Today Ubisoft has revealed their lineup of games to be showcased at Gamescom this year. Gamescom is an industry show that takes place between August 13 to August 17 in Cologne, Germany this year. The lineup for Ubisoft includes several already announced games, as well as a few that haven’t been announced for PC. The real kicker here is that despite the lineup, there is absolutely no mention of Watch Dogs for Wii U. The last statement we had about the game came from the game’s senior producer, Dominic Guay. According to him, the game was still being developed but did not have a solid release date. Yeah it’s still alive. We still haven’t defined a ship date for it, though. So it’s on hold, to a certain extent for shipping. We don’t have a specific ship date for it yet so it’s considered within the year. So we’re going to look at that and we’re going to let people know as soon as we figure out an exact date for it. This statement was made back in March, before the game released on May 27 across all other platforms. With Watch Dogs being a no show at Gamescom, we’re starting to wonder whether or not Ubisoft will be releasing the game within the 2014 year. If they plan on releasing it during the busy fall schedule, it will be going up against titles like Bayonetta 2 and Super Smash Bros., making it almost instantly a flop for people who may have already played the game on other consoles. Either way, the lack of Watch Dogs at Gamescom leads us to believe this probably won’t be hitting the Wii U until 2015. local_offer gamescom gamescom 2014 Nintendo ubisoft wii u stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when Negatron99 Wouldn’t it be better just to have an article when something is mentioned about it? It’s kinda getting old. YappysDogTreats Hey Ubi, if you’re going to port a game to Wii U, it should be the Scott Pilgrim game. That thing needs to be on a nintendo platform. Mr Ninty if it doesn’t come out this year. then they can shove it up there ass. Bob Wilkerson Of course not.. Why would they want to promote their game on a Nintendo platform.. I mean then maybe it would sell. Not as well as if they promoted it and released it along side the other versions but it surely couldn’t hurt. I have come to the conclusion that most 3rd parties do not want their games to sell well on Nintendo platforms which is why they have intentionally gimped, stripped of features, and/or delayed games ONLY on the Wii U since the Wii U was launched. If they gave their games equal treatment that included the full game and extras and proper promotion they would have nothing to complain about Christian Schoff F*** these guys. PS4WiiURocks I’ll pass..Ubisoft is now dead to me just like EA Shaise WHAT THE??? You’re arrogant you know that? EA only gave the Wii U five games so I understand that. Ubisoft gave them an exclusive title, they didn’t lose faith, they gave them more titles and more, they were pretty much the only ones supporting. But, still supporting Wii U hasn’t paid off. They’re losing money. Nintendo must work on this. You’re just being a fanboy. The games aren’t selling on Wii U, if you had a family business, would you want to spend millions and millions on putting a game on Wii U, when a game will not sell well on it? So you’re making a loss and no profit? Would you like that? Ubisoft can’t sacrifice themselves just for Nintendo. This is coming from a me, a Nintendo fan who likes the Wii U (and has one) :-). Masha’Allah. PS4WiiURocks Me a fanboy ..You are one arrogant B i own all the console and really name calling now get over yourself fanboy..loser! So take a look in the mirror and have yourself a nice day..:) SirajQ The grammar is real. PS4WiiURocks Oh but it is but thanks for playing PS4WiiURocks Meh! ActivesiN go choke on a dick ubisoft matthew garcia A big fat hairy one Epicstuf A small one. This caveman’s one. http://youtu.be/xadom9_2yMA Ducked You shouldn’t write immature comments like that to take out your anger . They’re doing what’s best for business. leafsfan73 I’d never happen ’cause they’d keep waiting for a bigger one to choke on…… ActivesiN ha! Negatron99 Released 10 years late …. UBISoft: “Nya… See told you the platform was rubbish, not the game’s fault it didn’t sell, see… see… not our fault… see… ha….”. D.M.T Why do you keep writing articles about games skipping Wii U or games being a no show at gaming events? It’s better to write articles only when devs say something about the Wii U. We don’t need articles like “AC Rogue is skipping Wii U” because Ubisoft never said that it’s possible that we could get the next AC game. Daniel Gonzalez They write them because you fall right into the trap of commenting on them, like we all do. There’s a reason why there’s more comments on these articles than the average. Why would they stop what drives up their revenue? matthew garcia Do these types of sites have a quota they have to meet on comments? Daniel Gonzalez Who knows. One thing is for sure, is that these articles are written in a way to rile up readers. Well, the ones that get easily offended anyway. It’s a tired formula, but it works. matthew garcia Yeah it seems like every ign article is about 1080p wars lol Daniel Gonzalez IGN is basically the major leagues. Thomas Vienna I should imagine that the companies advertising here are happier when more people comment on a page their product is displayed on. D.M.T For once you’re right. I need to stop commenting on these articles. Too bad that others will continue to fall into the trap. bistricky Oh Ubisoft …. nothing surprises me anymore about you ….. Remember this exclusive …. LOL ….. Bob Wilkerson Well that is because ZombiU did not sell 1 million copies at launch so 2 months into the Wii U’s life Ubisoft along with others declared it a failure and started gimping, delaying, and canceling games. And even after this game was delayed so it could be made for other platforms and sold pretty evenly across all platforms it was still Nintendo’s fault that the game did not sell well and all future games from Ubisoft and 3rd parties are destined to be doomed because Nintendo and it’s audience is not what 3rd parties are marketing for Epicstuf Not true. Bob Wilkerson What’s not true? The fact that Ubisoft announced Rayman would be delayed to be made for other platforms? That vast amount of 3rd party games made for the Wii U since launch have been delayed, late ports, or gimped/stripped of features in some way? The fact that 3rd parties will promote the hell out of their games on other platforms but when it comes to Nintendo they want Nintendo to advertise their games for them? Please elaborate because all I have said has happened from Ubisoft and other major 3rd parties since the Wii U hit the shelves. Epicstuf Ubisoft also gave the shares of Wii U and 3DS and they didn’t sell well. Why? Most of the games were shameless ports (except for a few) such as Rayman 3D, Splinter Cell 3D and Rabbids 3D. That’s a reason why most people steered away. Most games were ported all ready to modern consoles. matthew garcia I think it’s been Nintendo’s fault since n64. Developers wanted to develop for CD and Nintendo went with the cartridge with its limited space and not as good of sound. Then with the GameCube they gave the console the right amount of power but still went with the mini disk with its limited space. Then the Wii got 3rd party support but since it was way underpowered it would get games like cabelas real hunting or paint ball lol. Now with the Wii u its system architecture was built so differently then the ps4 and Xbox all the games Wii u gets are bad ports. I think it’s Nintendo’s fault Jonathan Robitaille Nintendo is most at fault. I used to blame 3rd parties but really you have to understand their motives and once you do you’ll see that Nintendo could have prevented this. Like you said, going with cartridges, going with mini discs, going with motion controls, going with the 2nd screen and different architecture. Time after time Nintendo has chosen to be different enough that it requires 3rd party to adjust to them. Now this wouldn’t be a problem if the third parties understood this and rose to the challenge and made a quality product. When they have in the past they’ve been rewarded with decent sales. But their mentality is too short term. They don’t understand how to build up a franchise aimed at the Nintendo audience. Rayman is an excellent example. If they had kept Rayman Legends an exclusive, and it’s sequels, more and more exposure would have led to more sales. Maybe they are rewarded with a Smash Brothers character which brings in more attention and fans. But instead, they not only aren’t cultivating a following from Nintendo fans, they are slowly but surely losing any Rayman fans or momentum. Rayman Legend sales overall were awful. I’d be surprised if they even make another. But still, Nintendo has to know this about 3rd parties so it’s up to them to make a console that gives them a path of least resistance if they want their games on their systems. But really, I have a feeling that Nintendo really couldn’t care less about 3rd party. Otherwise, why keep doing the same thing and expecting different results? Isn’t that the definition of insanity? lol matthew garcia Yeah Nintendo just needs to find that right balance in there next console. Different enough to be unique but with the hardware that 3rd parties would develop for Bob Wilkerson Still think the Wii U was as step in that direction. Most games you can control using different methods and controllers and the gamepad is functionally equivilant to a pro controller with the only drawback I can see is the battery life. The move to x86 by Sony and Microsoft hurt Nintendo because now that is an excuse to add to the list of excuses from third parties despite that many are having similar difficulties and delays on making their games work on the XB1 and PS4 due to it’s limited power compared to a PC. I understand Nintendo is part of the blame but I find it hard to sympathize with 3rd parties this time around because since launch day one they proclaimed the Wii U was a failure and immediately started canceling, delaying, or gimping their games on the console. It would be truly difficult to find any game that was released as a multiplat that was NOT gimped or delayed in some fashion on the Wii U. Had they given their games a fair chance on the Wii U from the start I would be more sympathetic to their reasoning but it seems that they are willing to make full games and promote them on other platforms but they want Nintendo to do the promotion on the Wii U versions and they expect gamers to not be upset when they hear a game has been gimped or delayed on one platform and make a choice to get it on another platform for the same price. matthew garcia Honestly I don’t think it matters to 3rd parties either way cuz there money is made on the PlayStation and Xbox. It’s Not like they feel bad whether there games succeed or not on Wii u cuz It makes them no money. There success Is elsewhere Bob Wilkerson Which is sad because they are willing to continue to alienate and blame gamers on one platform when with a little effort they could have more success on all platforms. matthew garcia There not the ones complaining it’s us on this comment board complaining. I really doubt they care from a business perspective. The only ones who argue about it is us Bob Wilkerson Sure they are… They just do it through their press releases and information they give to bloggers when they go on about their game not selling well never acknowledging it was gimped and/or delayed and never promoted like those things have nothing to do with impacting their sales. matthew garcia Yeah Activision says that while they laugh at Wii u and make a 900 million dollar profit this past quarter cuz of Xbox and PlayStation. Trust me they don’t care if there games sales on Wii u Rinslowe This is true. There have been numerous examples since Wii U’s launch where Publishers/ Studio Execs and Developers have all slandered the company the hardware or the policies. Whatever it really means, well, who cares. But they have been vocal. Jonathan Robitaille I’d bet anything that the real crux of the issue is that Sony and Microsoft massage these guys either financially, with more advertising, placement on their eshops, or flat out pay for their services (no exclusivity but like a backdoor agreement) whereas Nintendo does not. Didn’t Sony and Microsoft seek out 3rd party input when designing their consoles? Nintendo would never in a million years lol Bob Wilkerson Sony and Microsoft do pay for cross promotional advertising which is not always a bad thing. And yes they did seek input from 3rd parties on a new console and they pretty much said make it like a PC because that is easier to develop for. The problem is there hasn’t been much evidence of that being so true as both 1st and 3rd party games on those consoles are having their difficulties and delays about issues getting their games working properly too. Turns out no matter what hardware is in the platform it takes work and time to make the game work well and there is no magic easy button to get their game from PC to a console Rinslowe The western gaming industry is an entitlement grab right now. It has been since about halfway through last generation. With gaming engine designers playing big business to studio’s and developers attempting to dictate what hardware they would prefer to work on, to bring their dreams to fruition. Alternatively here we have Nintendo who never outsources game engines but prefers to tailor each one to the game itself internally. And has a design focus more on the experience than the hardware powering it. (And yet still there are some out there that always mistake that focus as “hardware” not being important to them at all, which of course is not the case). Their games always sell better on their hardware and it makes it difficult for third parties on average to profit. Nintendo is the odd man out in the gaming scene. They create great experiences, but their platforms have become less and less viable for the majority of third party companies to develop for as the returns are just not there. They tailor make their hardware to suit their internal development model more so than any other. And they don’t pay for timed exclusive content on multiplats like Sony and MS – probably because their internal studio’s and second party make up the main slab of their software sales. And they just don’t see the benefits in shelling out for it, when the returns are equally low for them. It’s not hard to see why there’s so much misunderstanding regarding Nintendo and how they choose to operate. But it does seem unnecessary when players in the industry take it personally and slander those policies and protocols which Nintendo operates by. Jonathan Robitaille that’s why I think Nintendo just pays us lip service when it comes to 3rd party. They prefer it this way and won’t bow to outside pressures to conform to the standard. Almost every decision they make these last few gens has been in the face of the conventional and they know the ramifications of their actions. The Wii U, and programming in HD took them by surprise. They have admitted that. I am sure they felt they could go it alone if not for that. If they had launched with SM3DW and then had their 1st party games staggered two months apart from launch on they’d be in a much different place regardless of their name, price, competitors. Quicksilver88 Well the gimped part is mostly true but there are a few good multiplats/ports that deserve mention: Rayman (made for WiiU), AC4 (solid port with all features minus DLC), BatmanAC, NFSMW, Deus EX those are alll games that in most cases are better than the ps360 versions. Also there are other games that are worthwhile even though gimped or no DLC. Many games like COD and SplinterCell are decent ports and can be had for under $20. Sill I wish more devs/pubs would do quality work like first games I mentioned. Jonathan Robitaille but will they? I would have thought the Wii U was going to be that. People sometimes say that this is Nintendo being Nintendo. It’s like they don’t think that magic is possible without some quirkiness. I call bullshit on that. If the Wii U had the same specs as a PS4 it would allow that magic to shine even more. Rinslowe Even if Wii U had as much grunt as a high spec gaming PC, third parties still wouldn’t develop for it in no’s. They’d still need to contend with Nintendo’s first party titles having the majority of sales. They’d still need to figure out a way to get Nintendo’s console owners to buy more third party content. And it wouldn’t be a guarantee that any of the so called “hardcore” gamers would invest in that console either… matthew garcia I’m not sure if it’s 3rd parties or Nintendo who has to figure it out. I mean Nintendo is selling a lot less this gen then last so there is definitely a problem cuz Wii u game sales aren’t much to compete with lately besides Mario kart which is doing great. I think it’s just from the bad history Nintendo has provided 3rd party developers for the past 18 years. That 3rd party hate has grown strong after that long Rinslowe I don’t think there is any real “hate” or “dislike” as some would like to believe. I think if third party games didn’t have to contend with first in the way they do on Nintendo platforms, then the sales would be there, the audience would be there as well – as we can all see on MS and Sony platforms. And third parties would only care that their games are selling well and revenue is being generated. Simple as that. What you’re describing really is too personal for an industry wide phenomenon to exist in business. And sure many dev’s have been vocal on Nintendo’s policies in the past both positive and negative. But again, it all comes down to “are their games selling…” It’s a problem both Nintendo and Third parties need to solve. matthew garcia Yeah I see what your saying but 3ds gets great. 3rd party support while competing with 1st party. Games like bravely default from square is a great game, but yeah 3ds sales a crap load more Rinslowe They’re two different systems. Two different models. It’s not just the hardware type though or the install base. It’s what the competitors are doing and the relevant market share they command on certain genres of game that impacts how Nintendo home consoles are received. Based on the types of experiences they typically focus on and the types primarily provided by third parties on competitors hardware. If Nintendo and third parties could solve the issue that has become standard whereby the majority of Nintendo console owners go to their hardware for first party exclusives more so than anything else, there would not be such an issue. This is again, partly to do with how the competition has secured certain genre’s that appeal to certain crowds which moved away from Nintendo consoles generally speaking and helped to create this phenomenon. To date there really hasn’t been a “dedicated” hardware answer to Nintendo’s handheld market share and the types of games people prefer to play on the go in no’s. As we can see with the Vita, the no of people willing to experience console level experiences or AAA like titles with a “hardcore” like focus is vastly smaller than the no’ of people who are prepared to game on the go with certain other titles. We can also see that the overall market share for handhelds is slowing, compared to previous generations so far due to mobile devices eating into that particular business. Even though 3DS is doing relatively well on it’s own. It still provides an experience mostly superior to mobile due to harware control input. But as you probably know this is another area which is quickly changing as attachments for mobile become more stable and available… Game Master Now this wouldn’t be a problem if the third parties understood this and rose to the challenge. Isn’t that what there suppose to do? There game developers, it’s there job. Nintendo even made the Wii U Pro Controller and what do they do, they sh*t on the Wii U Jonathan Robitaille I know I know. But my guess is that it’s the publishers more than the devs that are pushing this. Like when Rayman Legends was delayed there was internal strife over it with the devs unhappy but Ubisoft delayed it anyway. I am sure in a vacuum these guys would love to prove to the gaming community their skill and expertise by making a damn good game. But the big shots have agendas, timelines, shareholders, financial considerations, backdoor deals, etc. so they hamstring their teams. RL was the one 3rd party game that was built from the ground up for the Wii U and it delivered big time. That is an excellent game. If Ubisoft had put that much time and effort into ZombiU it might have changed perception of the Wii U and increased sales. They really are talented over there. Game Master oooops your right, that’s what I meant to say. I remember that very will, the devs work very hard on Rayman Legends, even taking extra time getting all the bugs out and polishing it for it’s release in Feb. 2013 only to have Ubisoft delay it to port it to PS3 and 360 Now all we get from Ubisoft is delay, delay, game skipping the Wii U, game skipping the Wii U, game held in tell sells improve, even more delay Andrew Clear Stop tracing it back to the 64. Devs releasing garbage games and ports for the Wii and Wii U is their own fault. If they actually invested the money into a title for the Wii U, like they do for the Xbox or Playstation, then they would see a good return on their investment. Jonathan Robitaille yeah, for the most part, we buy the games that deserve to be bought, whether that is 1st, 2nd or 3rd party games. I will say this though, later in the Wii years there were some pretty decent games from 3rd parties that didn’t sell and that is because by then people were so turned off by the shovelware they dropped the console or it collected dust. Retailers didn’t help either. Their shelves were littered with nothing but cheap party games instead of games like Red Steel 3, Dead Space, Rayman Origins, The Last Story, Xenoblade, etc. And even die hard Nintendo Wii fans had moved on by 2010 and missed those games. Those gamers turned to better online and graphics found on PS360 and probably didn’t even realize those games had come out. Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Skyward Sword sold like crap compared to how good they were. In fact, looking back at the last two years for the Wii Nintendo really dropped the ball. They could have at least included component cables, I don’t remember there being SMG2 or SS bundles. It’s like they were on cruise control. They really deserve to be in the shape they are in. I feel like they have learned and implemented changes over the past year but man..what an awful last few years. Drugs Just thought I’d point out that the Wii U uses the same PowerPC architecture that the ps3 and xbox 360 use… Since the bulk of these games are also releasing on those consoles your comment about the Wii U architecture doesn’t really make any sense… third party developers don’t release games on the Wii U for two reasons One is the stigma that Nintendo consoles are for children (and the bulk of their games aren’t) and the Other (as the article highlights) is a fear that their games wont be able to compete with Nintendo’s first party line up… Both boil down to a fear that their game won’t be profitable on a Nintendo Console and both unfortunately perpetuating an endless cycle whereby the aforementioned fears and stigma can never be overcome tronic307 The decision Nintendo made to go with cartridges for N64 is what first drove third parties away. CD drives were horrible with loading times back then, true, but the more cynical explanation is that Nintendo thought they were the only game in town, and that publishers would continue to pay a hefty premium for cartridge manufacturing. Third parties understandably balked, and the rest is history. It didn’t merely change Nintendo’s fortunes, it allowed the ‘mature’ gaming culture to flourish unchecked, even altering the sensibilities of Japanese developers. Nintendo fans don’t buy those games (even Resident Evil Revelations for the Wii U was an astronomical flop) and here we are today with Nintendo supporting their console alone. Rinslowe True the speed at which Sony rose to popularity I think blindsided Nintendo somewhat. Not embracing CD drives back then would have long lasting effects, overlooked at the time. Which we can see in hindsight… And as you say, the rest is history. I totally agree. Theiz Zzee I agree partially. I don’t think CD drives would have been as big of a factor had better personal relations during the NES, SNES days. Third parties saw an opportunity not to be under Nintendo’s thumb so many jumped ship. If, the relationship was more balanced and good I strongly doubt that’d be the case. As far as more mature games Nintendo has a long history of such games. The difference is the graphics level and rating system just coming into it’s own. Games like Friday The 13th and Nightmare On Elm St and The Fist Of North Star all came out on the NES all from violent and gory roots, but due to the graphic level at the time it was not as big of an issue. Mortal KombatKombat came out on the SNES. Albeit less frequent more mature themes have a long history on Nintendo consoles. Hardware has been in issue for Nintendo for a long time, not always power being the issue, but dating back as you said to the N64. I don’t think that is the main issue though. If, a business believe they could take dog poo package it and make boatloads of money they would. Some kind of did that with the Wii. Consider this though the Wii was probably the worst to make games as far as difficulty and making multiplatform games, but 3rd parties did it cause the Wii was selling like hotcakes. My point with that is the Wii U is easier to make games for than the Wii U , but developers still want to act like that as the main reason to not make games for the Wii U. At the end of the day it boils down to money. Nintendo won’t greatly invest in games that aren’t exclusives. Sony and Microsoft will. Developers want a cookie cutter production line as close to copy and paste production as humanly possible and the Wii U doesn’t fit with that. They want to put in as little effort as they can put in on Wii U games they can get away with as high of profits as they can. They want the word work to cease from the human vocabulary. The Wii U may be a little more difficult to develop for than than it’s counterparts, but it’s not brain surgery. If, they put the time and effort they can get good results like Shin’en. I fault 3rd parties almost as much as Nintendo. If, you don’t believe in your products how do you expect others to? You have established a reputation of producing buggy, gimped underperforming games. That’s not Nintendo’s fault, it’s not the public’s fault, it’s your fault. So let each take responsibility for their own part in the matter. Yen If they had released Rayman on time when there were few games they might’ve boosted sales. The fact is they didn’t believe in their own game and the Wii U enough to stand by it. leafsfan73 Agree with that one 100%. I’ve said that all along delaying that game was a big mistake. Profits were ripe for the taking if they would have released it then, and Wii U sales would have held momentum instead of taking a dive into the crapper. ben Watchdogs did not sell 1 million on xbox one. The reason Ubi hate Nintendo is that Nintendo say a game has to work before it is shipped. The big publishers want to have huge system installs and massive patches so they can ship games half finished and fix the problems after they have the money. John Andalora Actually, it did. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Watch+Dogs CEObrainz At this point who’s actually going to buy the game? Sales plummeted after release because it failed to meet expectations of many gamers and word of mouth probably slandered chances of more purchases. By no means is it a bad game, but those that were interested have already played it…. D.M.T I’m still planning on buying the Wii U version. I skipped the PS4 version because I think the Wii U version will be better gameplay wise. Jonathan Robitaille you thinking because of the gamepad? I am not so optimistic. Rayman Legends gives me hope..everything else says no. I was never excited for it anyway because I never really believed Ubi would do the necessary work to utilize the gamepad properly. I gotta admit, if they do put in the effort I might buy it. I guess we’ll have to wait and see by the reviews Will.F. Martinez I skipped it on xboxone so that I could get it on wiiu and I’m still waiting. I hope we still get it. bistricky If it ever comes to the Wii U …. I am buying it …. I refuse to buy anything by Ubisoft on any other console. My personal protest. Des Watch what? Ubi who? Daniel Gonzalez It’s a no show(Watch Dogs) because it likely was canceled. I think a release date would have surfaced by now. Epicstuf Ubisoft. The company that said that Rayman Legends was going to be an exclusive to Wii U, but instead pulled a dick move and relased it for all consoles. Epicstuf And also this ——> http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Assassin-Creed-Unity-Far-Cry-4-Steam-Pages-Trolled-By-Angry-PC-Gamers-66573.html P.S. not spam Ultrasyd Stop with the “f**k Ubi” comments please, i’m sick of it. Even Nintendo keeps on delaying games again (Captain Toad in Europe for vague reasons, etc) If you guys are so good and know what should and should not be done in games business, go make your games OK ? Epicstuf Shut up. Ultrasyd With internet it’s so easy to complain all day long and say what has to be done. I’m not part of the gaming industry except for rarely composing music for indies, but many of my friends are (big studios or indie struggling) so maybe I see things in a different way. But yeah, it’s so intelligent to post “go choke a dick” right ? Epicstuf -_- You clearly don’t know modren Ubisoft. Ultrasyd More than you think. Epicstuf Hah, hah, not. Ultrasyd Some of my friends work at Ubi (Montreal, Annecy). But that’s not a reason to “defend” them as you might say. Epicstuf What position do they work? Ultrasyd Engine programmers, graphics for example, sound engineers. Then what ? It’s always the same here anyway. As long as your comments don’t go in the same direction as others, it’s “shut up”. Very babyish I remember it was the same for instance when I expressed my doubt about Mario kart being 1080p with some arguments, everyone was like “shut up you PS4 fan boy, Nintendo clearly shows the other studios are lazy”. Yet I only play Nintendo -_- Epicstuf Listen, I’m sorry. I just don’t like modern Ubisoft as much as Old Ubisoft. Maybe I’m just blinded by nostalgia. Ultrasyd I can understand you guys, I’m upset too. I don’t like to see that my console is doing bad with 3rd aprty support. I don’t wanna buy a PS4 or Xbox One and I’m waiting for watch dogs too. But don’t be childish, it’s more complex than what one might think. Darius I mean it wasn’t very unintelligent either he just expressed what he was feeling at the moment…its no like he was the only one obviously lol Bust4cap i am a developer, now what? ubisoft needs to fire their marketing team Daniel Gonzalez Agreed. james Yeah its amazing how when a game gets delayed or cancelled for Wii U all of a sudden out of the blue it “sucks” anyways according to some of the people on here isn’t it?? Diaz So is Watch_dogs for the wii u actually going to happen or are they going to keep stringing us along. I actually want to play it but not buy a whole console just for it. JoeyLMcCray The lineup for Ubisoft includes several already announced games, as well as a few that haven’t been announced for PC. The real kicker here is that despite the lineup, there is absolutely no mention of Watch Dogs for Wii U. http://apu.sh/9a7 Kobe Guys, can you please not use the old model of the Gamepad Epicstuf You are bothered by that? MHeinz it kind of bothers me too lol. Just the thought that nintendo even considered using sliders instead of a traditional joystick is enough to give me the shivers thedeciderU the nes max! MHeinz what i dont get at all is that this game was set to release about a year ago. If they were planning on releasing it a year ago that means that they would’ve had a playable form of the game around that time already. Then they decided to delay it to “polish” the game. since when does “polishing” a game take over a year? sure they say that “we r adding gamepad specific featrues” bs but even that probably wouldnt take so long to do (i am not a game developer so i could be wrong about this but i mean c’mon, how hard can it be? they already have an idea of how things work due to zombiu.) As much as it pains me to say it, i feel like Ubisoft if trying to quietly kill this game off considering they have pretty much lost all faith in Nintendo. all i can say is, best of luck to u Nintendo. I love my wii u and as long as good games come out for it i will still love it, however, u cant just get by with first party games, u need third party support as well. Jonathan Robitaille If you make some of the best games in the industry and you have a steady stream of them, you can get by with just that and indies. Unfortunately Nintendo failed to provide that steady stream of 1st party games and they are charging too much for a 1st party only machine. If we are to concede that that is exactly what the Wii U has become..Nintendo needs to lower the price to like $199 if they expect to compete in sales. Right now they are pricing themselves against PS4 and Xbone. But come 2015 the sheer amount of games and value coming from those two will easily surpass the Wii U so the price needs to allow for that. I’m thinking $249 for this Holiday season and $199 the following Summer or Holiday 2015 if they are to have any hope of being successful with a 1st party only system. anthony optimo Watch Dogs appears mediocre anyways. FutureFox I gave up on it. The storytelling structure was just off. I had imagine the first portions of the game would really put you in the world of a hacker, doing odd jobs in cool and sly ways; not immediately thrown into a revenge quest. anthony optimo You speak the truth. james Its a great game. Not perfect and impossible for it to have lived up to the hype. But it was very fun and definitely worth a purchase. TheChosen under 80% is not “a great game” for me, sorry. A great game is Mario 3D World (93%) or Mario Galaxy- hell even Bayonetta 1 Remake/2 will SHIT on this overhyped crap called “Watchdogs”. Jon Turner I don’t know WHY they haven’t shown it on here, but it’s still listed for order on Amazon, still at Gamestop, still at Ubisoft’s own page. It’s very strange. Carl Fin It’s literally 3rd Parties – V – Nintendo at this point and with 9 upcoming Nintendo games, I choose Nintendo. Jonathan Robitaille His comments in March sound like it was on hold for shipping…meaning..it was finished but they were waiting to drop it. Not..that the game needed more polish as we were led to believe. Let’s face it, they are most likely not making a Wii U version. There is ample evidence from Ubi that they are dropping support altogether. First their dissatisfaction with ZombiU sales (which is unwarranted really), second their delay of Rayman Legends, third their obvious last gen ports of AC 4, fifth their gimping of Splinter Cell and Child of Light, sixth they didn’t even make a Wii U version of Valiant Hearts, seventh their ‘delay’ of Watchdogs, eighth them not making either new AC game. We probably need to stop expecting anything more from them. Let’s just accept the Wii U is a 1st and 2nd party machine and enjoy it. It has the best lineup currently and they should be able to hold their own through 2015. 2016 (if not earlier) is most likely is the last full year of support before they move on to their next console. We will have received plenty of great games and nobody should be unhappy with the value they received. Jon Turner No way. I refuse to accept that future and I refuse to give up hope on third party support for WiiU in general. Maybe Ubisoft won’t step up their game, but I won’t give up on Japan. The WiiU is outselling PS4 there. Surely thirds will jump on board. Like I said earlier, too, WATCH DOGS is still listed for WiiU on Amazon, Gamestop, and Ubisoft. It isn’t cancelled until Ubisoft says so, and until they do, it’s still coming. Jonathan Robitaille I hear you, but in your heart of hearts…based on what we know of Ubisoft and their efforts towards the Wii U, do you believe they will put in the effort to make Watchdogs top notch ‘current gen’ level quality? I sure don’t. It will be a straight 360 port like AC 4 was and the inherent power advantage will naturally prove slightly better graphics but they won’t strive to optimize it. Jon Turner I really am not crazy about what Ubisoft is doing, but I still can hope for Japan third party support; that’s the only country where WiiU is outselling PS4, albeit to lower numbers, but still. Should WiiU continue to steamroll PS4 in Japan, I’m sure we’ll see a shift in development toward WiiU just like we saw with 3DS in the beginning after it napalmed PSV for its first year. Petri It has been delayed indefinitely in favor of DLC for other platforms. xTrucho3 If the game is coming out on Wii U than why the hell isn’t Ubisoft advertising it? Then they blame Wii U owners for not buying their games yet Ubisoft isn’t letting Wii U owners know when it’s coming or if it’s even coming out it’s really getting annoying to the point where I’m comparing Ubisoft to EA hell I’m already pissed that AC Rogue isn’t coming to Wii U and if Watch_Dogs doesn’t come then I’m done with Ubisoft. matthew garcia Nintendo hardly advertises its own console so I don’t see how they expect 3rd parties to advertise xTrucho3 Yes Nintendo messed up on marketing but we’re almost 2 years in the WiiU’s life and people should now know the difference between the Wii and WiiU, either you’re a troll or just don’t get out much, but what I’m saying is that Ubisoft should at least mention the WiiU version of Watch Dogs and give light about the release date or something 00EpicGamer00 “People should know the difference between Wii and WiiU.” The problem is, they don’t. There’s people still today that don’t know what a Wii U is, or think it’s an add on for the Wii. “Either you’re a troll or just don’t get out much.” So, because you think people “should” know what the Wii U is, he’s a troll? He’s right, you know? Nintendo hardly advertises their own console. So do you really expect them to advertise 3rd party games? xTrucho3 What’s so hard on googling the following “what’s a wii u”? When you go to game forums people know what a WiiU because they bash it, Nintendo didn’t advertise their console so it struggle a hell lot, but when a third party developers doesn’t advertise a game coming to a console, do you expect it to sell either? 00EpicGamer00 “What’s so hard on googling the following Wii U” Exactly this. If you don’t know what something is, get off your butt and go do some research. Sheesh….I don’t understand why that’s complete gibberish to people. “When you go to game forums people know what a Wii U because they bash it” People know what a Wii U is in a game forum, because they are known as “hardcore” gamers. Basically all the people on this site, including you and me, that stay up to date with game “news” and actually goggle stuff when we don’t understand something! I think Nintendo was always bad at advertising. I don’t remember any “good” commercials. Ducked Nintendo had a rough start, and by that I mean an entire year of rough sales. Ubisoft stood loyal with Nintendo when no one else would. They gave us Assassins Creed III, Assassins Creed IV, ZombiU, Rayman Legends, and Splinter Cell Blacklist. Out of all the games I mentioned, Rayman was the only one that sold well on Wii U. Why? A few reasons. 1: Small install base. 2: Games like AC and SE don’t sell well with Nintendo. Most of your Nintendo owners don’t play games like that. Let’s just look, besides Nintendo games, Platformers and RPGs are the only games that sell well with Nintendo and Wii U. SolarShane13 It’ll be quietly canceled 🙁 Juan Carlos It will flop regardless of when they release it at this point. Most gamers will have played it already on another console, or won’t care about it anymore since it’ll be somewhere between 6-12 months old. Plus the post-release buzz was more in line with it not living up to the hype. If nintendo wants third party releases to be successful I think they gotta be a part of the initial launch or else it’s not even worth the time DJKeens Exactly. Delaying the release only means those truly excited for it will have already bought it on other platforms. Watch Dogs which after playing the XBone version IMHO wasn’t that great of a game anyway and the wii u version will probably be lacking DLC and the connectivity of competitor versions so why would consumers buy it? They’ll certainly blame the consumers after the imminent lack of sales. ben It flopped already. It needed to do over 8 million copies to break even. Arthur Jarret I wouldn’t read too much into it – why would they promote a game at a trade fair that has already had a succesful advertising campaign, just for a version delayed due to low sales expectancies? Wilks Imagine if Ubisoft cancelled it completely, what a spit in the face to WiiU owners that would be. ben The game is a spit in the face to anyone who bought it, so not releasing it on Wii u would actually make ubi look better. oontz The game is actually pretty good. TheChosen 80%- not at all. Hahaha- year really good. Well- if you are sony-gamer/MS-game, then yes that is “good” xD But if you can have games like Bayonetta 1 Remake/2 (which mark my words will get another 90%)- or Lego City Undercover which even laughs about Watchdogs- or even Resident Evil Revelations Port is better… hahaha- 80%- overhyped crap. Watchdogs isn`t even on the charts anymore. Its dead. oontz In what world do you live where 80% is not “good”? Is it “great” “amazing” or even a “masterpiece”? No, but it is pretty good. Seeing as The other two games (lego and RE) you mentioned also scored 80%, I’m not seeing the relevance or the point you’re trying to make. Again like your other post, thanks for trying. Maybe go make friends with David Fail, you are cut from the same cloth, that’s for sure. Daniel Gonzalez Seems like Davey boy has started up a new gimmick, which fails just as hard as his previous. Old habits die hard. leafsfan73 It won’t be coming to the Wii U. Watch dog’s is old hat now. It wouldn’t sell if they released it. I’d prefer they didn’t release it now, as opposed to releasing it 6months after initial release, it doesn’t sell, and then say 3rd party doesn’t sell on Wii U. Either bring it out out at the same time as the other platforms, or stuff it. bistricky You make a good point ….. if anything: even at worse, no more then 1 month after Mario Kart 8 was released …. to fill the software void for the Wii U. But we only can hope for a better future …. just like being a Leafs fan XD …… and I also am a Leafs fan, so I know all about hope. Cheers 😀 Potemkin I didn’t buy the PS3 version waiting on this one, but it seems I will get it if I ever upgrade to PS4. Oh, not to say it doesn’t surprise me at all haha ben I would not bother. All Ubi games suck. oontz Wow you have a serious man hate for Ubisoft… an almost unhealthy obsession. Thanks for sharing your opinion though. Epicstuf Are you sure, all games from Ubi sucks? Adam Fox Ubisoft = EA of 2014? purple Oh man, It sure feels like its been headed to that hasnt it ? Andrew Clear I’m starting to feel that Microsoft put a little money into some publishers pockets to delay a few 3rd party titles, so their console has a fighting chance. (Watch Dogs, Project Cars)… ben Ubisoft failed to make the sales they needed on PS4 or Xbox one for this game, so it is never going to make it to wii U. Wait for the sales for that new last gen Asscreed. Ubi are heading for a big fall. oontz What are you on about? This is the fastest selling new franchise in video game history. It has been selling very well across all platforms it’s available on. ben It was Ubisofts biggest selling new franchise, not the biggest selling new franchise in video game history. It did not sell any where near what Ubi wanted. It shipped 8 million. It needed to sell more than 8 million to cover the development cost and the advertising costs. It did not sell well on last gen or PC. oontz http://www.gamernews.eu/public/news/2014-06-04/156/Watch_Dogs_is_Fastest_Selling_New_IP_in_Gaming_History.asp Many news outlets reported it as not only for ubisoft, even though it broke a lot of their previous in house records, including first day sales for a ubisoft game. It has done very well and better than they expected. David Trail The other guy is right not you Oontz. You are always wrong. oontz Ha ha, unfortunately you lack basic reading skills. Try again David Fail. Daniel Gonzalez I think it’s more than just reading skills. Shame he came back early from his vacation. Daniel Gonzalez I was thinking the same thing. Someone is misinformed. If he was talking about the quality of the game, that would be another subject. TheChosen and its also the worst rated one. 80% hahahaha- for such overhyped crap? Hahahaha! Oontz! clearly the name – thats you. It suits you perfectly like a glove. oontz “and its also the worst rated one” If the 80% reference you’re making is for metacritic… well then it seems you’d be wrong as there are a bunch of new IPs that scored less than 80%… including The Wonderful 101. Thanks for trying though. james sales were awesome for WatchDogs! sequel is coming, just not on Wii U. 00EpicGamer00 There’s sequel!? Has this actually been confirmed? Logan Waltz They should just drop the project nobody is going to buy it. We either have it on another system or we played a friends copy. Nintendo should just expand its Dev payroll and buy capcom koopapoopas Ubisoft doesn’t get it. Wii U users are hungry for games – especially since a lot of the best ones are coming out later this year. If you compile it for the Wii U, they will come – with cash on hand. It’s like a bunch of spreadsheet reading MBA’s run Ubisoft or something and not game creators. james Ubisoft did support Wii U with good games like Zombie U and Rayman, and the sales were low. Nobody came with cash on hand. Cant blame them ifthey cancel WatchDogs. David Trail Rayman sold the most on Wii U and Zombi U didn’t do too bad for a new ip. Petri Yes… they sold to 1/4th, 25% of the install base on launch. If that low budget minimal marketing game did not yield any profits, Ubisoft needs management replacement way more than Nintendo. I think Rayman on PS3 sold bit more than Wii U version. But not too much to brag about. J_Joestar Rayman also had like half a years delay while being 100% finished. TheChosen Fail! Ubisoft delayed Rayman. Then they delayed it AGAIN! They delayed it nearly a whole year! Then the screwed WiiU-users and said- the exclusivity-deal is gone. Ubisoft just now gets what they deserve 😉 The deserve (in my opinion) to go bankrupt tomorror. No Nintendogames wants Ubisoft. I for one, don`t like AssCreed (crazy name for a game huh? Ass Creed!)- i only like Rayman Legends. ZombiU was very bad for a thirdparty-game too (65%? Hahaha! you will never see such bad rates at Nintendo-games). akaDenver I dont even want it anymore, Ubisuck Purple Why is it that not a single 3rd party Dev supports Wii U? They all have abandoned it. So sad! Jon Turner It won’t be that way for long. I wager that we’ll see some step on again next year. Especially if WiiU continues its upswing momentum. Daniel Because Nintendo’s does nothing to support 3rd party relationships. They only care about their own hardware and software. They know they don’t need 3rd party support to be successful. Having franchises like Zelda, Mario…etc is enough for them to sell hardware. They literally don’t care about 3rd parties and see themselves in direct competition with them, rather than needing them to help justify a higher selling point for their products. The fact that the Wii U does not have titles such as Destiny, GTA V, Street Fighter, FIFA/PES…etc is outrageous. Imagine for a second that you don’t like Call of Duty (it’s not that hard), what other quality 1st person shooter will you play online on the Wii U? None. You only have to go to their eShop page to see how they treat 3rd parties. They have a monolopy on their target audience and that’s the way they like it. Quite frankly, I’m sick of Nintendo still thinking it’s the 80’s with their business strategies. Consumers have more choices than ever in regards to gaming, and Nintendo would prefer to ignore it instead of embracing it. When Nintendo acknowledges that it IS their responsiblitiy to attract 3rd party support and that they are a VITAL part of their product value, then and only then will we start to see them build a console with the right balance of software. purple I never thought of it that way before… nintendo instead of embracing 3rd party sees them as direct competition. Mind blown. Thats a logical point. You’re absolutely right, they need to change their view points and relationships. You say all thwy need is first party to sell hardware but I believe soon people will not support nintendo if they are only first party. Its getting really bad. I know im sick of it. Jonathan Robitaille great points that many don’t see. Nintendo is in no rush to help their competitors out. They are in the software business and care about 3rd parties in regards to how they may help sell hardware so Nintendo can sell more of its own software. Personally I am on Nintendo’s side. Do you. If you want the other games buy the other consoles. I just sold my Wii U tonight actually. I had played and beat all the games I wanted and tried most of the others. I plan on getting another one in 2015 for Zelda, Wooly World, Captain Toad, and after a price drop. Now I am looking for the best deal on a PS4 so I can finally try The Last of Us. TheChosen wait…what? You just pointed, that Call of Duty – the yearly rehash (!) – is a quality game? Hahahaha! Epic Fail! i Would never buy Call of duty. I play Conduit instead 😉 And imagine what? I can still play that on WiiU, even its a Wii-games. BC is very good indeed. You don`t need rehashes for the new console- or ports and ports and more ports. Daniel Your grammar is an ‘EPIC FAIL’ kid. Your math and comprehesnison is also way off. COD is a high selling franchise, whether you care to acknowledge that or not. My point was not that it is a AAA title, but rather that if you don’t particularly love COD, then you pretty much don’t have much choice in the way of shooters. Hence missing out on quality upcoming games such as Destiny. Conduit is an average game at best and if you’re happy to play only old games on a new system, then you are missing the point of purchasing a new console. Nintendo needs to sell hardware and needs to stop treating 3rd party publishers as competitors. For example; I’m not a huge fan of GTA, but I acknowledge that the fan base Nintendo would have brought over to the console would have helped sell systems. Nintendo have publicly stated that they will not get caught up in a bidding war for 3rd party content. Simply put; Nintendo are not going to fight to get quality content on their system because they want to have a monopoly on software sales. Go play your Conduit and maybe squeeze in some Brain Age while you’re at it. Troll. oontz Wait you are saying The Conduit is very good but it only scored 69%, and yet you claim that Watchdogs isn’t good at all because it scored an 80%. Ha ha, you’re the one making epic fails around here thats for sure. Daniel Gonzalez ^This. Sdudyoy Sad, I forgot Watch dogs was even coming to the Wii U. A – Kuma THERE’S NO POINT ANYMORE! unless they add a bunch of exclusive content AND any DLC that released already installed…EVEN THEN there’s still no point! They should have just said they weren’t going to make the game if they didn’t want to make it, that’s what everyone else is saying. Oh and just wait till it FLOPS because the game has already been played and observed as much as it needs to be, then oh no guess who’s fault it is!? “oh it’s because it’s on a nintendo platform and” no, retarded fucking excuses. If ubisoft is going to be like this then they should just say fuck it and cut ties. Alejandro Castillo I’ll just wait 4 months after it’s release and get it on sale. Fuck it 😛 Petri Release it on October, and I will laugh myself ill while canceling my pre-order. So far, November looks clear, or was that Smash Bros month? Somehow thinking of December. Unless it releases on a month with no major releases, it is bargain bin game for me. Though I do not believe they are even working on it anymore. Maybe retailer could get a confirmation for it, since they are still listing it. Cant believe I was ready get the deadsec edition, but my retailer removed the listing and notified that it was not coming few weeks after the listing. 00EpicGamer00 Smash Bros. 3DS is releasing in October and Wii U is “suppose” to be releasing in December. Merry_Blind I’m confident Smash will be released in November. November is the biggest month of the year for all game company. Game juggernauts always release in November, and Smash Bros. is definitely a juggernaut. Also, given the other release dates we have for other Wii U exclusives, it would make sense to have Smash in November; Hyrule Warriors releases in September, and Bayonetta 2 in October, so there’s nothing in November for now. Games are rarely released in December. Epicstuf What’s on my list, Smash Bros, and stuff. David Trail Not bothered really. There are far more important games than Watchdogs. Agent721 It’s not coming out, considering the other consoles are already getting new editions. Daniel Bet you it releases AFTER Smash bros. They will try and ride that wave. I think the game will look god awful, plus UBI love to release games with shitty frame rates. Not anticipating this one at all. tom I bet the Wii U version will sell 60k lifetime at best. tom It would not shock me if they scrap the Wii U version of watch dogs. J_Joestar they really might as well at this point, with the huge delay and zero marketing it’ll probably get and inevitable full game price at a time when other versions will likely cost half the price it is bound to flop. and then they’ll blame the gamers for not buying it. tom I agree 100%. I use to have high respect for UBI but as of late they seem to be EA. Example, the release of mass effect 3. The wii U version was 59.99 and the game has been out has been put for quite some time. Then the other versions had a trilogy set out for cheaper also. Then EA wonders why the lack of sales. I feel if Watch Dogs is release it will be full retail and the other version for lets say half off. J_Joestar and it will probably be gimped in the DLC department as well… Joecoo1 You know what I just saw the Gamescom NEW Dying Light trailer and I have to say…. I want that game!!! Also saw PVZ Garden warfare for PS4 and I wonder if it will ever come to Wii U. Since sales are up and near PS4. Brandon Its ea so im going to say…….no Jonathan Robitaille Dying Light looks bonkers man..me wants!! purple They dont make games like they use to. Or maybe im harder to impress. Merry_Blind Nintendo still do though. Daniel Jeanbaptiste “So it’s on hold” Yup it not coming. Ghost Recon Online still isn’t on Wii U. Nickos Foivos They won’t bring it at all. I did want to buy it but after all this drama, I am not interested anymore. Better games are coming than Ubi’s! allvalve Ubisoft are worse for Nintendo than EA. At least with EA you know that you won’t get a game, with UBIsoft you get comments like “have a complete game for Wii U, sitting on it until the install base is big enough”. I believe this is a lie. If you have a complete game then you have already paid for it to be made, not releasing it guarantee’s you make a loss, releasing it for a system with a low install base at least gives you a chance to make your money back. Funnily enough, they have no problem releasing games for the XboxOne, which has the lowest install base of the current gen consoles. And the whole Watchdogs saga is now ridiculous. When and if they release it, the interest will be gone, and the hype machine will probably be on to Watchdogs 2, rendering the original totally worthless. I’d rather have no UBIsoft support for WiiU than the counter productive and potentially sales damaging lies this company churns out. Petri It is a party game, why bother when you get raped by Nintendo on that front? allvalve True, but why mention it at all? Keep it in the background and release when you think it’s right, but don’t announce that you’re not releasing it because sales aren’t where they should be. Petri That is a mystery. Maybe just bluff? Trying to point fingers why their subpar ports are not selling. Who knows. Coffee I want this to come out. I already beat it on ps4 but I never owned it….I borrowed it from a friend so I couldn’t take my time with the free roaming and do enough of the decryption multiplayer ( this is coming from someone who usually HATES competitive multiplayer and multiplayer shooting is probably on my number one big no no to play list) This game has so much potential for gamepad features. John Perez why couldn’t they just release another exclusive like zombiU2? soundtrack by…red hot chili peppers haha but seriously, and then take their sweet time with it. that game had so much potential and it still does in my opinion K_Locker I’m the latest one to crack, just bought it on PS4. Not blaming Nintendo, just tired of waiting. I know, I know, I’m making the WiiU’s problems worse, I just want to play though. Joshua A. Peters watchdogs for the U, is supposed to drop in december. the developers r excited (for once, to work on this version) because they claim that the gamepad opens up some further possibilties then with ps4&one or any other console version. also ubisoft supposingly wants to make more games for the U, but they need more console sales.