Before we get into the meat of this article, this news is as being reported by VGChartz. VGChartz is a controversial source of sales information because of the way they gather their information. If you’d like to read why we don’t usually source VGChartz, check out this excellent Gamasutra article. That being said, take this with a grain of salt until we have more conformation from reputable sources. The news was first broken by Forbes, who reported that according to VGChartz, the Wii U outsold the Xbox One the week before Christmas, managing to move 319,860 units that week, while the Xbox One only sold 307,366. There’s plenty of reasons why the Wii U may have overtaken Microsoft’s latest consoles and raw, incomplete sales numbers only paint half the picture. Still, there’s no denying that the Wii U has done decidedly well this holiday season, with many analysts still calling for its death. Here’s a look at charts for that week: We won’t know the full result of the Wii U’s impact this holiday season until Nintendo reports on its financial quarter sometime in the next few months. What do you think? local_offer microsoft Nintendo wii u xbox one stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when Dj Awesome. I hope this will shut up Microsoft fanboys if it’s true. Reason Pls don’t be stupid fanboy yourself. Let’s hope all consoles will sell well and have tons of exclusives. And most important less kids sayin PS4 ruleeezz XBONE SUCKS WII U NO GAMES PS NO GAMES XONE RULES and so on. Shut the fuck up. Dj That was uncalled for, dude, you must be an immature little kid for saying that MetroidZero Calm down. Squid Let the stupidity begin readypembroke Your punctuation totally sucks. I learned how to punctuate properly in elementary school. ilovegoogleglass He’s right tho…. HyperTallih http://i.imgur.com/H8clR.gif DarkLegacy Lol that gif xD Colin Tosh Xbox fanboys have been in denial since the console was revealed. This had failure written all over it. I think its funny how people pretend/ignore the impact DRM had on this system. They’ve annoyed an awful lot of people and only the blind fanboys will follow them now. I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if Wii U beats it in lifetime sales. Dj All of the Xboxes are great consoles, but Microsoft is too greedy. On top of that the more arrogant, cocky people are on xbox. HyperTallih 1 Wrong. xbox = epic fail 2. Agree microsoft is too greedy. 3. Agree cocky and arrogant people are exclusive on xbox one. peeer I hope you realize that Microsoft changed that DRM policy way before the launch of Xbox One when they realized their error. By The Way, Sony confirmed that they won’t dictate 3rd party game developers not to use DRM on the PS4. So in fact, the PS4 and Xbox One both have the same or similar use/implementation of DRMs. Heck, even the PS3 had DRM implementations and they were never used. Your argument about DRM is old and especially useless now that Microsoft reversed that policy way back. Colin Tosh You should see my comment below. It isn’t useless since everybody I know is still scared they will bring it back later. You cannot guarantee they won’t bring the policy back. That is one of the problems. The update was nothing more than desperation when Sony were wiping their backsides with Microsoft in pre-orders. It doesn’t mean the policy is gone forever. Only temporarily. And to compare Sony allowing third parties to use DRM methods to what Microsoft was trying is complete madness. Microsoft were forcing you to have an online connection so they could scan your system daily. The biggest glare though is they stand back and require you to pay to unblock the game so it can be used on other systems. The payments is the main thing people have problems with. Sony never had this type of policy and that is why people went with PS4. Its a whole different scenario. Microsoft were attempting to control and monopolize their consumers to do and pay anything they ask. PS4 doesn’t even require an online connection so my point about DRM is far from useless. Especially when nobody can say they won’t bring it back again. peeer So by your logic… Microsoft are more likely to BS their fanbase than Sony for advertising a feature to help sell their products and later cut it away because they can? Let me remind you who’ve pissed off their fans when they removed OtherOS… Before you come at me saying OtherOS isn’t the same thing. I just wanted to point out the fact that you seem to think Microsoft is more likely to do that kind of BS when Sony did it in the past. Magnus Eriksson So, if it doesnt sell better than XBOne, will you say that Wii U had failure written all over it? Daniel Gonzalez PS4 also sold quite big. For a console that doesn’t have many big hit titles as of yet, that’s quite impressive. Back to the Wii U, it’s nice to see it doing far better than before. 319k is nothing to sneeze at. Despite people hating Xbox One, it’s still doing well, but it’s surprising that even PS4 is doing far better than it in Europe, which is normally Microsoft frenzy. All in all, just speaking as a gamer in general, sales for consoles are looking great. Let’s hope it keeps up. 🙂 Andy Samson lol, what are you talking about. ps4 no big titles? it has every AAA multiplat the xbox one has. it’s only real advantage is that it’s $100 cheaper. Anthony Sibilla He means big AAA exclusives worth playing. Andy Samson LOL he did not say “exclusives”. So Assassin’s Creed IV and Need For Speed: Rivals are not big enough or worth playing? jjbredesen No because you can get those titles on other consoles. most people already own a PS3, 360 so they don’t need to upgrade to play those games. Petri Same was for Wii U, most of its titles were on other consoles, and in many cases, late and gimped ports on Wii U. jjbredesen True, but that has now changed and that is why the Wii U sales have started to pick up 🙂 Anthony Sibilla When he mentioned “big titles”, I think he refers to the big exclusives yet to come. Petri Neither has PS4. Ps4 has Killzone, xbone has Dead Rising 3. I don’t really care for either, and rest of them aren’t what one could call even remotely “AAA exclusives worth playing” Squid Seriously… I’m starting to despise games with guns and zombies, Daniel Gonzalez Exactly. It’s too soon for that. You won’t see a good library for some time. Jason Calm down. He said the PS4 didn’t have any huge titles, he didn’t say Xbox One does. The truth is both PS4 and X1 have no huge games out yet. Jan Here in Europe the PS4 is way more advertised than XBone (at least in my country), the hype was enormous! We can discuss forever over how much the hype was justified but still, people bought the console almost blindly 😉 On the contrary, I’ve never seen a single WiiU commercial 🙁 Hugh Quinn from my understanding, wii u ads are where the kids channels are at, well at least in the UK. CMB the hype Daniel Gonzalez Hype or not, it’s still good sales. Colin Parks not hard when there is no xbox stock Relick This is PS2 era part 2. At least this time the PS4 is the most powerful of the 3 consoles so it’ll be nice to have the most powerful console the winner this time. Googs They haven’t even launched in all countries yet and they’re already out of stock? I doubt that’s a good sign. Petri You sure? There seem to be plenty in stock now. I thought people said PS4 was hard to find, but that sold over 2 times more. Stephen Macneil Exactly. Quite hilarious watching non objective fanboys claiming victory here. I love my WiiU but lets all be real here. Drugs Yea that’s grossly inaccurate… On three different occasions in the past two weeks I’ve gone into GameStop and EB games and have literally been told that they have “Plenty” of XB1s in stock… more surprisingly is that they even had an influx of used XB1 hardware and software already… I bought a used copy of Dead Rising 3 for my little cousin in Texas. Stephen Macneil I really hope you’re right but I know an xbone could not be found. If the wii u truly outsold xbone on its own merits then fantastic. I really believe it’s due to supply not meeting demand but will gladly admit I’m wrong if that’s not the case. Gamer Mania Wii U – 5 Million PS4 – 3.4 Million Xbox One – 2.4 Million Now… who said that the Wii U was the dying console? I’m sad to say but the Xbox One is looking to be a Jaguar of this generation… wait… I’M NOT SORRY!! XD Relick WiiU has been out a year, compare it to last years sales and you’d have: PS4 – 3.4 XO – 2.4 WU – 1.8 🙂 uPadWatcher Double standards much? jdiaz1994 Seriously, they attacked the Wii U for the weak start but now they demand sympathy for their consoles. Squid That’s how it usually is. Relick Double standards? Where? I fucking love my WiiU, I was stating facts not opinion. 504HotBoy Those are launch number sales and the demand will be high if you want to be fair. PS4 – 3.4 (end of 2013) Wii U – 3.1 (end of 2012) Xbox One – 2.4 (end of 2013) Don’t forget Wii U sold 3.1 million units by the end of last year and also preoders for the Wii U began 2 months before the consoles release. Preorders for PS4 & Xbox One began 7 months before their release. If you’re gonna look at things, look at everything and all the facts. People tend to overlook the most important things. Wii U lack of software and marketing affected it’s sales in the first 8 months of 2013. Hopefully Sony & Microsoft won’t go through a drought in games like that. That was simply terrible. Relick OK fair enough then Squirrel09 well to be fair about the numbers. Technically there is still another week to be counted towards PS4 and XBOX. uptownsoul Yeah but that just proves nintendo’s marketing sucks because PS4 has a lack of software but selling better than Wii U’s launch. and the wii u only sold 800K in 9 months (Jan ’13 – Sept ’13). The PS4 is going to sell 800k by the end of March ’14, EASILY(probably another Million). 504HotBoy There is no denying that. Nintendo marketing on their Wii U was a disaster. Little to no advertising for the Wii U. The last few months they stepped it up though, hopefully in 2014 they can continue and get more aggressive on their marketing. PS4 didn’t sell that much better than Wii U, as people making it out to be. It was available for preorder since April 2013. So people had a total of 8 months to purchase a PS4 from 04/13 to 12/13. Wii U preorders started September 2012. People had a total of 3 months to purchase Wii U 09/12 to 12/12. But the Wii U was also available in Japan and PS4 wasn’t. Even though it was only the last 3 weeks of December it became available (12/08/12), the point is it still was out there. Im stating all this, because you have to factor in everything, if you’re going to make comparisons. uptownsoul but the pre-order timeframe discrepancy is of no consequence. “People had a total of 3 months to purchase Wii U 09/12 to 12/12.”–Okay, and everybody who wanted to purchase the wii u in those 3 months (09/12 – 12/12) made their purchase, did they not? Or are you suggesting that people who wanted to pre-order the wii u between 04/12 to 08/12 gave up and decided not to purchase in 2012 at all? 504HotBoy It does make a difference. That’s just like saying the PS4 & Xbox One went on sale in April of 2013. If something is on the market longer, it has more of a chance to sell more. The Wii U has over 5mill units sold, only because it been on the market longer than PS4 & Xbox One. Had it been released around the sametime. It wouldn’t have that many units sold.Which I payed for my PS4 in May 2013. So I already had my PS4 bought and payed for, but didn’t get it until November. Im pretty sure im not the only person who preordered a PS4 that early. I preordered my Wii U in October and got it the next month. There’s also a lot of other factors too. Sony had a big buzz since February 2013, when they first shown the PS4. Nintendo buzz was no where near that big, but still sold well cause of it’s core fan base. Once that passed Wii U sales dropped cause of not only no games, and poor marketing, but because a lot of people was unaware that Wii U was a new console. True story: my coworkers thought the gamepad was a add on to the Wii and even still referred to it as a Wii. I had to explain it to them. There have been several people who I ran into didn’t even know what it was and only knew of the Wii. Because of reasons like that, that made Nintendo sales drop drastically throughout 2013. Which is why I agreed their marketing sucked. Everybody knows that PS4 & Xbox One are new systems, because of how well they were marketed and they had a nice buzz going for them. So the sales was no surprise. It actually was a surprise Nintendo manage to sale 3.1 mill units, considering they hardly marketed the Wii U and it wasn’t up for preorder that long. uptownsoul I’m not disagreeing with you on the hype (which Sony did perfectly). And i agree with you on the marketing which sony did better than nintendo. The specific thing i disagree with you about is the pre-order timeframe. Even if Nintendo had doubled the pre-order timeframe i contend that everybody who wanted to buy a Wii U from launch through Dec 31, 2012 bought their console with or without a pre-order. Thus, relegating the “extra” pre-order time irrelevant. Everything else you’ve said, i pretty much agree with Johny i thought that as soon the “true next gen” consoles arrive, they’ll bury the wii u and the wii u will die in an instant,…. its what everyone led me to believe John Andalora Nice to see that people will compare one year of sales for their favorite console to one and a half month sales for the other two and call it fair. Really shows a balanced and fair standard for all. 504HotBoy This a more fair comparison: PS4 – 3.4 (end of 2013) Wii U – 3.1 (end of 2012) Xbox One – 2.4 (end of 2013) All those are the first month and half sales of each console. Drugs I still don’t agree that’s a fair comparison considering the XB1’s Pre-order window was about 3.5 times longer than the Wii U’s and the PS4’s pre-order window was a record breaking 5x longer than the Wii U’s … Really upsets me that none of the media outlets took that into account and have passed the PS4 and XB1 sales numbers off as “Recording Breaking” when the Wii U did just as well around the same time period during its release. 504HotBoy I agree that people had more time to buy PS4 & Xbox One. But the media is just mainly looking at it from when it first was released on the market. So from that point of view. That’s pretty huge news that PS4 sold a million in 24 hours. But if you look at it from well, hell they had 7 months of people buying it through preorders, it becomes a different story. It sounds better and make much better headlines and news as PS4 sold a million in 24 hours. Nevertheless it’s still good sales. To be honest I don’t think PS4 is a big threat to Wii U in Japan like people are trying to make it out. I said it once before, the Japanese market/consumer is extremely different from western markets. Look at the history, all consoles that sell well and do well over there, have those key Japanese titles. The PS4 don’t have any of those type of titles as of right now. The PS3 is more of a threat than PS4 to Wii U. Cause it has the games. That’s why 3DS is killing Vita over there, it has the games, the reason why Snes killed Megadrive, the reason why PS2 killed Gamecube & Xbox. You get my point, until the PS4 looks more attractive to the Japanese consumer, it won’t be a threat to the Wii U in Japan. tom Interesting figures. Do you have a link for that? Thanks. 504HotBoy No I don’t. But that’s common knowledge. Especially, if you follow gaming news daily. Go search it in google. Im pretty sure you will find a number amount of sources. jrob23 I think PS4 and Xbox One sales are also seriously skewed by the fact that there are so many people who bought multiple consoles to be resellers on craigslist and ebay. I have never seen the like before. Those sites are littered with so many listings. It was present with the Wii U as well but resellers quickly knew there were not going to be shortages so they returned them to stores quickly. This time around, they are more stubborn and despite widespread availability they still have them up for sale. I don’t think there will be a much in the way of sales boosts for them until next Christmas when there is a price drop, less competition from the PS360, and better games. Hey, exactly what happened with the Wii U!! Go figure! RockieOllie Kinda unfair to compare a console that has been out a full year to a console that has been out a couple months. Knowing that, that makes the comparison a whole lot worse, when it took the other consoles a couple months to reach half of the WiiU total sales it took a year to generate. Keeping it reel here guys. Thats not to say 2014 would be sick for the Wii U can’t wait for Smash and Mario Kart Zombie_Andrew Let’s clear this up, I’m glad the Wii U is selling well, but if the xbone and ps4 had released in Japan before Xmas it’d be a different story Relick The WiiU outsold 360 lifetime sales earlier in the year in Japan. MS is focusing even less on Japan with the XBone so to be honest it is of no threat in Japan. PS4 on the other hand… the Japanese may have a bit of a grudge because they are getting it last, however they’ll quickly turn around and the PS4 will win over there too. I don’t want to predict sales figures, but eventually we’ll probably see something like this for market share: North America: PS4 – 45-50% XO – 35-40% WiiU – 10-15% Europe: PS4 – 70-75% XO – 10-15% WiiU – 10-15% Japan: PS4 – 55-60% WiiU – 40-45% Rinslowe ” however they’ll quickly turn around and the PS4 will win over there too.” When it comes to our gamer buddies in Japan, it’ll all come down to the games.If those games are present during launch it’ll sell, but if not then it’ll have a slower start than some may anticipate. One thing is certain though, Sony has really good taste in games overall and generally shows a much more varied palette than MS in every way… So for the long run, I personally believe PS4 will be a hit in Japan as well. Actually despite the fact that I’m a graphics buff (ala PC) as much as a pure gamer for innovative experiences (via anything Nintendo), I’m thoroughly looking forward to picking up a PS4 when the right game comes along… Relick That’s the reason they are launching late in Japan. By the end of February there will be games that the Japanese want to play. Squid I’ve been in Japan, I’ve seen Wii U commercials and ps4 commercials, but not a single Xbone, I think it’s the difference of liking over there, they like RPG and such, not saying they don’t like platformers or shooters. Yen Not necessarily. If they had released them in Japan let’s say the same day as US release date. They’d have less units to sell in the US assuming production rate stays the same. In other words, PS4 wouldn’t have been able to achieve the 1M day one sale because at least 15% of those units would’ve been allocated to Japan. Zombie_Andrew I think Sony and MS would have just adjusted their numbers, plus VG Chartz is NOW reporting Wii U was outsold by XBO unfortunately. Still with the lineup 2014 has a lot of people who bought a PS4 or an XBO will be purchasing Wii U’s next year with the sheer amount of awesome being produced currently on Wii U. All Nintendo need is to market the console more and have some screenshots of Zelda U to keep us excited until E3 to keep up the possessive anticipation. Where I’m absolutely sure they’ll have a playable demo at E3, or even at Best Buy if they do the same thing as they did last year (I’m hoping they do European Malls as I live in the UK) Plus I’m hoping Watch_Dos will sell well on Wii U because if it does we may get the Division and The Crew which may turn some heads. David Trail Yes, get in there Nintendo! Rinslowe Rugby! Antimo Pica I think this is a good result for Nintendo. Now we need more big 3rd party games on the wii u!!! For example I think it’s frustrating that Fifa14 is still not available on the wiiu… tom I just bought Lego Marvel and Assassins Creed Black Flag! I think once the Wii U hits an additional 2 million sales or so the 3rd party software companies will give the Wii U another look. Rinslowe Definitely if the system continues to sell well, third party support should increase. Hopefully Wii U gets some more exclusives or if ports are the way to go, then proper optimisations and gamepad support, + Miiverse integration etc… Otherwise as a multiplatform owner, I will always go where gaming experiences are best on any given platform. But, I will support Wii U where effort has been made to tailor said experience to the consoles strengths. NFSMU/ Deus Ex etc… 🙂 Marcel Kleine Wait, N/A at Japan? Cat42 XOne has not been launched in Japan, yet. Marcel Kleine So that means Xbox1 would’ve outsold Wii U if it has. They would’ve easily sold 12k units in Japan. I don’t think this is so much of an accomplishment at all. Nintendo is very lucky the 3DS sells well. Drugs Did you look at the XB360 sales at all? .. The XB360 sold under 700 units this past week and has only sold about 1.6 million in almost 9 years over there… The XB1 wouldn’t have done much better… The Xbox brand doesn’t do well in Japan… Its pretty common knowledge. crocodileman94 Pretty much like Nintendo in UK (not including the rest of Europe). Googs ‘Wii U is doing terribly’, meanwhile the Xbox One is selling the same amount of consoles Daniel Carvalho Yet no one claims they should leave the hardware manufacturing and start developing for the other two consoles to save themselves. Googs Even more, people are denying this since it’s from ‘VGChartz’, which is quite the controversial website, yet when they where talking about Wii U they all jumped on it, even if it came from VGChartz. Weird, right? FutureFox Very. I guess that’s what they call selective reasoning. Josie the Sketcher *sigh* I hate console wars!! Coffee I hear you. Especially the console vs PC war Daniel Gonzalez Who doesn’t? Michael Hancock I don’t because Nintendo always wins. Magnus Eriksson Ashley King Mod • a month ago − “I’m only going to say this once and I will continue to delete comments that bring it up. We are not relying on VGChartz to provide sales figures for any consoles on any of the GameFans sites. If you need to know why, this is why: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-b… Until an official group like Media Create or NDP releases numbers, we’ll report them then. If you continue to post comments citing VGChartz numbers or asking why we don’t have certain things up, I will delete the comment. It’s not conducive to conversation about the specific topic at hand. If you have issues with our coverage, email us.” Lol. Yeah right… Javier Smith Magnus, there is a very clear disclaimer at the beginning of the article. The fact that it made it on Forbes makes this relevant, I think. Although a big caveat is that Nintendo has three markets to sell to while Microsoft only has two. Daniel Gonzalez It’s not a reason for WiiUDaily to report this if WiiUDaily is going to delete comments relating to anyone citing VGChartz. That’s hypocritical and you know it. Lol. If she(Ashley) made a mistake, then perhaps the news post should be deleted. Magnus is correct on this. JB Loophole? Lol Magnus Eriksson Doesnt matter. Its not the point. crocodileman94 lol Rinslowe Hence the use of the word “rumour”. If it was passed as news then you would have a point… Magnus Eriksson Nope. Still got a point – a strong one. Rinslowe I suppose that the stance made according to Ashley’s original comment is quite strict on commenting VG Chartz no’s. So I agree there. Still, as a rumour I also think it’s not that big a deal to report this information as it does not try to pass itself off as factual in any way. Unlike some posters in the past taking VG Chartz statistics as fact. So no, you have a mild point at best. Especially considering that since that stance was taken, not one poster has tried to use VG Chartz no’s as fact and neither has Wii U Daily policed the use of their statistics from then to now… 🙂 Magnus Eriksson Its a strong point. Also this is the worst kind of censorship possible, because its evidently random without clear guidelines. For my part I couldnt care less if people are posting links to these pages – that sometimes are censored, other times not. If people disagree on their factual content they can always debate it. But hen admins clearly – in a very pompeus manner – states that they will censor everyone who refers to this page, and in the next minute use it themselves, then they are talking with two tounges. Its also a very good example on bad journalism, even if they state that its “only a rumour”, from a page they earlier have deemed so unserious that they will censor everyone who mention that page. So nope, my point is strong and valid. Daniel Gonzalez Well said. Magnus Eriksson The most fun part is that admins earlier stated that it wasnt even debateble, when writing “I’m only going to say this once and I will continue to delete comments that bring it up.” Say it only once – not open for debate. JB You’re on a roll today, man! 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Yet, it’s okay for them to talk about news that relates to it. I think the funny thing is how there are some here actually defending this kinda thing when they know deep down they are wrong. Lol. Magnus Eriksson Yeah, of course. Well, if you are consequent of course. And sadly this page is not. Rinslowe Why do you insist on applying your opinions as fact? I don’t think I’m wrong at all for example regarding this topic… And I’m defending Wii U Daily’s right to post VG Chartz information as a suitable rumour because for me personally, I don’t think it’s terribly bad of them to do so. Not being sold as fact for eg… 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Cause the facts are there and Magnus showed a source that leads to that conclusion. If you are really that against them Rinslowe, then perhaps you should talk to people who share your point of view? Just a thought there for you. ” I don’t think I’m wrong at all for example…” As for claiming that I try to make my opinions facts, you should practice what you preach and learn that you aren’t very right at all, if anything, you seem very delusional, or just don’t accept facts too well. There’s no reason to hold a grudge just because I don’t go against my own beliefs just to make you happy. Oh right, lies and slander. I know Rinslowe, you are right and everyone else is wrong. I get that. It’s been clear for a while that you don’t like the truth too much. Modesty never hurts nor does accepting your own errors. 😛 Rinslowe This possibly could pass as hate mail. If you want to preach Daniel, first kindly learn how to practice… 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Ahhhh,….how funny it is to get under your skin. “Look Gonzalez, learn to leave the past comments where they aptly belong. If you can’t debate something without making it personal – then son, you have a condition.” Seems to me you’re the only one taking it personal by expressing yourself in such words. Relax now and take a breather. “Why do you feel the need to constantly write your comments as though you are speaking for anyone but yourself. Others that know my commenting also know that I am fair and able to admit when I have been wrong. You accusing me of being anything less is just your only friend…” That one is debatable from what I’ve seen. Also, I don’t speak for anyone. They are more able to do that themselves, however, I am willing to support them if I see that they make a good point. As for practicing, you should show it more often and not be so judgmental as you’ve been to me. If you don’t like it thrown at you, then learn to be civil and you will receive the same in return. Otherwise, don’t expect me to play nice. Perhaps you should just stop responding to my comments if you aren’t impressed with the result. Life is that much easier.:P Rinslowe You wrote that entire post to perpetuate hate and anger. Nothing more. It’s basically the same theme from top to bottom. 🙁 Daniel Gonzalez Sorry for that, but I don’t buy a word of what you say until you can show some manners, mate… 🙂 I wait the day until you show yours. 😛 *pats you on the back* I’ts okay Rinslowe, everyone has their bad days. I’ll leave you to your thoughts and anger over a video game site. Maybe tomorrow, you’ll feel better and be in a better mood and not take all responses as an attack. Also again, if you don’t like what I have to say to you and know I won’t get along with you, then you are wasting only your own time. If you take my response as “hate” as you like to call it, then maybe you should move along to a commentator that has a similar personality than yours. Perhaps you should show these manners you claim to have and let it go, that is if you feel you are the mature one. 😛 Rinslowe Again with more anger and resentment. Once more, please kindly point out Daniel where I have not shown you manners or civility in the past four comments… 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez “Again with more anger and resentment. You do realise that of the two of us here. There’s only one person that seems angry and upset of a video game site. And that is not me friend. Sorry to say but all you have to do is go back and read our discussion… Once more, please kindly point out Daniel where I have not shown you manners or civility in the past four comments…” 🙂 As I said Rinslowe, if you want to hold on to that belief, then I would say do so. You only waste your time. You know I won’t get along with you cause our personalities clash, and not in a good way. As it’s been evident. With that said, why do you keep coming back? ;P Rinslowe “why do you keep coming back?” Why indeed… Does that make me angry or upset though when I do? No, absolutely not. Does that mean I attack others for not agreeing with me as you have said just now? No. Do I make things up just to spite a persons character, when things don’t go my way? No. Do I answer peoples questions directly, even when they aren’t coming from the right place to begin with? Yes, Yes I do… 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Perhaps, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility either. It goes both ways when you try to make accusations right back, correct? 😛 If you think I’m attacking you harshly during the first response, then I will apologize for that, but I’m not apologizing for how I respond for the most part. That’s part of my personality and most likely always will be. Remember one thing Rinslowe, no one person is the same and won’t always respond how you expect them to. If you really do feel that I have bad mannerisms, then you should probably find someone who you think has good manners to converse with. It should be obvious to you that I’m the sarcastic, snarky type. I don’t truly care what you think of me and I know you don’t care what I think of you. If you want civility, then I’m willing to try that with you again, if not, then best to move along. Your choice. 🙂 Rinslowe I never asked for your apology. What I do want is to have civil debates that leave behind personal aspects of characters that are in fact unknown. This is very possible… Daniel Gonzalez Don’t worry, I won’t cower or be submissive. Submission is for my gf. She’d be mad if I was sharing that! All jokes aside, I am willing to put problems behind if that’s what you want. Just keep in mind, don’t expect miracles. I am the vocal, snarky type. If you can handle that, problems can be kept minimal. Daniel Gonzalez “You just want her to do sexual poses is all.” LOL. That was – the – saddest thing I think you’ve ever written on Wii U Daily, Gonzalez. You crazy! Haha… OMG o_O” There’s your evidence that you aren’t always so polite. Even if this was your opinion, it’s still comes off as being disrespectful. So yes, you aren’t much better my friend. You know the comment in question, wasn’t necessary and could have been said nicer than that. So don’t come around here acting like you aren’t wrong. There’s no point in denying it, you should just admit that you aren’t flawless and maybe we can be more civil. 😛 Rinslowe When showing so called evidence Daniel, try showing the part of the conversation that shaped my comment to you in the first place. For more accurate context. “Rinslowe – comment section. • 2 days ago− I just want to see bayonetta 2 mate, please. 🙂 Thanks.” “Daniel Gonzalez – Rinslowe • 2 days ago You just want her to do sexual poses is all. Don’t deny it. “Rinslowe – Daniel Gonzalez • 2 days ago “You just want her to do sexual poses is all.” LOL. That was – the – saddest thing I think you’ve ever written on Wii U Daily, Gonzalez. You crazy! Haha… OMG o_O Daniel Gonzalez It doesn’t take away that your comment was tasteless and sad too. As it wasn’t a necessary comment. Humor is subjective. If you didn’t like the joke, there are better ways to express it. Again, don’t bother covering up for yourself. It’s already obvious you can’t handle blame. 🙂 Rinslowe In the exact same way there are in fact infinitely better ways to express humour. peeer By pasting the whole context you just made yourself look worse. Its showing us that he said it as a joke and you took it personal. >_< Teachs you exactely that replying to each and every comments like you seem to do how it can make situations worse. Rinslowe You may have point. But the joke wasn’t very tasteful to begin with. Should I have just left it? Absolutely. But I didn’t. That was my real mistake here. Was it personal? Maybe a little, yeah. But not drastically so. Do I look worse than Gonzalez? I certainly don’t think so Peer. And the remaining conversation shows that we both are capable to take things further than they need. Thanks for your critical eye. I actually agree with it. 🙂 This is also worth considering IMO… http://wiiudaily.com/2014/01/rumor-wii-u-xbox/# ComposedJam I know I’m not part of your worthless debate, but I feel compelled to ask you. Do you honestly proofread your posts? Do you actually try to be a hypocritical, ill-informed ass hole? I only ask because I’m curious if a person as stupid and ignorant as the way you portray yourself actually exists. You’re probably just a troll, but it seems like you actually attempt to put some “humanity” in your posts. Which leads me to believe you might actually be as stupid as you portray yourself. Daniel Gonzalez “I know I’m not part of your worthless debate, but I feel compelled to ask you. Do you honestly proofread your posts? Do you actually try to be a hypocritical, ill-informed ass hole? I only ask because I’m curious if a person as stupid and ignorant as the way you portray yourself actually exists. You’re probably just a troll, but it seems like you actually attempt to put some “humanity” in your posts. Which leads me to believe you might actually be as stupid as you portray yourself.” Revert back to my last comment to you my friend. The response will be the same no matter what. You’re right, you aren’t part of this debate, which gives me a reason to ask a question back. Why are you bringing yourself into it? If you feel that I’m a stupid, hypocritical, ill-informed troll, then move along and follow your own advice. ComposedJam You have a knack for responding to people pointing out your flaws without actually answering their questions.. I’m not part of the debate, but if you actually read my post you can find out why I’m bringing myself into it since it is the first thing I typed. (wow) I do feel this way, because you are. But, as I said before and have to reiterate because you don’t read well, I’m curious about your logical process and if it’s actually how a human thinks. Because it is very, very illogical. Daniel Gonzalez Never nice to judge others you barely know. First time impressions are so deceiving. But hey, I’m not one to care what you person over the internet feels about my logic. If anything, you’re thinking too deeply from what I see. As said before, if you feel the way you do, then why are you still conversing with what you call “illogical?” 😛 ComposedJam Why am I still conversing? I think it’s funny that you ask a question that I’ve answered twice, but I have to ask you twice to answer any questions! You see? Funny little things like that make you an interesting person to talk to! You don’t think, but you think you do and it is intriguing And, it’s quite funny at this point actually. I reiterate, your illogical thought process is exactly why I’m responding. and, well, because you love the last word and you know it 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Awwwh….you say the most heart felt things. I’m flattered. I thought you were done btw? That’s quite illogical. 😛 Rinslowe “You have a knack for responding to people pointing out your flaws without actually answering their questions..” Actually this is extremely observant of him. ComposedJam Wow, did you read your post? you’re quite the asshole. Daniel Gonzalez I’m not worried about your judgment, but you are entitled to think what you believe is true. ComposedJam But, answer the question. Do you actually read your posts and think “yep, no hypocritical nonsensical crap here” because it doesn’t seem like it. Daniel Gonzalez Indeed I do. As I’ve always tell anyone who appears not to like my response style. If it offended you in any way, then it’s best to move along or just say so. Rinslowe from what I’ve seen, gets upset and attacks back, which only makes him just as guilty as the rest. If you think I”m trolling, then I’m not going to bother to change your mind on that, but most of my comments say otherwise. You’re entitled to believe what you wish, but that never changes the reality of the situation. If you or anyone else feels that I’m unfair, then it’s safe to say to move forward and refrain from commenting in the future ComposedJam Don’t get me wrong I wasn’t offended at all. You simply give yourself too much credit. Again, if you read my post. You can find out that I’m curious about your flawed logical process. But, now I’m not. I see you’re a fool. It’s always fun seeing how dumb people really are! Thank you and see ya later! Daniel Gonzalez Oh don’t worry I don’t. I have a $1000 limit there. It can suck sometimes. Later now! 😛 Rinslowe ” Perhaps you should just stop responding to my comments if you aren’t impressed with the result. Life is that much easier.:P” I don’t think I actually said any of that did I Daniel… ComposedJam it’s because Daniel and Magnus have nothing better to do then to try and point out every “mistake” that someone makes on the internet. Not only are they not all mistakes, but it’s a folly goal from the get go. Wiiudaily saw that there was a possibility that the wiiu outsold the xbox one during a high profile week and thought to let us know. They made a very, VERY obvious disclaimer and in know way said the claim was true. I appreciate the thought, personally. However, there are some who do not appreciate a news site giving us more articles to read. Wiiudaily makes the rules, so they can bend, break, or alter them as they will. In the end it is best to ignore terrible trolls like Daniel. If he has nothing better to do than to troll this site, ignore him and give him nothing. Rinslowe “In the end it is best to ignore terrible trolls like Daniel. If he has nothing better to do than to troll this site, ignore him and give him nothing.” This is solid advice… 🙂 Magnus Eriksson “Wiiudaily makes the rules, so they can bend, break, or alter them as they will.” Lol, that sounds like Hitlers Crownjurist Carl Schmitt: “Souvereign is he who decides on the exception”. So even if you agree to what you just said you clearly agree that my points are valid. We only differ on the view if its right or wrong to do so – when it comes to the factual content we agree as much as possible. Difference is that I take the democratic stance, while you take a totalitarian and fascist stance 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez Exactly. People have the freedom to tolerate it or not. 🙂 Rinslowe I agree with his approximations of Daniel Gonzalez. But I don’t think you deserve to be on that list. This has been an interesting evening on the Wii U Daily comment section, lol. And something tells me I give these two guys Gonzalez and science too much of my time already. I’m not writing to you Magnus to get you involved but to confirm that at least from my perspective there is no animosity towards you… ComposedJam Well, yeah! Wiiudaily is not a democracy. That much is painfully obvious. However, that comparison is not accurate because you’re comparing a video game news site to government. Those two entities are ENTIRELY different. Wiiudaily does not have the livelihood of an entire civilization at its beck and call. Don’t make foolhardy comparisons please. You are right though. I do agree with most of your points and they do have merit. The fact of the matter is, they can do what they want because it is their site. They posted a very obvious disclaimer and did not say the claim was true. Magnus Eriksson How is this an opinion? Daniel Gonzalez Yeah, that baffles me too. Lol. Rinslowe Lol 🙂 Daniel Gonzalez 🙂 Rinslowe I was replying to this dig actually Magnus… ” I think the funny thing is how there are some here actually defending this kinda thing when they know deep down they are wrong.” This is an opinion… As far as my views on the topic as outlined by yourself. It is pretty well explained and I’ve not held any opinion back to be underhanded or sly in any way. I hope that this is at the least understood? I have no beef with you as you know. And we don’t always need to see eye to eye to still have respect, right? Magnus Eriksson I thought you referred to my comment and not Daniels. Must have read in a hurry. Rinslowe I don’t think they were ever censored, Magnus. I also personally – and let me state again “my personal opinion” only – believe that it’s not a very strong point at all. Because who cares what the mods are saying if they never police it themselves..??. Does that mean when they decide to use information like this as a – rumour – that they are automatically abusing a rule they’ve never enforced? (I don’t think so…) You’re discussing principles here and as a certain other commentor has said on numerous occasions; this is the internet where people quite often say one thing, mean another and do an entirely different thing altogether, lol. It’s just a site man. Not a warm up to presidential debates… Again, I don’t think they have ever policed that comment. So just how important is it? Not very… Still at the end of the day, that is just my 5 cents worth. It doesn’t mean much in the big scheme of things and I’m not even sure why I spent as much energy on it as I did LOL. I guess I just enjoy debating with you! 🙂 Rinslowe Lol, somehow this ended up being replied to someone else… “I don’t think they were ever censored, Magnus. I also personally – and let me state again “my personal opinion” only – believe that it’s not a very strong point at all. Because who cares what the mods are saying if they never police it themselves..??. Does that mean when they decide to use information like this as a – rumour – that they are automatically abusing a rule they’ve never enforced? (I don’t think so…) You’re discussing principles here and as a certain other commentor has said on numerous occasions; this is the internet where people quite often say one thing, mean another and do an entirely different thing altogether, lol. It’s just a site man. Not a warm up to presidential debates… Again, I don’t think they have ever policed that comment. So just how important is it? Not very… Still at the end of the day, that is just my 5 cents worth. It doesn’t mean much in the big scheme of things and I’m not even sure why I spent as much energy on it as I did LOL. I guess I just enjoy debating with you!” 🙂 DragonSilths Meh its an amusing way to spend some time. Mithiragi I hate wars in general. Rich Garriques sorry to burst sony and xbox fanboy bubbles but , nintendo is going to win in the end just like wii did. all it takes is exclusives and the tables will turn. Magnus Eriksson Nothing points in that direction. So this is just wishful thinking. bd-lt-dnkr Everything points in that direction. You are delusional if you don’t think so. Daniel Carvalho No one is a console fanboy until a fanatic shows up and starts bashing the console you own. In the end, we all are concerned about how well your favorite console is doing in comparison to the others so you can have something to counter any fanboy, simply because you can’t like something in peace. Guest I hate wars in general. Rinslowe That’s very healthy. I totally agree. But that’s not to say I wouldn’t partake in one, if there were no other options left but to fight… MetroidZero Remember folks, the Wii U should sky-rocket in sales this year. (Heh, it’s 2014.) 🙂 Nathan C. http://img.pandawhale.com/post-21462-E3-in-a-nutshell-gif-JGL-bike-0r97.gif Guest True dat Squid I think there should be animal crossing villagers in the background walking. But that’s still funny. HyperTallih http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19apa7r7tiw1hgif/ku-xlarge.gif Veritas Why is Nintendo going the wrong way? Michael DeVore They’re not. It’s a two way street, and they’re on the right hand side of the yellow. fireheartis1 It’s like Sony saved Nintendo from Microsoft hitting them lol!!! RoboticLink Yeah! I know this is right before Christmas so the sales are higher than any other normal week, but if the Wii U keeps up selling this well it will sell over 15 million consoles in one year!! Zombie_Andrew Not to be a damp squib BUT Wii U only won because the Xbox One and PS4 aren’t out in Japan yet. No-one is more glad that Wii U is selling well. Hopefully if they can release at least one exclusive a month and show off Zelda U this January in a direct much like Wind Waker HD was shown off last January then I should think Nintendo should be neck in neck at least with sales with the PS4 up until at least Summer 2014, and maybe even surpass sales of PS4 during the end of 2014 depending on what the release schedule and games that come out during the fall and holiday seasons. Suraj Alexander People in japan don’t care about x box afsdljk It is way behind Nintendo and Sony systems, as they are Japanese companies. And a lot of Japanese gamers couldn’t care less about western games. Zombie_Andrew True but I expect that it would have pushed the sales a tiny bit that week tipping it beyond Wii U’s well deserved sales figures Shigeru Miyamoto It seems like the Xbox One is doomed… Sonic the Hedgehog Meanwhile 3DS is kicking well! The Wii U also seems to be gaining now! Alienfish Holy 3DS sales! The_Last_Metroid Batman! Squid OMG that’s hilarious xD Graeme Lynch That’s just 319,860 more people unable to access the eShop… Rinslowe 3DS is a monster! How long is that now in top hardware position? Wii U is in a similar situation as the 3DS was some time ago, as we all know. Maybe just maybe, we could see the same trend continuing on to success over the next 24 months… Daniel Carvalho I predict the Wii U being the best seller of this generation, just like the Wii was for the last one! Why is that? Because the Wii U faced the exact same problems as the 3DS, and has been given the same solutions, not to mention it carries the Wii name. It has lots of exclusives, is the cheapest console of this generation, has been receiving a raising support from third-parties (although still weak), and has great upcoming titles for this year. Expect sales to keep raising, and although VGChartz isn’t very thrust-able, I do believe the Wii U sold well, possibly even more than what the chart suggests. My guess is, either 3rd place after the PS4 or 2nd place after the 3DS. No doubt 3DS is the top seller. crocodileman94 I predict this generation will be: 1.PS4 2.WiiU 3.XBO Magnus Eriksson My prediction is different: 1. 3DS 2. PS4 3. XBoxOne 4. Wii U I base my predictions on available material. What do you base yours on? bd-lt-dnkr What available material would that be. Seeing as how the Wii U sold 2 mil in the first few weeks after release just like the power twins. I’d like to know where you get your ‘material’. Rinslowe Could I get a breakdown on that available material and how your prediction fits within that? 🙂 LoZ4life98 Oh my goodness these comment make it seem like the Wii U has been doing the best of the 8th generation!! The 3DS was dead for about 7-9 months until the price drop and SM3DL+MK7. This is over a year, and the Wii U is still sputtering along. sharlo galmo The 3ds combined with the wiiu, Nintendo wins.the 3ds was doomed and now it is for a couple months the best selling console. 2014 the wiiu gonna do the same like what the 3ds do, so many games for the wiiu. . Kaihaku Microsoft has no one to blame but themselves. The XBone launch announcement and e3 followup were complete PR disasters. Microsoft has since changed the policies that alarmed people but they haven’t regained the trust or respect of many of the gamers they alienated. What Microsoft doesn’t seem to get is that it was the attitude just as much as the substance. In any case, for awhile now I’ve been saying that I suspect that we’d see a substantial sales gap emerge between the XBone and PS4… I just didn’t expect it to start so soon. jhell good John Andalora Ummm……. so what? Xbox One sold 12,000 units less than Wii U the week before Christmas… Maybe I’m not reading between the lines or something, but I’m not exactly sure what this proves. Does this mean that the other weeks of Xbox One selling more than Wii U are invalid (Dec. 14th Xbox One – 306,346 / Wii U – 240,053) http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41623/Global/ (Dec. 07th Xbox One – 258,286 / Wii U – 172,124) http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41616/Global/ Does it mean that individuals will have more fun on their Wii U’s knowing that they beat the Xbox One crowd the week before Christmas? Or does this mean that are fickle and tend to buy things the week before Christmas rather than a few weeks before? I’m not trying to be a fanboy or defend the Xbox One, but I don’t think it matters that one week this console did better than another. We should just have fun with our consoles. Rinslowe What does it really prove either way John? And why are you going out of your way to make it seem less of a positive? The article was written in good taste and even had “rumour” thrown in there to placate over-active activists like yourself. And on top of that I see only one or two comments out of what? 45 at this time of writing, that could be deemed as Nintendo fanboy nonsense… Why advocate yourself as the anti fanboy? John Andalora Why I’m pushing so hard: 1) “seem less of a positive” A) Because I see so many people going “Yeah Screw the Xbone fanboys!” and “XBOX SUCKS!” and stuff like that across forums (not just here), and I’m tired of people trying only to glorify their own without looking at this realistically. B) I’m going out of my way because I’m tired of seeing this kind of “news” being pushed online. Believe it or not, but there are other sites that have posted about this. If all we can say is “LOOK! LOOK! WII U SOLD MORE THAN XBOX ONE THIS WEEK! SEE?” it just shows how low of an opinion the general journalist has on the Wii U. Should we have articles each week on who got the most sales just like this? 2) ” Why advocate yourself as the anti fanboy?” Because I’m not saying “OH, the Xbox One is SOOOOO much better!” I’m just saying that this doesn’t matter. One week of doing slightly better than another console is about as newsworthy as how many dislikes I can get in an hour. Rinslowe In reply to your comment John, straight up as decent fellows; A) Then please feel free to propagate your views on the sites which deserve it. As I pointed out and rather fairly is that there are only a very small no’ of Nintendo fanboy purists spouting useless nonsense. Hardly deserving of your overly critical response here at Wii U Daily as most people even myself who are openly happy about this possibility, are at the very least totally civil and mature with their comments. You should identify that fact I think. B) Being an advocate for potential negativity has nothing to do with being an Xbot or Xdrone or whatever. Anti fanboy is pretty accurate here because while you’re saying this rumour/ news doesn’t matter. Pointing this out is equally meaningless… Just let the Wii U fans enjoy their moment. It’s not like the majority or even a fair amount of people are here on this site being overly obnoxious about it. Right? John Andalora A) I aways hear that “then tell it somewhere else” statement. It’s just usually told in a much more derogatory way. As for the fanboy purists, you’ve seen them. Heck, you even tried to stop a discussion on which kind of fanboys were worse right here. I’d suggest counting again. There are more purist statements now than before, including gifs in this discussion. I understand and identify that not everyone is a Nintendo purist or a fanatical. But I think it’s also fair to take note that there still are those who look down on other consoles, with articles like these only adding fuel to the fire. Some quotes I’ve found here so far: “””sorry to burst sony and xbox fanboy bubbles but , nintendo is going to win in the end just like wii did. all it takes is exclusives and the tables will turn.””” “””Neither has PS4. (games worth playing) Ps4 has Killzone, xbone has Dead Rising 3. I don’t really care for either, and rest of them aren’t what one could call even remotely “AAA exclusives worth playing””” “””Xbox One is a useless NSA approved spy brick with a water cooler function and a shitty TV service that plays video games with a spying device also approved by the NSA…””” B) True. But people have been calling me an Xdrone since I originally posted the first statement. I have a question: Why should we let people enjoy this moment, or even enjoy the moment altogether? If it doesn’t make a difference either way, then what’s the point of having it at all? Rinslowe “Heck, you even tried to stop a discussion on which kind of fanboys were worse right here.” I personally only want to reply to this particular comment because I feel as though the previous reply to you was and still is sufficient. In fact, the comment made by me to this other guy was due to the posters Avatar being brand spanking new… This guy obviously created for the sole purpose of trolling by someone who more than likely frequents this site often… “Why should we let people enjoy this moment, or even enjoy the moment altogether? If it doesn’t make a difference either way, then what’s the point of having it at all?” In fact I read this and felt the need to ask… Really John? So your intention is to take from it what you can because you do not see the point in it to begin with? That my friend is an awful lot of effort for something that apparently doesn’t matter either way… (I say let any fan have whatever moment they want – and why should you want to take from that? I can’t really understand it). I know you get that. Which makes me wonder if you’re just a bit over the top on this one lol… Looking for bad guys in every shadow etc… John Andalora I still think that the glorification of such numbers isn’t “letting them have their moment.” It’s unnecessary mudslinging. If they want to be happy about the massively increased sales, fine. If they want to be happy at how many units the console has sold, that’s fine too. But trying to rate it to the sales of another console as if to imply that sales matter in terms of other competitors, that’s not fine. But, in all honesty, I really don’t care to discuss any further. I’m gonna be a “decent fellow” and just leave. Good night. Rinslowe Good man. As you say it wasn’t worth it to begin with. Personally, I think it’s positive information potentially, as it shows a continued trend in Wii U popularity. That is a good thing. Who cares about the minority of fanboys who think that this is a good place to perpetuate more console war nonsense. Why would anyone want to take to that aspect of it, unless to add to the anti? Have a good one John… Cube It’s funny how this XBone trolls are acting on a Wii U site…lol freaking out. Well they better get used to it, the X1 is history. John Andalora I don’t care for the Xbox One. But I do care that the Wii U news across the board has become so much of “Wii U did better in X against the other consoles.” ilovegoogleglass Clever… HyperTallih i think you made this gif: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/misterxmedia/21549619/97968/97968_original.gif Petri Does Nintendo sites feel the need to report every time Wii U sells worse than other consoles? With excuse “we don’t only report good news”. Don’t know many xbone sites besides daily one, but that isn’t rushing to report this either? But anyways, it’s pretty sad this shiny new “next-gen” console sold less than scrawny “last-gen” console. Xbone is available on all the major markets in Europe, so this progression doesn’t look really good for the system, and in Japan it will flunk harder than 360. MS will probably cut off kinect, and lower price to match PS4. Stephen Macneil This is because there are only limited quantities of the Xbox One. This would be news if the supply of Xbox’s was capable of meeting demand. It’s great the Wii U is finally selling well but let’s not make stuff up or spin crazy stuff. Cube ok well Wii U sold out completely, every Walmart had Xbox One shelves packed. You have to wake up man. Mj78 Wii U is finally picking up – my local GAME store sold out before xmas and now back in stock it is shifting really well again. It has taken time but Wii U has great potential, has some quality games and excellent games coming out. Far from death I would say. What needs to be considered is that Wii U is purely a games machine whereas the Xbone is doesn’t really know what it wants to be. I mean, why would anyone want to play a game and have a video phone chat?? Nintendo will look after itself as always and sales will be fine. HAPPY NEW YEAR gamesplayswill I don’t really care about sales all that much but I am glad the Wii U is doing decently! I know it has been a year, but the xbox and ps4 sales SHOULD die down after the next couple of months. LoBo_UK Mario Kart 8 is probably one of the most eagerly anticipated games of 2014 , it had(has) a huge fan base world wide , the game sold over 35million copies on the wii alone , so you can only imagine what this game will do for wii u sales figures . Kenshin0011 Mario Kart 8 Wii U Deluxe Bundle will fly off the shelves wiimenonowiiu I do know wii u did very well on boxing day at my local bestbuy and walmart cause of the bundels they have wiimenonowiiu I think the wii i did better this holliday than most ppl expected go nintendo wojciech84r . not bad 504HotBoy Speaking on something not related to this. Does anyone have an idea what this unannounced Japanese 3rd party Wii U exclusive is? A lot of people is speculating it’s Devil’s Third and thinking Nintendo is publishing it for Valhalla Game Studios. It’s possible. But it may be something entirely different. Petri Isn’t that a multiplat title currently on development? Is the studio in financial troubles? 504HotBoy Yeah the game was first announced and showed in 2010. It was originally planned to come out for PC, PS3, & 360. THQ was publishing the game, but when they went, Valhalla was stuck with no publisher. Just recently Tomonobu Itagaki said the game was 80 % complete and will release in 2014. Been 2 years since they had any news on the game. Many believed it was canceled. So when the guy from some French game site, who is in Japan right now, tweeted about talking to a developer he wont say and spoke on an unannounced Wii U 3rd party exclusive that’s similar to Bayonetta, and gave hints like blood and bleeding. People assume it’s Devil’s Third. Petri Oh THQ happened, haven’t been following this game that closely . His tweet was pretty vague, not sure if he was talking game like Bayonetta 2, or shocker like Bayonetta 2, or as you link states, game that was previously cancelled. I guess this game might be something people have been anticipating, and could, that game could fit in all those categories. And it is news from Japan, so most likely Japanese dev. Game looks nice though, hope it gets published. 504HotBoy There is a lot of articles on it, but here is one. http://www.explosion.com/50763/rumor-unannounced-third-party-exclusive-wii-u-game-launching-2014/ Jake People will arguer that b/c that Wii U is in Japan it sells better. Well Put XB1 in Japan and Microsoft get 5,000 more units sold yeah… I don’t think nintendo has to worry about Xbox its PS4. Double the sales of Wii U yet not released in Japan which Sony does well in. Gabe Hoffman I know people are pulling the Xbox isn’t In Japan yet argument but face it. Xbox has always done terribly in Japan this won’t be any different Virus6 the 360 couldn’t even sell 1000 units a week in Japan. The X1 would be lucky to sell more than 10K Squid It makes sense for it to pick up, gamers have a lot of games to pick from. You have Pikmin 3. Lego city, SM3DW, New Super. Luigi/Mario U, Wii fit U (not the biggest trend on the list), Wii Party U, Sonic Lost worlds,Zelda Wind Waker HD, NES remix and more. 3rd party even has support as we have Lego Marvel, Scribblenauts DC, CoD Ghost(Not that I appreciate that game), Batman Origins, Assassins creed. Now with these games, you have more than enough to wait for 2014’s awesome games. Phillip Fauble They all sold super well. Ocio Aguilera How useless is the power when there is no creativity. And Nintendo has it all. Adam Howell To be fair, if these unreliable figures are correct, they only just scraped passed the xbox and only because of sales in japan… and the xbox is almost twice the price of a wii U and more expensive than a ps4. With the xb1 and ps4 getting mainly the same games and the ps4 versions of many of those games looking better. I’m surprised anyone is buying an xbox right now, so all things considered xbox are doing ok. Still I have a lot of hope that the Wii U can end up in second place. Rinslowe So long as each system reaches a critical mass whereas hardware manufacturers deem the system worthy of continued support and investment. And where studios equally deem the system a potentially profitable place for their products. First place, second place or whatever, takes it’s rightful place as a subjective topic only… Adam Howell Not really. The wii u needs third party support. Enough sales to make the cost of the investment worthwhile for nintendo aren’t enough to insure strong support for the console. Rinslowe Actually I believe my good man that I did in fact cover the topic of third parties. What you are saying here is not the point I was making… Adam Howell No you didn’t, my good man, and you said, “So long as each system reaches a critical mass whereas hardware manufacturers deem the system worthy of continued support and investment.” Rinslowe What about the part you missed out lol… 🙂 “And where studios equally deem the system a potentially profitable place for their products.” Studios being places where people make games… As in third party… My point as you missed it was that coming in any “place” is really actually subjective so long as the system is supported by it’s creators and that that platform is enticing enough for third parties to invest time and money into releasing their products on that platform. At that point it’s really in the eye of the beholder which system is the best/ first or whatever. And that’s the way it should be too… Adam Howell There’s nothing subjective about being 3rd or 2nd place. That’s a factual comparison of sales. a comparison third parties are going to be seeing. Rinslowe Yes in the literal sense. But as I have to point out once more; Sales no’s do not determine which system comes “first” only which system sold more… Taking that information on a literal bases is pointless if both those parameters which I have described is being met by the manufacturers and the studios while reaching a critical mass for both to be profitable…. Another thing to consider adding to the irrelevance of a literal take on “place” is that selling the most systems does not automatically make it the most profitable system nor the platform with the best games… Again only financials and no’s can be quantified in this way. Which system ultimately ends up with the best games is again a subjective topic… And which system ends up being the most profitable historically does not necessarily need a direct link to total no’ of systems sold… So really how to say which system comes first for eg? Adam Howell So words don’t mean what they mean anymore :S “But as I have to point out once more; Sales no’s do not determine which system comes “first” only which system sold more.” If you’re going to redefine the terms you have to share your definition otherwise you don’t make sense. To most people (And in my original post which started this convo) ‘first’ does refer getting the most sales. Support isn’t binary. It’s not the case that the Wii U will get no support or full support. Developers will almost always prioritise the system they deem to be the most profitable for them. Is that what you define as first? The system that’s most profitable? Rinslowe I think it’s clear that I don’t bother defining first at all, lol And no, words do mean what they mean but they also have the ability to mean other things as well. That is an inherent part of language in general. Again. There is no point in “place” in the literal sense for the reasons I mentioned clearly – total no of sales does not determine automatically which system is the most profitable or which platform has the best games. It also does not necessarily determine which platform receives the majority of third party support; (see the original Wii for eg…). So yes I also agree that studios will prioritise the system they deem to be the most profitable “or suitable for their vision” and it isn’t always the platform which has the most sales or install base ironically (see Project Cars for eg). As far as you pointing out that support isn’t binary that’s actually what I said… Adam Howell But then you can’t turn to someone who’s using first, second and third place when referring too sales and then say that it’s subjective just because you choose not to use those terns when referring to sales. You have to understand what people are talking about otherwise communication is pointless. Rinslowe No I understood perfectly your meaning. I was saying that looking at it in that way was pointless. Frankly speaking, which console comes first in sales alone without any other aspects considered is rudimentary at best and hardly worth using as a metric to begin with. I have also outlined valid reasons as to why . Obviously you simply want to argue semantics. Because where the topic took a turn is at the point you began arguing that third parties were required for the Wii U to succeed. Third parties were in fact mentioned as you can see. But still you chose to ignore that fact like you have chosen to ignore the various points made in regards to the irrelevance of “place” from a pure sales perspective. I won’t bother replying again as it is clear you have no intention of acknowledging any of these points but arguing around them instead. Adam Howell The pointless discussion as I see it. You take objection to me saying I’m hopeful that Nintendo gets 2nd place by saying that second place is just subjective. I make it clear I’m talking about 2nd place in terms of sales and sales aren’t subjective. Now you say you understand what I meant by 2nd place yet chose to ignore it, but it doesn’t matter because I’m arguing semantics. :S If your point is that comparing sales between consoles isn’t relevant I disagree for reasons I’ve stated. But it would be a lot clearer what your point of view was if you didn’t chose to ignore what I meant by 2nd place and start (from what you claim, intentionally) and talk from a complete tangent. Ducked People should notice Wii U is still getting outsold in the West. But that could change within the next three months, now that it’s January the launch hype is over. Daniel Gonzalez Launch hype is at an end. Will the sales drop dramatically? That remains to be seen. Johny HOW CAN A SYSTEM SELL OVER 1 MIL IN JUST 1 WEEK ? jesus.. its just unreal TomcaT MeoW Right now, I’d take these figures with a grain of salt, as the article suggests. The source site heavily modifies their numbers to come in line with other sources (NPD, Media Create, etc) when they become available. So, for historical data vgc is a good resource. Recent data not so much so, though someone would have to track the fresh numbers as it’s revised to see if general trends and whatnot hold out. That being said, if vgc suggests trends accurately with new numbers, then this is good news. It means globally the U is continuing to pick up (regardless of what the other consoles do, lets leave them out of the discussion for a moment). Taken in isolation, the console has finally broken out of its sales slump for a sustained period, so that’s positive. I suppose the tried and true ‘games sell consoles’ should be applied here, and with the line up for the U over the next months, it should continue to sell well outside of the holiday bump. Adding the other consoles back in and focusing on the NA territory, while the U isn’t selling as much as the other current gen machines (PS4/XBO), it’s not riding it’s launch wave either. We’ll see where the current gen sits within the next six months. Either way, 2014 will be fun to watch. mojack411 In addition to this information being from VGChartz, I’d also like to note how the XBone hasn’t been released in Japan yet. Granted, I really don’t think the XBone will sell well in Japan but it most likely would’ve made the small difference of at least 12k units. Good news nonetheless but it’s just hampered by too many technicalities to be really good. Wayne Beck The 360 can’t sell a thousand units a week in Japan. the XOne is not going to sell 12k. Random12multi It’s 2014… Im just waiting for smash bros Lee Skilton The one sold out mostly in that week with no stock available. Virus6 I’ve heard the exact opposite. In fact, most people who work in retail (including myself) saw that there were a LOT of Xbox Ones on the shelf. Hell, even through Christmas, our two cases for display at Target were packed full at noon HyperTallih @Sorahearts are you here? JeanPaul Honestly if you go around to any store, XB1 are all over the place. I think this gen may be WiiU vs PS4. but we’ll see. Coffee All about the games, let’s see what wii u exclusives you can purchase right now, Super Mario 3d world Pikmin 3 Zombiu The wonderful 101 Sonic lost world ( 3ds version is a different game) New super Mario bros u/ Luigi u Monster hunter 3 ultimate ( OK OK, I hear you but wii u version has online co op) Lego city undercover Windwaker HD ( 60 fps, remade graphics, faster boat, just give me this one OK?) I’m not bragging I am just saying when a system has the games sales start showing that, I have a ps4, I think its awesome but it only has 2 exclusive titles and watch dogs was delayed so…… Madmagican Well technically WWHD runs at 30FPS but you have a pretty solid list nonetheless Colin Tosh The entire playing field changed when the system was revealed and the details came out. Planning on charging to unblock used games. A camera which spies on you. The higher price point than it’s main competitor (PS4). Even with the DRM gone this was obviously going to end in disaster. Xbox fanboys just didn’t want to accept it. No company in any market should have the type of control Microsoft was aiming for with this console. Of course Wii U will outsell it. A patch for it on day 1 doesn’t stop them turning around next year and bringing the DRM back again. That is the problem with Xbox One. Microsoft have shown they will take away the used game market. That alone is enough to justify a retaliation. A patch that isn’t guaranteed to stay won’t persuade average Joe to buy it. Everybody I know who wants either a PS4 or XBO is still scared they will bring it back. HyperTallih You’re funny friend Xbox = epic fail Daniel Schwarz “Still, there’s no denying that the Wii U has done decidedly well this holiday season…” Where are you getting that notion from? There are still no official numbers released for sales outside Japan, so I’d say it’s pretty deniable. Rinslowe Well there was that official comment by Nintendo of Nov sales being 340% higher than Oct. It’s then not too difficult to work out the figures there and say, absolutely the US has been showing it’s own upward trend as well… 🙂 Daniel Schwarz That’s true. It’s also the case that Nintendo was putting a positive spin on poor sales numbers. October sales were abysmal. Rinslowe Oct sales were abysmal? By what standard? Out of curiosity toward your actual knowledge of the topic, how many systems were indeed sold in the US – in Oct? 🙂 Daniel Schwarz The numbers for this quarter haven’t been released yet, but it’s called spin. If Nintendo had positive hard numbers to report, they would have rather than talking about increases in terms of percentage. For reference, this was IGN’s take on the numbers when they discussed it in their NVC Podcast in early December. Rinslowe Lol, you do realise the point you just made right? “The numbers for this quarter haven’t been released yet” So I ask again, Abysmal in what way? BTW, July confirmed figure for US was 29000 units. Aug performed the same. Sep increased by 200%. Oct performed similarly again and Nov increased on Oct by 340%… Chong Wii u is and will be crowned king soon,ps4and Xbox are both garbage and a big waste of money….wii u will dominate ,in Asia and in the rest of the world…. Virus6 Playstation consoles are worth owning in tandem with Nintendo consoles. Anything Microsoft is usually a gigantic waste of money oontz exactly PS4/Wiiu combo is THE way to go. Chong Sony isn’t that great at all but will agree with you on the Microsoft ….but wii u will dominate in the future…….in Asia it’s going to be the biggest……and Asia does have the biggest markets in the world….. Rinslowe A brand new avatar just created to spread negativity… No-one is going to take it seriously. You do realise this… Failure, for whoever you actually are on here. Chong Because you say so…please….do som research then speak otherwise enough with your western propaganda….like usual….the Asian market will support the wii u and the Asian market is a million times bigger than the west…. Daniel Gonzalez If Asia is a bigger market, then why are sales in North America and Europe noticeably larger in comparison to Asia? You aren’t making sense at all. You’re the one who needs to do research my friend. Eating paint chips isn’t healthy at all. 😛 Chong Really just china itself has 1.4 billion people and north America and Europe combined has a population of 1.2 billion and their is millions of Asians in it….lol…. Daniel Gonzalez You’re clearly missing the point that even with that fact, the truth is, North Americans and Europeans buy consoles more than Asians since the Asian market as a whole is into MMO games rather than traditional console gaming. China, Taiwan, and Korea for example, are big on MMO’s. The console market in those countries is quite small, so I don’t see your point. Bigger population doesn’t equate to more sales. If you are talking of MMO’s then you’d be correct. As for consoles, you are far off. Sorry for bursting your bubble. You are misinformed my friend. If those Asians you speak of live in North America and Europe, then they are part of the North American and European market now since they aren’t living in an Asian market anymore. Keep in mind, most of them are American or Europeanized. In the US, they make up 5.8% of the population here, in Europe it’s less than 2%. It also depends on what Asians are you talking about? Do you mean Chinese, Japanese, Koreans? Or Indians and other countries surrounding that country? The term Asian doesn’t just apply to people of oriental descent. Google is your friend. I suggest using it. Lol. You’re not making sense at all. 😛 Rinslowe “The console market in those countries is quite small, so I don’t see your point. Bigger population doesn’t equate to more sales.” I don’t support that moron at all, but in fact this will change dramatically in the coming 36 months possibly. China having just lifted a ban on console sales… Of course it will take time for the change to happen but one thing the Chinese love to engage in is brand awareness and shows of wealth etc… Once the official retail stores start opening across the country. Sales for consoles will literally skyrocket. Their govt can see the potential profit to be made from this industry, I can see that after reading their initial policies on the topic. I also have two friends one with his own studio and another working in the commercial dept of another local games studio. Both are now preparing for console development in light of this. Rinslowe ” Eating paint chips isn’t healthy at all.” You’re just a ignorant as he is… Daniel Gonzalez It’s called having a little fun. Sorry if you don’t see the same humor as I. Also, it wasn’t even anything that insulting. You’re sensitive.To be honest, you seem to always follow my comments often while I seem to leave yours quite alone to keep peace. This time, you started on me. So I guess that makes you a moron for calling me a moron. Thank for playing, 🙂 Rinslowe You’re a racist Gonzalez there’s nothing remotely funny about this: ” If Asia is a bigger market, then why are sales in North America and Europe noticeably larger in comparison to Asia? You aren’t making sense at all. You’re the one who needs to do research my friend. *Eating paint chips isn’t healthy at all. :P” That’s plain ignorant. Denying it proves your stupidity. Guest Are you in Asia right now? If so where? Chong is either a Chinese name or Korean. I’ve been in Asia long enough to know this, friend. I personally don’t think you’re Asian at all… More like just another regular poster on Wii U Daily masquerading as some random avatar under pretense of being asian. If you are as you say, then hit me back in your native tongue of Chinese or Korean…. And let us see… Chong 如何有這樣晚上安定我阿從中國門…… Rúhé yǒu zhèyàng wǎnshàng āndìng wǒ ā cóng zhōngguó mén…… Guest 你当然不是中国人，lol。 你的中文非常,不好。。。 你为什么要Pinyin? 因为你的中文是GoogleTranslate的，对吧！哈哈哈！你很笨！ Chong I thought you said you were in Asia lol so you se google translate nice try…. You Americans are so pathetic….. Guest Lol, you obviously are not Chinese and Chong is a Korean name. Sorry for the feign of deception… 😛 If you were Chinese you would have obviously seen that I have written it is in fact – you – utilising Google Translate very clearly. If you cannot read your own language, then obviously your are not Chinese. Also I mentioned very clearly my own country in the previous two texts which you have not been able to read either. Another clear indicator of your deception. Nice try. But sprung is your predicament, lol. 🙂 你很笨! Chong You used translate because you forget to minus google translate when you posted as you see on your post you American dummy lol and if you translate any language on google translate to English it will never make sense …your a fool so next time you say you went somewhere and speak their language try to delete. The google translate part lol…..idiot Americans trying to be smart then again fail… Guest LOL again. If you were Chinese you would have been able to read it correctly. Goodle Translate was placed in there as part of the sentence. Hahaha…. If you could actually read Chinese you would know the context. Clearly you are not. Next time try to use an indian avatar or something really creative that no-one cares to learn the language on. Go back to your troll cave… Chong I stopped reading your nonsense already lol because your a idiot now go play your ps4 and wait for your welfare check….lol….broke american….the Chinese owns part of your country from your billions and billions of dollars you owe…..lol……and a big part….lol Guest Ok John, sure sure…LOL Chong Are you gay John ? Because I am not…..so wait for your welfare check..and try to get someone else……. Chong And who says I can’t read it you idiot it’s just you don’t speak Chinese nor any Asian or any countries language so I type in your little language….keep trying to translate with google good luck fool……and you can’t even speak your own language . Guest 请帮我一下给这个句子发音英文好吗，谢谢您。 小笨蛋 🙂 Chong You fail……lol Guest http://wiiudaily.com/2014/01/rumor-wii-u-xbox/#comment-1188567316 Guest Garbage like you Chong Are you sad little girl in a little boys body….remember it’s Asia that’s the power and not your little America lol…..china is the new superpower. And has 1.4 billion people……if Asia says wii u will be on top then it will be……so go eat out of your garbage can since your broke…….. RARE First story of the year? Really? Xavier Lopez Chabelo Well… XBOX ONE is not going to sell shit in Japan classicgamer20 Suck it xbox Flawless Victory And so it begins. THEMIGHTYDOOVDE I think it’s safe to say console sales of the big three are going to be constantly changing. We still have another 4-8 years left this gen. Im looking more forward to next years xmas sales when all 3 have hit their stride. savagefakhri I think it’s more important to point out that the 3ds is outselling both next gen consoles combined in sales. Angel Lopez Awww poor little PSVITA! It’s getting outsold buy every console of it’s generatioN! Which is a shame because it’a actually really awsome(not as good as the 3DS though) Sylux Well VGchartz isn’t very reliable as also mentioned in the article, take in consideration that WiiU is available everywhere while Xbox one is not. Nonetheless for once whether it’s true or not atleast it’s some good news at the beginning of the new year 🙂 Reggie Fils-Aime I can confirm that Wii U has now sold over 5M units world wide, as for how many units it has sold this week i can not comment on. Reggie DC777 I love how VGChatrz is gospel until WiiU does well then it’s a “rumor”, “VGChartz says”, etc. Dastunna so basically this is my New Year’s present…. sweet Jacob ‘Whit’ Whitaker According to these numbers, the Wii U just barely outsold the Xbox One globally, with the latter console not even competing in the Japanese market. It’s just skewing the numbers to make a good headline; in places where the Xbox One is actually competing with Nintendo, it clearly performed better than the Wii U. BIG Franky yeah but that is the thing…. in the markets in which both consoles are launched, the XB1 should be outselling the Wii U by quite a large margin (given the fact that its only a few weeks old and the hype), and that isn’t the case. THAT is the news story…. Jacob ‘Whit’ Whitaker It sold almost 100k more units in the U.S. That isn’t keeping it close. Both are performing dismally in Europe. There’s no cause for celebration. Shaun Paul Johnston I find it amusing how people keep saying that the Xbox One hasn’t launched in Japan yet. You do realise that even when it has, based on Microsoft’s previous two consoles sales in Japan, it’s very likely it will sell terribly. Basically in Nintendo’s strongest market, Japan, the Wii U will outsell the Xbox One by a significant margin, whereas in the US, Microsoft’s biggest market, their new console that all the devs and media hyped up before launch and how it was going to supposedly make the Wii U obsolete, is only selling slightly better than the Wii U. I say slightly because it’s under double the Wii U sales in the US if these numbers are correct, yet I’ll feel confident in guessing the Wii U will sell consistently better and by several times the difference when the Xbox one releases in Japan. To be honest I was expecting the PS4 & Xbox One to sell about 10 times the Wii U numbers at this point based on all the crap that’s floating around. It’s going to be fun watching PS4 & Xbox One numbers drop over the coming months as they have their own games droughts, while the Wii U starts to get its big hitters like MK8. I’m pretty sure Nintendo gamers will still have to endure inaccurate articles about its inevitable doom and how it can’t show 8 billion blah blahs that I don’t give a f..k about. uptownsoul “It’s going to be fun watching PS4 & Xbox One numbers drop over the coming months as they have their own games droughts” You do realize this is the PS4’s game drought, right? BIG Franky while I agree in principle, as the PS$ & XB1 sales will no doubt slow DRAMATICALLY and go through their own respective software droughts… the PS4 sales will exhibits quite a bump in March when launched in Europe & Japan where presale figures alone account for almost 3 million consoles from what I’m reading…. Zorpix Keep in mind Wii U had an extra region though. And this is VGChartz… I’m optimistic, but cautiously BlazeDog Since when has Xbox ever had good sales in Japan though? Zorpix true. It probably wouldn’t even have mattered XD Still… Cube Cautious? about what? every store around my house as tons of X1’s on shelves. Why would any of us play $500 for a huge box to replace my cable remote control. Sorry Zorpix but the days of Mt Dew and Doritos is over!!! Zorpix You do realize I’m probably a bigger Wii U fan than you 😛 XD Ismael Ototo If anything I’m happy for this… but the Wii U isn’t doing so grest yet. The only reason the Wii U outsold the Xbox One its becase its amazing Japan sales. Neither Microsoft’s nor Sony’s consoles have launched there yet; we all know Xbox One is gonna sell terribly in Japan, they hate it there, so it’s not gonna be much of a difference (just a few hundred units more). As for the PS4, I’m not so sure. It’s already selling like hot cakes and I’m predicting its sales are gonna be pretty amazing in Japan. I have faith in Nintendo, but they has to improve Wii U sales in USA and Europe if they wanna beat Sony. Guest actually, I am 99% sure that XBO’s launch was in fact worldwide and does in fact include Japan numbers…. XB has never historically performed well there. Jonathan George Anaya The Dead Rising creator went on record saying that Japan has no interest in ANY Next Gen console. Games dictate sales; Not Hype. No PS4 launch title is catered to the East. Sony knew this and that’s why they haven’t launched there yet… Think about it. That’s there Home tuff. Sad, really Squid Wii sold more than Psvita Guest It’s a meaningless comparison even if accurate. One week doesn’t matter Rinslowe Now we’re talking! lol 🙂 Comparisons are hardly ever relevant in the way people think they are… Still as far as the Wii U only is concerned it signifies the continuation of a pretty good trend. That’s actually the only thing worth taking from this information if accurate, IMO. Adam Howell But sales comparisons matter to third parties, as we saw this with the N64. 3rd parties were happy to abandon it despite acceptable sales by earlier console standards because the ps1 was so popular. These results are meaningless because the consoles are in very different parts of their lives and its not a trend yet. Rinslowe What do you define as a trend? For how long does Wii U sales need to continue to increase before you would consider it a trend? Adam Howell The Wii U’s sales history, after the initial first adopters, began very poorly with a shortage of noteworthy games. I think a large increase in sales performance from that low start is to be expected, especially over xmas. Likewise the xbox1 has only just been released and has a limited number of games. They had a large number of initial sales, as you would expect, and then the sales started to go down, as you’d expect. It’ll take more time for things to stabilise enough for you to make any reasonable judgement about their likely overall success. I’d imagine we’ll be able to get a good idea where things stand, for all consoles, by 2015. Rinslowe “I’d imagine we’ll be able to get a good idea where things stand, for all consoles, by 2015.” This I agree with, absolutely. MujuraNoKamen Great news, I hope it’s correct, Wii U is more deserving than PS4 & XBO thanks to it’s great games – PS4 and XBO are just not worth the hype right now. Though it’s true PS4 and XBO haven’t launched in Japan yet would they really make that much of a difference? PS4 is a threat but XBox has never been big in Japan and it doesn’t look like that’s about to change. And there’s a reason Sony aren’t launching PS4 in Japan yet – it’s got no games that appeal to Japanese gamers. In the future this will change but let’s not shoot this piece of good news down in flames. Guest actually, FWIW I believe that XBO’s launch was in fact worldwide and does in fact include Japan numbers…. XB has never historically performed well there. Jonathan George Anaya No, the X1 released in only 12 countries compared to Sony’s 32. Japan and much of Europe was not included in the worldwide launch Vitor Samuel http://i.minus.com/ibvoEyh7Nipwpm.gif bizzy gie Wii U would still be ahead. It’s not like Xbox One would have sold well in Japan. uptownsoul NOPE, the Xbox One beat the Wii U in sales for the week leading up to Christmas, where are you getting your facts that the Wii U beat the Xbox 1? bd-lt-dnkr The rumor in this article with the image of a chart attached. Where are you getting your ‘facts’? uptownsoul from the updated VGChartz at VGChartz.com…Its an unreliable source, but at least wait till all the individual regions are in before you start proclaiming a weekly victory. The xbox1 outsold the wii u by almost 40K units Guest Drunk? It still shows the Wii U outsold the Xbox One. I think you are looking at the 360’s numbers. uptownsoul Go to VGChartz right now, the numbers have been UPDATED for the week ending in dec 21st… Wii u sold 319K and Xbox 1 sold 357K uptownsoul check the website right now, it shows almost 40K in xbox favor bizzy gie Are you serious? Did you not just read the article above? uptownsoul THE VGCHARTZ HAS BEEN UPDATED… Go to VGChartz right now, the numbers have been UPDATED for the week ending in dec 21st… Wii u sold 319K and Xbox 1 sold 357K Jonathan George Anaya I bought a X1 Day One and a WiiU on One-One. Happy a New Years! I’m simulating all the Next Gen consoles that actually matter Josie the Sketcher I’m all for Nintendo and will forever support them since they’ve played a major part of my 25 years of gaming – the same goe with Sony. I just really dislike people saying PS4 and Xbox one are better than Wii U just because of they’re more powerful and have realism graphics. I believe all consoles should be treated with respect equally. I love my Wii U PS3 and Xbox 360 the same. Exact thing will happen when I get a PS4. uptownsoul the Xbox One beat the Wii U in sales for the week leading up to Christmas, where are you all getting your facts that the Wii U beat the Xbox 1? darkcreap Just a small, comment, VGChartz has just updated their numbers: PS4 655,970 X1 357,303 WiiU 319,860 So this means that no, it was Xbox1 which outsold lightly the WiiU. Yes, as people point out here, you have to be careful with VGChatz, their numbers are estimates and not necesarilly stable. Nevertheless, not bad figures, but it would be better for WiiU to have better ones. Rinslowe Not to disagree with you here, but updating no’s on what is still only potentially correct is not saying a lot either way… For me it was never about how much are sales doing compared to other platforms. That’s for fanboys to mull over and discuss. My interest is in Wii U sales against itself week on week, month on month. And in what direction are those no’s going… Up, down or just the same etc… The actual figures are not out yet. But as you say, if this was accurate, it wouldn’t be that bad at all. HyperTallih I disagree with you Rinslowe You don’t surprise me there, lol. BTW are you trolling me? HyperTallih Man i’m not a troll and not the downvoter of you but i make jokes. Friends? John Madsen i think they will sell just fine because of the fact that the xbone one and psfour are to expensive for the average consumer triplegamer3K . I love how every ones talking about ps4 and xbone,yet Nintendo’s 3Ds(the console everyone doubted at first)is reigning supreme sales wise. Nikko Ybanez omf!!!! that means a lot like the sales will go so high because it beat it by ONE WEkE!!!!!