With China’s fourteen year ban on video game consoles lifting today, Nintendo’s stock is seeing a nice jump. The stock has risen close to 11% in Japan, jumping up to 15,850 yen. Of course, Nintendo is not the only company benefiting from the announcement, as Sony’s stock price has risen 1.3% to 1,825 yen per share. Now that China has lifted the ban on selling video game consoles, it’s likely that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft will begin to leverage opportunities in order to expand their markets into the new region. Thanks to everyone who sent this in! [via Reuters] local_offer China Nintendo Sony wii u stars Further Reading Miyamoto dismisses the Wii U as a “nece 6 reasons to grab a Nintendo Switch before March 6 reasons to skip the Nintendo Switch for now Nintendo Switch Amazon Pre-Order Watch the Nintendo Switch reveal live! Porn DVD found in copy of Splatoon during Christmas Schultz38 Good for Nintendo and Sony. I really wish I had some shares in Nintendo right about now… Rinslowe It’s never too late…. 🙂 Sdudyoy It’s about time, China is a big country so this should be good for Video game company’s, although I wonder how long it will take to start selling there. Nostalgic_Chaos It should probably take about a month to have some solid feedback regarding sales over there and profit. starwars360 Yeah it is good. I think Microsoft will face difficulties in Asia again like Xbox 360 sold badly in Asia in last generation so Xbox One will same. 🙂 crocodileman94 Not certain, China hates Japan. Schultz38 True, but China hates America too. Rick Valenta I was wondering about this in a post above. I feel like China has more in common with America than Japan does these days. It will be interesting to watch. Of course I want the Wii U to crush it.. Mario I really don’t hate any country. Rinslowe Hate is such a strong word… Chong Nope that’s history and you think china loves America loll……Xbox will fail in china but Japanese Sony will maybe do ok but wii u will dominate …..for many reasons…..price is 1 and the great games and the great free stuff on the wii u system in which you have to pay for on Xbox and Sony….. crocodileman94 I hope Sony’s and Nintendo’s nationality won’t make this too complicated. Daniel Gonzalez In terms of business, I don’t think that will be much of a problem. Lifting their ban can only benefit China as well. WarioForever The best profit will make Nintendo. Why? Because Microsoft’s XBox One is a product of America, and Sony’s Playstation has many games with various nationality and beliefs. As for Nintendo, it’s neutral, even if it is Japanese. Laud I see a war brewing.. Sony and Nintendo are going to explode. >_> This is good though, more people = means more money, more developers, more games, and more install base. Kidicarus1 Not really. Nintendo and sony go back a ways. Sony actually used to work for them. That was until sony wanted to use discs, and nintendo wanted to keep using cartridges. But believe it, or not but sony president actually has 2 wii u’s and likes nintendo a lot. Simon Stevens Nintendo opted for Phillips….. what were they thinking?, saying that, Phillips make awesome televisions D.M.T Phillips? Don’t you mean Panasonic? If I’m correct, Nintendo’s optical discs are made by Panasonic, not Phillips. Simon Stevens They were involved with both, at the time they favoured Philips over Sony and later dumped them for Panasonic, 2 bad moves, impossible to tell at that point in time though, gaming was still a baby back then, but despite how the ps1 turned out, Nintendo should have fixed their initial mistakes with the Gamecube, it doesn’t matter so much now though as their hardware in recent times is best known for first party and third party exclusives so they make their money that way despite low console sales which nobody really makes money on the hardware really and not much money is to be had on third party game sales, just minimal fee’s henc Microsoft and Sony not being very profitable, it helps how Nintendo handhelds always seem to do extremely well, no matter what market their in, people can say what they like about Nintendo but from a business perspective, their practices are simple and reap fortunes, sorry for the long reply lol YayGs I believe the point if that partnership WAS to use discs while they were jointly creating the PlayStation. Maybe they felt it wasn’t yet time to use CDs? readypembroke Actually Sony was going to make games for the SNES CD and Nintendo would still make cartridge games. The SNES CD failed because Nintendo seen that the Sega CD failed and then Nintendo pulled out. ScrewAttack It’d be nice if Nintendo and Sony started getting buddy-buddy again. At the very least, cross-platform gaming would be sweet! Daniel Gonzalez This is a benefit for all three consoles for sure. Nice to see China lift their ban. Now fans of that region can enjoy games that we love. It’s certainly a win/win for everyone. Rinslowe Although I totally agree with your sentiment. The Chinese really do have their own tastes. The challenge for western studio’s to take advantage of the massive market potential, will be in understanding those types of gaming experiences the Chinese are enjoying now… I’m sure certain titles will be popular, but the onus is really on western dev’s at that point; to tailor their games to the market not the other way around. Local dev’s are around the clock right now trying to figure that one out themselves so… Good luck to all parties. Maybe even some local games here can also make their way to you chaps in the US… Could be a good opportunity for better relations, through the gaming medium. darkcreap Great indeed. China is a huge market. It will probably increase install base for all three consoles. Even if WiiU is not that successful, it will have a way higher install base and that might mean better third party support. Great news for all three platforms. Chong Wii u will be the console in china trust me…… darkcreap Why so sure not Sony’s? They are a Japanese brand too. Chong 1is the price ,because everyone’s got a blue ray payer.wii u is a much better system…..expecialy for families and kids .wii u is for everyone and Sony is for a select…… jrob23 I just sold 1K shares and have made 8K over the last year or so buying and selling. Still have 1k shares and will sell if it gets to $20. Of course, the potential to explode up due to Smash, Kart, and the Chinese market now open might mean I miss out, but I like to take gains when I can. Bears make money, Bulls make money, Pigs gets slaughtered!! Sol Ridgeway Nintendo will sell a lot of Wii units, because they never got to experience the Motion Control. Hopefully they don’t push the Wii mini, and push the Wii U. I don’t think they will be able to handle the PS4 or X-Bone, as it might come off too hard. Remember they were banned 14 years ago, when N64 was the big thing. They only have been able to play PC games and rip-off consoles. They also have bigger laws on age ratings and restrictions. Nintendoro China probably built their own version of Wii. They fake everything that’s on the market Sol Ridgeway They did but it didn’t have games like Galaxy, Zelda, Metroid, DK, or the real Wii Sport. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Houchu-Xu-Bing-32-WiWI-somatosensory-interactive-TV-game-console-wireless-home-fitness-game/1520481841.html Funkee Dynamite wow Nintendoro Believe me. In Eastern Europe I’ve seen Mario and DK games on Chinese consoles years ago. They copied those no problem Sol Ridgeway I know they had them, but they were not mainstream where everyone could get them. This is the first time the majority of China will play these. Magnus Eriksson True. But the reason for this was lack of availability. Now they can buy the original. China is a large economy, with more than one billion people. ConCity Soldier 1 billion people sounds real good. 🙂 Of course all billion won’t buy a Wii U, but how many millions will buy one? Go Nintendo!! Chong 1.4 billion people to be exact and 500 million will buy the wii u……. Chong Wii u will be the biggest seller in china and yes the population of china is 1.4 billion in 2014 Anthony Sibilla Wow. Very console. So game. Amaze. Such play. readypembroke I laughed all the way through that, Nintendo would teach the Chinese to back away with the fake games and show who is the real man. The product information barely makes any sense at all. Seems like broken English to me. Here it is!!: .Using true 32 – bit digital game entertainment platform ( equivalent to the now popular PS2, X-BOX360 and Wii); through more than 100 engineering and technical personnel staff a year well-built ; * .Advanced wireless IR technology and the direction of gravity sensing capabilities make feel more comfortable, playing sports games more realistic. * .Plug and play games all the built- in machine connected to the TV can be plugged inside play ; . Completely solve the cost of buying a double game to buy the game. * .A variety of sports , entertainment, games and fun , children , the elderly, men , woman , family play together, healthy and fun ! More can be done in front of the TV doing sports. Carbon environmental protection ! * .Each game is to support high-definition display , realistic sound appealing, immersive , sports games and entertainment more interesting ! *At home in front of the TV can do sports. Carbon environmental protection ! Let the lack of movement in the city who can stay at home workout ! It’s almost $100…… nearly the same price as a Wii Mini WITH the real deal games. Cubester_64 Anyone remember the Vii? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGR1hyJ6z6Y ‘Nuff Said. Sonic the Hedgehog Time to show what China was missing! Mario Here we go! Sonic the Hedgehog Let’s do this! Nintendoro Go Nintendo !!!! Wii U, survive Goddamn it!!!! Ducked Wii U will succeed the most in China, they have the less violent games that don’t get banned. Magnus Eriksson Also Mii Verse will work there. I think this makeght be really good for Ninty. Ducked True, that could be a big attraction for them. (btw, did you notice we were ripped out the top commenter section?) Daniel Gonzalez I noticed that as well. Last I remembered, you, Magnus and I were on the top of the list. That’s weird. Lol. Ducked I know, maybe they took the people with honest opinions off it haha Daniel Gonzalez Seems so. Lol. Ahh well. If that’s the case, they might as well make a top fanboy commenters section too. Daniel Gonzalez Not really. Sony can still sell the PS4 there and release games that aren’t too violent and graphic. They can certainly make new IP that would be more approppiate for that region. As it stands, yes, Nintendo games fit more there, so I can’t argue with that one. Rich Garriques trust nintendo will definitely succeed now LopsidedPasta Also it’s the cheapest console. The majority of the Chinese aren’t exactly known for their wealth. We here in America think we have it rough… we have no idea. lonewolf Have you ever been in China? LopsidedPasta Yes I have. I’m not talking about the wealthy living in Beijing here. The vast amount of land in China is worked by rural villagers who are very impoverished. Only a few cities have noticeable amounts of wealthy people living in them. Rinslowe This is simply untrue. I’ve been in China for nearly 10 years and the most population density is in the Cities. Their infrastructure right across the board is well ahead of what you’re implying. China is wealthy today my friend. This is a fact. Beijing Shanghai Shenzhen Guangdong HK Xiamen Dude the list literally goes on and on. Just look up that small list of cities provided above and their related GDP’s and population/ density. That says it all. FYI I live in two of those cities mentioned. So can attest first hand. As well as having traveled extensively to every province, both to the respective main hubs and rural centers… Plus, there is a huge no’ of very wealthy individuals in this country and the % of people able to afford at least two of these consoles would be close to 300-500m I reckon. Plus you’re literally misunderstanding current Chinese culture and their affinity for brand awareness. Even small restaurant staff are using legitimate Iphone 5’s and Galaxy 4’s despite the fact that they’re with a 30% premium over most other countries bought outright. Same goes for automobiles, international brand electronics and even clothing. Everything of brand in China is now more expensive to buy than everywhere else to reflect that increase in buying power…. LopsidedPasta http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/01/20/the-china-miracle-a-rising-wealth-gap/ Rinslowe Don’t quote me a flippin website man. I’m typing this from one of those cities right now. Again. Been here for almost 10 years. If I’m not speaking from experience then damn son…. LopsidedPasta The irony here is so sweet! The article I posted is littered with facts and sources. And you say that I never provide facts?What, would you rather me copy and paste the article here for you? I didn’t want to type it out myself because my fingers would get tired from all the proof I would give! Lmao! I’d bet a thousand bucks you’ve never even been to China. Rinslowe Lol. 🙂 LopsidedPasta You’re not in China. If you were, then you’ve been talking out your ass since you created your account. Because you wouldn’t have a Wii U if you were in China for a freaking decade! Lmao, what a retard. Rinslowe I bought my Wii U a year ago mate while on Holiday. Do your research. Because it’s working just fine… Although all the games have to be imported from Aus/ Nz or downloaded…. Rick Valenta I wonder if the Chinese will show any interest in the XBone. I know the Japanese certainly don’t but that doesn’t necessarily mean it will play out that way in China. That’s 1 billion potential gamers!! Crazy.. Nothing5555 I don’t think the Chinese are as, with lack of a better term, Xenophobic, when it comes to foreign based devices. Petri Tell that to the girl whose Nissan was flipped over. But I guess she asked for it, showing up in a anti-Japan protest with it. Rick Valenta I hate to say it but I agree. Otherwise there wouldn’t be such a disparity between PS3/360 Sales… Should be interesting to watch, hopefully the Chinese love Nintendo first party IP as much as we all do. ConCity Soldier Welcome back to legal gaming China!! 🙂 lonewolf What makes you think that they didn’t had legal gaming yup they had its just that they had their own games games made in china and sold in China. Rinslowe That’s true. And it’s not even the issue console gaming faces in China. It’s the style of play that will need the most work. They just love micro-transactions here and western companies will likely need to adopt that into their games to be successful in the beginning. Local dev’s know all about it so they’ll likely beat them to the punch. But China will always favour their local studios/ products over the outside as in Youku, Qiyi, Sohu, Baidu, QQ, Weibo etc… Expect some particular western studios having a hard time getting their content passed through the regulation system… CEObrainz No matter what happens in China, it won’t destabilize any of the big three console sellers, therefore this can only be good news, unfortunately I can’t see Microsoft doing very well there, if the trends in Japan are anything to go by. Simon Stevens Nobody of adequate intelligence trusts Microsoft, the moment Android became a decent enough platform to do what my pc does (browse the web, play the occasional casual game, download stuff) I threw Windows under the bus, fuck their shity division, if anybody is ruining the market, it started at their doorstep. Alex No wonder their is so much people from China on Pokemon X/Y, I’m starting to see a lot of people from Beijing. Petri Have a feeling microsoft will try to cut losses from Japan in China, but they will enter to the market with gimped xbones. Though their console is already spy ready… But not sure how well any of them will do. Chinese haven’t exactly gotten over the events from WW2 to some recent ones. And Americans haven’t been their pals recently either. I’d think Wii U might do fine among consumers, and PS4 among gamers. I’m happy with this though, it means if I ever have to move to China, I wont have to abandon console gaming. Flawless Victory Great news! Chong Wii u will be king in china no question…. Guest While this will no doubt provide Nintendo, Sony, and even Microsoft with additional income and higher stock values that will benefit everyone, I wouldn’t go expecting to see players in China joining your favorite online games. Systems released in the PRC will, like other forms of media, undoubtedly be highly regulated, the games released for them will be highly modified/censored versions of the games we get, and their online experience will undoubtedly be restricted to content and other players inside the PRC. A good example of this would be a popular MMO that I play where they had a special server just for their Chinese customers who were not allowed to interact with the rest of the game’s community, aspects of the game version that ran on their server were modified for them such as a particular race which for everyone else was “the only true democracy” was changed to be a “trade union” for players in the PRC. Chong Wii u will win Prices in Chinese currency Wii u. 1600 Sony. 2400 Xbox. 2700 And average wages in china is 1800 a month Wii u is the best system for games and other stuff on the system including the free stuff on it in which on the Xbox and Sony you have to pay for….in other words wii u will be world champ……. crocodileman94 Where did you find those? Chong Where did I find what ? crocodileman94 the prices Chong It’s out there and I live in Asia….. Rinslowe Although you have a point about average wage. The average adopter for gaming in general can afford all systems simultaneously, lol. And I’d estimate that crowd at about 300-400m. China’s no longer the poor country it used to be…. Not even by a little… companyoflosers good luck competing with all the knock offs of your own consoles. does china not have any anti piracy laws or something? no matter what your selling, usually within a month or two theres a counterfeit version thats much cheaper, ranted probably doesnt work as well. Leo Nintendo will dominate China, no question about it. JuleyJules DS and a N64 console (that was licensed by Nintendo and made by a Chinese company) are already available there so gamers are familiar with Nintendo and its games & characters. That right there is an advantage as are the family friendly games and the non-violent ones like Smash Brothers and Zelda. it certainly does open things up and who knows if Nintendo was anticipating this and getting ready for it. I’m sure all have but they are in a great positition with this news! Chong Wii u will be china’s system and china is the biggest populated country on earth with 1.4 billion people…. Petri But honestly, how big of a chunk of China could be count as potential market for these consoles? 1/3? Chong A huge chunk and the wii u and. The 3DS will be the biggest sellers and I predict Xbox will fail and Sony will be at best ok….remember china has a population of 1.4 billion people……I will say wii u will be 90 percent of the sales in china….. Glitch256 Big enough for Nintendos stock to go up. Rinslowe Ok, ok… Enough with the bragging. It’s only the beginning. Don’t get ahead of yourself. Rich Garriques this is great for nintendo and sony , but microsoft is certainly doomed , look how its doing in japan with 360. the same will repeat in china. they do not like american consoles. and i can see why Anthony Sibilla I have to say they like us more than the Japanese. Chong Another big reason wii u will smash the others because of all the games that are great for kids…..non violent games….and all the good things on the wii u system for kids and adults……WII U will be the king in china and world wide in sales for sure now…….. Rinslowe This may be the one time where I totally agree. China’s culture is very different to Japans of course. But the tastes in the kinds of content the government will want advertised will be closer to the experiences Nintendo is offering… 你说的很好听。 太好了啊！ Leo Hopefully this will be a huge boost for japanese developers, since it has been years already that the focus are on western games. Andrew Gonzalez Sometimes I don’t understand how nintendo’s stock rises when events like this happen. The Clockwork Being Nintendo bought shares of a mobile company and stocks went up so its kinda weird how this thing goes. AkaLink77 Its because Nintendo is family friendly as Sony and MS produce more gory or inappropriate games. Also considering the fact that facebook and twitter are still banned there, Miiverse will be China’s life-network!! 😀 AkaLink77 its because Nintendo is family friendly as Sony and MS produce more gory or inappropriate games. Also considering the fact that facebook and twitter are still banned there, Miiverse will be China’s life-network!! 😀 GmailIsDown because Nintendo would be in a much better position to compete than MS and Sony. depending on how they would market this, this could be their chance to dominate again. Battlefield 4 just got officially banned in China (yes it was not officially released in China anyway but regardless). i’d think a majority of games available on Xbox and PlayStation would have trouble getting through the various levels of censorship into the Chinese market. and if almost all of the AAA titles on those consoles were not to be made available in Chinese region, the Chinese would probably stick with buying expensive imported consoles and modding them to play pirated games. Wii U on the other hand would have a much easier time to get introduced to the Chinese market. with a much cheaper price tag and a lot more family friendly games (Wii and Wii U), i can envision it doing very well in China…provided that there were enough Chinese willing to buy, instead of pirating the games. Rinslowe True. Pirated 360 games and modded 360’s were the crowd favourite a few years back. red some people in china are all ready used to Nintendo and sony games because they sold the ds and psp there because they weren’t banned. Rinslowe Every console is available from certain places in China. I’m heading to a mall tonight and can post such a pic later… But the only thing is they haven’t been sold or marketed openly due to this ban. But anything can be found in China, almost. Rinslowe Although consoles have always been available in China. Now that the ban is officially lifted, official gaming stores will open across the country and the many developers are even now flocking to gain dev kits from Nintendo. I’ve been living in China for nearly 10 years and read their policy on it about 4 months ago. This is going to be quite nice for Nintendo. To date the majority of gamers have been PC due to lack of mass exposure of console Marketing. Now things will begin to reverse. Maybe it will take another few years before the transition can really be noticed but potential is huge. MS may or may not flourish as they will need to manufacture, assemble or source certain key components from Shanghai in order to fulfill the govts requirement…. A couple of studios I know are already experimenting with some of their current products to adapt to Wii U’s platform. Mainly because I’ve been in their ear for nearly a year telling them it’s the better opportunity than the competition… Hmm Hmm Hmm. Do what we can right? Erik MS may not do well there because of their Culture Policy and (as far as i know) China does’t like the Americas so much due to the fact that the US owes them a lot of money. Back on topic, I would think the percentile will go as this Wii U: ~45% PS4: ~35% Xone: ~ <20% Could be my guess but who knows until the hard numbers are released sometime in the later months. Rinslowe I agree with your additional reasons. A lot of those aspects gamer’s don’t usually care about… And those no’s could well be… I personally hope so. 🙂 Erik I would laugh my butt off if Patcher comes out with another “MS will dominate in China and Nintendo will sell less than a million units”. He can burn in hell and making sure he says hi to Harold Camping (the guy that predicted the End of the World both in my birthday and 2012 lol.) I respect that you live in China of all those 10 years and hope you can probably give all of us some updates about the sales there once they begin selling 🙂 Rinslowe “I would laugh my butt off if Patcher comes out with another “MS will dominate in China” Hahaha! I’m literally smiling now as I type this, lol. If Pachter is – that – dense, well…. No hope for him. And what little chances he has at remaining relevant he better start fresh cause that won’t ever happen. Part of the report that I saw, mentioned Shanghai as a mandatory manufacture/ sourcing and assembly base for certain components. I originally thought that Nintendo would as well take issue to that requirement. But certainly there are aspects about the Xbox Ones innards that MS wouldn’t want China to know too clearly. There’s been a major push in the last few years to develop their own local products and services which are popular elsewhere. But unlike cheap knock offs of the past, China’s quality is lifting quite dramatically. And their prices are going up on everything. Still a China made console is, I would say one of their objectives… Nintendo and Sony better be savvy about it… Guest Patcher is already dense than it is after calling out to Nintendo fans, and i quote from him, “to stop bitching about it” I was like.. So Patcher is an analyst and says that? More like a paid to pretend to be an analyst. I would the companies to gather resources and such and build operations in certain areas to start manufacturing. Erik Patcher is dense as it is due to the fact is that he call Nintendo fans, and I quote from him, to “…stop bitching about it”. How is he an analyst and he made that kind of statement about us? He’s more like a paid person to pretend to be an analyst and talk crap about Nintendo. I would give the companies about 3 months in time to get things started and ready and start making their own place of operations and go from there. Logic There are ultimately two results for Nintendo as to entering the gaming market in China. One result will be a huge success of the Wii U, selling possibly over 100 million units. This is under the assumption that Nintendo completely dominates the marketing sector in China. To the gods, I praying that this will happen. The other result could be a complete shutdown and forcing Nintendo to lose millions of dollars. The reason for this is due to Nintendo’s notoriously bad marketing. If a huge population in the U.S cannot differ between the Wii and Wii U, what makes one think that Nintendo has the ability to attract millions of Chinese consumers? Furthermore, Nintendo doesn’t have a name in China. Zelda and Mario are unheard of in China and they are what Nintendo is most known for; marketing in China will be extremely difficult (especially with those knockoff competitors…consumers will be confused as f*k). Anyways, I think this is a good opportunity for Nintendo to expand their influence. Should Nintendo succeed in China, they will be in control of a huge market that could possibly surpass the western markets. Those extra hundred million Wii U sales will most definitely help Nintendo grab the largest market share for gaming in the world. Rinslowe “Furthermore, Nintendo doesn’t have a name in China. Zelda and Mario are unheard of in China” Actually this is flat out wrong. Almost everybody in their late twenties and upward is aware of Mario. The original Mario games were played to death in the early days, here. And it was a popular cartoon as well. Most people have experienced Zelda along the way also. You are right about marketing though. Their audience should be new comers to the gaming scene and that will require careful advertising and marketing. Wii – Wii U confusion will not be an issue as the Wii was – not – common knowledge in China anyway. Unless they plan to sell that terrible Wii mini… I hope not… Logic Seriously? This is China we’re talking about. They just recently lifted the ban on consoles. You stated, “Almost everybody in their late twenties and upward is aware of Mario. The original Mario games were played to death in the early days, here.” HERE. China is not North America or Europe. Mao’s regime didn’t let Chinese people play Mario and Zelda at the time. GmailIsDown lol during the late 80s and 90s i lived in China for a few years. some small city. and many families i knew at that time bought their kids a 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System. school kids would get together during the weekends to play games such as Contra, Super Mario, F1, and Ninja Turtles. the Chinese understood the original NES console so well, and there were even Chinese companies building competing compatible consoles similar to the original NES console and Chinese companies creating games for those consoles. Nintendo absolutely dominated Chinese market back then, even when they were not even officially there. the kids back then have all grown up now and they should be receptive to a renewed Nintendo. ask any Chinese in their 20s and 30s and i bet most likely they had played Nintendo games such as Mario and Contra when they were younger Rinslowe “lol during the late 80s and 90s i lived in China for a few years. some small city. and many families i knew at that time bought their kids a 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System” Exactly!!! 你说的对！ Rinslowe Yes I’m actually dead serious. There has been an official ban sure. And that really means just no official advertising or marketing or localisation support from the manufacturers. Consoles and everything else has been available here for longer than I have been living in China and you can get anything you want almost… But without official stores/ support/ marketing or localisation consoles have never made it to mainstream status… Again I’m dead serious. A lot of peeps on here need to get current on China as it is today. Cause a lot of the stuff I’m hearing is way, way outdated material man… Logic Believe me, I’m quite well-versed with how China works. Considering that I grew up in a Chinese-dominant area (not giving away exact location) in the U.S, I’ve become quite accustomed to it’s culture and attached to it’s history. Surely there are black markets that sell those kind of games, though the amount of people buying them was still extremely low. Even after Deng Xiaoping’s Economic reforms, the majority of the population was still unwilling to recognize foreign video games. The second part of your comment just proved my point. The majority of Chinese consumers had no idea about Nintendo’s existence due to no support, marketing and localisation at the time. Rinslowe I’m not trying to disprove your points. What I am pointing out is that in fact Mario was a household name. And with many people buying the NES and SNES they were playing Mario in the mid-late 80’s right through the 90’s. When you speak in terms of majority for a country like China, you must remember even back then there were in fact a large % of people playing and owning those consoles, even if the scale causes that description to fall under the term minority. This is truth. Now that I’ve been living in China for nearly 10 years I can vouch for that personally as the majority of my network are of this age. Almost all of them remember Mario and having played Mario for eg… Logic I won’t doubt a minority of the Chinese population played Nintendo games. However knowing how China was 10-20 years ago, I would think that minority falls under 1%. That’s a general assumption for the gaming market that played Nintendo games. In your case, you may have been one of those under that 1% and so were your friends. So from your perspective my points are inaccurate; though I’m still unmoved about points. Now your starting to drift off to another conversation, you originally replied to my comment of, “Furthermore, Nintendo doesn’t have a name in China. Zelda and Mario are unheard of in China.” The way that I see it, it doesn’t. Mario and Zelda never had a big name in China, especially 10 years ago. Maybe on 1% of the population knew about it10 years ago, though that’s extremely small in relativity to it’s population. Rinslowe I respect your opinion… Although I don’t agree with it, entirely. You can see the point I’m actually making. But chose to push your view as the only valid one at this point. It isn’t. JuleyJules The Nintendo DS has been available in China for years as well as a Nintendo version of the N64 so gamers in China are very aware of Nintendo and its games and characters. Nintendo should have an advantage because of this when they launch the Wii U in China. The 3DS was also launched there a couple of years ago. Logic And would you update me on those sales? Guest What sales? No idea what they’ll be or how DS sold in the past. Logic So what’s your point? LopsidedPasta Ok. I can be wrong about that, but you’re not getting a thousand dollars :). I’d = I would, and I won’t anymore. In all seriousness though, China is a thoroughly sad country. If I’m wrong, how come so many children there go into the basic equivalent of slavery? That’s something you don’t see in Japan and the US. Rinslowe I really don’t need your thousand dollars, lol. 🙂 But what about an apology for the unnecessary comments; ” then you’ve been talking out your ass since you created your account.” “what a retard.” I honestly don’t think I deserved that guy btw. About the situation in China… Well I’m not in a position to judge them. I’m not saying that I agree either, but when you’re a foreigner in a foreign land… We could go into many details as to how the US and China have their fair share of societal issues. But that would only help to further hostilities between people. I’m here for Wii U news and related information. Not mud slinging political debates. LopsidedPasta Those other two comments I take back, because you say that you do have a Wii U, you just got it via alternative means. If that weren’t the case, I would stand by them, but as it is I was wrong. My apologies. Rinslowe Thank you. Jacob D. Taylor I’d love to see the Wii Mini succeed in China. I’d love to see any of Nintendo’s systems succeed but I definitely feel the Wii Mini has a powerful chance as both an affordable and novel device. It’s a big cultural jump and also one in regards to market environment. I wil say this however, Nintendo is going to think LOOOONG and hard on this one before taking their one and only real big chance. Dimitri Theodosakis Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo should Released latest Hardware in China but with Online DRM where used has to be online 1 time every day, to make sure hardware has not be modded InterTreble Please, tell Pachter that his suggestion not to invest on Nintendo were a total fail. Since it’s his own job, he isn’t simply a troll/hater as a lot of people are, he is useless or even dangerous for his customers and for this world. TheMoeses Go Nintendo, you need to be the first in the China.