Oct 4th, 2013

Sniper Elite 3 Logo

Earlier this week Sniper Elite III was announced for the PlayStation 4 and other platforms. The game is still set in World War 2, but features a new sniper and a new setting. Tasked with stopping the German front moving through Africa, OSS agent Karl Fairburne is sent to North Africa to dispatch several high-ranking German officers. The same highly detailed kill-cam resurfaces, but many fans were left asking about the Wii U.

Sniper Elite v2 was released earlier this year on Nintendo’s Wii U, albeit without the online co-op mode or the spy and sniper missions that made the release so entertaining on other platforms. It’s interesting to see the company has no plans for Wii U at the moment and one has to wonder if that’s not because of the lack of sales for the neutered Sniper Elite v2 release.

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  • I am sure they are going to blame the poor sales of their last game on the Wii U as an excuse never acknowleding the fact that they gimped the game on the Wii U kicking fans of the online experience to the curb.

    • Yep, I was sorely disappointed when I found out that the Wii U version of the game wouldn’t have online co-op. I played the game on my PC first with a friend and had a blast. The Spy and Sniper mode is amazing, I don’t know why they’d want to exclude it.

      • Derk

        Is it safe to assume that Nintendo is to blame for these gimped games?

        Its not like the developers are holding out on the other consoles… It almost seems like it would be more work for them to exclude online MP from the original versions. Do the developers get a cut of Sony and Microsoft’s online fee? That seems like the only legitimate incentive I can think of to gimp their games.

        • david jarman

          Sony just recently started charging for psn+. So I don’t think it has to do with that.

          I think its more of install base.

          • Ducked

            No, people can still play free

          • david jarman

            I’m talking about playstation plus. There is a fee. I was responding to a persons comment about developers taking a percentage from fees.
            If you would notice the plus sign on the end of psn

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            If you meant PS Plus, then it’s PS Plus or Playstation Plus, not PSN+, otherwise you’re refering to the whole network and not just the Plus service. Lol.

          • david jarman

            The plus is the optimum network service. My mistake for adding the “n”. Didn’t mean to throw you off and start another online aurguement. The point was that I think it’s more because of the small install base. That can’t make enough profit to cover the cost of running servers and maintaining them.
            You’re the most opinionated person I have ever known.
            Which means you’re very arguementive.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I know. You say it like it’s a bad thing. πŸ™‚

          • david jarman


          • Ducked

            I know, but not everyone has to buy PS Plus

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            PSN is still free on PS3. I think you mean the PS4.

          • david jarman

            Playstation plus has a free trial, but it does have subscription.

            The “+” was not a typo.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I know PS Plus cost money. I was talking about PSN as a service is free. Only those who want PS Plus have to pay. Plus, Sony has been charging for Plus. So I think you goofed on your previous post.

          • david jarman

            Do even know what I was commenting on?
            The person I replied stated that developers might be getting a portion of ms and playstation fee. The only playstation fee I could think of was playstation plus which they haven’t been doing for that long.

        • blindtiger

          that is not safe to assume… wii got gimped because they had to include motion and scale down graphics. wii u gets gimped because they have to include gamepad play. they could make the best version on wii u… at least as long as theyre porting from current gen. not nintendos fault… most devs are lazy uncreative and cheap.

      • Nintedward

        Same, all they had to do was give us what they had already released but they effed that up.
        No online for How to survive means no buy. Unless I see it for like Β£12 a year after release.

      • Daniel Carvalho

        I wish we could state directly to those third party companies that if their game fails to sell is because they’ve made a poor job. Seriously, I’m tired of always having companies determine that it’s our fault or Nintendo’s that the games they develop don’t sell. Surely Nintendo is below the times in some aspects, but Wii U is perfectly capable of doing whatever they come up with right now, it’s their stupid decisions of launching poorly made outdated ports lacking features that make sales so bad!

      • bizzy gie

        Don’t forget that this gimped version retaails for a full $60 when it’s 20-30 dollars on other platforms.

    • Nintedward

      Their full priced, 1 year gimped port of Sniper elite v2 was one of the cheekiest things ever attempted in the history of Game development.

      It’s insulting. It’s like chopping a Sofa in half and trying to sell it as a full Sofa…. get fucked lol.

      • kevin

        I agree about removing things, but also. Why do online for WIIU, when 100 people are online. Its not worth the servers for that. The only game that gets a number of people is COD and its 2000 people is a small enough you can’t play many modes. While the WII had over 10,000 people.

        The community is too small for WIIU

        • Nintedward

          The Wii had over ten thousand people online at once? Try millions of people playing Mario kart Wii at once when it was at its peak.
          Wiiu is still a baby. Wait until Smash and Mario kart 8 hit. then you will see hundreds of thousands of people online.

          Monster Hunter 3 ultimate is probably the most popular online game on Wiiu at the moment. Their was probably somewhere around 50-100K people playing online at its peak (at any one time)

        • blindtiger

          even if there were only 100 people online wouldnt that mean it would take less servers to maintain?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Less profit.

      • At least WB games had the decency to drop their game $10 because a feature was omitted to play online ONLY on the Wii U.

        If these game companies and console makers were not such greedy bastards with their proprietary networks to play online they could have a set up where you connect to a server to play with anyone on any platform. I understand having the unique ID but from that point it is just an internet connection and a link to the server for data updates to share where the other players are in the game. You know it can be done because at one point Microsoft allowed Games For Windows to interact with Games for XBOX.

        • Nintedward

          I’m not interested in the online in Batman at all so I’m definitely buying for Wiiu now!!! And they announced the Season pass for Wiiu which makes it a bit more attractive.

    • Merrfn

      I saw it on steam for $10 including DLC and Zombies. Then I looked at the $100 (NZD) GIMPED version on the Wii U. I then pondered which purchase to make…

      It was not a tough decision.

    • Hulkamania

      I really doubt the Wii U will be selling poor for long.

      What pisses me off is that we already know that the Xbox One will probably sell worse then the Wii U, and I sure hope it does because its a piece of shit of a system. The same developers who make excuses for not developing on the Wii U because of poor sales, will probably develop on the Xbox One, even though probably one one person will own the console. I know it, you know it… certain developers are prejudice towards Nintendo and they think they can control whether a console fails or not. When the Dreamcast still existed, EA did the same exact thing to SEGA. EA wanted SEGA consoles to die, and so didn’t Microsoft. Funny thing is, Microsoft was partnered with SEGA at first, but the only reason they partnered with SEGA was just to figure out how the gaming industry operates, leading to Microsoft developing the Xbox behind SEGA’s back. Peter Moore was the president of Sega of America, he fired a bunch of Japanese workers who wanted to keep SEGA in the hardware industry and then pulled SEGA out of the hardware industry completely, ditched SEGA and joined Microsoft. He did that on purpose so that when he joined Microsoft, there would be one less console to worry about. This is the reason why I absolutely hate how developers are prejudice towards a gaming console. EA and Rockstar are notorious for this.

  • Agent721

    I was going to buy the sniper game on the wii u, but after all the features were dropped…why even bother?

  • Archiq09

    2 has no multiplayer and dlc (it’s why wii u version has no more sale) … if they want make good sale with wii u put same thing to other consoles.

  • Yoboyjohn

    After that awful port I can give a sh*t less

  • RenΓ© Park Triolo

    Well… if they’d released the same kind of lazy sub par quality like the first one, who would even care?! This autumn and next year is already crowded with high quality games for the WiiU… ACIV, Watchdogs, Windwaker, Mario Kart, Sonic and Mario at the Sochi Olympics, Mario 3D, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, SSMB, Sonic Lost World, Bayonetta 2 and more… so who cares if we don’t get a gimped crappy game like Sniper Elite?

    • Rinslowe

      Let us not forget X!

      THE X, that will steal me away from reality for many a day….

  • Keyser

    I didn’t buy it because it didn’t interest me. What’s the difference between this and every other generic “war shooter” clone?

    • Marcus Navarro

      Pretty sniper executions! πŸ˜€

  • Marcus Navarro

    Here’s how you sell a game on the Wii U:
    Make a good game
    Do not remove features
    Give the Wii U owners incentive to buy it

    Few things are that simple in this world. This is one of them.

    • Wolfgem

      Genius comment is genius

    • MetroidZero


    • The Clockwork Being

      EA: Steps were too hard to follow we ended up releasing last years game.

    • Martijn Plasmans

      Wonder how Rayman is selling and how it would have sold if it was still a Wii U exclusive.

  • Wren Justin Umlauf

    Yeah, I made the mistake of buying sniper elite for the Wii U. I wanted a sniper game and a new Wii U game really bad at the time so I coughed up the $60 despite the features being removed. I’ve had a good amount of fun on the game, but its worth $20 at most. So honestly, I’m not very disappointed that it wont be coming to Wii U, because they’d probably gimp it again.

  • FredMirotic

    Not even interested in the game in the first place, plus the poor Wii U version we got, no thanks

  • Well yeah, the last game was an AWFUL port with many features missing. Of course it’s not gonna sell

    • Marcus Navarro

      Now now, Zorps. It wasn’t THAT bad! It was still a game…a game that was playable. Just without the shiny bits…

      Fuck it. I quit

      • I have shiny bits πŸ˜‰

        • Marcus Navarro

          LOL!!!! XDDDDDD

  • Baum γ€Œγƒ„γƒͺー」


    I really don’t care about that game (it’s utter BS imho), but as always I know and respect that other people really enjoyed the game (maybe not so much on Wii U, but there are enough people who aren’t such closed minded not to buy two or all consoles, because of fanboyism).
    It’s really ridiculous how those morons expect us to buy butchered versions of an already mediocre game and then saying we don’t want their releases anyway…it’s been said often enough and I won’t talk about it here, I KNOW you all understand what I mean (sadly)

    Oh well, if Wii U’s fanbase isn’t mature or worthy enough for your (bad) games, so be it. I’m off continuing Wind Waker now. See ya all tomorrow ^^

    • Marcus Navarro

      It’s okay to say “y’all.” Just sayin’…
      Anyway, I agree, although the challenge mode was stupidly fun. Never really had that in a sniper game. Even though everything else is pretty shit.

      • Derk

        Don’t type that on a resume or say it at an interview because you will be looked down upon. Actually, its not the word Y’all but any contraction whatsoever in formal writing is looked down upon. Although Y’all and ain’t are usually the ones under fire.

        • Marcus Navarro

          Is this a job interview or a public forum?

          That’s what I fucking thought.
          Edit: You’re talking about formal writing and you have a run-on sentence! XD

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I don’t see a run on sentence in there. Though, he did forget comas in some of his sentences.

          • david jarman


            I think this would be more appropriate.

            Don’t type that in a resume or say it in an interview. You will be looked down upon.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, what he said wasn’t really that bad. Though yes, it would be more appropriate on a resume. No doubts there.

  • Nintendofreak

    Neutered is such a ugly word u.u

  • oman

    Seriously, who gives a shit? After their last watered down effort, how are we expected to buy this crap and put up with it! Nintendo gamers have been dealing with this crap for far too long! We see whats happening…..”we give nintendo half assed game, game dont sell, we go on internet and say…………..there is no audience for our games on nintendo consoles, so therefore, we wont be bringing next installment to wii u! ” enough of the excuses already, growing tired of this trend!

  • Will we really miss this title I haven’t adopted a WiiU yet but from what I read here and on probably every other place online and in magazines it seems like WiiU is only getting half finished games… Lack of DLC, Lack of Online Modes, Lack of Multiplayer modes (except biased local modes, even the local modes are pretty bad in general) I Think really only Monster Hunter 3U had a excellent online mode, every other game thusfar seems to be half games (in cases price will be cut, see Batman)

    As someone said on the other article about batman that online multiplayer mode is not really needed in a batman game, I have to say I agree with him, but why leave it out on WiiU and put it in on other platforms, feels to me like WiiU only get’s half finished games and that pisses me of so much. Especially the fact they Always seem to latch onto: The system’s user base isn’t big enough… I say B***SH** you make/add it to PS4 and XB1 which have NO install base at all and won’t have any until the end of the year so cut te crap, and do something, if you want to make money use all resources do not exclude one resource, because when you do we gamers won’t be bothered to buy halfarsed unfinshed games or crap ports. Looks at Sniper Elite V.2 and the rest of the incomplete games.

    My apologis, had to throw out this rant again. I’m okay, I have calmed down again.
    GN everyone (1230am here and after a long day at work I want to go to bed and sleep)

  • Gabe Hoffman

    Perhaps the developers have learned that you should not put out a half baked year old port and charge 60 dollars for it

    • Andrew Chambers

      That’ll never happen.

    • Rinslowe

      Yeah, we sometimes forget that marketing divisions are run by people, just people like you and me…
      And when someone is looking at the figures only cause creativity moved on after the original was completed, then we get silly logic in play; “because the audience is limited on Wii U currently we need to charge more to recuperate cost faster”. But what that ends up doing is pushing away the savvy Nintendo gamer who knows that a port of a year old game is not in any way justifiable at full cost of the original release price…
      In fact if they realised a hard truth of this world, sometimes you have to give before you can receive! And building a stable audience on the platform for future benefits is surely a more long term solution than what is happening now… Then maybe they would find a better success on the platform?

      Economics however can make or break a company, so not always so black and white…

  • leo

    Well i hope we get it but, even then the developer gimps out on us.

    • Rinslowe

      Nintendo will always have this problem with third party dev’s…

      How to realistically compete with Nintendo’s IP’s on a Nintendo console? Not being a fanboy, I genuinely think this would be an intimidating task for any studio, not 110% confident of their abilities…
      Nintendo has copped a lot of criticism of late, but no-one can deny their prowess in making top quality games with near uncanny stability, creativity, innovation…

  • I don’t know why third-parties seem to have this notion that if they gimp their games, Wii U owners will buy it, and when that doesn’t happen ~ they think it’s okay to whine about it.

    These devs aren’t whining; but they’re still holding off.

    Take a note from Criterion (Need for Speed: Most Wanted U), Forezenbyte (Trine 2: Director’s Cut) and Ubisoft (Rayman Legends) ~ you can actually make some REALLY good multiplats on the Wii U.

    • Elem187

      I wouldn’t use NFS as proof of success… It’s probably the best looking port on the system, but the sales completely bombed.

      • Sales bombed because:

        A.) It wasn’t exactly marketed very well.


        B.) It was released 6 WHOLE MONTHS after the other versions, so players more than likely already owned/played it on other systems.

  • tom

    I am so not going to miss it.

  • Hulkamania

    Hopefully the Wii U picks up in sales this holiday season… and also… hopefully EA will stop being butt hurt towards Nintendo for whatever reason… maybe we can get Battlefield… I personally would like that better then Call of Duty. I just hope we get good support on the console eventually more so then what we have now.

    • Petri

      I would like BF bad company 3.
      But if BF 4 is even worse on consoles, they can bury those discs of BF 3.5 next to those E.T cartridges.

  • Randall Hellmer

    As much as their decision to offer a lamed product probably hurt sales substantially…I hope we can admit that the game probably had little sales potential on the system to begin with. As such, I completely understand their decision not to pursue a Wii U version of the next game

  • Petri

    Didn’t really care for this franchise before, now even less.
    It’s sad they think stripped down year old port is worth of full retail game.
    Did what I did with Mass Effect 3, bought it to my collection when it was in the bargain bin.

  • Marius Valasinas

    I bought V2 for my Wii U. totally love the game. 3rd one better be on it too

  • SomeFluffer64

    “We released a gimped version on the Wii U, and it didn’t sell? It’s obviously Nintendo’s fault somehow!”

    Oh please, didn’t they see how Toki Tori 2’s sales skyrocketed after it got the + update? that proved that a game will sell on Wii U if it’s NOT GIMPED!

  • Logan Waltz

    If you aren’t going to make the game right, why the fuck should we pay you? No game requires gamepad play. It’s a regular controller with a screen in the middle that nobody has to utilize. If you want to take advantage of the screen, good. If you don’t want to use it at all, we can save battery power.

  • Michael Jurado

    didn’t this game suck?

    • Elem187

      No its a fun game. It’s just had missing features in the Wii U version.

  • Gregg

    They released a crippled version, it doesn’t sell well, so, they don’t release the sequel. 1+1=3? *Facepalm*

  • Elem187

    Dear 505, You left out features and your game bombed. That’s your fault, not mine.

    You only have yourself to blame.

  • leo
  • Martijn Plasmans

    Don’t think it has anything to do with poor Wii U sales. More with the hardware of the Wii U. ( extra development time= costs money)

    It’s not a big famed studio and making a game for PS4/XboxOne is a challenge itself ,in the terms of sales because of the low installed base these platforms will have.

  • TaintedXGamer

    Well they DID Neutered it on the Wii U……..they should blame emselves for not Put EVERYTHING, this is like the wii situation when they Managed to make a port of COD but not giving us the SLC though nintendo was partly to blame for that with the eshop at the time….. (also i noticed while i transfered My Save Data and Wii ware stuff from my Disc error dead wii to my Wii u, that there was a COD WF3/black ops Pay and play Data, which i presume WAS for the DLC…..) The Eshop for WII U is a Major Improvement from what the Wii Eshop was. they got no Excuses now.

    • TaintedXGamer

      I long for the Day when All these Third party Game Companies/publishers Stop Treating the Wii U like they did with the wii/ Gimping On Us and GIve Us Everything/plus DLC With ZERO BullShit, Then sales Will IMPROVE regardless of which Console or PC they put it on!