Media Create sales figures for this week have finally been released, showing that the Wii U has finally reached the 1 million mark for sales in Japan. For comparison, the Wii U reached this number in only 33 weeks, while the PlayStation 3 took 38 weeks to achieve this sales figure when it was released. Even though the PlayStation 3 launched with a high price point, the Wii U doesn’t seem to be faring as bad in Japan as it is in the rest of the world, especially Europe. [via NeoGAF] local_offer Japanese sales Nintendo wii u stars Further Reading Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties, says Stardock CEO Earthlock backers will get Switch version if it ever happens Zelda: Breath of the Wild Deluxe guide for $48 on Amazon Nintendo shares up 20% since Switch launch Switch sales haven't slowed down in Japan What's your dumbest death in Breath of the Wild? gamedealers not bad im pretty sure once super smash bros come out hardware sales will sky rocket across the world I believe with the wii U CEObrainz I’m pretty sure haters are going to find a way to make this negative. Tecpedz94 Who cares what they think anyway. Let them talk let them spam just ignore them thats all, all that matters is what you think and what you do which i hope are good things. I kind hate the internet for this reason. People act all tough and talk big because behind a screen no physical damage will happen to them unless their monitor would somehow fall flat on their face 😀 We constantly read comments saying how this product for instance iPhone or ps3 is better than xbox or android. Like serious -_- How childish are you saying that the product you bought is better, people have their own taste nevertheless you are not the one that made that specific product so stop defending it. They argue over an object seriously… If you must purchase something that you like do so but dont go around starting arguments about why you think your choice is better. If we like nintendo products great im glad i can share my like for something on this website but i wont go on Microsoft websites and start saying your product sucks. I dont believe it does but i wont do that either people have to much time on their hands.. There i let it all out haha :p CEObrainz I do like debates though, if they can bring about reasonable evidence and stress that their opinions are in fact their own opinions, then I would have no problem with “negative” comments. shad0w-7 Hey CEObrainz. Just a comment. I cannot debate something that you (or anybody) like or dislike. It is personal, and is a product of what shaped your view of the world. I could never expect you to change that just to conform with my likes or dislikes. The Christians and Muslims tried that during the Crusades when it came to religion. It was a dark time. Sorry for the religious reference, but it is highly effective. shad0w-7 Where I was going with that is that the comments are 99% a trolling exercise. There is never really a discussion. It breaks down into whether you are for or against Nintendo. i.e do you like or dislike Nintendo. Zombie Boy Most of the first comments on topics are relevant to the topic itself, whether they are people saying that they are excited for a particular game, congratulating Nintendo on their successes, or whatever. More often than not, the conversations don’t degenerate into a trolling exercise until those trolls start pitching in and we feel that we have to defend our choices. Just saying. Magnus Eriksson I bet Nintendo will grow to unprecedented heights now. This is just the beginning. FaTih oh no.. CEObrainz Your opinion is your opinion, you may find that changing in a years time or perhaps not. I say it’s never over till it’s officially over. Whether it will benefit gamin however is another thing, but that’s more to do with people’s different tastes. Edit: lol….I see what you did there…. The Clockwork Being I am no hater but I can give my best Ignoranceiswhatsup impressions. here goes: THats just Japan now. Thats Nintendo’s playground. Nintendo has lost focus on gaming since the NES days. Only Japanese buy the Wii U. The Wii U is going to fail since it doesn’t have great third party support like the glorious EA titles. I think it is time to pull the plug on the Wii U it. NIntendo should just re-release the NES since that is NIntendo’s most successful console of all times. To support my ignorance we can clearly see that the Vita is outselling the 3DS dont believe me? Look at the number of world wide market last week. Even the 360 is outselling the Wii U worldwide 360-10000000000000X(2) PS VIta-1000000(100000000000) 3DS LL-3 000(2) 3DS-89(90) Still dont believe me well dont Nintendo will eventual fail this console gen. This is obviously Nintendo’s second console after the Wii. #NIntendowillfail2013SODONTBUYAWIIU So guys how was that? CEObrainz I wonder who down-voted? The Clockwork Being Maybe people though I was serious? And that guy Truthteller A.K.A Ignoranceiswhatsup JB Very close. You forgot the use the word “propaganda”… The Clockwork Being Oh yeah he always said that. Propaganda this propaganda that, he started thinking we were some sort of Nintendo conspiracy or something. Laud You’re forgetting when he says, “Overclocked Wii that will fail like the gamecube.” or “Nintendo makes games for little kids” The Clockwork Being oh yeah I should also add that the Wii U is just a repackaged SNES sd I would love a repackaged snes. All new super snes. The SUPER super nintendo entertainment system. Now that would sell. The Clockwork Being Watch the next Nintendo System will be the SSNES Mochlum You forgot “Everyone here is paid” 😉 The Clockwork Being Dammit I thought about it but forgot. Guest I can’t believe people agree with you because clearly you are stupid. . Believe what you believe go check system sales about 3DS then come say that it is Japan and Nintendo playground. 3DS is top selling and you are basically dumb. Why talk stupidly and act cocky starting to sound cool with your lies and deceit. Bro just go check and shut the stupid claims. http://www.vgchartz.com/ Have a nice day and clearly I don’t what world you live in. Wii U daily surrounded by trolls just turn on out to be IGN after all. We don’t want another IGN. You want a place of trolls go there and sit with your buddies all day. Lil J Moore He’s joking. Steven_Segal He was imitating one of the users here. Not serious! The Clockwork Being Hey Guest you are probably new here. This is a joke. I am a really big Nintendo fan myself. The point of my joke was to imitate a troll that got recently banned from Wii U daily. His name was Knowledgeiswhatsup but he didn’t have any Knowledge at all. He was actually Ignoranceiswhatsup.I know the 3DS is topping the sells in Japan. I am just joking. Have a nice day and sorry for the misunderstanding. Steven_Segal LOL, I feel really bad for him because he was so embarrassed that he closed the account LOL The Clockwork Being oh you mean he wasn’t just a guest, he had name? Steven_Segal Yup! Tim van Broekhoven Wait… Did I miss something? HE IS BANNED? WoW. just WoW. Zombie Boy He’s banned, but keeps popping up with new accounts and new names (TruthTeller is the same guy, for instance). That just shows how pathetic he really is… Tim van Broekhoven WoW, That’s sick. I wonder how he is in real life… Wait, maybe he doesn’t have a real life and is the only thing he does placing dumb comments on Wiiudaily. Or he is a robot XD Zombie Boy In real life, he’s very lonely, I’d guess. Arthur Jarret What does World of Warcraft have to do with his ban? The Clockwork Being LOL Tim van Broekhoven Zucht -.- The Clockwork Being Yep banned but still here in different names. ican1992 lol read it again and you will see he was mocking a troll not being one. Steven_Segal You know… Billy_Perry Well, as good as it is that Nintendo has sold 1 million units, that doesn’t actually mean anything for their current performance in Japan, which is what matters. The Wii U could have had 999,999 sales last year, and 1 this year (obviously it hadn’t), and this headline, stat would still apply. The statistic in itself doesn’t mean anything. Zombie Boy When you add it to the knowledge that the Wii U has only been available for 8 months, and that last week it sold over 22,000 units in Japan alone (making it the 2nd best selling console in Japan that week after the 3DS), it does mean something. At the very least it shows us that Nintendo’s first party games (Pikmin 3, in this case) sell consoles, and when more of those games arrive, the Wii U will become more successful, which is exactly what we’ve been saying all along. One million units – in one country alone – is a good start. Matteo Fossati Eurogamer Italy just wrote: ‘Finally WiiU reaches 1 million sales’ (omitting ‘in Japan’). Agent721 I could see it doubling this by the end of the year, given the releases due to come out. If the rest of the releases reach the quality that Pikmin appears to be, it can only get better. And I noticed your didnt say how long it took for the 360 to reach 1 million, which you should have listed, just for laughs! Zombie Boy Let’s make this clear: Both Nintendo and Sony are Japanese companies, and in their home country, the Wii U sold better than the PS3. And with few first party titles too, so when these games start coming out, the sales are sure to rocket even higher! I’ll be interested to see how the trolls find a negative in this… greengecko007 You can argue that the Wii U launch titles were better than the PS3, but you can also argue that the Wii U launch titles weren’t as good as the Wii, which launched with a completely new 3D Zelda game and several titles that showed off the Wii’s potential like Wii Sports and Wii Play. It’s for this reason that some people like me found the Wii U launch to be disappointing. Zombie Boy But comparing the Wii U launch to the Wii launch would be like comparing the PS3 launch to the PS2 launch, surely? greengecko007 Which is the point. Shouldn’t a company improve with each iteration? The Wii U launch was a downgrade, not an upgrade. Just like the PS3 launch was worse than the PS2 launch. Zombie Boy That would be the plan, but unfortunately, that’s not how it works in reality. For example, I think a lot of people will continue playing their current consoles (instead of upgrading to next-gen when the PS4 and XBox Done are released) for a while, due to the recession and other factors. The only thing Nintendo did wrong, which everyone will agree on – including Nintendo themselves – was the games in the launch window. But those games are finally starting to come, so while the launch wasn’t the best, like with the 3DS, things are turning around. This very topic is evidence of that. greengecko007 You’re right, the good games are coming. But it’s a shame that it has taken so long. Keep in mind that some of the negativity you still see about the Wii U is from people like me who expect more from Nintendo, and hold them to higher standards than Sony or Microsoft. Everyone here loves to say the Wii U launch was better than the PS3 launch. My point is that the comparison isn’t saying much. Comparing the Wii launch to the Wii U launch shows how Nintendo dropped the ball. But they are taking the right steps to get the Wii U back on track. Zombie Boy At the end of the day, EVERYBODY would like to see their consoles do better, no matter which company makes it. For example, PS and XBox owners want Nintendo’s games on their consoles, and vice versa. Our main gripe is the lack of games at the moment, but like we agree, those games are coming. Merrfn It sometimes saddens me when I go look at a YouTube video about a console. Trolls for days. And then you have the fanboys arguing and enforcing their opinions down everyones throat. If you just type one of the 3 following, I bought a Wii U, PS4 or xBONE everyone has a freak out, and they start telling you to sell it and buy their favourite console. It is so pathetic seeing people fight over 3 pieces of plastic. Then you have the “PC master race” people talking about how consoles are irrelevant due to the CPU’s and GPU’s on their gaming PC. I must say though that gaming PC’s are amazing. In the end the initial cost of a gaming PC is usually more expensive than that of a console, games are so cheap and you barely ever have to upgrade it. So it usually works out around the same. Steam summer sale is daylight robbery. Though I love my gaming PC their is always something that doesn’t feel right. I don’t know why but their is just something about plonking on the couch, picking up a controller and playing on a T.V. Wii U and PC for me this gen. Zombie Boy I have the same set-up, gaming PC and Wii U. I built my PC from scratch, and it worked out a lot cheaper than the PS4 / XBox One price points. Wherever you look on the internet, there will be trolls (and not just for gaming). The only time I read comments on a YouTube game video, though, is when I’m feeling masochistic lol! I think it’s a shame, though, that you can’t come to dedicated sites like this one and take a break from the trolls. It would be nice to get excited about something and not have to defend it. But unfortunately, there’s a lot of pathetic people in the world that have nothing better in their lives to do. Merrfn The life of a 12 year old. 1. Troll on the internet. 2. Have nerdgasm’s when the next CoD is announced. 3. Shout at their Mom to buy him something. 4. See a girl on XBOX Live and tell her to make a sandwich. Steven_Segal 5. Talk $#!T on XBOX Live. 6. Talking how COD is better than Battlefield. 7. Saying that Nintendo is for kids. 8. Eating chips and drinking Mountain Dew during long hours of playing multiplayer. 9. Never ever plays Single player. 10. Saying that Sony sucks. Merrfn 11. Saying the word “nigga” repeatedly to make a point. 12. Disrespecting their mothers. 13. Watch some disturbing porn. 14. Make “your mom” jokes 15. Have voice cracks A day in the life of my mind. 1. Weep for humanities future. 2. Hope that their is going to be a cure for modern 12 year old disease. I think the cure may be puberty… Zombie Boy What’s wrong with watching disturbing porn? (joke) Clel Ehhh! When I was 12 years old I didn’t do that! Even if I was on the Internet at the time, I was still polite 😀 Merrfn Same. I am just talking about the general 12 year old you will run into on XBL. sd The only issue with a gaming pc is you miss out on a lot of good games. Plus for the same price you can get all 3 consoles. Merrfn Depends if you go over the top on specs. PC misses out on games and gets lots of games. There are alot of amazing indie games that only get released on PC. With a PC and a console you get the best of both worlds. And what kind of PC were you trying to make that costs $1350? USD that is. That is crazy expensive. PC’s can be affordable just build your own. sd I live in a different country with different pricing. But I probably could build a gaming pc the first time that costs a bit less. But over the life of the console vs the life of a gaming pc the three consoles are cheaper. I found that every time I built a gaming PC it needed updating after about 3 years. So the upgrade would make it more expensive over the life of pc vs consoles. Although obviously gaming pc in 5 years vs consoles, well I dont need to say any more. If they ever get off the ground with the cloud it could make consoles vs pc interesting. But thats specualtion and what ifs at the moment. Zombie Boy You need to remember that console companies often release add-ons as time goes by, such as new controllers (kinect, move), etc. Once your PC is built (I paid just over £250 to put mine together from scratch, not including the monitor etc, which I already owned), then it’ll keep you going throughout the next gen. And of course you’ll need to update it at some point, but those updates won’t cost any more than those new console add-ons that I mentioned. As long as you start off with a machine that keeps up with the consoles of the moment hardware-wise, then you should be fine. sd The WiiU launch was great. It was the months that followed I had a problem with. The console is amazing but really from about February there was nothing for me to play until resident evil revelations in may. I tried MHU and legocity, but not my games. So it has been pretty poor, but the first month was great. Pikmin Saturday, W101 next month. Its getting better finally. Next year also looks great for games. fireheartis1 That is true man Nintendo dropped the ball with the Wii U launch. They should have never believe that the name Wii and the 3rd party support would sell the Wii U more than it did. If Nintendo had these 1st party games ready and actually advertised like they did with the Wii it would have sold way better. Nintendo dropped the ball, but at least they realized it and are trying to get back on track with it. Matteo Fossati Wii’s circumstance wouldn’t be so easy to reproduce. fireheartis1 The funny thing is how many people actually believe Sony is an American company lol. I just don’t get why so many people think Sony is American. Maybe some people who are 17-21 didn’t pay attention in school? Every one at my job who is 18-21 thinks Sony is an American company. I can tell them to go look it up all day, and they’ll argue that they don’t have to because they know more about gaming than I do lol. Funny because I’ve been gaming since I was 5 and now I’m 32, so that’s 28 years of gaming and they think they know more than I do. What a bunch of goof balls. Heck one even thinks Mario started with the N64, so I guess he would believe Sony is an American company. What a freaking dork. 🙂 Zombie Boy Unfortunately, when it comes to gaming, a lot of people state their opinion as a fact, and so they MUST be right, whatever the evidence suggests… A lot of people believe that the NES and the Sega Master System were the first home consoles, but I remember playing my Binatone TV Master (which was my first gaming experience, btw), which was released in 1976. A lot of people believe Super Mario Bros was the first in the series, but Mario Bros came out first (and was multi-platform too, as I played it on my Spectrum 48k). Not many people know that the Playstation started life as an add-on for the snes, and Sony also made the ‘Mega CD’ add-on for the Sega Genesis. And like you say, a lot of people believe Sony is an American company (yet that only seems to have happened since the Playstation, so I guess we can blame Sony fanboys for that one, probably trying to defend their company’s console sales in Japan). But yeah, it’s unfortunate that a lot of people today spout rubbish and are convinced that they genuinely know everything about gaming. The problem is that other people read it and, not knowing that it’s rubbish, go on to spread it as fact. This is why trolls are so damaging to the games industry and it’s heritage (and yet they don’t seem to realise it). Luffy With all the major games coming before the end of the year, it probably will start to grow much faster from now on! ^_^ Magnus Eriksson Iwata is a great guy. Happy to see that he manage to shift Nintendo’s misfortunes in Japan. Congratulations Nintendo! Magnus Eriksson Had to write this. Ill go on vacation for a week and will be unable to come here for a while. You wont see me here for over a week… 🙂 Zombie Boy Lol. I kinda saw the sarcasm there… Daniel Gonzalez Most of them are. I think people take them too literal on this site. Nintedward Narrow minded statement. Xbox is a piece of shit compared to Nintendo. All they really are is a weak ass PC with good third party support. Their first party offerings stink of shit except for Halo and Forza (woopty doo). People buy them for shit like CoD and Fifa, let’s not kid ourselves. Nintendo are the biggest and best ACTUAL video game company on the planet. And they shall remain that way. Magnus Eriksson I like Nintendo because I always had one. 🙂 Nintedward Comments like this pretty much highlight the desperate troll within. Stop and stop now. Magnus Eriksson The cell shading on WW looks awesome. This is true next-gen. Cant almost wait any longer… Yousif Alromaithi Why don’t hate you bro but you say to people that Wii U sucks makes people really believe that it really sucks. What eddie your friend is trying to say that we kind of disagree with your statements. Critics bash Nintendo and a system owner does the same means that Nintendo is not a system to begin with. Clearly from my point of view Wii U daily users wish that trolls never exists and so do I. During the golden age of video games in the time of Sega, Super Nintendo, Famicom and Atari trolls never existed much like what it is now. Magnus Eriksson Wii U does not suck, ok? 🙂 Yousif Alromaithi You are right. But you just make it that way. Luffy this just shows that you have no idea what a shader is… Magnus Eriksson I dont care. I love the game and Zelda is my favourite. I like the shading style, on both the new and the classic. I ll get it day one. 🙂 Luffy ……… go educate yourself on what a shader is. Gamecube doesn’t have less shaders then PS4. Yes, PS4 can produce higher quality shaders then Gamecube, but not more. The quantity of shaders is totally irrelevant. Anyway, before you start trolling, at least know what you’re talking about. Nintedward When EA 100% backtracked and said ”’they can put FB3 on Wiiu if the installed base is there”…. Wiiu can run ANY engine on the market as long as its scaled and optimized to the right level. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a numskull. Magnus Eriksson I know my friend. Im just joking a bit. Ok? 🙂 CharmanderRulz Have you even seen a Wii U dev kit? It’s CPU is mainly built to run shader commands to the GPGPU! It’s parallel processing runs on the in order processor’s (being in order isn’t as simple but it’s faster) pipelines that can make extremely good use of it’s shaders. Put that with how color modeling can be done in any common format (including linear 255,255,255 styles) and you got yourself some darn useful shaders. Daniel Gonzalez True, but that’s something Nintendo lacks. Third party, which Microsoft and Sony nailed perfectly. While you may call them shit, they are successful. I’ll agree that Microsoft’s exclusives suck, but Sony’s is awesome and has new IP every new generation. Calling Nintendo the best actual video game company is a bold statement and is questionable, but you’re entitled to your opinion on it. Nintendo is a great company, but even the greats make the worst mistakes as well. It’s human nature. Nintendo has made their fair share of poor choices. Will Nintendo remain one of the bests? Perhaps, but that all depends on who is running the company in the future. Don’t get ahead of yourself. Things like that can bite ya on the ass later on. As much as I love Nintendo, I would never call them the best of the best, because history has shown that it’s debatable. I don’t agree that the Wii U is a toy. It is very much a console, but I do agree that it lacks third party and Nintendo needs to do a better job resolving that problem. bizzy gie Nintendo are the best first party developers to date. While that’s an opinion, I find it very difficult to argue. Daniel Gonzalez To each their own. I never make statement like that, because it’s all based on opinion, which was the point of my post. Antar Rodríguez ok ill say this by pure facts, in your original replay you said that to call nintendo the best is debatable cause history has shown that, and to that ill say this: nintendo wasnt the best in previous and next generation (wii, wiiu) but as far as i know it was the best in all the other generations selling as twice as sony xbox wasnt even in the competition at that time, and when xbox(first one) went out the fight was between nintendo and sony so u cannot say it hasnt been the best of the best taking out sony, sega (when they developed consoles) and xbox first gen Daniel Gonzalez The best is not shown who can sell the most. It’s about the quality. Nintendo failed to get third party for the past few generations. That’s a bigger impact. While Nintendo games themselves are no doubt one of the greatest games you’ll play, but that doesn’t make them the clear winners. Sony killed the past two generations, so their success can’t be denied. Nintendo did well last gen, but they failed in one important aspect which was third party. It’s nice that they have plenty of quality 1st party, but not all gamers will want that, people like myself also want to see 3rd party too. Merrfn Right now, or well ever since launch all of the 3rd party titles have been half-assed ports, of 2 year old games. The developers are testing the Wii U’s waters with horrible games. Why would anybody buy a DOWNGRADED version of Sniper Elite V2 full price when on steam it is $8 including DLC? From E3 it looks like Nintendo is getting more support but it might not be adequate. I like you because you don’t “troll” or be a fanboy. From what I see from most of your posts, you like Nintendo and SONY. You talk about what they both have on each other. It is just a shame that this site is infested with oversensitive Nintendo fanboys. As soon as you say something negative you are deemed a “troll”. Say something they don’t like “troll”. Such a stupid label. Daniel Gonzalez A lot of people on this site don’t understand or can’t distinguish what a true troll is. I try to stay fair on both ends, which I feel I do very well at. Just like Nintendo fanboys, Sony and Microsoft have them too, and they’re all equally bad. I agree, that most ports of third party games on the Wii U are horrible. Also, those games have been on the market for over a year and obviously they’re not going to sell the same amount as before. So, yes, throwing out ports of games on the Wii U was a poor way to test the waters. However, it’s up to Nintendo now to depend on their first party to sell their system. Once it’s back on it’s feet with the Wii U, I’m sure 3rd parties will be lured back and want to cash in on the success. Of course, there are some companies that just downright hate the Wii U, and that’s their loss. Merrfn The companies that hate the Wii U will probably change their, tune if/when the Wii U turns into a development gold mine. Then they will be going on about how amazing and fantastic it is. How they love it and it is a generation ahead of it’s time. Money changes opinions. Not bribery but the chance your game could make you a profit. It is good to keep an open mind about companies. They couldn’t care less about you just your wallet. If anybody on this site died in a car crash none of the big 3 would give a shit. Fanboys give such a personal bond towards a company. They act as if when you say something negative about the company, you just said that their sister was an ugly slut. I don’t understand why people get so caught up in the console wars. I am only 16 and I can’t see any logic in it. Am I too stupid or too wise? People defending and attacking multi-millionaire corporate businesses. I understand “debating” and “comparing” all 3 of the main consoles. But the console wars, or should I say the Fanboy wars are just childish and show a lack of maturity. Daniel Gonzalez Your age has nothing to do with your intelligence. If anything, you have your head on straight than most your age or even some immature adults for that matter. Console wars are dumb and plain idiotic, but that’s human nature, and we all succumb to stupidity at some point or another. I don’t believe in bonding with any company as none of them truly give a crap about you, more so your money. It’s not to say that it’s wrong for them to want money, because that’s business, and that’s the reality of most of them. There are a few companies that care about their consumers, but very few have that business ethic. You’re entitled to criticize a company that you feel is doing more wrong than right or when they make mistakes. People will attack you which would be the crazy fanboys, but best to ignore most when all they do is insult, or can just be clever and do the opposite of what they want you to do. Yousif Alromaithi I agree with your statements. Reason is that people’s trust now on Nintendo has wavered badly so they no longer see the truth. Problem is due to the fact that Nintendo has placed trust on third party developers instead of their own. Mr Iwata stated back on 2011 and 2012 that Wii U a system whose primarily focus is on third party developers. Nintendo brought those games on their system much like what the PS3 and Xbox 360 has now. Fans had never bought the third party games since many prefer playing it on PS3 or the Xbox for that matter. Nintendo failed to garner third party games. Nintendo’s pride has led them to fail to deliver audience on the Wii U. If I was Mr Iwata I would never place trust on third party developers. I would launch Wii U with Zelda, 3D Mario instead of 2D, Wii U Sports, Nintendo Land and ZombiU. That way the Wii U success would be similar to the Wii. Daniel Gonzalez I agree, you can’t depend on third party nor can you put your full trust in them. You need 1st and 3rd to be successful, with a touch of 2nd party of course, that never hurts. I’m still skeptical on Nintendo catering to third parties, but I still have some hope that they can. If they have good holiday sales coming up, they can at least reel in some good third parties back and hope that they’ll deliver some quality games and help raise sales. Antar Rodríguez my base was who sold more, yours is quality but i rather find that not objective since quality is based on the opionions and preference of each indivudual player so i think its better to care more about numbers here than just what each player considers as a quality game or console, as far as im aware there have been 5or 6game console generations and nintendo was the best in 4 of them, sony only on 2 so as far as i know nintendo has been the best Daniel Gonzalez Numbers only overshadow quality. Call of Duty is a good example of that. It’s true in half the cases, and the other half not. Which in other words, makes sales not completely unreliable. It’s a good point, but it doesn’t hold true, though. FaTih trust me if people wouldn’t say ” Nintendo is for kids” it was sucessful as sony bizzy gie Nintendo is more successful than Sony. Daniel Gonzalez Mmmmm….that can be debated. It also depends in what terms, too. Each of them has their own business practices. bizzy gie Nintendo makes more money than Sony’s gaming division. Daniel Gonzalez Even so, that doesn’t make them more successful, that just makes them careful with their money. They certainly aren’t the most successful in the console market today. Besides, Sony is more successful overall than Nintendo. I don’t they’re worried if they’re not making as much as Nintendo compared to their gaming division. Plus, I think they make more with 3rd party sales added into the mix. Nintendo’s is very small in comparison. Not to discredit Nintendo, but they could learn to branch out more with new IP. I know they have some coming, but we’ll see how they fair. bizzy gie No. No. No. Nintendo MAKES more money than Sony’s gaming division not saves. You can’t compare a camera, tv, PC, DVR, blu-ray, movie, music, etc. company to a dedicated gaming one. You can only compare the gaming division. Daniel Gonzalez I’ll quote you. “Nintendo is more successful than Sony.” You can’t say Nintendo is more successful than Sony without talking about Sony as a complete company now can’t you? So yes, it can be compared. I’m just correcting your previous statement. Besides, like I said, add in 3rd party sales for Sony and they win hands down. If you want to compare 1st parties, I’ll give you that one. Also note, that they both target different demographics, so of course Nintendo’s sales are higher since there’s more casual gamers than there are hardcore. Sales don’t determine who has more success, because the definition varies in each others perspective. They both had success, but that doesn’t make Nintendo a better company than Sony or vice versa. bizzy gie Clearly, when Sony is brought up on a gaming website in response to “trust me if people wouldn’t say “Nintendo is for kids” it was sucessful as sony”, means I’m talking about their gaming division. Besides you, what idiot thinks of their cameras or TVs in this sense? I’m obviously discussing their gaming branch in which Nintendo produces more revenue. The 3DS is demolishing the Vita in sales (hardware and software) and Wii sold many more units than PS3. Corporations aren’t like individual people. For them, success is staying afloat as a business. Staying afloat means making money. Daniel Gonzalez Wii selling more units than ps3 isn’t saying much really. Sony still sold more software sales overall than Nintendo since they had 1st and 3rd party sales on their side for the most part. Not taking anything away from Nintendo, but I just call like I see it. Not defending neither, it’s just a clear fact. Wii was a success, but it also failed in an important area, which was 3rd party. Wii U so far is having the same problems, but we’ll see if t picks up during it’s lifespan. bizzy gie Wii U sales are beginning to pick up now. Daniel Gonzalez Perhaps, but that isn’t for sure. I do expect them to pick up with some first party coming along, but nothing is guaranteed. I’m more of a realist, I don’t go by optimism. Sales overall are still low, so I don’t say anything positive about that until they are at a respectable level, but that’s just me. To each their own. bizzy gie The Wii U sales are on par with PS360’s, but it’s a fact that Pikmin 3 has risen Wii U sales Japan (even if slightly). That’s a fact. Not optimism. Daniel Gonzalez I’m not talking about Wii U, lol. I was talking about last generation with the Wii. That is a fact. Wii U is alone at the moment since ps4 and xbox one aren’t released yet. It’s only a fact for Wii U since there is no competition yet. I’m happy for Wii U for getting it’s sales numbers up a bit, but with the competition coming in, I doubt they’re gonna have it that easy. bizzy gie I meant to put that Wii U launch sales are on par with PS360 launch sales. FaTih Maybe but they have a 3rd party support ._. Zombie Boy You’re right, everybody makes mistakes, and even the head honchos at Nintendo have admitted that they’ve made them. But the third party games will come when the console sales go up, as the third party companies, like every other company (games or otherwise), are in it for the money. Where there’s an audience, there’s cash to be made. The reason I like these kinds of topics is simply because they reassure us that the Wii U is not “dead”, “doomed”, or whatever other phrases the trolls like to use. Daniel Gonzalez Agreed, third party will come if 1st party sales skyrocket. Only problem is, will those third party games be profitable enough for the likes of Ubisoft, EA or Activision for example? Third party have been overshadowed on Nintendo consoles in recent years, so I don’t blame some companies from shying away. There will be those who will take the risk in doing so like Ubisoft. One area Nintendo has resolved is indie game support. I give them an A+ for effort. Zombie Boy Well the 3DS would be the obvious point of reference, and I think games such as Fire Emblem have shown us that third party games can be profitable on a Nintendo system. Daniel Gonzalez Yeah, but the console and handheld market aren’t the same. To third parties 3DS is a gold mine, but the Wii U, is nowhere near that. At least that’s what I’m sure most of them are thinking. I’ll agree with that though, when Wii U starts to pick up on third party. It is a good reference, but doesn’t shine much in terms of the console market. Nintedward Nice comment Daniel 🙂 History has shown that Nintendo is the greatest company in Video gaming. But I totaly agree with you that the future is up for grabs. Nintendo no.1 Sony no2 Microsoft no.3 imo. Sony could overtake Nintendo one day maybe but as it stands they’re not close. Name a Sony franchise with the impact of Mario or Zelda or Smash bros, Pokemon or Mario Kart. That’s right, it’s impossible to do so. Daniel Gonzalez Well Nintendward, you have to take into account that Sony didn’t enter the market until 1995, so naturally, Nintnendo has a stronger impression. If you mean in terms of sales, that doesn’t make Sony any less relevant. Lol. Also, Sony and Nintendo target different demographics. Nintendo is more family friendly and Sony has a more hardcore image, which targets more Teens and Adults. The way I see it, each is great in their own right, but calling them the greatest. Wellll….I don’t get too involved in that much. Each has something to offer the other doesn’t have. Nintendo can be considered the greatest of all time if you want to say that, but in recent years, Sony has made a strong impact and that can’t be denied. It will be interesting to see who will rise and who will fall, but that’s best left for another discussion. As for great Sony games…..Last of US, Uncharted, God of War, Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, Killzone, Infamous, and Twisted Metal just to name some. Games like this will have a greater influence as time goes on. Some can call them blood and gore, but there’s a lot more to them than just that. Anyone who just calls them that doesn’t look too deep into what the games are truly about. Regardless, I love all forms of gaming, so I try not to get into the political end of things. I hate politics. Lol. You make good points, though, but just some I can’t fully agree with. 😛 JB Yea, I’m with you this one. On a sentimental level, Nintendo has a special place in my heart and has my support because they have given me my fondest memories in gaming and the fact that one can’t discount the contribution they made in recovering the industry. (heck, imagine what the video game landscape would be like today if not for them, if it even existed at all.. I don’t even want to know!) In that regard, I always want to see Nintendo succeed and do well.. especially in times when everyone is writing them off, but I’m in the camp of gamer first, loyalist second. I truly want to see everyone succeed (yes, even Microsoft) because for one, competition is a very good thing, and B) every system brings a different experience and something unique to the table (if you discount shooters haha), that can’t be provided if you don’t have said competition. Merrfn You do not want to be a loyalist in front of being a gamer. The people that pre-ordered the xBone before the policies were reversed were mainly the loyalists and the 12 year old brats yelling at Mom to buy the next XBOX. If those policies had not been reversed it would of not been pretty for them. If you were a owner of a 360, saw how bad the xBone was and decided to go PS4, Wii U, PC or to wait and see if the policies would be reversed, then you are a gamer. RedRocBoy Real talk, same with homie. For some reason I just can’t give up on them. And every time people count them they do the impossible and shut down the nay sayers. So I’m riding with N till the casket dip. LOL!! Yousif Alromaithi Last of Us is nowhere among the likes of Metroid Prime, Ocarina of Time, Link to the Past, Twilight Princess, Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2. Only reason it got ten out of ten in most websites just because it is made by Naughty Dog and decided to give it a ten. The game is more like 9.5. The AI is pretty bad. My friend who games Xbox 360 asked me what is the fuss about Last of Us. Asked me he wants to borrow my PS3 to try the game and after three days he finished it and told me that the game is not perfect. He said it is a good game but not a perfect game and also said that is more like a 9. I don’t mean to disrespect your favorite game but the guy games MLG in the past for Halo 3 at 2009. He and my bro are general ranks for Halo 3 and 4. They game Xbox a lot. Truly Uncharted 2 is way better than Last of Us and I ain’t kidding about that. Also a game which is possibly the most expensive PS3 game ever created done by Kojima himself which is MGS4 and did a lot more than what Last of Us or God of War 3 managed to do. Now that gamer’s will finally believe that GTA5 is destined to surpass Last of Us by the end of the year. Trust me on this bro. This link will show all what I have to say. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop GTA 5 is about 137,500,000 and MGS4 is about 60,000,000. GTA5 would Surpass GTA4. Only plain money would help GTA5 to overtake as game of the year of 2013 . Rockstar did a lot of work on GTA5 and that is a fact. Daniel Gonzalez Or perhaps those people really loved The Last of US. Unless you have proof that they just slapped a 10 on a review, it’s just speculation. Besides, it’s a new franchise, of course it’s not as recognized as Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime and company. That doesn’t make it less quality than the rest of Nintendo’s franchises. Anyways, what is considered the best to us or even the media is just politics and opinions, so neither are considered right or wrong. I won’t agree with you on this one, but I do agree that GTA V has had a lot of work done to it. Rockstar Games barely disappoints. Yousif Alromaithi Truly I hate critics forget that MGS4 saved PS3 and saying Uncharted 3 is a better game than MGS4. Games like MGS4 comes out once in a lifetime because it simple amazing. I never forget the experience I had on MGS4. I once hated PS3 a lot and said that system is garbage Xbox had better games. Why PS3 no JRPG and I was really mad at Sony. Then MGS4 came out shocked me and blow my mind. I said wow, a game that showed the full potential of PS3. A friend of mine has told me that is the most expensive PS3 game ever made. I could not believe but only say that Kojima and Konami worked real hard on making that game. greengecko007 I share the same opinion. Nintendo > Sony > Microsoft for me too. But I’m sorry, the way you reason your opinion is terrible. Name and recognition and sales aren’t a factor in how great or successful a company is. By that logic you must think Namco is the God of the video game industry, because I guarantee you more people know who Pac Man is than Mario or Link. In fact, a lot of people that do at least recognize the character Link only remember the name Zelda. Merrfn It all comes down to opinion. I guarantee you if he liked SONY it would be: SONY> Nintendo> Microsoft. Same rule if he liked Microsoft. Just shows that that comment he posted had no reasoning other than opinion. Because if he was stating actual fact, well… Their really isn’t. It is debatable wether SONY or Nintendo are the kings. Nintendo succeeds in the first party department. Loses in the third party. Sony though they have good first party don’t really beat Nintendo’s first party titles. However Sony wins in third party. It really isn’t certain. Lets just say Nintendo is the King and that Sony is the Queen. A tie. greengecko007 It is still perfectly possible to reason an opinion. My favorite color is green because It has a very natural look and makes me think of forests. My point was that Nintendo is not the best or most successful company because people recognize their products or they sold a lot units. That is why I used the example of Namco. So many people know what Pac Man is, and the game has had a major impact on society, but that doesn’t mean that Namco is a very successful company. As I also stated, I agree with Nintedward’s opinion, but his reasoning that Nintendo is the best because of name recognition is flawed. Daniel Gonzalez Well said. His passion is in the right place though. Of course, some things he says are a bit questionable. Daniel Gonzalez Agreed, higher sales doesn’t equal better quality and is a common misconception. If that was true, then I suppose Call of Duty is better than Mario games. Magnus Eriksson Take it easy, take it easy. No one talks about XBox here. This is a Nintendo page. 🙂 Nintedward Says the guy who brought Xbox onto this page. Lay of the Crack, man…. bad for you. Magnus Eriksson XBox? Crack? bizzy gie The XB1 is a toy compared to PS4. Daniel Gonzalez Can’t argue with that one. Merrfn What are the new gameplay features on a PS3 vs a PS4? I am just wondering if Sony is doing good things or cashing in on the market. The jump between the XBOX 360 to the xBone seems greater than the jump between the PS3 than the PS4. But then a valid point could be that the XBOX 360 sucked and the PS3 was better than it. What are your opinions? I may just have not been informed. Share button and live streaming… Thats all I got. Oh and LED lights on the dualshock controller. If somebody could inform me on what else the PS4 has on the PS3 that would be great. Daniel Gonzalez http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/161966-5-killer-xbox-one-and-ps4-features-that-no-ones-talking-about That should help answer most of your questions. If you want my opinion on it, I prefer ps4 over xbox one. After their used game and their DRM fiasco, I don’t trust Microsoft and think their xbox live service is weak in comparison to PSN. In my opinion, Sony has had better customer support than Microsoft. Plus, forums on xbox live are full of idiotic moderators who have little to no sense of humor nor can they take criticism from gamers. I can’t speak for Sony’s since I don’t usually bother with them that often. I just love what Sony has to offer, and I prefer their first party titles over Microsoft’s. Merrfn Microsoft’s first party titles are not anything I really go near. I too do prefer the PS4 to the xBone. Nintendo so far seems to of made the biggest leap. Will it pay off? Who knows. Moderators on XBL ban people that troll. I don’t like trolls but still… Microsoft comes of to me rather cheap i.e. red ring of death, XBL. And then they want to make the maximum profit that they can. SONY though squeezing your wallet as all businesses must do, don’t seem to be as overbearing. At the end of this gen I may decide to get a PS4 but for now it is my Wii U and gaming PC. Daniel Gonzalez They also ban those with a different opinion than their own. Trust me, I’ve seen it happen dozens of times. Which is why I don’t bother with xbox anymore. That and the annoying 12 year old kids on mic running their vocal cord scraping voices trying to act all bad ass. Lol. Yeah, I went through 4 360’s, that proves your point. I have the new slim version which to my surprise hasn’t died yet, so I guess they fixed the issue. I’ll get a ps4 and a Wii U eventually, but for now, I’m just gonna stick to PC for the time being and keep up to date with the news. Merrfn When I went to my friends house we played some CoD. All I could hear were white, spoilt, overprivalidged 12 year olds, saying “Niggah” and acting like baddasses while they asked their mom for juice and treated her like shit, saying: BUY ME MORE XBOX LIVE YOU FUC*ING IDIOT! Daniel Gonzalez A lot of kids are poorly raised these days, and then the parents blame games like GTA and COD for influencing their kids to kill or harm others. Today’s society in my opinion for the most part is crap. Unfortunately, we have to deal with it. Merrfn One of my friends brothers is 7 and plays GTA IV and CoD. His other brother has been playing GTA since he was eight. They both have quite the mouths… Words I didn’t know until I was 11. cu*t, pri*k, fag*ot etc. They all just casually drop the F-BOMB. The worst thing is that they have headsets with microphones and XBL. Just wait a second until the predators come… Gecko Altair I just gave you a virtual high five. Gotallofthem Disagree bizzy gie PS4 is far more powerful than XB1. That’s a fact. Yousif Alromaithi I don’t think I agree bro if Nintendo have not been bashed after it amazing sales on November and December than this would not happen in the first place. I predict that in 12 weeks Nintendo would have reached 1 million with Rayman Legends. Still PS3 suffered heavily but then games managed to pick up on October that boasted PS3 sales from the debut of Tools of Destruction and Uncharted. If Nintendo debuts Zelda, Sonic and Wii U Party “bundle deluxe” on October then sales will hit 1.5 million by November. Wonderful 101 will help sales but not a system seller for Wii U. I would pick it up because I love Hideki Kamiya works and his games for Clover Studios and other things such as Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta and Resident Evil 2 would not let me go down. This guy is a genius I can’t believe that no one even cares about his games. Survival Horror fans say they want a better Resident Evil game okay then support him because he is the mastermind behind Capcom famous franchises. Antar Rodríguez LOOOL you changed the post completely Smartass2 What was it before? Antar Rodríguez cant remember the words exactly but he was telling how crap the wii u sales and console “are” AZHood I find the PS3 reaching a million in 38 weeks more fascinating, seeing as it was significantly more expensive than the Wii U at launch. It’ll be interesting to see how the PS4 will compare with the Wii U on a race to 1 million, especially if the reports of demand outpacing supply keep up. Still, those numbers in Japan will continue to go up this year. Wonder how the sales for NA and EU will turn out. Gotallofthem The PS4 will sell 10 million in 1 year. AZHood That has nothing to do with my statement. Zombie Boy And you’ve also shown yourself up to be a rabid, biased fanboy. Mohuz you are forgetting that the economey was better when the PS3 launched Daniel Gonzalez Congrats, Nintendo. Now we wait for the games. Luffy i’m in no hurry, still need to finish monster hunter and earthbound! Zorpix One does not simply “finish” monster hunter Either that or: “You dont finish. you just get a little better gear each time” Yousif Alromaithi Oh they can on the in game hunts but the online play is impossible. Zorpix eh, can always make more gear 😉 Yousif Alromaithi game is all about grinding materials for better equipment and off course you will make more gears. Zorpix then offline play never ends ;3 Luffy ok, then play it until i have done everything i wanted to do. 🙂 Zorpix I dunno about you, but I wanna do EVERYTHING 😉 RedRocBoy Jesus! I’m stuck that freakin’ Diablos! I freakin’ hate him!!!!! XD Zorpix Try diving under him more and hitting him from below. That way, when he charges, he’ll run right over you Steven_Segal LOL, I’m replaying Super Mario Galaxy 1. One of the best Wii games out there Edward I was thinking of playing Skyward Sword again. Steven_Segal Man, I need to pick that one up. Have not played any Zelda games yet. Edward Are you serious? You are missing an amazing game. I have seen it at stores for like $39.99 before and that is a pretty good price for a Nintendo game. It didn’t get the numbers that most Zelda games get due to it being released at the end of Wii’s lifetime. Pretty sad when you think about it, it was pretty good. Steven_Segal Yup, the problem is that I need to get a Wii Motion Plus (is cheap now) but I’m trying to save for newer games. I’ll probably pick this one after I buy A 3DS. Edward Yeah for sure pick that game up. I bought a 3DS system awhile back at an Meijer outlet store for 100 dollars. At the time it was struggling so I got a pretty good deal on it. Steven_Segal That’s a great deal. Now it’s very popular because of the awesome games! Mochlum I actually recommend getting Ocarina of Time 3D with a 3DS first. I know it is a cliche to say OOT is best, but it is a great way to get started on the Zelda series, at least in my opinion. Steven_Segal Alright man, thanks. Michael Nillo PICK IT UP MAN! Skyward Sword was my intro to the console Zelda games and it did not disappoint! Steven_Segal Thanks, probably getting this soon! 00EpicGamer00 You should also try Zelda Twilight Princess. That one’s pretty cool. And it’s pretty cheap. I think it’s $20. Steven_Segal I think I should try them all LOL Michael Nillo It would be a sin if you didn’t lol Steven_Segal LOL fireheartis1 Skyward Sword is a really good one to start with. The motion controls make it more intuitive than any other Zelda game in my opinion. Steven_Segal Yeah, I’ve heard that’s one of the best Zelda’s?! fireheartis1 Yep it’s pretty epic. Steven_Segal Yeah, I got hooked up with the music, LOL Edward How many games do you have for the Wii? Steven_Segal I’ve sold many of the ones I had (to buy a Wii U) but right now I have -Super Mario Galaxy 1 -Metroid Other M -Wii Sports -Super Smash Bros. Brawl -World of Goo (download) Edward I have over 140 wii games. Some are for my girlfriend and a few are for my kids, but most of them are for me. Steven_Segal That’s a big collection! Edward Yeah for sure, I got good deals on a lot of them from EBAY. I ended up getting Metroid Trilogy, Super Mario All-Stars, and a few other rare games but I’m still working on my collection. Edward There is a few games I don’t have that I wished I would have gotten. Xenoblade Chronicles, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, and Pandoras Tower are a few of them. Steven_Segal Xenoblade is super expensive! Edward I know, I seen it at the store and was going to get it but didn’t realize it was that popular. I think they only made a certain amount of games for North America though. The new game they are working on though I will not be making the same mistake. Steven_Segal It was a Gamestop exclusive. i saw it a couple of times but really didn’t caught my intersest until I saw gameplay and when I went to buy it all resellers or collectors bought them 🙁 Edward I know I will probably end up buying one for like 140 though. I like my games with everything Case, Manual, and Game(no scratches) Steven_Segal I also like to get complete copies of games. I think i’ll wait and search patiently until I find one for decent price. Edward There is one game that I don’t have a complete copy of and that is Spyro Eternal Night and I’m missing the manual. Uggghhhhh that bugs me. Steven_Segal At least is not that hard to find lol fireheartis1 I’m never going to buy Xenoblade Chronicles unless I can find a disk only for $30.00 or so. I will be picking up Pandora’s Tower before it get’s super expensive though. Steven_Segal Right now is $30 new (Pandora’s Tower) on Gamestop! Edward Yeah true that. I got The Last Story at least. insomniac i realized that i had skipped the wind waker game all together. so thats what iv been playing. man did i miss out. also on a side note one of the best wii games that went unheard of was Disaster: Day of Crisis…. i highly recommend it great game play and graphics and even a pretty good story Guest 10+ hours into the game and I still never enjoyed it.Such a shame as I really wanted to enjoy it, especially as I had nothing else to play. I sold it in the end. But I could always see the appeal and I understood why people might like it. Luffy well, im playing it online with a couple of friends, so that help a lot im sure! Yoshifan3 Congrats Nintendo, Now hurry up with the games. I think people are sick and tired of waiting for your first party games to come out. 🙂 Ice Climbers Which is why Pikmin 3 is gonna sell really well. Antar Rodríguez hopefully this fall line up will have the same effect in the rest of the world therealruben1 I keep thinking the wii u gamepad in the photo above is a giant version Yoshifan3 Nintendo needs to step it up with third parties, because the wii u cant survive on first party alone this time, yes the sales are great, but for how long? can they do this sort of thing in NA and EU? its great to have a variety, but like i said, the wii u cant survive on first party, greengecko007 3rd party support isn’t as important as first party exclusive titles. 3rd party support is only an issue with Nintendo because it means people that want 3rd party games have to buy another console in addition to a Nintendo console. People that don’t like a company’s exclusive titles don’t buy the system for that company anyway. Yoshifan3 well i sure as heck dont want to buy 2 consoles. one for 3rd parties and one for 1st party. that just seems like a waste of money, why cant i have the best of both worlds on ONE nintendo console? Pikmin doesnt interest me, the games i want for wii u dont come out until 2014. Mario 3d world im skeptical about, it shouldve been a true mario game, not a sequel to a 3ds game. RedRocBoy Yeah. I love all the first party titles but I seriously do not want my Wii U to be a Mario Zelda box. The console is more than capable of keeping up with the other two. It’s the developers who are acting stank. oontz no it’s the wiiu users who ONLY buy the nintendo games. If wiiu users bought 3rd party games, then it would be profitable for 3rd parties to release games on wiiu. It’s just business, game companies are going to do anything unless there is a high chance of making a profit. Ice Climbers Nintendo fans have been trained to not expect much from 3rd parties. We’ve been given half assed ports with features missing, and no or delayed DLC support. 3rd parties are expecting their games to automatically be successful on the system, but it doesn’t work like that. They have to build a following on the system. People say that it’s Nintendo who won’t open their doors to 3rd parties. However, with 3DS and Wii U Nintendo has been opening their doors to 3rd parties (there’s a reason why there were no major 1st party games at the 3DS launch). 3rd parties aren’t opening their doors to Nintendo. oontz It’s Nintendo’s fault. They shot themselves in the foot by not making the original wii HD and the same power of the other two. If it would have been an even playing field then nintendo would have had the entire last generation to cultivate 3rd party support and make lasting relationships with developers. Those 3rd party developers wouldn’t be so hesitant now as their business relationships would have carried over to the wiiu. So yeah it kinda is Nintendo’s fault. If your business plan is to go against the grain and cater to a niche market then you have to accept the fact that not all 3rd party companies are going to come along for the ride. The cold hard truth is that the majority of Nintendo console owners, ONLY buy nintendo first party games. Ice Climbers True, but Nintendo hasn’t had great 3rd party support since SNES. Most 3rd parties haven’t trusted Nintendo ever since they closed their doors with the N64. 3rd party games were actually more successful on Wii than they ever were on N64 and Gamecube. They would still be hesitant regardless if the Wii was HD. Simply because its a Nintendo system. 3rd parties are to blame for not giving Nintendo fans an incentive to buy their games. I can guarantee that CoD Ghosts isn’t going to sell anywhere near as well on Wii U as Black Ops 2 did because of Activision not supporting the Wii U version with DLC. Also, certain 3rd party games do extremely well on Nintendo systems (see: Monster Hunter). RECKLESSgoat Once it gets the required install base that 3rd party needs to make profit of games will come rushing in, the wii u is doing just great soon devs wont be able to ignore it anymore. greengecko007 Nintendo is trying their best to win back 3rd party developers trust, but keep in mind that Nintendo spent years blowing them off and ignoring their needs. The problem isn’t going to be fixed just because the Wii U starts selling better. Relationships take time to build. RECKLESSgoat we gotta wait and see what happens. Edward They are doing a better job by there Independent policies. Hopefully a few of them turn out into bigger development teams. Luffy they have great indie support, and i love the potential of indie so… im not saying that support for the big companies are not welcome, but as long as i can play quality games on my U, i have no problem with not getting all the games. just as i love my gamecube, genesis, dreamcast, saturn, i will love the console Elem187 Nintendo will do fine without massive third party…I keep people trying to say Nintendo has to have massive third party support which is absurd… Sony and Microsoft couldn’t survive without third party but Nintendo has proven over and over again they can more than support their console by themselves…. Third party support on Nintendo systems has always been weak, because Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo consoles mostly for… shocker, Nintendo games. The N64 was just fine, the Gamecube was just fine, the Wii was just fine. RedRocBoy Sweet! Now I hope Nintendo listens to us and gives the games we want (Metriod,F Zero,Star Fox etc). We’re basically trying to throw money @ them but they seem like they don’t want it. 🙁 oontz They don’t have enough first party studios to delegate the workload to. They should be spending money and buying studios. Andrew Chambers Like Atlus… Santanata wii u = dreamcast without cool games Mohuz PS4 = Atari Jaguar XD Andrew Chambers That’s a little too harsh… Maybe the Xbone = Atari Jaguar? Mohuz Xbone = Philips CD-i i was going by his logic XD Andrew Chambers Yeah, that’s a better comparison. Elem187 I’m predicting the OUYA will outsell the xBone. Elem187 Thankfully the Wii U will have cool games starting next week (this week for Europe)….. far better games than Sega could ever make (have you seen SEGA games today? They are terrible) Tom Greene I bought a Wii U day one and traded it in for 3ds XL less than three months later not because of the lack of Games, but because of the horrible load times on Wiiu games ( talking about you Tekken Tag 2 & Sonic Transformed ) and don’t even get met started on the fact that Nintendo opted to only include 32 gb of storge that was down to 25 gb after a mandatory update..pathetic ! Merrfn What does your opinion stand now? Or when the games come in at least. Will you end up picking one up? Zombie Boy You’re aware that system updates have pretty much remedied the loading time problems, and that you can connect an external hard drive, right? greengecko007 I still have long loading times. I shouldn’t have to wait at all just to do something simple like check my system settings or start an internet browser. But again, before people call me a “troll”, I’m hard on Nintendo because I hold them to high standards because they have a past reputation of bringing quality day one. Zombie Boy That’s strange, I normally have to wait no longer than 7 or 8 seconds for anything now. Not saying you’re not telling the truth, but I’m curious if there’s a reason for it. To me, 7 or 8 seconds is nothing when you think about loading times on previous consoles (I remember gaming on the Spectrum 48k, when you had to wait 10 minutes+ for a game to load). greengecko007 No, you are correct. My loading screens are no more than 7-8 seconds on my Wii U. But I do consider that a long time to wait every time I want to do something. The Wii only had a couple seconds of loading for a game disc, but the game started as soon as you selected start. My PS3 internet browser starts up instantaneously, and I can view my system settings on both my Wii and PS3 without a loading screen at all. Edward There is suppose to be another update the end of summer or beginning of fall. Be patient man good things come to those who wait. greengecko007 I will simply say that I am spoiled and leave it at that. Nintendo has always given me quality products day one in the past. The Wii U however is different. They are doing their best to update it though. Gecko Altair At least you traded for a 3DS. Merrfn Those 7-8 seconds are not long at all. But it always feels like 30 seconds. I want it and I want it now! The impatience is strong in me. Andrew Chambers Well, the PS3 browser boots faster because it’s a lighter browser. But the Wii U browser can do more. Yoshifan3 agreed, people let nintendo get away with too much. its getting ridiculous how everyone is like this:: Nintendo: we are delaying our update a few months. Fans: oh ok, no biggie. I believe in you nintendo! rinse and repeat. thats just one example. the wii u was rushed into the market, if it wouldve launched when the other two consoles launch, we wouldnt have this problem. we would have ALOT more games, including first party. Antar Rodríguez sorry to hear that, you do realized that they fixed loading times and overall console speed in an update? if not well then youll miss the great games comming its your loss. RedRocBoy You’re an idiot. Elem187 I applaud Nintendo for not forcing me to pay for storage I don’t need. What you are ignoring is Sony and microsoft sell you these small harddrives with these MASSIVE mark ups. You are literally paying 3x too much for the space they give you…. by offering small flash drive for most consumers needs (its plenty for eshop and VC games)… while allowing the option for power users to upgrade to whatever harddrive they wish gives the consumer far more choice and control over the costs….. I know you marxist like having companies make choices for you instead of being left up to the freedom of chosing for yourself, but its a benefit for the consumer for what Nintendo did. JBeauregard In the vein of the movie, Field of Dreams, “Release the games, and they will come.” Joey Perez I was at san diego comic con.. and these events are critical for nintendo as i pretty much hung out in the nintendo area the whole two days … just to play the games! and yes i played everything at least twice!!! but it became apparent that a lot of people in there had never ever played a wii u … and were way overjoyed when they finally did!!! as a nintendo fan it was nice to see the faces of amazement on peoples faces as they found out the game pad was comfortable and all the games looked great .. i played the xbox 1 and ps4 as well and honestly the visuals of bayonetta two are just a quick peak into what the wii u can do ! the end scene on that game was amazing and looked just as good as everything available on the sony and microsoft machines .. as more wii units are sold and people see that this little machine is quite robust and more affordable it will not only succeed but it may be better off than what everyone expects. I kid you not that nothing looked better on the two graphically superior machines and yes of course i kno in the long run the games will look better on other systems but for now … the power its offering is amazing for the price…. 🙂 i predict nintendo will have a great holiday .. especially since undoubtably the other two big machines will sell out and people will settle for the nintendo machine with over 20 games to pick up and play ! Gotallofthem Nice post, I think that what you are saying is on point. If all 3 machines are displayed at the local BB or GS, and for now the WiiU games, look as good as the 1 and 4, then when people come in to buy a new system, their thought will be “why shell out extra money for these other 2 systems when the WiiU is looking just as good”. Could help Nintendo out oontz As usual, it will come down to the exclusives the consumer wants to play. Either they want a single system for THOSE exclusives or they buy more than one system to have two companies exclusives. Kyori You and your predictions my friend, could be better analyst than pachter or whatever you write that last name XD. Joey Perez Thank u ! Andrew Chambers I agree that the Wii U a lot more capable then many are giving it credit for, but let’s be honest, the only reason that the X1™ and PS4 games look similar is because devs haven’t learned to utilized all resources yet. Plus, most of the launch titles where originally last gen games. By the end of this gen Wii U games won’t look as good as the others, but that doesn’t matter as much as how fun they are. Elem187 nonsense. The PS4 and xBone are based on the x86 architecture with off the shelf GPU’s from AMD… There is no learning curve here. Any developer that has ported their games to the PC this past generation already know all of the ins and outs of this architecture…. including Sony devs (Sony has released several PC games this past generation like EQ and Planetside)…. and Microsoft, of course they already know this hardware in and out. Normally console systems are based on non-standard CPU/GPU architecture, which leaves alot of room for developers to get to terms with the hardware. ….. but we won’t see that happening with the PS4/xBone because this hardware has been in use around the world for decades. Developers know all the tricks in getting these x86 processors to squeeze out all the performance they can. The visuals may look slightly better over time just from learning asset creation tools, artistic expansive and creativity may change, but the performance will remain constant. Nothing like the gulf from early PS3 games to TLOU. Andrew Chambers Just because the hardware is similar doesn’t mean the software or dev kits are the same. If that was true then every PC game would also be available on Linux. Plus there are limitations caused by the OS on the system, such as the X1™ taking up 3GB of RAM vs the PS3’s (EDIT: I meant PS4’s) 1GB. And the GPU’s aren’t anything too new and will be obsolete and underpowered (compared to mid-range PC cards) within two years, so devs will have to learn to program more efficiently. And programming games is already different because more devs are starting to realize that utilizing the GPU over CPU for processing graphics is faster and more efficient. Elem187 Most PC games are compatible with Linux using Wine.. Wine does this by instead of emulating an architecture like what we see with Dolphin it actually only translates the API so the software knows how to communicate with the hardware. The software also needs to know how to locate libraries which is also handled through wine. With only minimal loss in performance if any at all… In my experience using it I never ran into a single game that didn’t run in wine, and the performance hit of using the API wrapper was maybe 1 or 2 frames a second. The only reason why developers don’t put their games directly on Linux because the install base of potential customers is tiny and the actually number of gamers on Linux is even smaller. The work load to do it is miniscule, but even the little bit of work wouldn’t justify the 10k to 20k in sales. If a developer knows how to program on a windows box, they already know how to program on a Linux box, and should already be able to program for e ps4/xb1… The compiler might require different command, the libraries might be in a different spot and they may have to switch from directx to opengl, but the programming language is the same, and its compiling for the same x86 processor…. Any porting would be minimal between the systems. Andrew Chambers True, but running games natively on Linux is a much better route, just ask Valve. It’s way more efficient and gives higher FPS. And Wine hardly counts because it’s translating. Linux can’t run .exe without Wine (or something similar). Anyway, my main point was that developers still need to learn how to utilize next-gen systems and their limitations properly before we see what they are truly capable of. Zachary Stevens You are very wrong ps3 does not have 1gb of ram and ps4 is no were ner as powerful than wii u like people make it seem. Ps3 and Xbox 360 were 20x more powerful than the wii. But that reason is because nintendo Wii was not HD and re used the same tech and architecture from the gamecube which is from 1998. Wii u is 4 to 5 times more powerful than the xbox 360 also ps3. Ps3 and xbox 360 tech is from 2004 and 2005. The wii u technology is from 2010 and is very customized and modified. Know xbox one and ps4 tech is from 2011 which is not as big as a tech gap from last gen. You should also be aware that nintendo wii u can run every next gen engine. Wii u is like a mide range pc from 2010 xbox one is a mid range pc from 2011. Ps4 is a high end pc from 2011. So know your facts before you talk. Andrew Chambers I meant to say the PS4 uses 1GB. There, I fixed it. If you read what I said you’d see that I was talking about the PS4 using only 1GB out of the 8GB total for the OS. And the PS4 is not a high range system from 2011. The GPU in the PS4 has not been completly confermed, but based on what we’re seeing it’s only a little better then the X1 which has a high-mid range GPU from 2010. Processor wise the Wii U is quite behind the other next-gen consoles. Compare 3 cores to 8. But as I’ve said in other post, the GPU is what really matters. And no, the Wii U cannot run every next-gen engine without being modified. Remember, Frostbyte 4 doesn’t run very well, but that’s because it’s more CPU reliant then GPU. Texture-wise the Wii U won’t be that far behind, but it will have more loading times and less particles on screen then the other two systems. Smartass2 Nintendo will do just fine. You got to keep in mind the last generation came out before the depression. You’ll see how good Sony and MS will do. Especially when they have no backwards compatability and there’s not much of a difference in graphics. Also not many games. You think it’s taking a while for the games on Nintendo you’ll be waiting much longer for developers to get a handle on the other systems. They’ve already stated its gonna take a lot of time and money. $41809923 THATS VERY TRUE Antar Rodríguez backwards compatibility a HUGE PLUS point for nintendo Smartass2 Yeah. All your Wii games and the virtual console. Super Metroid for $0.30. Steven_Segal Free online! Smartass2 The only one now. Big plus. Nintendo needs to hire the advertisers from the car insurance commercials. Steven_Segal LOL! Edward Or they could hire that guy from Lawman. LOL Antar Rodríguez anotherone, i heard that sony wants to do the same as xbox live and charge for playing online but i dont know if they are just rumors or actually stated that Steven_Segal Yeah actually PS4 needs Playstation Plus membership (50-60 dollars a year) to play online multiplayer. They said it at their E3 conference Edward Didn’t they get hacked a few times. I would wait awhile before I give them any money for online. Steven_Segal Yeah, it was PlayStation Network Andrew Chambers In all fairness anyone can get hacked with that kind of determination. What happened is that Sony pissed off almost every black hat hacker in the world and they wanted revenge. Derek D’Arcy Thats good news i just hope for reasonable success in europe and america sd Wow its already beating the 360 (in japan only of course)….. oontz The 360 sold less than a million consoles in Japan since its release? sd I dont know. It was my attempt at a joke. I saw the figures the other week that showed weekly sales had increased quite a lot to 396!!. At the same time it said wii U sales are still low at 22200 for the week. Edit:- Had a look and cant find an exact figure, but it was at 1.5 million in 2011 and has not been selling that well since. So its probably around or just under 2 million in total. So the WiiU is halfway there, in Japan anyway. Andrew Chambers According to VGChartz it’s still around 1.5M. A few weeks ago it was averaging at around 400 units a week. Adrian I want that Wii U Gamepad table center piece. 🙂 Michael Jurado why do people not take into consideration that 2006 the economy was decent while 2013 the economy is in a spiral shit hole Edward Yeah I think each console is going to go through its struggles. With Nintendo and Sony being at the head of the class. X-Box is making a mistake forcing people to buy the system with the Kinect. What if people don’t want that thing? They are forced to buy it with the system anyways. Steven_Segal I think Nintendo will be a very close second (if not 1st) in terms of sales of consoles since has a lot of things that other consoles don’t: Free Online No Kinect whatever $100 dollars cheaper Gamepad Multiple controlling options Backwards compatibility Virtual Console games Edward Off-T.V. gaming. That could be filed under Gamepad though. Your money because some “genius” decided to buy most of our resources from china, fund most of the goverment money to the military, and tax more to the middle class than the rich. Elem187 Why bring up Obama in a video game comments section? But since you brought him up, lets discuss what his policies have done to the economy and buying power of most Americans. Which leads to less everything sold, include video game consoles and software. His healthcare law has been an anchor on small business. forcing companies with 50 or more full time employees to either offer healthcare or pay a massive fine is nothing but a calamity for the economy. Companies have been laying off full time employees non-stop for the past 3 years trying to keep their full time count under 50 and hiring those former full time employees back as part time workers. With 25 million Americans either out of work or can’t find full-time work (mostly because this law created an incentive to hire part time workers instead) This is why the economy is going to remain anemic and in tatters. 70% of Americans work for small businesses, and when policies negatively effect small businesses it filters down to those workers that work for small business. Small business owners when punished like this must either recoup costs through employees or customers… which affects the buying power of most Americans. That in return means less non-essential products are being purchased… including video games. The middle class had a very large tax cut from 2003-2013. Starting this year the jobs destroyer in the White House pulled the rug out and middle class pay checks dropped like a rock.. I lost $300 a month to this tax hike. Thats $300 per month I would be spending on non-essential things, which put money into the pockets of small businesses and the people that work for them.. multiply that by 10’s of millions of Americans and that is ALOT of lost economic growth. That economic demand effects ALL small businesses as they rely on that demand to keep paying their workers…. And now the Jobs Destroyer in the White House is travelling the country calling for even more tax hikes on small businesses and individuals that create jobs, just so he can spend even more money that has ZERO tangible benefit to our economy… Look at the wasted stimulus bill that didn’t stimulate.. That debt will be on the backs of our children and their children and the childrens grandchildren, and for what benefit? NONE. No jobs have been created, no GDP growth these last 5 years. Nada, just one massive scam to pay off trillions of dollars to special interest…. The American people chose a real winner in this guy. Petri True, I had no problem paying 500€ for a 360 GTA IV bundle (rip off), and 550€ (think that was GTA IV bundle too with GT 5 prologue) later on for PS3 when I realized that XB360 was crap. I would not pay 500€ for XBOne (though its 530€ cheapest I found here). 400€ I might be willing to spend on PS4, but they’re asking 450€ here, like we are not part of the Europe they were talking about when they announced pricing. Though I barely have time to play Wii U and PC as much as I’d like to. Michael Jurado I for one think any new product that sells with next to 0 advertisement in a rescission is in a league of its own reyn69sharla great news….HAMMER BEAT. Gecko Altair When i went to the local Supermarket today, I saw an advertisement in the store for Pikmin 3! I think Nintendo has been waiting for better games to come out before advertising. (BTW I live in the U.S) Edward I’ve seen at least a commercial a day for it in the States. I also seen an ad for it in Game Informer. Elem187 This is what I have been saying these last 8 months everytime a ‘gamer’ who doesn’t understand business (being redundant I know) that there is no benefit in advertising a console that doesn’t have very many games. It would be a waste of money to dump 50 million dollars in advertising without having enough product on the shelves for consumers to purchase. Nintendo is going to have to dump a ton of cash on advertising this holiday season in the west… There is a very good chance that they could outsell the two more expensive consoles…. PS4/xBone will get their hardcore fan base that is chomping at the bit to buy a new console, but we don’t know how expensive consoles will play out for parents looking to buy their 4 to 15 year old kids a gaming console…. Nintendo always has the advantage when it comes to parents buying Christmas presents. A small price drop would be money for Nintendo this holiday season + their fantastic games library (most exclusives, most titles in general this holiday out of the big 3’s nextgen systems.) Ducked Don’t hate on great Wanderlei Wii U sold one million in less time than the ps3;) oontz The PS3 also cost a lot more. Elem187 price doesn’t have anything to do with it…. its different markets.. Nintendo systems target family friendly demographics and would need to remain lower in price, while Sony PS3 was targetting the older male demographic that usually dumps a large part of their income on video games…. The PS3 SUCKED the first several years, thats why it sold poorly. uPadWatcher Wii U sold 1 million units in 33 weeks in Japan… I’m impressed. Let’s hope the Big N brings more games (including indies) to their HD console! Mario My mind is blown! They finally sold 1 million units in Japan! Your money Not to be a downer, but it’s too bad that other countries are lacking on wii u sales. especially the UK. which is why nintendo is launching a campaign on the wii u to show UK the Wii u. Merrfn The Wii U is not doing that good right now, out of Japan. I think the units will start selling now that some first party titles are coming out, and sell even better when SSB, MK8 and Zelda U drop. You are not being a downer you are just not putting on a fake smile and starting to dance. Keeping it real I like to say 😉 Mario Let’s hope it works! Christian Schoff They should make a special one with the flag on the casing and call it the Wii U K. Piston Honda Seeing that America is the laziest country. Xbox preys on this fact and make a lot more since there is a bigger market in NA. mr.Goodbar Your a joke. America is the hardest working country. We work 8hrs a day 5 days a week and overtime! While 2nd world countries like Russia, Mexico and continents like asia work 5hrs with 5 20 min breaks. Chris Heskin dude mexicans work hard like crazy oontz “America is the hardest working country.” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA… Elem187 Compared to Europe…. 😉 France, Greece, and Spain bring down the European average… doesn’t the French government place restrictions on working more than 30 hours a week and force some 2 or 3 months worth of vacation every year? I wonder how anyone ever gets anything done. sdmac200600 Uhh dude I live in America and I can legitimately say that we are a lazy bunch of people. You cannot say we aren’t lazy when we are the fattest country in the world… Andrew Chambers Um, actually we’re the tenth fattest country now. Christian Schoff Tenth huh? I thought we were in the top 5. Huh. Go us? Peter Lythaby Donut shortage 😉 sdmac200600 Out of what? 200+ countries? That isn’t even better. That also has to be recent because we were #1 not so long ago. Andrew Chambers If I had to guess, I’d say the reason that we were number one for awhile is because we had better health records so we knew about it. It’s not like everyone started loosing weight. 00EpicGamer00 You serious? America is NOT the hardest working country. Mexico is actually the hardest working country. USA: works about 496 minutes per day Mexico: works about 594 minutes per day Your money I can see where u are going, but mr.goodbar is right. yes i know that we buy most of our resources from china, but that’s being resolved, Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 Finally. .hopefully next year that number goes up to 5 million or something. bizzy gie Wii U is great! fireheartis1 Not sure it would be a good thing to be able to block trolls though for real. Arthur Hughes He wants to block me from calling him out on the lies and rumors he tries to spout as facts. It bothers him. So if anybody can teach him how to stop being a troll it would be awesome Guest Wrong site xbox fanboy! Arthur Hughes I own a Wii u had it since launch. Here is some fun reading for you go watch bizzy be retarded http://xboxonedaily.com/2013/07/first-party-xbox-one-games-priced-at-50-in-the-uk/ Steven_Segal LOL, sorry I didn’t wrote this to you. Steven_Segal Sorry, I didn’t wrote this to you. It was for another user! XiC Hey Guest you commented that to the wrong guy. It should be for bizzy gie. John Raybell lol i caught that too, XiC Yup, a lot of people seem to look at the thumbs and just thumb with the majority. Doesn’t matter if they’re completely and utterly wrong. bizzy gie You’re stalking me now? Holy crap! What a loser. Arthur Hughes i find it hilarious you edited your post. Should go edit a lot more of them to reduce the level of retardation everybody sees bizzy gie You should delete yours altogether so people think you’re human. XiC Well I took a bit of time to read you two’s argument. All I can see is bizzy gie providing no proof of what he’s saying and arguing with a mod. Honestly though, if a guy can’t provide any reasonable amount of facts you should just give up on arguing with them. You can’t help everyone lose their ignorance. If anyone is interested in what this is about just read the argument these two had. http://xboxonedaily.com/2013/07/microsoft-kills-rumors-of-a-kinect-free-xbox-one-bundle/#comment-975394477 Arthur Hughes It’s been funny, He gets pretty upset about being called out to back up the crap he spews. Hence why he came here to try so he can try to find out a way to block the people that keeps calling him on his crap. Or he ignores all the answers given to him and keep trying to make a stupid point thats been demolished. Daniel Gonzalez I try not to get involved in these crazy debates, but yeah, you’re clearly right. I found it funny that he was arguing with a moderator that obviously is more knowledgeable. starwars360 Yeah it is!!! sdmac200600 That’s not really much for 38 weeks of being on the market. That’s only 26,315 a week. boynhisblobs Only a few systems in the history of gaming have done better in the first year, surprising I know. Satoru Iwata Nintendo is like a phoenix, we rise from the ashes. Please understand, we will never die. Here at Nintendo, we have many 1 Up’s and never run out thanks to yours truly, Mario. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its quality products. XiC Rise from the ashes…? What ash was Nintendo rising from? The blowout console win last generation with the Wii? Aside from the high opening month sales for the Wii U, it has fairly constant sale figures in Japan. It was only a matter of time before it reached a million sales. If you’re going to try and role play as a great man such as Iwata then at least be knowledgeable about the company he runs. Satoru Iwata I’m very sorry my honorable fan, but I was talking about Nintendo in all regions, not just Japan. Perhaps I should have made it more clear. For my mistake you will receive a free copy of our latest game, Big Brain Academy, it will sharpen your skills and realize the brains you thought you never had. You can download this as an exclusive offer just for you, via the Nintendo eShop. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products. XiC Oh so we’re talking about Nintendo in all regions? Then once again what is Nintendo rising from the ash from? It has dominated in worldwide and in general thanks to its DS and 3DS handhelds and strong software sales. Dear Mr.Iwata you can keep your Big Brain Academy, I hope you use it so that you become more receptive and maybe even knowledgeable about the multinational corporation you supposedly lead. starwars360 Incorrect. Go play baby games in children shop and buy one for yourself. 🙂 XiC Ugh yeah. Coming from the guy who thought this is the real Iwata this really is meaningless. Daniel Gonzalez I think he means the Wii U, and not the 3DS. That’s what the article pertains to. Nintendo hasn’t dominated North America or Europe with the Wii U, just Japan. In general? No, that would mean that the Wii U would be dominating as well. You’re a little misinformed. XiC …My first comment towards him was about the Wii U and its sales in all regions. He corrects me saying he means Nintendo in general in all regions. I then bring up the rest of the Nintendo products and ask him again where in you correct me saying he means the Wii U. Lmao, how stupid is that? I’m not misinformed, you’re just lost. Daniel Gonzalez Since he’s commenting on an article that relates to the Wii U, it’s obvious he was talking about the sales regionally. You’re the one lost dude, lol. Let’s not kid ourselves here. You took it too literal when you added in the 3DS. Regardless on how you put it, you took it to heart considering you commented back at him. i just call it like I see it. Either way, you’re annoyed at his comments and you allow yourself to fall right into it. Chillax. 🙂 XiC Have you read my first comment? I talked about that. He said that wasn’t it. Yet somehow I’m lost when you’re telling me you know better than what he said so himself? Lmao, you’re a joke. Daniel Gonzalez Where was he talking about 3ds? Lol. Exactly, you’re the joke here. You apparently missed the point. Also, he never stated nor answered anything about the 3DS, so that made no sense. So perhaps learn to read and less on insults. Unless that’s too hard for you to do. 🙂 XiC “I’m very sorry my honorable fan, but I was talking about Nintendo in all regions, not just Japan.” Nintendo = Wii U? Lmao read scrub. Sales from all regions other than Japan are on a stable decline so is that what he meant by “rising from the ashes”? Lmao, so you have one idiot who’s clueless and role playing while another idiot is out to be the white knight. That’s just hilarious :]. Daniel Gonzalez LOL. White Knight, very original. Like I said, anyone with a brain knows who is the the scrub here.:) The one who gets upset in a forum over a dude who just impersonates, whether badly or not, isn’t hurting the site. Again, where in that does it talk about the 3DS in which you just brought up? Exactly, again, you fail to answer the question. Nice job contradicting yourself. You’re a done deal and you have nothing left to defend yourself with. I discuss while you throw the insults out because someone calls you out for being misinformed. I guess some people have too much pride to admit that. 🙂 Not surprised. You’re not worth an extra reply, so don’t waste your time after this. You’ve been exposed as all talk. Here’s some advice.More talk and less insults, and maybe people will take you more seriously. Good day to you sir. 🙂 XiC Sorry, can’t bother reading your BS :]. Super Mario I’ve been reading this whole thing and sorry dude, but you come off as a douche just for someone calling you misinformed. LOL. That’s hilarious. It’s funny how people like you get so riled up just for someone calling you out. No wonder I rarely comment here. People like you get so bent out of shape because your pride has been hurt. Get over it. It’s the internet. 😀 You and bizzy gie will get along just fine. ^___^ XiC LOL, no one could argue a single fact. No sales numbers, statistics, analytic, etc. I call a poser out on their ignorance, they can’t answer because they’re wrong but that’s irrelevant in the face of perceptions. Whatever, supposedly I’m “bent out of shape” because of how I write. Funny :], I’m not losing any sleep over this. Oh, I took a peek. You’ve come to the defense of the impersonators before as well. Geez, I wonder why :]. 00EpicGamer00 You’re “bent out of shape” because you’re being rude to someone, who’s trying to have some fun. What’s wrong with pretending to be someone? Is that like, against the law now? People aren’t allowed to have fun anymore? And besides, what do you have against him? Who cares if he’s pretending to be Iwata. Like I said, he’s just doing it for fun. Oh wait, I guess where you’re from, there’s no such thing as the word “fun”. XiC Oh hey, I remember you. I corrected you before when Truthteller was trolling you. There’s no law against trolling so why did you get so upset over that? People aren’t allowed to have fun anymore? Are you going to tell me what you said wasn’t “rude” :]? The impersonator said something false, I had an issue with that. Truthteller said something false, you had an issue with that. Yet I’m a villain because I believe facts are important huh? It looks to me that as long as incorrect statements align positively with Nintendo, they’re perfectly fine. Now looking back to your incorrect comment, it has five likes. Ignorance is indeed bliss :]. 00EpicGamer00 I got “upset” over that because he was being REALLY negative (and just plain stupid), on some good news How am I being the rude one? You’re the one being a jerk to that Iwata guy. Like I said, who cares if he’s pretending to be him? What did the impersonator say that was false? All I can see is you’re confused on the whole “phoenix rising up out of the ashes” bit. Truthteller says things that are false EVER SINGLE TIME. He’s a troll that has nothing better to do. The Iwata impersonator guy, is just doing something that he thinks is fun. Is he hating on Nintendo and saying “Nintendo is dooomed!”? No, he does not say those things. Does he say things that are true about Nintendo? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. He’ll sometimes like to far fetch it a bit, but he’s not a troll, that says things that are 100% false. You seem to not know the difference between a troll, and (I’m reeeallly tired of saying this but) someones who’s having a bit of fun. Is the Iwata guy making people angry? No, he is not, so he’s not a troll. A troll is someone who makes people angry on purpose. I just don’t see the problem you have with him. XiC Oh so you weren’t rude to Truthteller, is that what you’re saying? You called him retarded based on a mistake you had with the numbers. If that isn’t rude if not obnoxious then I don’t see how what I’m saying as rude either. The Wii U hasn’t done better in the past six months, it has been on a steady decline. The rest of Nintendo (which has generally been high) has been on a steady rise however and nothing indicates a “rise from the ashes”. I don’t see how I’m confused on this when I can pull up data and prove this. But okay you tell me what it’s about. I can tell you Truthteller was doing something he thought of as fun. That should be obvious enough. You don’t see my problem because you’ve missed the point. Whether they’re a troll or an impersonator it doesn’t matter. As I’ve said… “If you’re going to try and role play as a great man such as Iwata then at least be knowledgeable about the company he runs.” What matters is if they’re correct or not. The impersonator as he has done so many times before is not and is fueling ignorance. Do you want other examples? By the way trolls by definition are provocative. They’re out to incite emotions and attract attention. These emotions include but are not limited to anger. It is not that I do not know the difference, I just don’t wrongly interpret the definition as “makes people angry on purpose” which would be what flaming is. 00EpicGamer00 You’re not that bright, are you? Truthteller is a troll (how do you not know this?) It doesn’t matter if people are “rude”, “mean”, or “cruel” to him, because he deserves it. And besides, that’s the reactions that he wants, so it doesn’t matter how rude we are to him. Also, why are YOU defending him, hmmmm? And yes, you are still wrong about “Phoenix rising from the ashes”. What he meant was the Wii U, you know, the game drought. The Wii U is finally slowly getting out of the game drought. And is starting to get some sales in again. That’s what he was referring to numskull. And no sh*t Truthteller was doing something that was fun to him. Once again, his fun is trolling people, making them angry. I am curious why you’re defending him so much? I’ve missed your point? Lol, I don’t think you ever had a point, you were arguing with him for no reason, whatsoever. Then when someone says you’re misinformed, and tries to explain why, you go all “I’m not reading this BS” I mean really? Who cares if he’s not correct 100% of the time. You must not know what the word “fun” means. So, how is the Iwata guy being a troll? He’s not making anyone mad, or upset about anything. You seem to be the only person who find a problem with him. Which, I just don’t see why. He’s CLEARLY not bothering anybody. Or making ludicrous statements. If the only reason why you hate him is because he says things that “aren’t” true. Then you should hate Nintendo, and other video game companies all together. Nintendo has said things that aren’t true. Most commonly release dates of games. XiC Your interpretation is terrifying absurd. It really shouldn’t surprise me after the first time I corrected you though. Here’re your mistakes from that last comment alone. I’m not defending Truthteller, how could this possibly be a defense? Did I once say he was right? Your idiocy is amazing. I’m only using him as an example to run through your own criteria but you’ve managed to interpret that as a defense? Hilarious. The impersonator did not mean the games because I asked him twice and mentioned all major types of products Nintendo offered. Besides that all these games were announced months upon months ago. You’re so incredibly ignorant to miss that and yet once again slander another based on your own mistake. “People aren’t allowed to have fun anymore?” He was trolling for fun. Why even ask me such a dumb question when you can’t even accept another doing it. Yes, you missed my point. You thought my issue was that he is impersonating as your comments have shown. Lmao, your first comment says nothing about my point. Daniel missed my point as well and I knew that so there was nothing left to say. As I’ve said do you want examples where he was utterly wrong? You have not read all his comments yet you’re so quick to judge as if you have. Oh he’s not bothering anyone? There’s at least one other person who’s talked back in this article. Read through his comment history, I’m not the first to call him out by far. I don’t hate the impostor. Why would I have such strong negative feelings towards someone that I have said only a few sentences too? Regardless you believe I should hate Nintendo now because of this? Lmao, I have an issue with people intentionally spreading ignorance not a multinational corporation that has unfortunately failed to deliver. It is nowhere near the same. Whereas Nintendo will do its best to meet deadlines, some of the things this impostor has said could have been easily right had he taken the seconds to check. How many more mistakes are you going to make huh? You’re incredibly opinionated, hypocritical, and have a complete lack of sense. Enjoy your ignorance, it won’t be forgiving once you’ve matured. 00EpicGamer00 Wow, so just because I made one little mistake in the past, I’m somehow a retard? I think you’re the one that one that needs to mature, child. Once again, the Iwata guy is not trolling in any way, you just have a problem with him, which doesn’t make any sense. Why so much rage over something so small? You seem to not be very matured youself, saying things like “i’m not reading that BS” and calling people names just proves your immaturity. Heck, you’re probably the most immature person here. Since, when people try to explain something to you, you get all butthurt cause you were wrong. Which it’s true. You were arguing with this guy for no reason. What was the whole point? Why don’t you just admit that you misunderstood what he meant? Which, you REALLY did. You never explained to me how this Iwata guy is spreading ignorance. Like I said, you don’t know what fun is apparently. I forgot every human being on this earth must be as serious as possible. No, jokes, no nothing. What a sad life to live. Umm, you are defending Truthteller, it’s very obvious. Just the way you worded it, sounded as if you wanted to make me feel bad. Wow, ONE other person had a problem with him? Holy crap! I didn’t know he had so many people that hated him! Man, he must be a troll then if he has one person that hates him xD Fail moment sir, very fail moment for you. You don’t hate the impostor? Like I believe that xD Why so much hate towards him then? If you didn’t hate him, then you wouldn’t be calling him names. And being a big fat jerk to him. You really don’t know the difference between trolling, and playing around. You really need to research that. Oh wait, you’re too unintelligent to know how to google something. So I guess I need to give the definitions for you. “A troll”, is someone that enjoys other peoples misery, and likes to make it worse. And likes to spread LOTS of negativity around. “Playing around”, is when you’re just, you know, goofing around, not being serious, just having a fun time. This “Iwata guy” is just goofing around. He’s not being serious, just having a fun time. But for some reason, people like you seem to hate people that are just playing around. So, with that, I bid ado to this….uhh…very “interesting” conversation. XiC I never called you a retard. I never said the impostor is trolling. I’m not raging. I’ve told you he’s spreading ignorance, he’s said in the past Nintendo is doing fantastic pertaining to the Wii U, he’s said Nintendo is working to acquire the Megaman franchise, the Wii U is “flawless”, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze is cancelled for Metroid X, etc. If you can’t even be bothered to look into anything then there’s nothing to be said. I’m not even going to bother reading the rest, you’re jumping to conclusions on everything I’ve said and interpreting things incorrectly. It’s not immaturity that keeps me from reading it’s the maturity to understand that I’m wasting time on someone who’s opinion won’t sway. TL:DR You’re putting words in my mouth. If you can’t read what I’ve said for what it literally is I can’t be bothered to waste more time. 00EpicGamer00 Uh, yeah you did call me a retard. So you think saying “your idiocy is amazing” is not calling me retarded? The term “idiot” is just another word for retard. So don’t even try to back out of that one. “I never said the imposter is trolling”. Oh my….you know you said this, right? “He was trolling for fun. Why even ask me such a dumb question when you can’t even accept another doing it.” You seem to think here that the Iwata guy is trolling for fun, which he ISN’T! He’s not trolling at all. You just contradicted yourself here. “I’m not going to bother reading the rest”. First of all it’s obvious you read the rest or you wouldn’t be able to say “you’re jumping to conclusions on everything I’ve said”. Second of all, why? Because I proved you wrong? Like I said, you’re mad at him for no reason. You clearly misunderstood what he meant. So quit trying to be a jerk and accept the fact that you were wrong. It isn’t that big of a deal to admit you were confused with what he said. I can’t believe it’s taking so many people to get that through that thick skull of yours. XiC An idiotic comment ≠ a retarded person. Trolling ≠ Flaming. You somehow believe these are the same however. But sure go on and continue to stretch the truth and jump to conclusions. How do I know this? You show your DS stance instantly by using questions to try and reason that you’re correct. By “He”, I was referring to TruthTeller and the last comment. I clearly said why ask if you can’t accept another (underline that) doing it. Lmao, this has gotten off topic to the point where I need to point out definitions, and grammar. I didn’t read the rest, I don’t have OCD. I wasn’t wrong he said a lot that wasn’t true or are you telling me the list of examples I’ve given out are indeed true? You’ve made a list of errors and mistakes with your interpretation. You’ve claimed I’ve said so many things I have not. Your opinion would matter more if you weren’t so ignorant. Lol, are you going to interpret that as retarded too? Okay, so what am I wrong about? Nothing. Has Nintendo risen from the metaphorical “ashes”? No, data from Famitsu proves that. Does the impostor have comments that are lies or false? Yes, all the proof you need is in his comment history. You people have lost focus of the issue and are focused on impostors being fine, my mannerisms, and supposed rage. Read the comments again if you doubt that. Even now you’re saying those same things. Like I said, I’m wasting my time on you. You’re stuck on all the wrong issues, you haven’t said a thing about the imposer’s BS comments, and you’re so sure that your interpretations are correct despite how many times I’ve shown you they’re not. You’re feeble regardless of what else I point out so no thank you, I’m done with another scrub :]. 00EpicGamer00 Lol xD What do you mean “done with another scrub”? Who says I’m done with you }:) DS stance? Well…I do have DS (and a 3DS) but I don’t think that’s appropriate for the situation at hand. Oh, so now people aren’t allowed to ask questions? You need to go and lie down or something. You don’t understand, child. When that guy said “rising from the ashes”. He meant the Wii U’s game drought. Where it barely had any sales. You seem to not understand this. I’m sorry dear fellow, but ignorant, retarded, and stupid are all the same thing. It’s this amazing word called a synonym, you should look into it. Oh wait, you can’t, you appear to not know how to use google :O Here let me help you dear child: Stupid: Lacking intelligence, or common sense. Retarded: Less advanced, especially mentally, than is usual for one’s age. (Just another word for stupid) Ignorant: Lacking of knowledge, or awareness in general; uneducated, or unsophisticated. (just another word for stupid) These 3 words are SYNONYMS. The definition of a synonym is: A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language. What has the imposer said that was…*ehem* “BS”? Nothing really, you’re just being a jerk to him for no reason. Once again, either you give me reason why, or you’re just one of of those people that wanna fight for no reason. Once again, WHY DO YOU CARE IF HE’S PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE!? Sorry about the Caps Lock but you just don’t know what I’m saying. Why does it matter to you? Why do you care if he’s not 100% right all the time? Like I’ve been saying, he’s an average guy, trying to have a bit of fun. But for some reason, to you, the word “fun” means trolling. There’s a difference between trolling, and having fun. When did I ever say you have OCD? Now you’re trying to put words in my mouth I never said? What a sad child you are. Trying to make me believe I said that to you. This is just getting ridiculous and funny xD XiC Ok :]. 00EpicGamer00 Yaaaay 😀 XiC K :]. Satoru Iwata As the westerners say…..”You mad bro? Why so mad?” Please understand, that you lack a sense of humor which we frown on in Nintendo. We feel very sorry for you. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products. XiC I’m actually inclined to believe you two are the same people judging by the white knight action stick and general level of stupidity. I’m not mad, how can I be at this point? I’m dealing with an idiot who’s terri-bad at role playing. Lmao, your life is depressing. Satoru Iwata Please understand, that you lack no humor of sense. I can tell that you haven’t had enough Nintendo in your life, so we will continue to bring you the best games we have to offer. We aren’t responsible for your incompetence. If you have an issue with Nintendo, then please notify Reggie. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products. XiC I appreciate Nintendo enough, I just can’t appreciate your idiocy :]. starwars360 Is he real Iwata? I hope someone not make name using his and photo and being pretend as him. I hope he is real. If he is real. Look forward his games in upcoming Wii U releases like Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, The Wind Waker HD and more. Pikmin 3 and New Super Luigi U out tomorrow. 🙂 John Raybell are you freaking kidding me. facepalm, NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE REAL, They are all fakes, and really bothersome at times Daniel Gonzalez You’re a small minority then. Don’t see how you and others just can’t learn to ignore them like the trolls. You only fuel them when you show it bothers you. Personally speaking, they’re not bothering most here. Relax. Mario they don’t bother me at all. In fact, I rather listen to these guys then trolls. Daniel Gonzalez True story. All they do is impersonate, which isn’t against the law and even comedians impersonate others. People get upset over the smallest things. These guys are better than most people in here putting down Nintendo any chance they get, but I digress. starwars360 I just said I wonder. Sometime internet people making trouble to others. So I just want know if he is real and being user here like us. I really like know if real or fake this why. 🙂 John Raybell the real people are to busy to sit on here all day long, not a single one is real. thats just how it is, people things is funny or fun, but in the end its just strange John Raybell Get a life, for real dude, jesus christ some people these days Satoru Iwata Hello honorable gamer, I’m sorry you are very upset. Perhaps you should calm down and live life a little before calling me, Iwata a man with no life. It’s okay. Please understand,to help you calm your nerves, you will receive a free copy of New Super Luigi U so you can manage that anger of yours. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products. XiC Same thing twice. You aren’t even witty and of course can’t answer what you meant by ashes. Satoru Iwata Please understand, you are still very upset. I suggest Pikmin 3 would be perfect for you. With any luck, you’ll learn to appreciate Nintendo much more. Thank you for supporting Nintendo and its products. XiC I should have just read some of your other comments first. The sheer amount of ignorance and idiocy should have made the joke clear enough :]. Daniel Gonzalez I think it’s obvious that he isn’t taking this serious. I don’t think it’s necessary for him to impersonate him completely, that would kinda ruin the fun in it. Personally, I find it amusing and don’t really take it serious at all. It’s better than dozen of trolls flaming Nintendo left and right. XiC He wants to call himself Iwata and write down gibberish. I don’t see how this poor impersonation comes down as funny. What he is doing is misleading readers with opinions and facts that aren’t true. You might find this better than trolling but I don’t. Daniel Gonzalez Well my friend, he isn’t really breaking any rules, otherwise, he’d be off this site by now. Far as I know only a few people have had problems with him. Whether you think he’s a nuisance is your opinion. For me, he doesn’t bother me much and it’s quite clear that people know he isn’t the real Iwata. You’re taking it too literal. Lol. No offense. Best to ignore it if it bothers you. XiC Someone asked if he’s the real Iwata. You give the intelligence of people too much credit on this site. Daniel Gonzalez Lol. Nowhere did I say that they were intelligent for believing he is. If they think he is, then that’s their personal problem, such as your problem with an Iwata impersonator. EIther way, no one is dying from this. Mario Right… Ony That’s one big Wii U Gamepad in that picture :3 John Raybell Ok so its selling better then ps3 was, so where is the support, i really hope we get more support, if not then i guess so be it, will just play my first party games and cry but ill be happy about it lol Just got done playing a little super Luigi u, me and my brother die allot, but its been great, and we both love the challenge, hope mario world 3d is just as fun if not more fun Zuxs13 Nothing too surprising and nothing too special. At least its not terrible boynhisblobs If I’m not mistaken, it took Xbox 360 a year to achieve this and it was a worldwide figure, not just japan. I’m not sure if 360 has even reached 1 million in japan yet. springer85 LMFAO nice try ninty slurper 360 sold nearly 6 million in its first year and 4.5 million of those were in the USA!! 00EpicGamer00 You’re incorrect again. The Xbox 360 sold 5,930,609 units in it’s first year. NOT 6 MILLION! That’s barely close to 6 million. 4.5 million of those sales were in America? That REALLY shows how intelligent America is, then (sarcasm.) Zombie Boy “While the original Xbox sold poorly in Japan, selling just 2 million units while it was on the market (between 2002 and 2005), the Xbox 360 performed even more poorly, selling only 1.5 million units between 2005 to 2011.” – Wikipedia boynhisblobs I’m not sure where these numbers are coming from. As someone who literally remembers when it came out, there was a shortage of 360s for the first year. I don’t think they even made 5,930,609 units in the first year. They launched with only 400,000 units available for the whole world. Just google it, not too tough these days. 00EpicGamer00 I did look it up…..Maybe the site wasn’t totally correct, but I got it from Yahoo answers 😛 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080223175021AAxoUZh boynhisblobs Ah, yahoo answers where anybody can write anything and say its correct. =) I think a lot of people get confused between # of units sold and sales figures, ie dollars. Either way, its really hard to compare a 2006 console launch to a 2012 console launch. So many different factors to take account for like mobile and tablet gaming and the number of devices that play games available on the market. Zombie Boy Did Daddy teach you the word ‘slurper’ when he made you suck his cock? Go on, you can tell us. springer85 LMFAO!!! Wii U 10 months on sale in Japan 1 million Wii first 10 months in japan……….7 million!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Zombie Boy You’re a moron. springer85 Awww is your Wii U dying? LOL Zombie Boy I’m not talking about consoles. I’m talking about you. You’re an idiot. springer85 Aww just as I am telling the truth about Nintendo’s pathetic console you Ninty slurpers cannot handle it!! You bought a console that has 6 year old graphics of the ps3!! LMAO Zombie Boy No, you don’t understand. I’m not talking about consoles. I’m talking about you. You are a sad, pathetic loser who has nothing better to do than try to make other’s lives as miserable as your own. springer85 LMFAO Nintendo is failing!!everyone else in the world can see this past year that is the case, the only people who dare to believe it are Ninty slurpers!!! LOL Zombie Boy Wow, you really are a dumbass, aren’t you? For the third time, I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT CONSOLES. I’M TALKING ABOUT YOU. How thick are you??? Zombie Boy There we have it folks. Proof that trolls can’t deal with the truth. springer85 LMFAO!!!!!get real you lame ninty cry baby, I went to the shops!! Aww just as you bought a fisher price plastic kids toy at $350 only $50 less than a true next gen ps4!!! BWAHAHAHA Zombie Boy Good comeback. It only took you an hour. So as I was saying, I’m not talking about consoles. I’m talking about you. How’s puberty going for you? Badly, I presume. John Raybell i swear this person what ever is a BOT, kinda strange guys John Raybell lol, really, last i checked its better then both xbox360ps3, when you see what it can really do your going to cry. 00EpicGamer00 Listen, buddy….I don’t know if you have the ability to read, but the Wii U hasn’t been out for 10 months. Why do you keep copying and pasting this? Also, you REALLY need to get your Caps Lock fixed. Also, judging by the maturity of your posts….are you like 8 or 10 years old? No wait, you’re probably one of those 12 year old jerks who yells at their mom to get you juice, because you’re too lazy to get up and get it yourself cause you’re playing COD. What a way to live (sarcasm) 😛 Also, ummm… springer85 3DS……EPIC WII U……………….Most pathetic home console from Nintendo like ever!!!! LOL Zombie Boy I was talking to you but you ran away. So I’m trying to figure out why you act this way. Did Daddy molest you? Did you enjoy it? William Cole On the same track that PS3 was on. Wii U has work to do still. I hope Mario and Donkey Kong can pull off a successful year. Nicholas John Hilzinger fuck the haters. i swear its like a dam conspiracy against nintendo everywhere you look. fuck off.