The due course disclaimer of taking this with a grain of salt is at the forefront of this post. Remember, most of it is unsubstantiated at this point. According to a post on NeoGAF, it seems as though the Wii U hardware may have been downgraded to deal with overheating due to the size of the chassis Nintendo wanted to maintain for the Wii U. According to the post, evidence for this appears from an Iwata Asks, in which Iwata asks Takeshi Kitano–a hardware developer for Nintendo–whether or not a small chassis was a focus for the console. The answer was yes. Iwata – Was making the casing smaller a clear target from the start? Kitano-san? Kitano – Yes. At the start of development, Takeda-san gave us the task of making the console a “stagehand”, a kind of unobtrusive role behind the scenes. Another piece of the puzzle comes from Vigil Games, who developed Darksiders 2 for the Wii U. According to an interview conducted with one of their developers, development kits arrived that meant the game had to be retooled to work with new hardware because of significant changes. Donald added: “When we got the new kits there were some things in the old build that wouldn’t work with the new hardware and we had to wait for updates. So it’s been a little tricky in that regard.” As stated above this is strictly a rumor, but going over the evidence, what do you think? Did Nintendo reduce the power of the Wii U because they wanted to maintain a smaller console? Let us know in the comments what you think. local_offer Nintendo wii u wii u rumor stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when Emufred before anyone goes crazy https://twitter.com/ShinenGames/status/398435812351565825 XypherCode LOL rumors shattered. Bob Wilkerson It’s funny because I remember reading that too that the initial demo system and dev kits were less powerful than the production Wii U. I am sure Nintendo even issued a statement like that saying the refreshed the hardware updated from the Demo Unit. Wildman Thank you for this useful bit of info! Hulkamania straight from the source… no rumors.. good job. the only problem I’ve ever had with my Wii U is that occasionally it does freeze during certain games.. but rarely. Also, if I lose internet while in Netflix or Hulu, and I go to exit to the Wii U menu, it freezes on the loading screen as well. I’m sure these issues will be fixed eventually. In regards to over heating… my Wii U barely throws out any heat at all. I actually worried about that and I went over, felt the back of the console several times and there was literally no heat coming out… it runs even cooler then the original Wii. pbd2 I had a lot of slow down on darksiders 2, it wasnt a very good game so I traded it but the low fps was quite anoying. Stuart Thomas after the last update my wii has not frozen since, it would freeze 5-10 times a week. Nintendo are fairly smart and try to avoid any ylod or rrod situations. DragonSilths Mine hasn’t frozen in quite along time. Oni I had that problem originally to, my Wii U was freezing during games so i looked into it, and it supposedly was something to do with Miiverse and turning off the multiple languages and keeping it just your home country language fixed the problem. Hasn’t froze since then Akatosh That was only for Nintendo Land. Some of the launch titles *cough* Assassin’s Creed 3 *cough* just liked to freeze. Akatosh The only game that has ever frozen on me was a launch title game. Never frozen since I sold that game (because of the near constant freezing). fireheartis1 Thank you so from what this says the Wii U actually became faster and not downgraded correct? At least that is how I read it. Guest Hey please anyone know why I couldn’t comments in IGN.com that said You do not have permission to post on this thread RockieOllie I hope to Arceus that IGN isn’t running on Google+ like youtube. Cuz I can’t comment on that either :/ starwars360 It is not work on either IE 9 and Google Chrome. 🙁 Someone reply my comment and I couldn’t reply back because of this and I couldn’t comments in any article. Seem IGN.com is broken to me just now. 🙁 Sylux Haven’t been on Ign in ages myself so no idea what happened there as of late, all I hear about ign these days are complaints. Off topic for a bit, why does truthteller all of a sudden get so many downvotes is it because of his usual comments? I honestly do not see what je is saying wrong here, don’t lower yourselves to the troll/hater groups. (adds 2 upvotes on truthteller) beerkin Does it to me too on some threads. usually playstation threads. guess I made fun of colon moroniarty too many times. starwars360 Possible yeah. My comment might be overhyped so IGN is too mood so pick blocked for comments section in everything in IGN.com. I don’t understand. Here site and Xbox360achievements.org never do it to me. They are lovely sites. IGN.com seem stupid do it. Some people like you and me overhyped with game whatsoever good reasons. Weird isn’t? Christopher Acuna Meh. My Wii-U never overheats. Sometimes I leave it on all night and day, not cause I want I just forget sometimes…But, I always feel the console to see if it is getting to hot and I have never felt get as hot as my old 360 or PS3, and it put’s a smile on face. 🙂 Mr Down Vote If they are to do this its better than having it breaking like all of those ps4s at conventions. You still get a down vote though as u used a 🙂 face in the wrong place. Mercurio2054 mine is always cool, playing netflix, games, etc. Nintedward Mine’s cooler than Samuel Jackson 😉 Mario LOL! andrewjcole I’ll be laughing now. Noah Hood My Wii U has never overheated either. But I still wouldn’t recommend leaving it on for long periods of time without being in use. Tecpedz94 Enable auto power off i have it set to like 5 or 6 hours just in case i forget it. Yen Now I’m interested in how PS4 and XBox One deal with heating issues. They’re bigger but they also got a lot more power meaning more heat. Nate CNET has an article with a video of a Sony representative taking apart an entire PS4 and it shows the fan and heat sink. Really interesting: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57611271-93/take-a-look-inside-the-playstation-4-in-sony-teardown/ Hulkamania Sony usually makes very good quality electronics, including consoles… as well as Nintendo…. The only one I would worry about is Microsoft, who clearly can’t make consoles for shit without it having problems. Nate I agree. I have all of Sony’s consoles and I’ve been especially pleased with my PS3. I ended up with an Xbox 360 by default back in the day when there was a Wii shortage. After I finally got a Wii, three years later, I sold my 360 to get a PS3. I had one of the original 360s and was always worried I’d get the RROD. I don’t miss it at all. I was even thinking about getting a 360 now that they are cheaper, but I can’t find any games I’m interested in that I can’t get on my PS3. Halo and Gears of War are fun, but don’t do much for me at all. Although, the original Xbox was great and I still have it hooked up to a tv with my old Wii. jjbredesen Agreed! fireheartis1 Yep I love the original Xbox and kept it. I really never cared for the 360. The PS3 is pretty cool and I play it all the time with my little brother. I figured having the Wii and Original Xbox along with my GameCube games was plenty of systems at the time. I bought the Wii U and kept my Wii for my GameCube games and now I rock all for types of games. jjbredesen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmIhF0-kYYE&list=SPTgGd-qdBzkkh4d3Sm1PA6bRIzwcJnnk1&index=31 fireheartis1 Aw man I love Blunty3000 that dude is freakin hilarious. jjbredesen Yeah and his review’s are the best on the internett. He is always 100% honest and is not a fanboy! Lord Tywin Tell me about it. I got an Xbox 360 at launch. It lasted only two years before dying. Then the replacement died two years after that. My third one is currently fine, but to have gone through not two but three consoles is ludicrous. All of my other consoles, including Wii, GameCube, Genesis, NES, PSX, PS2, PS3, work perfectly fine even today. I think there were major flaws with the original 360 design. I’m not sure how they addressed those errors in the production of Xbox One, but I am steering clear of it due to their track record. XypherCode Actually my first Wii U system overhearts quite a lot then shut downs. Got me very curious as to why then I found out that the fan wasn’t working/running at all. Thankfully they replaced my unit before I even made my Nintendo account and DL stuff. only god can judge me I never had any problems with my wii u overheating.I never had any problems with nintendo hardware since the first nintendo came out they definitely have the best quality when its comes to their hardware I have my wii u on all day in my household and it continues to run perfectly fine. jjbredesen Why would Nintendo make such a stupid choice? Nobody would give a fuck if the Wii U was another inch longer. They could fit a couple more fans and heat sink in there no prob! But i dont really care. The Wii U is a great system and this rumor is bs. Nothing5555 What I don’t understand is why they chose such a small form factor (cost savings?). Even if the Wii U was 30-50 percent bigger it would still be a small device. jjbredesen I honestly dont know why. But they could of done it so it so would fit in to peoples tv cabinets? sounds stupid. Perhaps nintendo devs have very small houses? lol nah Cant think of anything intellegent enough to be a good reason so i guess it has got to have something to do with design. (looking good) Then again they used stupid glossy plastic shit, so i have fingerprints all over the system… also making it bigger would give the components more space to breathe making the system cooler and alowing more fans etc. Mercurio2054 for me is to big… but is me. Andreas Sunde For one thing, it makes the system more portable. If it was the size of a PS4, it would be harder to take with you on the train. Ben Kapferer Isn’t the 3DS supposed to be Nintendo’s offering for portable play? jjbredesen Yes a console is not suposed to be portalbe it is suposed to sit in your living room! TheAquacharger I dunno but I like it. Mine sits next to my comp monitor where as my PS3 has tobe in my living room due to it’s huge size. Nate Seems like a rumor started by an over-sensitive Nintendo fan tired of arguing about the power specs compared to the PS4 and Xbox One. But, if the rumor is true it seems a little silly for Nintendo to confine themselves to a certain size chassis and building the hardware around that instead of the other way around. Anyway. It doesn’t really matter now. I’m happy with my Wii U. Cyberus My Wii U has frozen once or twice, but I wouldn’t say it has an overheating problem Zorpix I just wish they would’ve used a different finish that doesnt show fingerprints or smudges so easily. Seriously my console looked years old a week after I had it :/ Akatosh Or how about a nice sleek black only deluxe set to attract cat hairs? lol. thedeciderU seriously what is the obsession with flashy-looking tech? remember nes and snes? how about n64 or gamecube? haha they all look the same as 20 years ago, or, well, maybe not snes. nasty yellow (not mine luckily). Rinslowe Lol… Just another silly rumour! We’ve all seen and/ or played enough Wii U titles now to know this is irrelevant… Not only that, but all products go through a few changes in the design stage so no real controversy. Darksiders two was a terrible port technically IMO… “the old build” more likely referring to the original code and the “new hardware”, just an early dev kit. “Waiting for updates” has been widely commented as the early SDK’s were shipped with next to no documentation…. It likely also refers to the SDK revisions due to that early issue. I heard they’re on the third one now? includes a more complete toolset and API’s… Gabe Hoffman Sadly I know the Dronys Xbots and Nintendo haters will swallow this BS rumor hook line and sinker Rinslowe Yeah, more than a little bit dodgy on the timing, being so close to “next gen” release dates lol… Conspiracy theories come forth and multiply! tronic307 This can’t be right because the Wii U doesn’t even get as hot as the Wii. Daniel Gonzalez Not much to go with on a rumor. Unless it’s proven true, there’s little to say on it. Nothing5555 Wow did you just create a user account to mock him? Common have a little self respect for yourself. Daniel Gonzalez Trolls have one thing in common, they all say the same stuff over and over. So sad. Deep down, he’s a fan of mine in denial. I also love how the racist comment he made is gone suddenly. 😛 LightupmyLife Ya bro. I gonna bet this guy is TheScienceEnthusiasts1130’s alt. Both of them commented around the same time on playstationstyle lol. This guy doesnt have much to do with his time. Daniel Gonzalez Yeah, noticed that as well. Not surprised at all. This guy has a lot of issues and it’s easy to tell. The fact that he targets me so much must mean he’s in love with me or something. 😛 dforce79 What an a$$. Making fun of you because he cannot face the personal issues he has. Agent721 Meh, who cares. Daniel Gonzalez I know I don’t. beerkin Godamnit!! why not make the damn thing bigger?!?! why not release the ambassador program games?!?! why call it some thing stupid like wii u?!?! Why are none of the big first party titles online?!?! whos making these decisions?! take the person who is, drag them to the end of a long pier and throw them off of it while yelling youre fuckin fired idiot!! D.M.T Calm your tits asshole, this is just a rumor and its wrong, Shinen said its not true. beerkin Aaaarrrrggggghhhh!! runs around in circles, aaaarrrggghhhh, takes a shit on the tv and dry humps the sofa….oh its only a rumor. true….. Cesar Barroso Not true,I don’t remember whom from Nintendo said this, but they tested the Wii U running continuously for around 2000hrs. They are not going to make that change just before manufacturing, everything was planned. The last Chozo As a chozo which is more technologically advanced than anything currently alive I say this rumour is probably not true. Noah Hood I’m not so sure that Nintendo reduced the power of the Wii U to maintain a smaller console. However, the Wii was significantly smaller than the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Now Nintendo’s newest generation of home console still keeps that small form-factor. So maybe they did cut down on hardware specs in order to keep it smaller? It’s possible. Personally, I wouldn’t mind the Wii U being bigger if it meant Nintendo would have upgraded the hardware. Erick Murillo I can see Nintendo likes secure ways to produce hardware. This is very thankful, because prevent have to buy again the hardware caused by the over-heating of the last . Justin Carlson I know this article is confusing, but this is not about changing the current console. This is about decisions before the first consumer Wii U was produced. Don’t worry. Your console does not have an overheating issue. Jared Garcia Nintendo just wants you to enjoy your console for more years than the life of the generation. I mean look at Xbox 360. I don’t think a person could with a straight face say they’ve had a launch model work throughout the last console gen. HungryMetroid everybody I know that has an xbox 360 has had to either get a replacement or send it in for repairs at least once. Dennis People you are reading wrong. This isn’t about the actual Wii U overheating, but over the fact Nintendo had plans for a more powerful console but they wanted it to be small, so they had to downgrade the specs a little so it wouldn’t be overheating. This is not a rumor. Nintendo acknowledged this already even before the launch of the console. People pay attention please! But it doesn’t mean it isn’t a really good console. But Nintendo said it themselves. They said that the console is less powerful than the would’ve liked because they wanted it to be small. They simply underclocked the cpu because otherwise it will overheat with this size. Why else would it only run on 1,24gHz. But I still love my Wii U 😛 Zuxs13 I seriously doubt the size had anything to do with them “down grading”. Look atthe clock speeds of laptops etc they are much higher than the wiiu and even pPS4. The size doesn’t completely dictate the power any more. Nintendo never said they chose weaker hardware because they wanted a small console. That would be a bad business decision. Dennis Nintendo does a lot of weird things. But I can’t find it on the internet but I’ve reads things about it. Maybe I am wrong but I really thought Nintendo said the smaller casing resulted in a lower cpu power otherwise the heat couldn’t get distributed and would build up. Not to say that it is a weak CPU. The Wii U is more powerful than a PS3 for example . Zuxs13 I read all the Iwata asks on the Wii U build and there was nothing said about the case effecting power. There is also nothing in the design that wouldn’t allow it to run cool. you could put an Intel Core i7 full power CPU in this console and not have heat issues. In fact the Iwata asks talks about how great they did with heat sink etc for the APU on this system. D.M.T Where´s your source? Because I don´t remember Nintendo admitting that the console is less powerful than it should be because they wanted the console to be small. So again I ask where is your source? Don´t just comment and expect people to believe you, you need prove that what you´re saying is actually true. Dennis At least I understand what the news article says (unlike many other people who still think current models are getting a underclock treatment or something). But I can’t find my source so you’ve won this round! But I’m almost sure they said it… sd Nintendo have a policy not to discuss their hardware so I would doubt they would say this. But it doesn’t mean you are incorrect as someone else could have made this claim. Dennis Yeah I’m not so sure anymore since I can’t find. I think I read it on a Dutch site but the people who said this would be (bad) developers of course. What I could find was that the dev kits on the e3 were definitely underpowered. But that’s all past. sd One thing I am sure I read was something to do with Nintendos main focus being low power consumption, which most gamers dont care about really. But I do remember an article where Nintendo might have stated something to do with the power consumption being a priority and therefore the specs made this possible. Something like that. sharlo galmo No no no no, Iwata keep saying that the WiiU is not underpower, he keep saying that the PS4 and Xbone don’t gonna be more stronger this time. That is what i can remember! bizzy gie Wii U is underpowered because it’s %100 backwards compatible. That’s also why Wii is underpowered. Dennis That is not true because when you open a backwards compatible game, the CPU downclocks itself to the former GHz. So every CPU could handle backwards compatibility… Mercurio2054 if is in the same architecture. Dennis True 😛 bizzy gie You have to keep the same architecture though. The reason PS4/Xbox One aren’t backwards compatible is because their hardware is completely different. Andreas Sunde So? The clones switched to x86 too make it easier to develop games for them, not because it’s more efficient. bizzy gie But it’s completely different from what’s in PS360. Andreas Sunde Your point is…? bizzy gie That’s why Wii U is underpowered compared to its competitors. It has very close Wii architecture. Rinslowe No, this is not actually correct. Nintendo could have gone with a full fledged Power 7 design which could have been made backward compatible with Broadway at a huge cost to the consumer and included and even beefier GPU with more RAM… But they chose the system that fit their design choice & budget and made customisations along those lines… sd My understanding was that on the GPU there was actually a wii chip and that is why it has pretty much a dual boot OS. I vaguely remember someonebreaking down the chip back in January and stating something along these lines. They also stated that they didnt know what are large portion of the chip was for. Rinslowe A lot of Wii U’s architecture is very different. In fact most of it is. There’s some legacy components in there, but from all the information gleaned so far. Everything points to the majority of Wii functionality being emulated… For eg; Shiota (Iwata asks) “Shiota Yes. The designers were already incredibly familiar with the Wii, so without getting hung up on the two machines’ completely different structures, they came up with ideas we would never have thought of. There were times when you would usually just incorporate both the Wii U and Wii circuits, like 1+1. But instead of just adding like that, they adjusted the new parts added to Wii U so they could be used for Wii as well.” There’s some similarities but “the same” architecture isn’t really the best way to describe it. Take the CPU’s (Wii U : Espresso) & (Wii: Broadway) … Although the most basic aspects of the PPC design doesn’t buck the trend, in fact broadway was never capable of multiple cores. You cannot just strap 3 broadways together for eg. And they were also not possible of 1.24Ghz performance. This points to a pretty robust change in the CPU architecture. bizzy gie The point is that many of the parts have to compatible with Wii which is what holds Wii U and what held Wii back. Plus with both consoles, Nintendo spent a lot of money and R&D on the controller. Rinslowe “The point is that many of the parts have to compatible with Wii ” I could almost completely agree with this comment if on it’s own… But in actual fact, it isn’t holding Wii U back at all. The Wii U is as powerful as it is not due to any reason related to backward compatibility. This is because it could have been more powerful with it… It was a design and budget choice only. And yes, A lot of the R&D went into the controller. Which affects the overall cost of the machine. Ultimately. Wii U is powerful enough for what it does. The main thing is not to go toe to toe with PS4 and Xbox 1 on specs alone… bizzy gie Alright then. There’s no explaining it to you. Rinslowe Lol… I think of the two. You have proven the less capable of explanation… haha. Classic. Or were my details not in line with your vibe? The whole idea that backward compatibility holding anything back was just a runaway rumour created first by some guy on Gaf. It was an opinion… And only applicable in part arguably. It was never the sole reason of Wii U being less “powerful” in brute force.. “Nintendo could have gone with a full fledged Power 7 design which could have been made backward compatible with Broadway at a huge cost to the consumer and included an even beefier GPU with more RAM…” But look, I get what you are trying to say… If the Wii U had left out BC then there would be more resources to allocate to more power… right? But this means what? really? You could just as successfully try to argue that if they went with a basic DVD drive instead of Blu-Ray they would have more $$ to throw at the GPU… Dude, this isn’t even a point at all, the majority of Wii functionality being emulated… 🙂 sd They have a wii chip inside the console and embedded on the Wii U chip to make it run. This is why backwards compatibility is expensive and why the PS4 and X-1 do not have this feature as they would need to include the PS3/360 chips to make it work. Dennis You are partly right. The chipset has his own elements for backwards compatibility and background tasks. But it doesn’t make it really expensive. sd Not really expensive but if you used the xbox 1 for example, the extra cost on the chip could have given them the faster ram or a gpu boost to fall more in line with the PS4. Simon Stevens If they did, good move, never had a problem in regards to overheating, customer satisfaction first, thanks Nintendo TheKingJoseph lol and people say that this console is next-gen RIP wii u Mercurio2054 idiot, this was a false rumor. palomino blue My Wii U runs cooler than anything in my entertainment center. Possibly cooler than my Wii ran in there. Zuxs13 Yup this can remain in the rumor bin. Total BS. Adrian Im confused, is this rumoring that the current wiiu is downgraded? Or that the wiiu is going to be downgraded in the future? Andreas Sunde It’s a rumor that the Wii U was downgraded from the first devkits, to the release systems. This was debunked by Shinen. https://twitter.com/ShinenGames/status/398435812351565825 Bob Wilkerson Personally I think this rumor is based on old information and they have it backwards. I distinctly remember Nintendo saying that the production Wii U was enhanced in terms of processing power compared to the demo unit and the original DEV kits. I also partially believe this is coming out as a rumor just to try and discredit the Wii U so close the PS4 and XB1 launches sharlo galmo Afcourse this is bullshit, cause iwata him self say that the powerfull devkit was send to late, they send the final devkit on November 2012, and that one was more powerful. . NkoSekirei dont wry dude its just rumor and we all know how rumors tend to fail and besides some of the devs that support the wii u alrdy said wii u is more powerful then ps3 and 360. Cadrion To be honest, even if it were true that my awesome little WII U was downgraded for reliability reasons, I wouldn’t be upset. Last thing I want is another heaping pile of shit Xbox 360 red ring of death machine. There is no excuse for that system’s failure rate. Krzysztof That just confirms what I said earlier. They built Wii U with the future handheld in mind. Handheld which would be 100 % compatible with the home console and backwards compatible with previous generation (Wii U’s similar ARM CPU as in 3DS). So obiously, power consumption and size matter. Andreas Sunde Except it’s not true. William Short Wanna know how i feel about this? mch This rumor is not worth me writing this. MewThree28 This statement about them changing the Wii U because of overheating issues is true. I remember reading this on Nintendo’s site about 6 months before the Wii U launched. Gregg It’s been said that they actually got FASTER. Why even post this stuff. SecretX its true but doesn’t mean the hardware is weak. some developers can’t even use the full power of a PC. is up too them how they use the hardware. WellWisher Already debunked by Shin’en. Marcos Crill Colon More hate on Nintendo great what else is new …this is a lie by the way but who cares the trolls will have a field day with this one matt Iwata has always defended these rumours and bk in fb he said all current wiiu games are running on old devkits…. http://www.thegamescabin.com/latest-news/current-wii-u-titles-running-on-outdated-developer-kits-still-trial-and-error-phase.html/ Shinen said this rumour was fake…. Paladinrja Talk about overthinking it. What Donald didn’t mention and you should know by now Ashley, is that not all Wii U features were specc’d in the early catdev kits. Thus efforts made to do one thing on earlier builds to work around certain processes were needing to be redone when those kits were updated. It caught some devs unawares but they took the effort to redo those processes because it better accomodated parity with the system. I mean really people. The Wii U does 1080p @60fps for a mere 11MB of its near 40MB eDRAM. Mr. Iwata had almost built Pikmin 3 to 4K supported TVs and stated his reasons why he refrained. Eshop, Nintendo developed and expanding social media, even web based media server. As a gaming machine its absolutely inline with its competitors that are not only game machines. Yet if they perform better, it will not be noticeable. Otherwise each are pretty much en par. That should be obvious by now. What do you want? Zachary M Schultz This rumor is trash Shi’nen was asked about this on Gonintendo.com and they said that Wii u Hardware got faster by the time they got final Dev Kits. The reason Darksiders had to fix their code probably had to do with the GPgpu being the main Chip to supply CPU with support and the loads edram no one was expecting. Akatosh I think power was originally reduced… but not for a slimmer console. For a slimmer price. InterTreble Who believed that is either an incompetent or a troll/hatar (aka idiot) Jeovany I hope this isn’t true because then we will have a red ring of death situation and that mean the wii u is even weaker than what everyone thinks it is. NyallJodhan How can something with a known fixed quantity (proven power in this case) diminish (“become even weaker”) because of a rumour? Jeovany If they underclock the hardware, which is what they I assumed they did, then the wii u will be less powerful than it appears to be.(By the way someone else in the comment link a tweet that pretty much disproves this) Tom Greene Oh Nintendo. ..maybe you’ll get next gen with a successor console…and for Christ sake don’t call it Wii anything ..smh.. Andre R they should made it bigger if they worried that its going to overheat. not make it slower. Andre R mine has never freeze, ever. not before the update or after Nintenjoe82 Mine does a hard crash when playing FIFA and would barely play Sonic Racing without crashing but every other game is fine. I doubt this rumour is true. There is a simple reason why the cpu is weak in the Wii U and that is because it runs off a fairly small power supply. Igor What’s crappy is going to be even worse. Great job losers. companyoflosers i wouldnt have minded it being bigger to get more power out of the console. not that it doesn have enough power, i just feel every bit helps in establishing it and trying to win over a few people who are normally on the xbox or playstation side of things. I am Error. Nintendo console have never seemed preoccupied with power. I really enjoy my Wii U just the way it is. Sure, sometimes I’d like a bit more speed on the main menu but once I’m in-game all is well. C.S. Bailey As much as I hate to admit it, this theory isn’t too “farfetch’d”!(and yes, I had to go there!) The last time Nintendo had a console that was on par with the competition (GC), they ruined it with the size of the media used for games. I think “over spending” on making the console was more of an issue than over-heating. DOLBYdigital Don’t see how this is a surprise for anyone, it was clear to me when I saw the iwata asks awhile back. They wanted a small console and its challenging to get fast hardware in a small box with proper cooling… so yes they definitely had to make the hardware work for the case size and not the inverse… its basic computer hardware principles DOLBYdigital They also wanted low energy usage so again this will constrain the speed of CPUs and GPUs devmiles a lot of bad decisions were made with the wii-u. why would anyone give a f*** about the console size in the first place? if you have the chance making a badass console with big specs then go all the way, forget all your shitty kiddy games and create something that is appealing to developers as well. obviously the architecture of the xbox one and ps4 will be much better, more clear and not with boundaries. nintendo will always stay so lonely in this and their market will be taken away. it’s not that i don’t like the wii-u, it’s ok but immediately will be last in line with the new consoles coming and as always they don’t care. i just hate the fact that they don’t push things and always come with half ass stuff instead of fully armored badass. the whole VC thing is just super lame and miiverse is the stupidest shit i’ve seen. why not a trophy system, why not more mature, why not a blue ray player..just simple things!!! ..are they always gonna be this kiddy style on their own, step the F up man!