Today Bandai Namco and Slightly Mad Studios have revealed the Project CARS limited edition package for the game. This limited edition comes with several pieces of exclusive DLC, as well as a steelbook case and a behind the scenes look at the development process for Project CARS. Five legendary cars are included as part of the exclusive DLC, including: McLaren F1 Sauber C9 BMW M1 ProCar Mercedes-AMG C-Class Coupé DTM 1967 Ford Mk IV According to the developer the Wii U will still see a limited edition release with all these contents included, despite the fact that the Wii U version of the game has been delayed to 2015. The current release date for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC is November 2014. Are you still excited about Project CARS despite the delay? Will you be picking it up? local_offer bandai namco Nintendo project cars slighty mad studios wii u stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when FIreproof_actual Nope. Ducked I’ll pass, not really much on racing games. If I do, I’ll be buying DriveClub. Ultrasyd I’m not that fond of racing games. So I’ll get it but normal version. I don’t really car about 5 more cars. matthew garcia I saw some new screenshots of the game and there definitely has been a improvement in visuals. They seem to be putting the extra time to good use iago parrot Troll. matthew garcia You must have a one word vocabulary lol. That’s all you say ActivesiN getting it used, wont support them after the delay of wii u only Daniel Gonzalez Awesome. Jonathan Robitaille good man … Project Cars MarioKart DLC Confirmed!!!! Ferd726 This is going to be hard to sell because of Forma horizon 2, Driveclub, The crew and F1 2014. And they comming this Fall the Fall of racing XD. So what game you support more. I guess this delay for wii u is good but the same time bad way is the price is $60 and the other version will cost like $20 when the wii u version comes out. Jake Don’t see why I should wait months to play this game. Probably just get the PS4 versions. This sucks, I was looking forward to play the Wii U version. Phoenix Maybe Me too, the devs behind this game hyped the Wii U version and everything, saying that the Wii U version “is all about innovation.” I hope it still is about innovation. iamserious This game looks really good. I am not into these type of racing games but if the Wii U version looks this good I’ll have a hard time resisting a purchase. Jonathan Robitaille it won’t. You have to know that. it will be the worst version by a long shot and not because the Wii U isn’t capable. Save your money for developers that deliver on time, non gimped, top quality games. Yes, it means you will be mainly buying Nintendo. But when games like Guacamalee and Shovel Knight come out support them. Dhawkins541 Feel like they should change the name of this game to project bait and switch many wii u owners put money into providing support and then it’s like oh sorry we have priorities so well get to you later. I know I know wii u doesn’t have x86 and isn’t as powerful as the others, but at least when I play it I have fun, my family has fun the xbox was a netflix device only for double the price a year. Rinslowe “Feel like they should change the name of this game to project bait and switch” Yeah, anyway we look at it, it was a crap move on the studios behalf to hype it up for Wii U from the outset. Sell it as a PC and Wii U exclusive. Then to officially include both PS4 and Xbox One (no issues on that point). Followed months later by a universal release date for all versions. To then only 2 short weeks later announce one of the original platforms being delayed. It’s genuinely difficult to support studios that are so cagey about their decisions. As many have said before, I bet the Wii U version is sitting there right now doing nothing, with no-one even working on it. At least until the other 3 versions are complete. For whatever reasons we can understand. It’s still a crap hand to play to Wii U owners and especially Wii U only owners… Mercurio2054 “Wii U only owners” like me…. Jamyskis My problem with this is that it’s going to the push the Wii U into an even worse light. There are actually very few Wii U-only gamers that will be interested in this – most have PCs or one of the other next-gen consoles (I personally have a PS4 and a PC, although both are collecting dust – the PS4 for lack of games, the PC due to the obsession with Steam), and gamers interested in this game will probably end up picking it up for PS4, XB1 or PC instead. So, when the time comes to release on Wii U, it’s probably going to sell badly and further reinforce the misconception that the Wii U is an unviable platform to develop for. Mercurio2054 totally true. is a snow ball. Rinslowe “So, when the time comes to release on Wii U, it’s probably going to sell badly and further reinforce the misconception that the Wii U is an unviable platform to develop for.” Sadly, I think you nailed it on that point. Gamer Mania Well think about it, it’ll mean the game will be fully optimized for the Wii U instead of rushed. Rinslowe “Well think about it, it’ll mean the game will be fully optimized for the Wii U instead of rushed.” No arguments there. But to be fair, that’s not a prerequisite to being late. Unless you’re taking the reasons provided for the delay at face value. It also doesn’t really address the fact the game itself would have lost a lot of it’s potential interest with gamers in general by that time. Having been played on PC/ PS4/ Xbox One and playthoughs or lets plays streamed from every service imaginable… How many fresh faces are going to be left for the Wii U version when it releases? It’s not looking good. fireheartis1 Your points are valid for sure, but I’m thinking because Smash Bros is coming out Namco Bandai is scared that Project Cars would get ignored anyways because of Smash. Releasing it late for the Wii U is actually a smart move. It allows Wii U owners to get their hands on Smash first, and then when they see how amazing Project Cars is going to be on Wii U they’ll buy it. Remember there’s going to be exclusive features on the Wii U port of the game. That to me is enough to buy it. I’ll enjoy some Smash Bros first, and then when I’m ready for a great racing sim I’m going to be picking me up Project Cars. Rinslowe It’s never a smart move to release a game when by the time it does the hype for your game in general has died for the most part and the limited audience you had originally has also for the most part moved on to something else. I just don’t see this game selling well on Wii U at all now. And it wouldn’t have sold a whole lot to start with compared to the other platforms And in that what I suspect is the true motivation for the delay. Being that the studio is simply prioritising the platforms that will likely sell the most. It’s understandable looking at it from that perspective. But it’s cagey and crappy that they would dance around the facts as they have. I mean it was one of the first versions in development. And only recently they communicate development setbacks and the need for optimisation. It’s too much of a stretch to swallow. And I wish the game does well for Wii U. But it’s unlikely, imo. fireheartis1 It might not do as well as it would have if it released on time, but I believe it will sell a decent amount. This has nothing to do with the development studio but with Namco Bandai. They made the decision to move it back. It all has to do with Smash Bros and Hyrule Warriors. The game would simply get lost in between those two. Rinslowe The decision was made to service the other three platforms first. This is obvious as there are no other logical reasons to it. Unless you believe in conspiracy theories here. Or as one other poster as been fraudulently posting – it’s delayed simply because it’s delayed. So it’s fair to say that “if” Bandai Namco did indeed have some say in this process, it was due to the same reasons. Spend development time and release where the returns are greatest. And work on the Wii U versions porting and specific features once those other versions are finished. As to date, third party software has struggled to generate acceptable returns. If you honestly believe it has to do with Smash or HW’s, which could well have been a factor that helped “them” square off that decision in the first place, then imagine the difficulties in releasing on anything but PC. What with Drive Club, Forza Horizon 2 and The Crew to contend with on other platforms. How ever well it sells now on Wii U. Is certainly to be less than what it was going to be… Daniel Gonzalez Very true. At least it’s still coming, despite the delay. Rinslowe Does that mean you have your Wii U version pre-ordered? Excellent! matthew garcia Hopefully it is. Still havnt heard nothing from watchdogs yet neither. Daniel Gonzalez Probably on the verge of cancellation perhaps? Probably should be at this point. I don’t think many will buy it after such a long period of time. Jonathan Robitaille lol you can’t possibly believe that. They know it won’t sell. IF it comes out it will be the bare minimum required for release.They will be busy patching the other versions, getting DLC out and supporting them. Like one dude will be handed the keys to the back room and told to get it onto the Wii U. No rush, just sometime in 2015. It’s all for naught and they know it. I wish people would just come to grips that there won’t be 3rd party support for the Wii U, unless you count months/year late gimped ports support fireheartis1 Nope it will be just like the GameCube where we get timed exclusive 3rd party games before they release on another console. That’s what’s going to happen because that’s what Nintendo has to do for 3rd party support. Thomas Vienna This can’t be a coincidence; I’m starting finding it hard to believe that both Ubisoft and Slightly Mad (and whoever else) have done this just to give other consoles the priority. I hate to say it, but this probably means that it is really difficult to develop for this system. There must be something about the Wii U that makes it unnecessarily difficult to develop for. This is probably going to happen for every multiplatform game following this. Rinslowe Yeah it’s called Nintendo really is the odd man out in the way they approach the industry. Especially the western games development scene. They make their own engines, guaranteed. Their first/ second party games sell an order of magnitude better than thirds on their own hardware. And they seem to (as one would expect of a business), focus on the area’s that generate the majority of their revenue. First and Second party software… As far as the system being difficult to develop for. I’d say from a hardware perspective there’s as much for as against on that point. But definitely if you’re a third party studio looking to compete with Nintendo IP, knowing that the audience has evolved to favour first party content. Knowing that sales as a result will suffer because of this. Then I guess it would be difficult, especially for western dev’s to develop on the platform. Having said that, it’s not all Ninty’s fault on that part. Third parties have done little to break though to the audience in general. And on many occasions have seemed intent on sabotaging their own products by releasing at full price as a late port. Missing DLC, features or online support entirely etc… pez2k You’re quite close to the truth. Rinslowe I doubt that your vagueness is close to any truth… pez2k I’m one of the pCARS backers with access to the development forums, but unfortunately exact details of the delay are under strict NDA. I can only really hint without getting into trouble! leo So you know? Rinslowe Yeeah. You can only hint. Why not not try hinting a little closer to what aspect is closer to the truth. Your not the only person with access to WMD… pez2k I don’t have any information on the Wii U SDK, the last Nintendo home console I did any development on was the Gamecube. FutureFox Sounds like you know something….care to share? matthew garcia Maybe Dan adelman will come out and reveal all. He is the new Julian assange but except for wikileaks it’s for Nintendo lol pez2k The game was never a ‘PC and Wii U exclusive’, the Wii U was actually the fourth platform announced. The PS4 and XB1 versions replaced PS3 and 360, as the backers voted to move completely to next-gen. Rinslowe I believe you’re correct as far as the PS4 and Xbox One versions are concerned in relation to the announcement of last gen systems being scrapped. Next gen being confirmed basically the next day. And exclusive was a poor choice of words there. But there’s no need to edit that comment as this was actually a very minor part of the point being made. If you really wanted to address facts, there’s more important aspects to comment on. And I would welcome the insight… pez2k Shoot, I’ll answer any questions I can – I’ve been following development of pCARS since it was just Ian Bell making a suggestion over on the NoGrip forums back in 2011. Rinslowe So you would also be aware of the feature lists created specifically for Wii U’s gamepad in 2012… Gamer Mania Actually, without the x86 CPU it’s not as limited than the PS4/Xbox One’s CPU. PowerPC is used for Efficiency with the capability for being on par with an x86 CPU. pez2k Do you know any of these mythical Wii U owners who backed the game? The Nintendo port wasn’t even announced until around the time that funding closed, and the vast majority of funding was for the PC version, with a tiny amount for Playstation and even less for Xbox. RichM After they FINALLY release it on Wii U, they’ll complain that it didn’t sell well and will no longer be supporting the Wii U. That’s what happens when you hold back a version. Hold them all back if you want actual integrity in your data. De5str0yer. Stop caring about how “powerful” the goddamned console is and wait to see what the developers have on store for the game on Wii U , goodbye and have a nice day. Rinslowe Will I be picking this up? It’s hard to say now. I was pretty amped for gampad inclusion and how that might make the game a must have for Wii U. But there’s going to be some stiff competition in driving games for Xbox One and PS4 well before the Wii U version releases so… Maybe, maybe not. I’m pretty sure I’ll still be getting through both Driveclub and Forza Horizon 2 by the time the Wii U version hits the streets so definitely an unknown at this point. Ducked The Wii U delay really was a stupid move. Xbox One has Forza 5, PS4 has Drive Club, and both consoles are getting The Crew. Project Cars would be the only Wii U racing game, which would mean more sales for them. Rinslowe Totally agree. Not sure how well the Wii U version would have sold on it’s own merits anyway, if you know what I’m getting at. But it’s certainly going to sell a lot less now than whatever it could have done… I bought a PS4 a few months ago and intend to pick up an Xbox One some time in Oct after the official Chinese launch. As I’m in HK. Better to have an officially supported version as I’m not sure how the Chinese govt. will approach the media aspects etc.. And although I have a no’ of options there already, I’d still rather have a fully functional, fully supported console. Unlike Wii U that half the features aren’t available being region locked. E-shop, Miiverse and online all work fine. So the main features are open. And still… Driveclub’s going to be a winner from what I’ve seen so far And Horizon 2 is my cup of tea. So it’s a hard sell for Project Cars in 2015. Wii U for me in 2015 so far mostly just means Xenoblade and Zelda U, Splatoon and Starfox… Ducked I get what you’re saying about the audience. I haven’t picked up a PS4 yet, or Xbox One. I plan on buying a PS4 at the end of the year. 2015 for Wii U meNs exactly the same for me. I’m really looking forward to Star Wars Battlefront, and Final Fantasy XV. So what country did you buy your Wii U in? Rinslowe New Zealand while on holiday. They had this sale on the last day I was there, so it was classed as an impulse buy. It’s the exact same version as an Australian delux, which is pretty much a European Pal version premium. I also have a US version at work. But that’s pretty much for everyone and only has indies pretty much. Yep, Star Wars Battlefront 3 will be solid and perfect for 2015 with a new film releasing as well. FF XV, definitely. Ducked Interesting and cool. I’m hoping for big things from DICE. 2015 certainly seems to be a massive year for gaming. As Uncharted 4, Halo 5, Batman Arkham Knight, and No Man’s Sky will all be out. I’m going to pretty broke by 2016… matthew garcia Oh don’t forget the witcher 3 and kingdom hearts 3 Ducked Witcher 3 most definitely! Kingdom Hearts 3 isn’t expected to release the same year as FFXV sadly 🙁 but there is hope for a holiday 2015 release matthew garcia Do you know when kingdom hearts 2.5 releases? Daniel Gonzalez December 2, 2014 matthew garcia Oh ok still got a little time Daniel Gonzalez Of course. 😛 matthew garcia Lol hey Mexicans are broke these days. To many games I’m not sure where to put my money. Games will be left out Ducked December 2nd 2014 in North America Jon Turner Since KH3 won’t be around for awhile, there’s still a chance for it to hit WiiU. Not sure about FFXV though, although I still say it should at least be a fair deal on Nintendo’s part to try and get both and/or one or the other on WiiU because those two games DO have an audience established on Nintendo platforms. GTA, CoD, and even AC do not. Ducked FFXV seems unlikely. It’s rumored to release in early 2015, so the Wii U would have to get a later release. KH3 is very possible, but more Wii U owners need to show interest, as well as Nintendo themselves. I’d buy both PS4 and Wii U version of kingdom hearts 3 Jon Turner ALTHOUGH, who knows if FFXV is actually going to hit in early 2015? For all we know, it COULD actually be delayed even further. It certainly stinks that SE doesn’t seem to be on board with WiiU at the moment, but I don’t want to believe that they won’t ever be on. Ducked I hope not. The later FFXV releases the later Kingdom Hearts 3 comes out. I agree, they’ve only supported there handhelds since the N64 came out. Jon Turner Which didn’t stop them from giving Nintendo consoles the occasional release. FFCC, DQSWORDS, DQX, CHOCOBO’S DUNGEON, and CRYSTAL BEARERS. There were SOME releases. I don’t like it when I feel told that I should give up on SE ever coming to WiiU when we have no evidence of that. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a little faith, is there? Ducked Of course not, the more faith the better. Kingdom Hearts III has a good chance on hitting the Wii U. It’s just sad that main FF games have left Nintendo consoles for years. Jon Turner It is, although on the other hand, will FFXV REALLY live up to the legacy? Since FFX, apparently, the last FF games haven’t exactly been great. FFXIII especially. Rinslowe I have to say. With what’s on the horizon, next year is going to be insane for gamers of every description. There’s just that many must have games coming for every platform. I really hope No Man’s Sky delivers. It looked fantastic. And it’s amazing the scope and ambition the title has with such a polished look and from a humble sized studio as well. It could well pave the way for titles on a budget to go big and prove creativity and imagination can pay off. To me, if it’s everything it looks to be. It could well by a AAA killer… A lot of small studios are gonna want to make that kind of coin. Just sayin. fireheartis1 Do you mean only Racing Sim Game? Because there’s a great game in Need for Speed: Most Wanted U. It looks amazing and plays amazing. Yes it’s more arcade like, but it’s still a great racing game for Wii U. Rinslowe Need for Speed Most Wanted U was a stand out port. And I think he meant the only racing game available for Wii U at the time of release – in comparison to the other platforms and assuming P.C had released on time. Not – the only racing game on the platform.. Murilo Correia most likely.. I will not buy a ps4 / xone .. they seem like they ripped the backward just to sell the same games for us .. it’s not like revive an old classic like Resident Evil .. I finished The last of us two times last year .. they could focus on any NEW project and launch the remastered games a few years later…… and we have this change for the x86 architecture also .. I do not want to support any of it .. so I’m going to buy this game for one of the two platforms that i have. Wii U or PC .. but as I want to support the 3rd parties that are in the Wii U i’ll probably buy for the Wii U allvalve The delay is a real shame, as some of the hype will have worn off when the Wii U version arrives. I’m just hoping it’s not a complete flop, inviting the “told you so” attitude of third parties in general. I’ll buy it, as I’ve been waiting for this game for ages, and won’t be buying a PS4 (just yet) or XBoxOne (ever) Lets hope the Wii U controller enhancements don’t feel tacked on. Santiago I will definitely play the Wii U version, not only because I don’t own any of the other platforms, but because I cannot wait to see how this looks on Wii U, I hope games like these help make Wii U more attractive to people in general Gamer Mania I’ll be buying it on PC HotInEER Stuff like this makes me mad. Then the studios wonder why their games don’t sell on the Wii U. It’s stunts like this. Gamer Mania But that’s also the reason why Wii U is losing third party games… Slightly Mad Studios are still excited to bringing this game to the Wii U but the Wii U isn’t the easiest to work with. HotInEER I understand what your saying, however I think easiest isn’t the correct word. Different, may be better. It’s a different architecture than the Xbox One and PS4, but that just means they have to put a little different work into it. I own all 3, and I can’t say anygame I’ve played on the One or PS4 has blown the Wii U away. 00EpicGamer00 Well, to be fair, 3rd party companies have to not only work with the “different” architecture of the Wii U console, but also the gamepad. I’m not trying to sound sappy, but I think the gamepad is what makes developers turn and run. You could argue that developers don’t HAVE to use the gamepad, but then people would be complaining that the gamepad isn’t getting used and won’t buy the game just for that reason. FutureFox It was all a bad design route. The Wii U really is in the furthest corners of feasibility. When I saw Miyamoto demonstrating how Starfox could use the gamepad, its like I saw all of Nintendo’s current problems in the demo alone. One could really take a lot away from that display alone: bad management, fear of smart phones and tablets, eagerness to be different all the time, poor third-party relationships, alienating architecture, low resource bandwidth etc…. 00EpicGamer00 I agree with everything you said. Like, I appreciate that Nintendo is trying to be different and “innovate.” But I think Nintendo tried a bit too hard with the Wii U. The idea is there, but it wasn’t executed very well. Nintendo should have just launched the Wii U with a pro controller, and be done with it. In my opinion, Nintendo doesn’t need to be “unique” with their consoles or controllers. Their IP’s are unique enough to me. matthew garcia I’m still not sure if Nintendo notified 3rd party developers ahead of time of there choice to use the gamepad with a touchscreen just so that the developers would know what there dealing with. If it was last minute I can see it being a problem 00EpicGamer00 I don’t think so, lol. I don’t really see Nintendo being the type of company to get EA, Activision, Ubisoft, capcom etc. On the phone and be like: “yo, we got a controller with a screen on it, be sure to know how to program stuff on it, bye!” Nintendo I think told them at the last minute. In a text message or something. Kind of like if a friend of yours was suppose to tell you something important, but they forgot. And then remembered what it was at the last minute and tells you it when you needed that information a little beforehand. matthew garcia Hmmm interesting lol HotInEER I might be in the minority, but for me, I would not be upset if the gamepad was only used for offline game play or to play when someone else want’s to watch TV. 00EpicGamer00 I wasn’t referring to you, exactly. I’m not sure who, but I’m sure there’s (crazy) people out there that if 3rd party companies JUST used the gamepad for off TV play, nothing “unique”, they wouldn’t buy it. HotInEER I think being able to play every full game made on the Wii U on a portable game pad is unique. No other console has that capability. Carl Fin Ah yes Gamer Mania. We should peddle to them? 3rd parties can go f themselves. This game was originally only on the Wii U. In comes the money grabbers and now the Wii U owners are supposed to beg for the game even at a later date. pez2k The game was originally only on PC, with PS3 and 360 ports announced early on. It’s only much further down the line that a Wii U port was tabled. steveb944 I’m only slightly mad now. Apparently Wii U release will cost less, at least that’s the trend in EU. james It would sell less on Wii U id it was released today, beofre Xbone and PS4. Lets be real… Daniel Gonzalez At least it comes with everything. fireheartis1 I’m still looking forward to this game. I will be enjoying some Smash Bros and my other Wii U games, and then I’ll be getting me this amazing game. I’m not the best at Racing Sims, but I know I’ll love it no matter what. I can’t wait to 2015 when I get to pick up my pre-order. FutureFox No and no. They’ve done a wonderful job depleting any interest and excitement I once had for this title. Spending energies elsewhere on more deserving games. What’s really annoying is they keep showing screenshots of the PC version, which does nothing but hamper any interest in the Wii U version regardless of their commitment to bringing the title to Wii U. pez2k Console development tends to come with non-disclosure agreements, it’s not a coincidence that the only console footage comes from the official Playstation blog and Sony’s stands at E3 and SDCC. FutureFox Call me a skeptic, but maybe, just maybe SMS had developed the game in this order: PC, PS4, Xbone, (and sometime when flying cars becomes a reality) Wii U. Thus PS4 being the only really “finished” console version is what was shown at E3 as most people are more in tuned with console game releases. ben I would not be surprised if what we saw at e3 was a PC with ps4 pad, it would not be the first time. pez2k That’s not really how it works, the game code is shared across all platforms and it’s only the low-level engine code that needs to be tailored per platform, and after the initial porting of the engine everything develops more or less in sync. Everything except the SteamOS version has been in quite a showable state for a while now, and all versions are considerably more finished than the E3 build was. FutureFox Well I’ll just continue to believe “Bandaid” Namco had a lot more voice than is being led on, either by their own accord, or some arrangement with Nintendo regarding SSMB4 or some combination in between. As you stated ALL versions except steamOS are in a showable state. If its not a manpower issue then one can only assume some b.s politicking. If that’s the case and SMS has to essentially take the blame for the delay then I don’t know what to say. I do know a while back there were efforts by WMD members trying to deflect blame from Bandaid and those posts were quickly taken down. So it seems you guys wanted to launch everything on November, Bandaid got in the way (for SSMB4 reasons as they are a developing partner), you guys have to stick to your own schedule and so it was decided to delay the Wii U version until a later date. In which case if any of that is remotely true, can we expect at least a January 2015 release? Bandaid could have at least stated as much, as 2015 in general can mean end of next year for all we know and that makes you guys look rather ill-equipped. Whatever your past successes were, many people like myself have only recently heard about you and the publicity surrounding this game does not instill much confidence all around. I and most people probably wouldn’t be so peeved it there was a reasonable date communicated like January 2015 (and it was for real, not some pacification stunt), but right now people are essentially in freefall, unsure when to expect this. pez2k Bandai-Namco don’t really have much influence on the release date, past the lead time for manufacturing and distributing discs – they’re just a distributor. There’s no solid Wii U release date quite simply because there is no solid date yet, it relies on a lot of factors but it will be as soon as is possible. It’s just not possible to have it done for November or December 2014. As for all versions being in a showable state, mind that that’s not quite the same as a releasable state, there’s still almost another 2 months of work for any platform to get that far, including PC. They’re all still being worked on. Jon Turner I’m at least glad WiiU is getting a limited edition as well, but I still would have liked it better if they launched it ontime with the other versions. Delaying it was a bad call on Slight Mad Studios. I don’t know how much part of this Namco has to do with it, but I really don’t care. I want to see this third party issue resolved in a way that works best for Nintendo, thirds, and everyone, not get worse. Carl Fin I was going to buy it on Wii U day 1, but now I’ll just leave it off and maybe get it in the bargain bin in 2 years. I was really excited to buy a game from a little team who care, not a big team only in it for the money. I mean yes, they have to make money, but this is just nonsense. leo No fuck them still. Wii U should have a 2014 release pez2k You’re blaming the wrong people – SMS were as disappointed as anyone that they’d have to delay one version. leo Were’s your source pez2k The official development forums at WMDPortal – I’ve been a backer of Project CARS since day 1. There’s no ulterior motive or anything here, it’s just not possible to release the Wii U version in November. The SMS guys stood their ground even when some backers wanted to drop the Wii U – they’ve been dedicated to it from the start. DragonSilths It’s Namco’s fault. They have some beef with Nintendo excluding helping with Smash Bros. pez2k There are no grudges or anything else involved, there’s no anti-Nintendo sentiment, these are businesses not forum posters. DragonSilths There is an issue. Look in the past, Tales Of Symphonia HD Collection on PS3 when the 1st was only on the Gamecube (English Version) and the 2nd was only on the Wii, yet they remaster them for the PS3? Then Namco has no plans for a Tales game on Wii U, now with them taking over Project Cars as the publisher THEY delayed the Wii U version. So yes they have an issue with Nintendo. You can deny it all you want, I frankly don’t care. Whats 1 more brain dead ignoramus on the planet. matthew garcia I’m not sure. I find it weird that ps4 and Xbox are getting a resident evil hd remake of the 2002 GameCube release but Wii u is not. I mean that was a Nintendo exclusive. Not sure what went wrong there ben At this point it is clear there is a technical issue. Now, since most games are cross gen, it cant be the power, so I think it is a storage issue. matthew garcia I saw your previous post and you make a good point. I could definitely see that as a main issue dcj91x Wii U 27.85% Windows 23.87% Steam OS 23.25% PlayStation 4 18.56% Xbox One 6% FutureFox Given the sour attitudes people have of them now I can’t say the other backers were wrong. I of course don’t have the full story( any story) but regardless of any personal feelings the backers might have had SMS is simply too small a team to develop 4 systems, one being of a different architectural beast. They may see themselves as dedicated but it really just sounds more like over ambitious. For me, dedicated means promise on delivery and beforehand what resources are needed to fulfill orders. Being ambitious on the other hand carries a “we’ll see what happens,” willy-nilly attitude with it which is my view of the situation as it has unfolded. They saw how big the pie was yet believed they could eat it all in x amount of time. Fast-forward to current outrage. pez2k They developed Shift 2 for three platforms in only 18 months, and pCARS isn’t the only game that SMS are working on. It’s not really a manpower issue that is holding up one single platform. In terms of attitude, they’ve had a pretty solid plan all along, including contingencies – pCARS is their 8th full-scale racing game after all. The Wii U delay isn’t something that was particularly predictable, which is why it came so late in development. steveb944 Let me preorder already! Take my money for a Limited Edition mainly. People, do you see any other big third party releases NOT supported by Nintendo directly? No? Thought so, buy this game especially if you like racing sims. purple Ill buy this game for Wii u because I only oen a wii u .. but if it gets delayed again or cancelled. Ill buy a Ps4 for this game! purple I hope they dont pull a ubi watchdogs on. Us keithmaxx If this will be the Gran Turismo for Wii U, so be it. It looks great and might buy it to show my support even though I don’t play realistic racing too often. ben I hate to piss on the parade about this game, but I have been doing a lot of thinking and i believe that the reason the wii u is not getting third party games is not power, it is standard Hard drive space that is the issue. Most western devs, or games made for the last gen ps3 and xbox, and the new xbox1 and ps4 require hefty system installs the wii u standard hard drive is just not compatible. Even if Nintendo upgrade the hard drive size, which I doubt they will, it will freeze out people who bought the 8gb and 32 gb versions. Install on something like project cars is probably in the region of 30 gb, so now they have to find a way to get all that to play off the game disk. This, I believe is were the cost comes in porting games to the wii u., matthew garcia I’m not sure but how hard is it to compress the space enough for it to work? I don’t know much on this ben I don’t either. It is just a theory based off a conversation I had with someone who said they were a dev. They said Nintendo wont allow games to ship on the wii u unless they work from the disk with no patching. I guess this is because the standard Hard drive just does not have space for serious updates, or day one installs. Based on this, I think this is a pretty big reason why the Wii u is not getting third party support. It also explains why publishers were bad mouthing the wii u. It causes them all sorts of problems for porting. Designing a game from scratch to work with out an install is not a big deal, however, making a game that was designed to install assets to a hard drive to not do that is an incredible amount of work, it could even prove to be a money pit. I love the wii u and its exclusives but my point, if true, means we will never see third party parity with PS or Xbox. It is not a power issue it is a standard storage design issue. And even as a wii u fan who does not care for third parties, it makes me angry that Nintendo did not consider the console needed at least 250gb of Hard drive as standard. I’m pretty confident that if there was space to install to the hard drive on the Wii u we would have full third party support. matthew garcia What you say makes a lot of sense and if true Nintendo should try to take more advantage of indie games FutureFox That makes a lot of sense. If true, it means that once again Nintendo decided to go in the “other direction” just like with the N64 and the dawn of the CD based gaming system competition. Which means they lose out in the short term but they’re invested in long term strategies and technologies. The gamepad and NFC based venues being that they’re looking towards. In other words, slapping 300gb HDD just to appeal to short term gains and demands if the equivalent of low hanging fruit. Its smarter for them to invest in this way because they don’t have multiple business divisions to rely on for internal input. Though it means what we see today, slow turn out of games, little to no third-party support. Purple Man I am so disappointed. I really hope Project Cars is released by January 2015. I don’t know if even I will still be all that excited for it if I know it’s been out for awhile already. Why?! oh Why?!!! does this always happen to Nintendo? Volgana 1st day buy!!! Dáibhí wotshissurname Project CARS is coming to Wii U. I dunno about you but that is fine for me as long as nothing is cut. Petri Most probably skipping this one. With delay being the least of the reasons. SnappyJon I’m going to wait for it to finally release (or not) on the Wii U, then check out as many reviews as possible before deciding to buy it (or not). In all honesty, I didn’t buy a Wii U for its selection of realistic racing simulators, but I will buy it for the Wii U if it’s good. anthony optimo Me too, Wii U or PC. PachterStation You do know that the developers of Project CARS also developed Need for Speed Shift 2 and Ferrari Legends? Basically, 2 terrible racing games. Need for Speed Shift was decent, but it could’ve been better. Screen shots and vids don’t prove much and I’m guessing that most people who’re going to buy it, haven’t played it yet, so nearly all the hype has been based on how it looks. Fingers crossed it’s not Shift 2 in disguise. As for the Wii U version, I can’t see it being a big seller. Exclusive content will be an added bonus, more so due to the delay. Still, a waste of time on the Wii U due to probable low sales.