many preorders gave them some cause. http://wiiudaily.com/2012/12/nintendo-wii-u-launch-went-better-than-ps3-or-360/ Better than it’s competitors did in a weaker market than their launch = good. Additionally where are you getting this nearly 5 million between them number. My searches estimate 1.5 million for the PS4 and that the Xbox One is selling fewer. Which would amount around the same number the Wii U pushed before Christmas. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/10/21/xbox-one-vs-ps4-top-pre-ordered-next-gen-video-games/ * 725k PS4 in US alone, however US is also the largest market when it comes to console gaming.* http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/20/ps4-dated-for-november-launch-3-million-pre-ordered-so-far/ ** Over 1 million across 32 countries.** http://gamerant.com/playstation-4-ps4-pre-order-sales-stats/ *** “That million pre-orders that they talked about, which I understand now is up to 1.5 million, that’s a lot of consoles. A lot, but not 2.5 mil.*** http://gamerant.com/ps4-outsell-xbox-one-console-sales/ **** Xbox One selling less than PS4? Can’t make up the difference to 5 mil.**** Your 2.5 mil number is not about the PS4’s preorders, it’s about how many they expect to be shipped by years end. Just as they predicted Wii U would sell 3.5 mil by year’s end for its launch. It’s a useless number. http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/25/xbox-one-ps4-to-ship-25-to-3-million-in-2013 “During the fourth quarter, Xbox One and PlayStation 4 will each see in the neighborhood of 2.5 to 3 million units shipped,” That is not a pre-order related number. oontz cool story bro Guest Just gonna repost this part to make sure the point got across. “725k PS4 in US alone, however US is also the largest market when it comes to console gaming.* Note that the article you linked stated the Wii U sold 890k in the US alone at launch, which means better than the PS4 so far is expected to. That may change. But again. Phenomenal sales.” oontz I linked that article because you said “the Wii U had waiting lists of up to 500k” Which was referring to the gamespot waiting list of 500K which gamespot in the article says wasn’t correct. Mercurio2054 gOOOOD ONE The True Gamer Ps4 is $399, Wii u is $299. The hard drive alone in the ps4 is more than enough to justify $100, let alone the fact that you actually have a stable system that won’t potentially lose all third party support like Wii u Quicksilver88 Hey I think PS4 is a good deal but PS4 is $399 without a game…where as you can WiiU either with Zelda or with Mario/Lugi for $299…..also the PS4 is only a 500gb HD which you can get a 500GB USB to hang on your WiiU for $60. Also their is no more free online with PS4 so you will also have to buy a year of PS+ for $50 to play online. So now you are looking at $400+$60+50 to get a game and online with a PS4. So the WiiU is still a good value….not saying PS4 isn’t as well just to some people the different between say $300 and over $500 (or $600 for XB1) is a big difference. Meanwhile I can play AC4, Ghosts, Batman, Rayman on WiiU this year just like the other new machines, plus I can get exclusives like Pikman, Zelda, Mario (2 games), W101, Lego City, MH3U. I am not a homer as I own all systems and will get a PS4 in the spring…..just saying WiiU is a good value and the library and quality of games has improved a lot in the second half of the year….now if they can just keep the momentum….big if to be sure. oontz Sorry but ps+ is an amazing service. You are give tons of free retail games every month. For 49usd last year ps+ users received over 1000usd in free games. Nothing wrong with that. Quicksilver88 Not disagreeing, but where in the past it was ‘optional’ now for online play it will be required….still a way better value than XB Live and $ony will still let you use streaming services without paying extra which is a plus….WiiU will now be the only system allowing free online gameplay which might be a consideration for some gamers. In my mind both PS4 and WiiU are good values this holiday…..I wouldn’t have said that earlier in the year about WiiU, but the price drop, bundles, and greatly improved OS now makes it a nice machine for $300, likewise PS4 is a hell of a lot of hardware for $400 (even if it will be $500 with game and PSN+)….I mean it is an 8core, 8gb, 500gb, solid grafx chip console for a very reasonable cost…..certainly $ony is eating a lot of loss to put it out so cheap so I hope the strategy works and they trounce M$ this generation. oontz “WiiU will now be the only system allowing free online gameplay” Free in this day and age is usually never the best option or service. In the end you get what you pay for and Sony has made PS+ very worthy of the $49.99usd a year price tag. InsaneZucchini You mean the 500gb hard drive on the system that needs games to be installed, games like Killzone that require upwards of 45gb limiting you to around 10 games at a time. Yes. That sure is a worthwhile hard drive. The system that can not use external hard drives to add on to it. The Wii U can use external hard drives up to 2TB, and its games rarely take up half the memory of those for the PS4. So that internal memory difference between the two is irrelevant. (Note that I do have PS4 pre-ordered and already own Killzone since it was released before the system. However this memory argument is far from infallible.) Mercurio2054 and flash memory is expensive handsomeguy Of course it will be better, its has better hardware. I have a Wii U paid 350 for the deluxe. The X1 and PS4 is a big leap from the Xbox360 and PS3. It is about 8 times stronger. Quicksilver88 No Microsoft and $ony’s own executives said their systems will be about 4x more powerful than their current machines. Even though both systems have a lot more RAM both system are dedicating over 3GB of that memory to OS use. Microsoft previously said the ‘always on’ Kinnect will use 25% of the systems resources….look I am not saying they won’t be better (I also have WiiU and will buy PS4 next year) but I am going by what their own executives have said in the press which is they are concerned consumers are not going to be wowed by the leap in graphics this generation and seeing that the current gen machines have been viable for 7-8 years you can sort of see why. Essentially both these boxes are mid level gaming PCs using x86 processor technology and AMD grafx hardware. Nothing exotic at all about their architecture….makes it easier on developers as essentially now the PC/PS4/XB1 versions are all developed the same but unlike say PS2/PS3 which had hidden potential to tap these new boxes are actually sort of vanilla. I still think PS4 as configured is a heck of a lot of hardware for $400. NkoSekirei only retarded trolls like u are considered next gen of pansies Drugs This is actually a huge misconception and people being uninformed is one of the main reasons the Wii U isn’t selling as well as it could be. Almost everything inside of the Wii U is completely custom made so its very difficult to know exactly how powerful it is… But while it only has 3 cores and the PS4 has 8 each of Sony’s 8 cores is relatively weak in comparison. One of the Wii U’s core is about as strong as 2 from the PS4. This is probably the primary reason more recent testing has shown that rather than being a mere 1.5 times stronger than the PS3 and XB360 the Wii U is actually about 20% weaker than the PS4 and XB1… Which sounds bad I know but that would still make it a full 6 TIMES stronger than the PS3 and XB360. Developers are still using the methods that they know and are comfortable with to create games and these are methods that best suit the PS3 and XB360. This is why Wii U games don’t look much different from PS3 and XB360 games and WHY THE PS4 AND XB1 LAUNCH GAMES WONT EITHER… Its already been verified that the Wii U will have more next gen quality exclusives than the other two companies moving into the new year and for the bulk of 2014… All of the of the next consoles (including the Wii U) were created with GPGPU in mind rather the regular GPU style of the last generation.. When the Developers begin to make that shift the difference in power will become very clear. handsomeguy 20% weaker then the ps4? Ram? GPU? ? The Wii U is a little better then the ps3 and Xbox 360. The xbox1 and ps4 are way stronger then Wii U. The graphics will most likely end up being exactly like the 360 or ps3. The True Gamer The graphics for Wii u third party games are the same as 360 and ps3 now Drugs I just gave you the facts. the only confirmed information we have about the Wii U is the Ram size but test have proven it to be 20% weaker that XB1 and PS4… that is far stronger than “a little better then the ps3 and Xbox 360” and as proof there is evidence of it being able to produce Direct X 11 equivalent graphics in “Project Cars” using only one of its 3 cores… that alone would put it light years beyond PS3 and 360… Also it should be noted that one of the major reasons Watch Dogs was delayed was because they were having trouble making it look and and run any better than it does on the last gen consoles on the XB1 and PS4… while it has already been stated that it looks better on the Wii U … Ubisoft was planning to release it at 30fps and still debating whether or not they could even run it at upscaled 1080p on the Xb1 and PS4. oontz Are you visually impaired cause they difference between ps3 and ps4 is already noticeable with launch titles. Killzone on ps 4 destroys Killzone on ps3. No even close to the same visuals. Go compare the wiiu cod ghosts to ps3 and ps4, wiiu version looks the same as ps3 and the ps4 version actually looks next gen. Mercurio2054 YES THE SAME, you know why? infinity says they will use the old engine, to have time to customize the control and not the graphics. oontz Just because a game uses the same engine doesn’t mean it wont look a lot better on more powerful hardware. If that was the case then there would be no visual difference on pc games between minimum settings and ultra settings. Same game, same engine, scalable depending on hardware. Drugs Can you say the same for COD Ghost or any other third party game? Killzone is first party so Of Course Sony is going to put extra effort into it just like nintendo does with games its 1st party titles and exclusives like Pikmin 3 and WWHD… Which completely outclass any of the consoles third party offerings or anything you’ll find on the 360 or PS3 .. luckily though we have Indie developers (like the creators of project Cars and Candle) who are willing to push the envelope and really try to tap into the consoles power… They will probably the ones who will give us the best looking next gen titles… in the coming years oontz “exclusives like Pikmin 3 and WWHD… Which completely outclass any of the consoles third party offerings or anything you’ll find on the 360 or PS3” Ha ha, really. Anything on the 360 and ps3? Anything? Pikimn 3 and WWHD are amazing games but to say they outclass anything on 360 or ps3 is not only short sighted but very fanboyish. There are tons of amazing games that give Nintendo IPs a run for their money not only on other systems but also on their own. Drugs we’re speaking graphically right? please name a console game available today the looks better than Pikmin 3? If highlighting superior software makes you a fan boy then i guess that what i am in this case but you implied the same about the PS4 edition of Killzone… would that not make you a “fanboy” as well? oontz “please name a console game available today the looks better than Pikmin 3?” ummm okay…. Uncharted 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, The Last of Us, GTA V, the list goes on and on. Look pikmin 3 looks good but isn’t THE best looking game available today. Not even close. There are MANY better looking games. “but you implied the same about the PS4 edition of Killzone… would that not make you a “fanboy” as well” No I was giving clear evidence that your statement of… “This is why Wii U games don’t look much different from PS3 and XB360 games and WHY THE PS4 AND XB1 LAUNCH GAMES WONT EITHER.” Is completely false. Just by comparing Killzone on PS4 and PS3, there is a clear visual difference and upgrade in visual fidelity. A fanboy by definition is loyal to ne system. I own all systems and play games regardless of system. If its a great game I’ll play it. The True Gamer Its next gen, but it’s very, very, close to seventh gen. That’s why mostly everybody says next gen starts November 15th. It’s because Wii u is barely next gen, just like Wii was barely seventh gen. It’s power differences. Sean failed to mention that this fiscal quarter ran from July, August September… which means the price cut and zelda counted for aprox 10 days of the quarter (eshop zelda, not physical) X3Charlie They still need to cut Wii Production here in the US. That way retailer will run out, and there’ll be no excuse. All they’ll have to put up in Wii U’s unless they fill the space with Xboxs and PSs, I wouldn’t put it past them. LukeBlackburn WOW! i never knew having games sells the console lol Magnus Eriksson Why acting so tough? Is it because you never would have dared to talk like this in real life? Do you get an illusion of being cool? Well, rime to break that one. You are a nothing, and deep down you know it yourself. I know it, you know it. That holds for me. 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 ROFLMAO! U mad, cocky bastard! LOL-that’s too funny. what a tryhard. u think ur so special because ur on the side that thinks Nintendo is doomed? what r u a psychologist? U think trying to delve into my psyche and figure out what I’m thinking is gonna work? that’s only in the movies now dream on-ur a never was. grow the fuck up and quit condescending on those who know the truth cuz u don’t know me so fuck off pal. Come back to reality, asshole. I’m your master and ur my basic bitch who can’t handle the truth. Now wipe away your salty pussy tears and go fuck yourself, fail troll. thanks for proving my point. you know I’m right and you know it, that’s good enough for me. u really need lies to hold u?WOW! didn’t know you had penidectomy so early in life! go masterbate on your dildo you coward. your claims are unfounded as is your courage. I laugh at your ignorance and stupidity. keep it up and you may be the first foreigner to make it onto AFV because it’s fucking hilarious how ur so delusional and deranged about ur predisposition. it’s just sad to see ur potential thrown away over a heinous lie. tell me something else stupid canniving piece of shit cuz it will only prove how retarded you are. and retards David Gonzalez and guest vote, get a life, cuz u have none. it’s all bullshit that u try to erase by buying into gossip that doesn’t even line up with reality. P.S.-punctuation is your friend, sodomite. Goodbye. Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 downvote is all u could muster? ur weak! Magnus Eriksson LOL, like I would bother to read that long text from such an unintresting person. 😀 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 P.S. go buy a Swedish/English dictionary u fucking lobcock if ur that stupif that u can’t read and interpret that much English all at once. Ur a dying embarrassment to ur people. Fluke. Your money This is very encouraging information. This means that the Wii u isn’t done giving up (not that it will.) PS4,WIIU,XBOXONE The numbers are getting prettier and prettier crocodileman94 I was wondering where John has been. Zackary Bruley I just got myself a Wii U last week. Now, If I can only get away from all this homework… SomeFluffer64 Anybody else think there will be a Nintendo Direct this week? it’s just seemed that they’ve aired one at the start of each month… maybe we will FINALLY get GBA games on virtual console? Jon I doubt GBA games will come to the VC. It’s sad and annoys me but…. we have not seen one yet. SomeFluffer64 I think they still show a picture of a GBA on the official Wii U virtual console website… maybe they’ve just been holding the launch of the gba virtual console so that they could officially translate Mother 3 and release it as a launch title for the GBA virtual console? That’ll sell like hotcakes! Jelle Knibbe Last time I checked they had a net profit of ¥600 million (~$6 million). Why do I have to correct people every three months ahout what operating loss and net profit is? zOMGLOLROFLMAOz I went with my homeboy Nintendo, after shrugging off the gamecube and selling the Wii on CL because I got disinterested in the lack of 3rd party titles. Windwaker HD is amazing, but I am feeling the “Wii U has no game” phase- I’m only interested in Super Mario Wii U and Mario Kart 8. What’s after that? The lack of titles is disappointing, but not that big of a deal for me since I have a gaming computer. Not to come off as fanboyish, but the Wii U also only consumes around 33W when playing games. I’m sure the Xbone will use 5x more than that, AMD chips suck down power like there’s no tomorrow. Expect PS4 to use even more (6x-7x) because the GPU is twice as powerful. Nintendo, please focus on bringing 3rd party titles to this console! C4 “What’s after that?” 1st Party games: Donkey Kong Smash Bros Bayonetta 2 Yoshi X All I can think of currently. Unfortunately not much news about the latter 2 games, so I guess they aren’t safe for a 2014 release… I hope Mario Kart, Smash and Bayonetta are released in spring, but somehow I don’t expect it. Don’t know about 3rd Parties. Edit: There are some more upcoming titles mentioned below I think. eqew It annoys me that the Wii U and the controller looks so cheap with its glossy plastic 😛 Will eventually buy one though, when Mario Kart is coming! InterTreble +100% and “no games are on shelves”, as haters are always saying. It’s not true, but it doesn’t matter… I don’t dare to imagine what will happen when 3D World, Smash Bros, Kart 8 and a certain Zelda U are out. oontz “I don’t dare to imagine what will happen when 3D World, Smash Bros, Kart 8 and a certain Zelda U are out.” Ummmm, it’ll help sell systems? InterTreble +100% yes! 😉 Otherwise I couldn’t understand haters reasoning: “Nintendo is only for first party” –> so first party will sell, if not, tell me what I have to think… just that hater gonna hate? I think so… 😉 blaster man If Wii U can’t sell a lot of consoles it is sunk after this holiday season. Looks like I’ll be picking it up in the Best Buy dump bin for clearance products for $99. The Wii U is a horrible product but Iwata is an even worse manager, there’s a reason that no one says this stuff prior to making the decision because anyone with half a brain will wait 3 months and see if the product is discontinued before buying it. He needs to be fired. http://mynintendonews.com/2013/10/30/iwata-is-naturally-unhappy-with-q2-2014-results-but-claims-major-overhaul-isnt-necessary/ oontz “The Wii U is a horrible product but Iwata is an even worse manager,” I wouldn’t go as far to say it’s a horrible product. Although I completely agree with you about Iwata. He needs to go. Quicksilver88 Here was an encouraging sign……just got back from the dreaded Walmart to do the monthly household shopping trip and they had a very nice full case of WiiU titles having all new releases including Ac4, Dues EX, Sonic, Rayman, WiiUParty….pretty much everything available and nicely displayed (as many of you know this is not always the case at many retailers where WiiU is concerned). Then I look in their WiiU system’s display case and they were sold out….I asked the rep and she said yep the Zelda bundles went quick and they are waiting for the new Mario/Luigi and Skylanders bundles. That was really encouraging. The system that looked pathetic was Vita (sad as I own one) with about 10 games, nothing new other than Killzone and all the accessories were on clearance. I hope this means Nintendo’s promo reps are doing their job as generally that is what keeps the retailers in line…..Now both Best Buy and Walmart are giving WiiU a good showing and Nintendo must maintain that in the face of the launch onslaught that is coming with the other two systems this month. Michael Diaz Hey guys, if you want the game Destinty to be on wii u there is currently a petition for it going up at change.org….here is a link to it http://www.change.org/petitions/bungie-and-activision-release-the-upcoming-title-destiny-on-the-wii-u Rainbow Dashing Good News! Ferdinand5 The problem with the Wii U was that it’s opening line up of games was very slim. As their choice of games increases, you would think it’s sales will go up. Only time can tell though. Decker Shado It’s building a healthy library of games – and that’s what sells consoles in the end. A lot of people attribute it to one game, the legendary “system seller” – but if there’s not a good amount of OTHER games on the console, it’s very rare to find someone who will plug $300, $400 or $500 down for one game, no matter how “must have” it is. like2nap Hopefully it will jump even more during the holidays like2nap Some of those bundles are so good I almost want to buy another one….almost starwars360 Yeah The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD special edition bundle is good one or even Super Mario & Luigi Wii U bundle with New Super Mario Bros. U and New Super Luigi U. Both Wii U bundles is best. There more bundles – Wii U Party bundle, LEGO City Undercover bundle, Skylanders: Swap Force bundle, LEGO City Undercover and LEGO Batman 2 bundle and Just Dance bundle. So I recommend either Zelda or Mario & Luigi Wii U bundles. But yeah plenty of those during Christmas. 🙂 I got Wii U since launched last year. I loved Wii U. Here best of 10 Wii U games out now: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Nintendo) Deus Ex: Human Revolution – Director’s Cut (Square Enix) New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo) Pikmin 3 (Nintendo) Rayman Legends (Ubisoft) Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate (Capcom) Mass Effect 3: Special Edition (Electronic Arts) Call of Duty: Black Ops II (Activision) Trine 2: Director’s Cut (Frozenbyte) Skylanders: Swap Force (Activision) Also there some more amazing games for Wii U, lots of good and great Wii U games already released and of course some poor and medicore games already released as well. There plenty games. But I want to told that 10 best Wii U games and they all got most 90% and above review scores. This why I put those in. Here list of my favourite Wii U games, played all that I owned, and I owned since from launched throughout to now. So from best to bottom. Key: Games – Review scores – Publishers (hehehe) 1. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD – 98% – Nintendo 2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution – Director’s Cut – 95% – Square Enix 3. New Super Mario Bros. U – 93% – Nintendo 4. Rayman Legends – 95% – Ubisoft 5. Pikmin 3 – 90% – Nintendo 6. Mass Effect 3: Special Edition – 95% – Electronic Arts 7. Trine 2: Director’s Cut – 90% – Frozenbyte 8. Monster Hunter 3: Ultimate – 90% – Capcom 9. Skylanders: Swap Force – 90% – Activision 10. Batman: Arkham City – Armored Edition – 90% – Warner Bros. Games 11. ZombiU – 80% – Ubisoft 12. Batman: Arkham Origins – 85% – Warner Bros. Games 13. Skylanders: Giants – 84% – Activision 14. Scribblenauts Unlimited – 80% – Warner Bros. Games 15. New Super Luigi U – 75% – Nintendo 16. Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge – 78% – Tecmo Koei 17. The Wonderful 101 – 78% – Nintendo 18. LEGO City Undercover – 75% – Nintendo 19. Nintendo Land – 80% – Nintendo 20. Sonic: Lost World – 65% – Sega Those review scores I gave it but I list of my favourite games that I played all. Yes might confused because score not in order it just because of my favourite games that I enjoyed lots but I honest with reviewed scores I gave anyway. 🙂 That is I had owned and played all those 20 games during near one year of Wii U’s one year anniversary. 🙂 Next Wii U title I will getting is Super Mario 3D World!!!! Jacob D. Taylor Sony is playing this smart. They are on a platform that says “we make games, and that’s it”. I feel that is going to go well for them. People buy a console for games in the end and a high powered dedicated system has its’ audience, it has the best world view in my opinion, with a healthy balance of all genres and content levels. The 360’s success was one of the biggest enigma’s of all time, and I would love to hear some thoughts on why it succeeded. It was a sickly piece of crap, being underpowered than it’s main rival PS3, it had it’s original HDDVD plug in that failed, it had the one of the world’s all time worst design flaws that probably resulted in half of it’s sales in the end by people merely having to replace it and it had absolutely no content to offer than any other system. Besides Halo what reason is there to own an Xbox 360? Now that Halo is in a hospital bed with terminal prostate cancer I think we can all safely assume that MS’s flagship has been sunk. Now Microsoft doesn’t see this, they see sales figures that are probably akin to Star Wars Episode’s 1, 2 and 3 and think, well obiously the same ol’ shit’s goin to sell billions! So they’re on the American muscle car platform which is not the world’s best… because let’s be honest how well did Microsoft do outside of the UK and the U.S.? Has anyone else seen NPD’s latest reports? Showing Nintendo at a worldwide 55% market share? Do these things not even matter anymore? Sony will do well and ultimately the Wii U will as well. But my main point here is that everyone is expecting a parade with a marching band for the Xbox one and I ask why? Honestly who is going to buy it? I’ve seen 2 people so far interested. The rest are PS4 and Wii U… and there’s no question there either. It’s not a maybe or a we’ll see. It’s a solid this is how it’s going to be. I expect the WIi U to do well in the end. I actually expect it to fairly dang well! But the point of all of this is that people need to snap out of it and see, the problems Nintendo is having right now, are unanimous. They are NOT Nintendo exclusives, they are cross platform problems that Sony see’s and Microsoft doesn’t. Time will tell, yes, but I guarantee you the forecasts for tomorrow’s weather are not as they seem. Jacob D. Taylor Nintendo is going to have a pretty damn impressive line up come march April when these other systems start to get off the ground. Remember the 360 won at the end of it all due to it’s besting the curve before the competition. I think the Wii U is going to do the same. It shocks me that almost no one references the past in how things will turn out but … then again this is the internet… Mj78 Sorry, but wii u is just not going to be a rival to the new consoles. It is simply not good enough. Drugs What did the 360 win? to this day both Wii (the last gen winner) and PS3 Sales are several million units ahead of it. Michael Clanton 360 won the biggest money making market, america. Drugs No .. actually Sony and Microsoft’s gaming divisions both suffered losses… lol Nintendo makes more money than the other two companies in terms of both hardware AND software. Jacob D. Taylor Yes in recent years ps3 has surpassed it and the wii has always been the aales winner but there is definitely an air of … “victory” especially imthe forst years of it. Magnus Eriksson Another psychopath on this page. How interesting. 🙂 Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 So is your sister’s cave of mystery. I had lotta uncovering all her secrets, including the one where you paid a pimp to rape her and force her to sell her virginity before puberty. Now I have to kill you, Joker style. 🙂 Doctor_Jest Remember, don’t feed the trolls. Mj78 http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/11/03/nintendos-future-looks-bleak-in-light-of-wii-u-fai/ This article is worth a look. Daily finance laments the abysmal failure of the Wii u. Zuxs13 Actually this article isn’t worth the look. Besides restating Nintendo financial reports it offers only speculation. Despite Apple and Samsung being a “rising competition” they have failed to make any dent into handheld or console sales. Despite the Wii U not hitting Nintendo’s sales goals, it is still on par with the sales of most other consoles with in their first year of sales. So its only failure is in meeting the sales goals, otherwise it isn’t a failure until it’s life cycle is over and it can be analyzed properly. Mj78 Nintendo will dominate the handheld world for some time, but I do not see them remaining in home console market for much longer. Although they do still have time to turn things around, they are simply not doing enough to make it happen. Mario world, mario kart, donkey Kong freeze etc are all probably going to be great games, but ultimately, they will only appeal to nintendo fans and I just cannot see the Wii u lasting any longer than three years. Zuxs13 There is no evidence to suggest they wont be in the console market much longer? their last console sold 100 million and it reached 76 million in less time than it took the PS3 and 360 both to reach that mark. And you say those games will only appeal to Nintendo fans, well there are 10’s of millions of Nintendo fans out there so what is wrong with that? The last Mario Kart console title sold 30+ million! Not that this one will repeat that, but even a fraction of that is more than almost every “Big” title out there sells. And are you saying the Wii U will only last for 2 more years 3 total, or 3 more? Because 3 more would be not far off, since almost all Nintendo consoles are replaced in 4-6 years. And if that’s the case, while PSBOX fans are enjoying their 3 year old product the “Wii 3” will be coming out making them out dated. Mj78 The Wii 3….. how exciting. So I can look forward to mario kart fifty! Wii u is a marketing disaster. The news that in the USA, Nintendo are releasing wii mini for Xmas just shows yet again that they have become detached from gamers in general. I can see your point of view, I really can, but I cannot see wii u being anything other than car boot fodder come this time next year. jjbredesen I know this is of topic, but look at this screenshot from ALBW trailer. I found something that has not yet been commented as far as i know. There seems to be a 2nd person in the wallt o the left. Drugs The sad part is that if the Wii U launched today (or on the 15th/22nd) with what it has now it would completely crush the PS4/XB1 Launches… As much as I love them Nintendo did make some very very odd decisions this time around. Michael Clanton dont think so…games look kiddy, looks like a secondary console. it cant even beat current gen sales. failure Drugs If it released with the first party games that it has now sales would be way up and the 3rd party support would be up as well .. you can say what you want about the games but the fact of the matter is that Nintendo’s 1st party games sale circles around the competition… without 3rd party support PS4, PS3, XB1 and XB360 would be dead in the water.. Nintendo is the only company that has been able to consistently sustain itself without significant third party support… let it be known that it was the massive install base of the Wii that brought its 3rd party support NOT the other way around.. Over 80 of the top 200 best selling games of all time are Nintendo games… The top 15 are all Nintendo games save for number 4 (tetris even though it was published by nintendo While) Sony has less than 15 games in the rankings at all… GTA has consistently been the best selling PS game and COD has been the best selling game on the XB Releasing with a great Zelda Game and motion controls help a great deal to boost Wii sales and What Nintendo should have done was hold off on Sky Ward Sword for the Wii and rather give it a graphics boost and release it as a Wii U launch title with some added game pad functionality. Still with Pikmin, 101 in the mix on top of all of the other exclusives available (and on the horizon) under their belt now… WWHD would have been Zelda enough to counter anything the other two consoles are offering especially since a lot of their key titles have been on a Delay spree AND the two consoles and their games are all practically clones of one another. Not to mention the huge difference in price Wii U is just a much better option at the moment. Adrian Collins A thumbs down on a Fact? Haters can’t deal *sips tea* leo Nintendo needs for 2nd partys, more 3 rd party support too and advertise the damn console Nathan Verbois I’m all for healthy and polite debate, but I do question the intent behind users who comment on this site, who have a questionable interest in the Wii U and its sales trajectory and seem more intent on promoting the other two next-gen consoles. Hey, I can’t wait for the PS4 (and to a much lesser extent the Xbox One), but this site is devoted to the Wii U and there are plenty of sites that center around its competitors and would probably be a more enjoyable place for you to discuss their pros and cons. That being said, just because someone is on this site who thinks Nintendo got it horribly wrong with the Wii U and thinks they’re on their way out, doesn’t give you carte blanche to resort to excessively vulgar and insulting remarks about their character, their family, etc. Let’s keep this topic civil and inviting, if not fun! William Cole The Wii U will be fine. I don’t know why people get so worked up over it. It is a console with great potential and keep in mind that not a single Nintendo staple has hit the shelves (By staple I mean since 64, of which are 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash Bros.). Not to mention DK, Kirby, and other series that I haven’t got the time to mention. Haters will hate Wii U and that’s okay, don’t buy it. But if you like it, be prepared for the first HD generation of Nintendo games. A new world.