Oct 11th, 2013


Two Tribes announced today that the planned level editor for the Wii U version of Toki Tori 2 has been scrapped due to poor sales of the title. The studio took stock of the time investment to bring the feature to Wii U and whether or not it would be worth it and decided that focusing on a new game would be a better use of their time.

“We asked ourselves: is this big update really worth the additional investment? We also figured that if we release a level editor, it won’t do much extra to the sales. When we weighed all the options, we unfortunately decided that it was the best option to move on and focus on a new game.”

For fans that are disappointed by this news, Two Tribes isn’t going to leave you hanging. You can request a free copy of the Steam version of the game, which does include the level editor. Simply head over to the Toki Tori 2 Miiverse community and let the developers know you’d like it on PC instead.

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  • Hezkore

    How the hell can the 8027% rise in sales that came with the free update NOT be enough?!
    How many bought the game before the update… 2, 3?

    • Zuxs13

      i bought it before. It wasnt about not big enough sales. read my post for more details

    • Saul Rivera

      I thought the same…it can’t be because of sales after they said how it increased after their update…hell they even kept the price down longer so that should have been more sales…I for one bought it when it got the update

    • RockieOllie

      8027% is a high percent. It’s crazy!
      But you have to think to yourself what did they have to begin with.
      If you make 2 dollars off of a CD and then sell another CD for 8 bucks.
      that’s a 200% increase. That sounds impressive but in reality its only a total of 10 bucks.

    • Guesty Pooh!

      I bought it before the update, it’s a great game now made even better.
      Wasn’t interested in the level editor, it would have been a nice bonus don’t get me wrong, but I’m not losing any sleep over it.

    • Clel

      Ever read “How to Lie with Stastistics”?

  • Zuxs13

    Ashley I think it was more that Two Tribes tried to bite off more than they could chew! They were trying for a seamless integration between Steam and Wii U for the level editor and that proved too costly. It wouldn’t have been worth it for them to make it for only each separate platform, so it wasn’t because the Wii U sales were poor, it was too big of an investment for too small of a return.


    • Hezkore

      That would certainly make a lot more sense.
      I knew this smelled like more “Wii U poor sales” bashing.

    • The poor sales of the game factored into it. If you read their blog post that’s sourced, you’ll see that they said sales did not meet expectations and therefore that’s one of the factors for not releasing the level editor.

      The whole Valve/Nintendo thing was a last ditch effort to keep their promise because they couldn’t see it being worth their time investment without it.

      • Zuxs13

        I know the game didn’t sell as well as they had hoped but when you look at what they wanted to do with the level editor, the ammount they wanted to add, the scope of it, its easy to see why they didn’t go through with it.
        Its not solely a sales thing. They were proposing a significant investment into the game far exceeding what they should have expected, especially on a one year old console with 3 million users.

        • BIG Franky

          it is though (solely a sales thing)…. you’re arguing over semantics…. they tried to integrate the Steam/WiiU level editor after it was apparent that WiiU sales were abysmal…as a courtesy to the WiiU customers…. and they are still offering amazing customer service to their WiiU customers by offering the PC option.
          At the end of the day…. if they had sold more copies of the game on WiiU, the level editor woudl be available on that platform…so, as always (and as it should be), these decisions are based on sales.

          • Satori Satya

            Indeed. Unfortunately, this is the same story when it comes to the Wii U. Owners of this console, for one reason or another, do not buy enough games. I don’t know if they spend all their time on Miiverse, playing old Wii games or just buy a couple of Wii U games and call it a day. The thing is, as a whole they simply do not have enough of a buying power. And it shows.

            Its quite sad because developers, big companies and indie alike, would love to support the Wii U. It’s just that Wii U owners do not support their games. At least not enough of them do.

            I’m hoping that once Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros and the new Zelda come out, that this situation will change. Because those games will attract new players to the Wii. Thousands if not millions will get a Wii U just to play those games. Maybe then, things will change.

            But…. will it be too late?

    • MujuraNoKamen

      So it’s not because the Wii U sales were “poor”, it’s that they just weren’t enough to justify a massive and costly project. Thanks for the update 😀

      • Majora’s Mask

        I dont want to be rude but poor sales are the factor they knew not many people are going to buy the game originally and with few wii u users its only natural to not include it though swapping it to pc is one hell of customer support

  • Justagamer

    Because of that i won’t buy any more games from two tribes

    • Andrew Chambers

      Why not? They’ll give you a free copy of the PC version, at least they’re trying. It’s just a small developer, they do have a limited budget.

      • Hulkamania

        because they are deliberately screwing over Nintendo brother. We all know its a Valve issue.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Oh Hulk…..when are you going to retire? 😛

    • SleepySkullhead

      You realize that if they went forward with it, they would have lost money, right?

      • Justagamer

        I understand that but they should have thought of that before telling us they would give us one..That was the reason i bought the game

        • SleepySkullhead

          How were they supposed to foresee failure in sales for a game that had a good amount of hype?

          • Justagamer

            Again they should have waited till they see how it would do

          • Justagamer

            Like i said they had the’re chance

  • An Ignorant Duck

    Yet another slap in the face for Nintendo. they should just face up to the truth and stop making games/systems

    • Justagamer

      Never going to happen. Get over it

  • John Andalora

    Hate to say I’m not surprised, but-
    Wait… I love saying that!

    Not surprising. TT2 had a great deal of competition in the puzzle department for the Wii U, and was beaten out by more interesting games.

    • Justagamer


  • Wayne Beck

    I have a feeling this will be revisited after thew Holidays.

  • Is_Mort

    What? Nobody wants to buy a game aimed at 5 year olds? That’s news to me.

    • ShilaquilOneal

      Ever heard of Pokemon?

      Nah, didn’t think so.

      • Justagamer

        Who cares about pokemon and who really cares about you so stfu…Just saying

  • Kyle

    idc cause I’ll be busy anyway on a catch’em all quest…

  • Justagamer

    The game is not that great anyways..the looks of the game are cool but gameplay was boring

    • greengecko007

      It’s a puzzle game…

      Personally, I enjoy it. I happily picked it up while it was on sale (for what should have been it’s original price) and love the satisfaction of solving the puzzles and listening to the catchy music.

      • Justagamer

        Yeah but it was still boring

        • ShilaquilOneal

          You never even played it. So shut up.

          • Justagamer

            Oh but i have boy i got it the day it came out and really how are you going to make me shut up little man..Love to see you try..Facepalm! and i thumbed you down back…enjoy!

          • Justagamer

            Your no real gamer.So stick it prick

    • Satori Satya

      Ah c’mon. That’s a lousy thing to say.

      The game is fun and delivers what it promised. At least the developer made the effort to release it on the Wii U.

      If you don’t like it that it didn’t sell good enough to convince the dev to add a level editor, then instead of putting the game down like that, start talking about what a good puzzle game it is on Miiverse. So that maybe other Wii U owners get the game and it ends up selling better.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    I don’t see it as a loss. I have the game on PC and I doubt I’ll use the level editor.

  • david jarman

    I read in another article that they dropped the project cause they were starting new project?!?!?!?!

    • I am Error.

      There are many situations in life that call for a ?! or maybe even a ?!?! But that many in a row? No, this is not a time for panic.

      • david jarman

        Not panic. Confusion. I was in a state of excited confusion.

  • Cdwoods

    Eh, if you’ve never used it before, you don’t know what you’re missing. So I don’t care.

  • audi lover

    Stomp stomp tweet tweet that’s about the sum of it

  • Sadly, when I go on to most websites, I didn’t see a lot of people talking about Toki Tori 2. It was either Mighty Switch Force, Nano Assault or some upcoming game like Shantae or Mighty No.9.