Over the past few weeks we’ve seen Nintendo announce that they are stopping production of the original Wii console in several territories, including Japan and Europe. This means that there are no Wii consoles being shipped to stores for shelf space, so whatever is currently on the shelves is it. Many of you have applauded this move as a means for Nintendo to get ahead with the Wii U and in truth, that’s exactly why the Wii is no longer in production. The unfortunate naming decision of the Wii U has lead to much retailer and consumer confusion. During the Christmas rush of last year, it wasn’t uncommon to see confused parents in the video game aisles of toy stores and supermarkets, holding failed UDraw tablets and saying to each other, “I think this is that Wii U thing Tony said he wanted.” As a gaming enthusiast, you might think it sounds silly that someone doesn’t know the difference between a Wii U and a UDraw tablet. They are separate things. But to consumers who are not informed about what they consider toys, one is hardly different than the other. We’ve seen the same cases of retailer confusion, too. Target most notably displayed an advertisement for the Wii U that showed a Wii U GamePad paired with a Wii console. A flyer for Fred Meyer that was recently sent out advertised a “Wii U Sports Resort” bundle for $99, depicting the Wii U logo below the advertisement while the actual box that was shown was a Wii. Retailer confusion is just as high as consumer confusion and Nintendo finally has more than anecdotal evidence of this. It turns out that during a six month period of this year, from April to September, Nintendo’s 7 year-old console outsold its newest offering. During that period, 470k Wii consoles were sold worldwide, while only 460k Wii U consoles were sold in the same period. That’s bad in terms of business, but it’s also bad for consumers and retailers. Retailers have limited shelf space for consumers and when the busy holiday season rolls around, they want to stock it with the product that is going to move the most units. Right now, that is the Wii, not the Wii U. For that reason, it’s understandable why the Wii received its death knell. As they say, The Wii is dead, long live the Wii U! local_offer Nintendo wii wii production wii u stars Further Reading F-Zero X gets updated on Wii U to fix control New Zelda Breath of the Wild trailer and game Super Mario Maker Wii U vs 3DS comparison (vi Get Ocarina of Time on 3DS for only $14 New teaser site for Zelda: Breath of the Wild released How to track NES Classic Mini stock in time for Christmas tronic307 Here’s hoping the Wii mini is no more as well. Let’s make it a clean break. AZHood No sugarcoating it, those numbers are bad. It’s gonna take a miracle for Nintendo to reach their Wii U projections by March 2014. Gameonfool Soon Nintendo wiil have to stop production of the wii u then maybe they will have to make a REAL games console AZHood Don’t be stupid. ScrewAttack Wonderful, another troll for the pot. As if there weren’t enough here already. AZHood If you have been been reading my comments on this site, the label “troll” certainly wouldn’t come to mind. I wouldn’t jump to assumptions so quickly The fact of the matter is that the worst thing Nintendo could do is end Wii U production “soon” and destroy consumer confidence and those invested in the company. The Wii U is a game console. Just because the games on the Wii U doesn’t interest a person doesn’t mean it isn’t a game console. ScrewAttack lol sorry not you mate, the tit above you. truthteller’s second account, goodbyenintendo. I’m loving every second of my Wii U. Jon and now we all got at least two downvotes. lol Probably butthurt he got found out so soon so decided to use both. 😉 ScrewAttack Downvotes for everyone! lol Some people are so pathetic it actually hurts a little. Of course I think I have another fan or two too, since my downvotes always hit 4-6. So sad. Jon oh look, it is that truthteller guy with a new account trying to make it look like more than just him are making the same prediction. Gameonfool Nah there’s just more people that know what’s coming Jon No, pretty sure you are him. New account, completely pirvate and your wording is even the same. Jelle Knibbe Wow, anti-ninty trolling already in your username. At least try to hide it, that’ll make you come off as an actual troll and less of a moron. Jan Well…I kinda agree with him. I’m a huge Nintendo supporter since the glorious NES (it has been a while now…), but the WiiU is quite disappointing so far… Jon Now I am kind of curious as to why. People are going on about the poor sales yet they are failing to compare them to the first year of the PS3, Xbox 360 when really the Wii U numbers are around the same as they were at this point in the year. The problem is people are going on numbers of systems that are already released and the Wii which is what most would call an anomaly as it hasn’t followed the typical trend of newly released consoles as it sold like hot cakes as it kind of revolutionized gaming. For support is never instant, why? because people don’t like giving support to something with a 4 mil user base vs a 70mil user base (or 240mil between all 3 last gen systems). Higher user base = more sales potential and people like money. Now once the other systems are out, you’ll most likely see the support increase as the other two systems won’t have a high 70 mil user base either so therefore, more systems means more potential users to buy. Now, this may not happen but it is more likely than to not likely. So I am not quite concerned at all, I’ll be getting concerned if I start to see the numbers not change or worsen by holiday next year. Also. I find it quite interesting how you came back after several months just to respond to my message from this guy. Truthteller Only Nintendo propaganda writers come up with a million an done scenarios as to why the Wii U has flopped without breaking it down in simple terms – Nintendo does not know what they are doing OR, people have had enough of Nintendo! Jon I am pretty sure that other name it is you, I call it, then shortly after, you are now the one responding, the other guy isn’t and I am betting that I’ll see a response from the other guy within the next 30 minutes or none at all, now that I brought it up. Sorry, but trolls are very predictable. I know because I have trolled other sites before in past years. Gregg 3DS would like to have a talk with you. Truthteller Those are handhelds, Nintendo has had those on lock since they started. Home consoles are different and Nintendo needs the talk on those! Gregg No way. loving my WiiU, and had a blast with the Wii. Still am. Struggles help companies grow and learn Zuxs13 Though i agree with you that the first year sales were similar but not as close as you may think any more. The difference is if you look at the sales curve of the PS3 and Xbox 360 the curve is rising steadily, but the Wii U on the other hand took a sharp decline and has had a minimal rise up to this point. So if the sales were to get back on par with the PS360, the sales will have to double its current life time sales in the next two months! That is where the differences are. Guest But that’s the god damn problem, you can’t compare a next-gen console with a current-gen, you have to compare the Wii U with the PS4 and Xbox one. And from that perspective, it’s not looking so good for the Wii U. Mipaol80 How could the Wii U be compared to anything but the Wii? The PS4 and Xbox One are similar consoles in that they are designed primarily for third party developers, and in such a way that developers can make a single game and port it between the two platforms efficiently. Nintendo on the other hand builds consoles not for easy porting of third party titles, but around a unique gaming experience, backed primarily by the strength of their high quality first party titles and unique third party titles, often exclusives, that are designed to take advantage of the console’s unique features. It is because of these two fundamentally different business models that one can not compare a Nintendo console to a Sony or Microsoft console, to compare a Nintendo console to a Sony or Microsoft console based solely on system power and number of third party titles is to ignore the very things that make a Nintendo console what it is, and what Nintendo’s long time customers have come to expect from a Nintendo platform. Guest Let’s agree to disagree. I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to compare a console with another console, because really, they are all the same crap. The only difference between them is hardware and games, so those things are the things you compare between them. The Wii U will have the smallest line-up of games and the worst hardware of all the next-gen consoles, whetever you like it or not. RoytheRobot ”the WiiU is quite disappointing so far” What is disappointing? The sales? Sylux Sales are bad but more importantly are false promises in which people are dissapointed (even me as long time nintendo fan still have 2 nes-es and 2 snes-es even, one European and one import American for both Systems) Nintendo promised the Wii U would bring back hard core gamers, tons of third party support great games, but in all honesty none have come true, 3rd party dropping support, most games available and coming available soon are party games, very poor advertising (which should and could have been different but nintendo blew it in the first year) terrible choice of name, releases an incomplete system which still hasn’t been fixed up to date almost 1 year later. The few hardcore games become available who knows when in 2014 and the few released this year are also poorly advertised and incomplete on Wii U. That are the things people are dissapointed in. Personally I’ll probably get a Wii U this holiday season not before and even in doubt about it as there are litteraly 2 games available which have my interest k k 4 games, MH3U, Sonic LW, Zelda WWhd and Zombi U similair for other doubters, even though wwhd is looking great it adds pretty much nothing new/better besides the HD graphics for people who played it on the GC, yet they ask full price for it, while it had been converted in 6 months. That are the aspects in which people are dissapointed in Wii U Simon Stevens Wind waker HD will knock your socks off, have fun getting them back on 🙂 Sylux I actually played it on my brothers Wii U as the graphics where pretty impressive HD quality and worth it, the game does not offer much besides HD for me as I played it on GC and still have it, I’ll probably get it though but won’t be the most played game for me 🙂 I’ll probably spent most time in MH3U (allready 300+ on the counter of my 3ds version) and Sonic Lost World 🙂 Simon Stevens Let me know if you MH3, I’d love somebody to play online with, maybe it was just my tv but the graphics on WWHD looked amazing, I didn’t care much for new features, I had a great sense of nostalgia for that game, you’ll love Sonic lost worlds, that was a great treat, I really wish I had more time for my wii u right now but I’ve just gone back to the Vita to replay Soul Sacrifice and Atelier Totori plus, if you do get a wii u, be sure to check out mighty switch force, those games are hidden gems >.< oman but isnt that what makes a so called, hard core game…..the graphics ? not ! Sylux I never said anything about graphics, I said that Zelda ww looks good. But hey I even prefer Zelda nes and snes over the realistic Zelda games, I did say more realistic like the tech demo fits Zelda imo, never said that makes the game hardcore, what does is the gameplay (second playthrough on original Zelda, Trojan, ghosts n goblins, castlevania nes/snes they where so difficult and that is what I count as hardcore) good gameplay and very high difficulty (wwhd hero mode, oot master quest count as well) RoytheRobot What do you mean ”hardcore gamers”? I don’t know how you could say that most games available/coming out are party games. A bunch of games are coming for it soon (SSB, MK8, Bayonetta 2, X, DKC:TP, SMT x FE, Yarn Yoshi, etc) and currently has a lot of great games to justify the purchase of the Wii U (Pikmin 3, W101, ZombiU, MH3U, NSMBU, NSLU, Sonic, 3rd party games, etc). Nintendo always (since the N64) have had problems with 3rd party support, we are even getting some of the top/most anticipated games (Watch Dogs, ACIV, COD GHOSTS lol, Batman, Skylanders, etc). WWHD isn’t full price and offers a lot of improvement IMO. In the end, I’m going to purchase a Wii U no matter what, but I respect your opinion…. oman i respect nothing……….just because we got wii party u and are getting re imagined versions of wii sports, we are gunna be inundated with party games ! the only reason we had a truck load of those games last gen is because 3rd party devs brought them to the console, tried copying the master, only to get caught out……serves ’em right ! Gregg Yea, the WiiU software lineup is more than solid. Hows it go? Haters Gonna Hate… Sylux I was talking about the first year most games don’t have my interest at all but yes it’s personal opinion only games I care for at this time for wii u are sonic, zombiu and monster Hunter 3u next year smash brothers dkctf bayonetta2 and X are added 2015 it’s zelda that are all games which have my interest at this time. mk8 is a great game but no fun playing it alone, as my friends irl are not Nintendo fans so for me it’ll be far less interesting unless it get’s a excellent online mode aswell then mk8 would get more interesting, but we don’t have enough info on it yet. New super Mario and luigi, pikmin 3 and w101 don’t have my interest at all, not my kind of games nor 3D world again personal opinion. Watch dogs and aciv lack content on both WiiU and xbox360/one making them less appealing on Xbox 1/360 and WiiU. Again my opinion indeed, I’ll adopt one end this year, possibly not before spring 2014 I haven’t decided yet. oman sony and microsoft get re-hashed games, charge full price, but no-one seems to bitch about that ! Sylux I have no reason to bitch about that never cared for Xbox anyway, and after the very dissapointing ps2 lost interest in sony as well (ps4 is very interesting though) I do have a ps3 but it’s collecting dust. The most played console for me was Wii then (3)ds. But yes I agree with you on rehashes Sony and Microsoft get (far worse then Nintendo consoles and noone bitches about that, epic fail for the fanboys, they whine on Nintendo getting Mario and Zelda every 3 years or so, revamped/renewed greatly in all aspects, visuals, graphics, music, controls but they forget the hardly renewed/revamped yearly releases of games on their platform of choice) Jan Nope. The selection of games proposed. The total lack of support from 3rd parties is a real problem… I love Nintendo classics but c’mon, we’re skipping A LOT of great releases because of Nintendo (and 3rd Parties) stubbornness. RoytheRobot I know they’re are a good amount of 3rd party games skipping, but it still has a good selection of 3rd party games. I’m sure that if the install base increase, a lot of 3rd party companies will come again to support the Wii U. oman nintendo tried to let third parties have first dibs on wii u, cos they whined and bitched last gen that they couldnt compete with 1st party titles. then started delaying releases or just half assing the games cos they were scared of the gamepad, yet they still wonder why their garbage isnt selling ! nintendo arent innocent either, wii u was a stupid name choice, as has come to light recently…..promotion of console has been near on non existent and the first party games are good, but few and far between ! Simon Stevens should have just called it the super happy NINTENDO party fun time console, imagine the ads for that 😀 Gregg I have had a blast with my WiiU, and it’s just getting started. WiiU has a lot of positive energy from it’s user base, a good price point, great new bundles, and it’s best games (yet) are just starting to hit. Jason I have to agree with Jan. I’m also an old school gamer. I started in an arcade, and my first home system was the Atari 2600. The NES was a Godsend. I love the Wii-U. It’s innovative and unique. It offers new ways to play games. Where Jan is correct, is that it has disappointed. Specifically, there are so few games out for it. It’s been a year since it’s release, and the library is pretty poor. The hardware is stronger than last generation systems (PS3 and XBox 360) but it won’t be able to keep up with the new systems coming out (PS4 and XBox 1). So in a big way, Nintendo squandered their chance to push ahead in the market. Cutting their price was a good move, however it won’t be enough anymore. Yeah, there are some really solid games coming out very soon, but I think it’s too little, too late. It hurts me to say all of this. I was a big supporter for the Wii-U. Truthteller No, it may shock you, but there are others who see things my way. Simple business rules state that you cannot put more money into something that is not making any money. You have to cut your loses sometime. gtosheex Yeah well simple business rules state if you put money into something, that something is more likely to make money for you then if you didn’t put money into it. Jon another rule is that you need to spend money to make money. Nintedward Wiiu is at 4M now globally. Through the holiday season it will sell a good 1.5-2.5M which will put it at 5.5-6.5M for its first year. Remind me how much the PS3 sold in its first year kiddy winks? E.X.A.C.T.L.Y And the REAL big hitters like Smash and Mario Kart are yet to come. Not damage controlling or anything, but you trolls are getting carried away with your doom scenarios. Wiiu has certainly underperformed, especially compared to the Wii. But the Wii was a phenomenon… If Wiiu gets to 6M by the end of the holiday season, then it may of underperformed but it hasn’t actually done THAT badly. Satoru Iwata Please understand, we are at 3.91m globally, but we are nearing 4m. This holiday, everyone will buy our Wii U. We will be at 10 million by the end of 2013. Thank you for supporting Nintendo. Zuxs13 Wow now Nintendo Employees are on crack. Gameonfool More like here in outer space certainly not here on earth Truthteller You must be on hallucinogens to think that the Wii U will sell 10M by the end of THIS year. tronic307 Get a sense of humor, man. Simon Stevens I love you Iwata ^^ never go away. Iván Enrique Garcerant Tafur 8 million is a bit more realistic. However it will be a good number since it’s nearly double the sales of any of ps4 or xbone . Zuxs13 First year sales of the ps3 was over 10 million! Nintedward Pretty sure it wasn’t… The 360 only sold 7-8 mill in its first year. Daniel Gonzalez Actually….he’s right. It sold 10.53 in it’s first full year. Yes, the first year sales of the 360 were higher. Jon actually, no the PS3 sold 5.63million after one year of it’s release. it was released at about the start of Q3 2006 and at the end of Q2 of 2007, it was 5.63. gtosheex he is correct! – how can you downvote the truth? haters! Jon yeah, the problem is people seem to think if it is released in Q3, then a whole year is the end of Q3 but with that logic, then the year starts in January and ends at the end of January when it really ends at the end of December. But they can downvote me if they want if it makes them feel better. At least I know I am better at math 😛 gtosheex yea but unfortunately that number still beats wii U’s sales for first year. oh well Zuxs13 Even if that is the case, then by then next QT the PS3 was at 10.53 million. Do you really think by march the Wii U will be even half of that #? Jon I am not saying that it is. It could be, it might not be. I was just correcting the mistakes people were making in saying that the Ps3 pretty much killed the Wii U in it’s first year when really, it didn’t. Zuxs13 Well to this point even 5.63 m first year sales of a $600 console is “killing” the Wii U’s current sales. And the PS3 took a sharp increase after the end of the first year. so far the Wii U is only showing a minor increase, it may yet “take off” but i honestly dont see it selling another 1.7 m by years end nor another 5m on top of that by end of march. Which would put it dramatically behind the curve. Daniel Gonzalez The argument you fail to realize is that the sales are tracked by quarters, not when the year ends. Which means, that sales were more than 5.63. No one is doubting your math, but your knowledge of how the market works, can be questioned. No offense. I’m not trying to be an ass here, but the market isn’t tracked by a month to month basis. In any case, I think the PS3 and 360 sales are the least of the Wii U’s worries. 😛 Jon yes I know, However how can I compare sales with one system to another when the sales people are giving have not happened for the Wii U yet? People are telling me to give the PS3 the same treatment when I am. The Wii U has not had it’s second holiday where the PS3 did have a second holiday when comparing those 10 million figures. Therefore if I was to compare the figures between Wii U and PS3, I cannot use the 10 mil figure because the Wii U has not had that time frame yet which is what you guys are all calculating. Downvote me all you want but you cannot deny that fact. I have based the sales figures I have for the first year of the PS3 and the first year of the Wii U. If you really want. I’ll go and find the monthly sales figures. *Edit* If it makes you happy, the PS3 in it FIRST FULL year (November to November 11, 2006 to November 10, 2007) It was just over 6 million units. There, does that make you happy? So really, my number was just about 400k off. (using VGchartz, those numbers should be reliable now) Daniel Gonzalez I would only downvote you if you were being disrespectful or trolling(which you did neither of). I don’t downvote over debates. 😛 I’m aware of the sales figures. Reason why I’m comparing them is because people constantly keep comparing the Wii U to PS3 too often, and most of them are very inaccurate. That fact you can’t deny. I would say it’s fair to give both the same time frame. As it stands, Wii U is at 3.91 right now, it has two more months of sales before the Q3 ends and we’ll see what they calculate to. However, with the PS4 and Xbox One around the corner, I don’t see the Wii U having a huge boost in sales this holiday since the best game out is Super Mario 3D World. While Mario can sell consoles, I doubt it’ll be a huge jump as some anticipate. I could be wrong, but we’ll see when the time comes. I feel that casuals have left and moved on to mobiles where the average casual is fine with games at a cheaper price than paying $40 to $60 bucks. Two more months we can see how this one plays out. As said, I wish Nintendo luck with the Wii U. John Andalora Well, no. First, let’s start with the original argument, which stated that Wii U will do extremely well over Christmas, insulting PS3 sales. So that’s Christmas to Christmas for Wii U. Why not give PS3 the same timeframe? Second, the problem with your argument. The PS3 was launched in Quarter 3 of Nov. 2006, which ends on Dec. 31. 5.63 consoles were sold at the end of the next quarter 2, which ends at September 30th, 2007. There’s still another 2-3 months of sales left to cover before it’s a full year. Third, unfortunately quarters are placed in a rather odd way, so 4 quarters from launch to Q2 doesn’t add up to the full year. So, all we can say for certain is that by the end of Christmas 2006 1.68 million PS3s were sold, and by next Christmas 10.63 were sold. Will we see that big a change in the sales for the Wii U? Probably not. Jon I didn’t give the Ps3 that time frame because I was not talking about sales that never happened yet. It is as simple as that so why would I give a reference to a time fram where the Wii U has never experienced yet. We don’t know how well the Wii U will do this Christmas. It could sell a million, or it could sell 10 million, or just totally flop, we don’t know so I cannot give the same treatment to the PS3 figures because the Wii U has not and cannot get the same treatment. *edit* After some digging, the PS3 in it FIRST FULL year (November to November 11, 2006 to November 10, 2007) It was just over 6 million units. There, does that make you happy? So really, my number was just about 400k off. http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39397/Global/ So keep downvoting if it makes you feel better, these are the numbers so you can stop with your “over 10 mil” John Andalora You stated, and quite clearly, that “the PS3 sold 5.63million after one year of it’s release” and yet you don’t give it the time of a full year. And as I mentioned before, Quarters are a bad system to mark things by, as they don’t start or end on the quarter beginning themselves. I typically will use what was sold from Christmas to Christmas. I do agree that comparisons to Wii U are not fair, but all the Quarter explanation tells us is that a full year after the launch of the PS3, sales were between 5.63 and 10.63 Jon I made an edit, the full year is there, from November to November. The sales were A LOT closer to what I stated and not these claims of over 10 mil. I was 400k off. Enjoy If you want, in 3 weeks, we can look at the Wii U numbers and then we’ll have a good comparison for the two for its first complete year and then both will have the same treatment. John Andalora I’m not sure what you are expecting, but the link sends me to a list of retail games at the week of Nov. 10, 2007. Where exactly is the chart that shows how much the PS3 earned at that week? Also, I didn’t downvote you. Just think you should know. Jon The chart on the right side that says “Global Hardware by Platform” John Andalora Okay, I see. Thanks for the clarification. However, the OP of this post (Nintendward) is still wrong. His comparison of Wii U with his predictions to full year of PS3 was bad, but then the fact that PS3 still sold more than Wii U in its first year just made it worse. Thank you for clearing up my previous statements and giving proof of your claim. Daniel Gonzalez It started in November of 2006, which makes it the middle of Q3, which ends in December. By Q3 in December, it was at 10.53. When I said one year, that’s basically what I meant since that’s how hardware sales are tracked. So yes, it is correct. Hope that clears it up. Zuxs13 I know this isnt a reliable source but: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3 first year sales were around 10.53million. And it took off from there. 6M in sales by the end of this year at the rate it is going is unlikely, even Nintendo said its two biggest most recent releases failed to push the consoles sales. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-30-nintendo-sells-more-wii-us-but-admits-its-still-hurting-profits So do you seriously think Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports Club, and Mario are going to provide a 10-20 fold increase in sales from now until the end of the year? Do you have any idea how unlikely that is going to be? And i know you rounded the Wii U lifetime sales up to 4M but at its current rate that last 100-150K it needs to reach 4M is about 2-3 months of sales! Daniel Gonzalez I can’t see the Wii U getting a 2.5 m boost in sales, let alone 1.5. 1m is possible, but it’s a small chance at this point. jrob23 There’s this little thing called Christmas coming up. Last year the Wii U sold over 3 million consoles during the holidays. They did this despite all the confusion regarding what it was, it’s high price, the lack of advertisement, and going up against consoles with huge install bases and libraries of games. This season they will be the budget console compared to the other two and this year they will have the price advantage and software advantage. It could easily sell 2-3 million. Zuxs13 Last year the Wii U was brand new and many people got it at launch. Since then it has plummeted in sales with little increase even after large games came out. I know Xmas is coming up, but the Xmas sales season started Oct 1 (that’s when retailers consider it starts) And so far the estimates have the global sales of Wii U in Oct at around 200-300k. So it would have to hit 10 times that in the next two months! Think Logically now, do you honestly think that this is possible? And if it does it would be just about on par with the first year sales of the PS3. But it will need an AMAZING holiday season, and its just not trending that way yet. jrob23 It’s almost as if you are intentionally ignoring the fact that last holiday season it did exactly what you are saying it can’t do…sell 10X more than 300K in two months. It literally did that last holidays despite all I said it had as headwinds. Most console sales come during the holidays. Why does this need to be explained to anyone? Zuxs13 Did you miss my whole first sentence. It sold that way last year because it was Brand New. All the Nintendo fans who are early adopters bought it. Now you need to actually have stuff worth getting more people to buy it! There really isn’t much. Not to mention the fact that i have said multiple times now and even stated numbers to back it it, nothing is trending towards the fact that it will sell that well. If October sales end up being 500-900k world wide, then Id say you will have a case for it to sell 3 mil be years end. But so far it doesn’t sound like that will happen. jrob23 I get it.. My point is consoles sell during the holidays as that is the obvious time for giving gifts. If it sold that well despite all the problems it faced it could do it again now that it has some compelling 3rd party titles and a stable of good 1st party ones. It has a chance. I think if by year’s end it can hit 6 million then come their fiscal year end in the spring with Donkey Kong, Mario Kart and Smah Brothers, it can move a few more. There is an outside chance it gets there. It really does need to keep the momentum of the WWHD going. Perhaps a strong Black Friday bundle at a discount can help. Gregg Cant say how much, but yes, they will have an impact. I personally am on board for every title you just mentioned. I may pass on Wii Fit U. Simon Stevens probably only sold that many due to many (myself included) having to replace it due to rrod Eiji Aonuma We prefer to have a smaller user-base with quality titles then a larger one with titles we regret launching. This being said, the Wii U will have a much larger user-base by the end of the upcoming holiday season. Truthteller It HAS done that badly. John Andalora Well, PS3 sold exactly 10.53 million units between its first Quarter 3 to its next Quarter 3 (About Christmas to Christmas). http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3 Also, by September, the PS3 had 5.63 (Christmas was a really big help to boost the sales). However, the point I’m trying to make is that PS3 sold a lot more than the Wii U by this time, and while it is possible for Christmas to turn it around, comparing the Wii U to the PS3 only hinders your point and shows how unsatisfactory sales of the Wii U are. Just thought I should notify you of the concerns so you can make a stronger argument in the future. jrob23 right, but it was also a blu ray player and that fact alone accounted for a lot of sales as people figured they could kill two birds with one stone. The Wii U also came out during a major recession whereas the PS3 came out during the boom years. The PS4 Xbone will not do as well as their predecessors. Let’s compare the Wii U to them as they are the same gen. John Andalora So, the reason I even said anything was because the OP compared the Wii U and PS3 sales. I wasn’t saying it’s right to do so, I was merely stating why it was flat out wrong. I do agree that we should compare sales by next gen consoles rather than next/previous. However, I still do point out when peoples arguments are flawed. Squid Soon Microsoft will have to have good games that aren’t about killing things. Simon Stevens If they could get to 6.5 million, they’d be lucky and should be happy given all the stick they’ve received, most people I know are just plain indifferent towards thw wii u, guess that’s just us brits for ya, got more important things to moan about, like the price of crumpets going up, americans moan too much, funny, I haven’t heard a peep outside of Japan, have they hoped on the wii u is doomed band wagon yet? AZHood Actually, Japan is the only place where the Wii U is outselling the Wii during the same time-frame, so it doesn’t appear to be “doomed” over there so to speak. Simon Stevens Simple people, gotta love em 🙂 Zuxs13 selling 1000 more units a week is not really anything to speak of… AZHood It is in Japan. Zuxs13 not really, last week it sold 2,000 units in japan. That down right SUCKS. So it out selling the wii which sold a 1000 units, is nothing to speak of. That is almost as BAD as the Xobox sells in Japan!! AZHood The point is it’s doing better in Japan then anywhere else. Add the fact that Japan is a place is dominated by the 3DS, Xbox has no major influence, and where the PS4 is delayed until February, that is saying something, no matter how small. Zuxs13 Its NOT doing better in Japan than any where else! North America is its best market with nearly 50% of all the Wii U Sales!! It is FAILING in Japan big time. It has sold more in one day in NA than it did all month in Japan. AZHood You’re missing the point. During the latest quarter, Japan sold more Wii U units than Wii units. That is where Japan is doing better than everywhere else. Furthermore, it sold better since launch than the Vita and PS3 launch in Japan. Zuxs13 Right now, North America is carrying the Wii U. Japan and eurpoe combine sales are about what NA sales are. Simon Stevens Might of sold better too had it not been for certain American journalists…. well they call themselves journalists at all, I’d slate Nintendo too if somebody would pay me the kinda cash dangling under their noses Levi Johansen Will not take a miracle, just a TV advert across America and Europe – there still has not been one that explains the difference of Wii and Wii U. Also, now that Wii is no longer being produced they will dissapear from stores and even those who don’t know the difference will not be able to buy the wrong console. Buying Wii games doesn’t matter since Wii U is backwards compatible. When Mario, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are out the Wii U will sell better than ever before and kill all the skeptics. AZHood Nintendo has to sell at least 5 million more Wii U units by the end of March to reach their 9 million unit projection. Given how only one of those games will be out by then (I’m predicting Smash and MK8 to be released after March), continued retailer and customer confusion, and the next consoles from Sony and Microsoft, reaching that number is not going to be an easy task. Maybe they’ll hit it, maybe they won’t. As it currently stands, it’s not looking likely. Gregg Nah, just good software, better bundles, aggressive pricing, and removal of the Wii/WiiU confusion. All of this, is happening now. Let’s see….. Mario But is legacy lives on… Keith D. Witherspoon Oh what if, and this isbjust an idea, I’m not expert, but ehat if actually started advertising the Wii u? I know it sounds crazy. I mean no other console has ever done this. But Nintendo is knoen for their innovation. But it just might work…. fireheartis1 LOL dude stop being so sarcastic. Anyways you are right though Nintendo needs to advertise this new console that rocks so much. If they did that the Wii U would be known even better. Yes at a point they need to stop producing Wii’s and it may be too early right now, but if they actually would advertise outside of the internet they would make more sells for sure. fireheartis1 It’s a good thing I kept my old Wii. It was a great console and has great library of games to enjoy. Sure it had a lot of shoveware to shift through, but there is actually 256 great games to choose from in the Wii library. I know your going to say “but the Wii U can play Wii games”, how ever, Wii is my favorite console of all time and I just couldn’t see that little white console go lol. Eiji Aonuma We hope to greatly increase the Wii U user-base with our next iteration in the Zelda series. More information will be revealed nearer to E3 2014. Zuxs13 E3 2014? so almost 2 YEARS into the console cycle. Im sorry that is too little too late. ScrewAttack a) a year and a half, b) It’s a Zelda title. I’d rather it launch a little into the console’s life so the developers can make use of their ever-increasing knowledge of the U’s infrastructure. Zuxs13 by the game comes out after E3 it will be 2 years or more! I agree with the development, but he was referring to the game “saving” the console. A game coming out in “winter 2014” will be way too late to “save” the console. ScrewAttack Ah now that’s just an assumption, it could well be they have a near-finished/finished game to show us next E3. Another assumption, I know, but it doesn’t always have to be doom and gloom. The console doesn’t need saving. It’s going to putter along like every other Nintendo console, not benefitting much from turd parties and just getting it done by itself. Only reason that didn’t happen in the first half of the year is because Nintendo believed that all these partners and friends they’d just made (EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc) were actually planning to release full games on their system, not back-stab, bad mouth, gimp and otherwise fuck Nintendo over from behind. They made a mistake giving the launch over to turd parties, I don’t think they’ll be making that one again. It’ll be fine mate. It won’t be the xbox 360 we were expecting and looking forward to, but it’ll still be a quality gaming platform. Honestly, with the games out and coming out, the price cut, and the massive problems Sony and MS are having with their new consoles (have a look-see on NeoGaf, it’s as if the apocalypse is coming over there) I think Nintendo will do just fine. nexxus6 Nothing would hurt Zelda more than to rush it to market. It’s nice having a couple years between Zelda titles, anticipation leads to increase demand. I would hate to see Nintendo drop Zelda titles every year or 2 like COD. Zuxs13 I never said anything about RUSHING it to the market!! I am responding to his post that it will save the console. Dec 2014 is too late for this game to save the console. What dont you understand about that. Eiji Aonuma We have been working on bringing quality titles to both the Nintendo 3DS family and Wii U System. The Wind Waker HD having recently been released helps bring more awareness to the Legend of Zelda franchise and helps our team to get used to the time needed for a higher definition game. We are using the experience to optimize Zelda Wii U and push the console to it’s limits. Zuxs13 Unfortunatly according to your own finacial report (seen here : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-30-nintendo-sells-more-wii-us-but-admits-its-still-hurting-profits ) Zelda along with pikmin 3 FAILED to push consoles like you had expected. Eiji Aonuma Initial sales at the beginning were not as strong as we would have wanted, however we hope that with a new strong advertising campaign, that we make up for the sales. Zuxs13 So you will have to spend more money than you have made in order to increase sales of a product that failed to cause enough sales? That isn’t smart business practices. You apparently have failed at business or have no knowledge of how it works. But thanks for be an enthusiastic fan. nexxus6 I am glad Zelda WiiU wasn’t rushed onto the market. Too many so called gamers are too impatient now a days. They think that quality games are made overnight. JuleyJules Seriously they need to advertise Wii U more right NOW and the games coming (Mario 3D World, Wii Party U, Wii FIt U, Mario & Sonic Olympics) on tv as well as Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, SSB, Bayonetta 2 etc as we get closer to Christmas so people know they’re around the corner. We also need another Nintendo Direct before the launch of PS4 and Xbone with some surprises (ie Star Fox or Metroid announcements AND Zelda U footage even if it’s just a clip like we’re getting for SSB so fans can get really excited. In 2014 they need to take a page from their own 3DS track record and release limited edition consoles for DKC:TF, MK 8, SSB, Bayonetta 2, Zelda U etc as they come out. Maybe not all of the games but certainly some of them – MK 8 with a wheel, SSB with a pro controller and specific designs for those games for example. Gameonfool Good luck E3 2014 may be to late just to show something that people still have to wait for Daniel Gonzalez I think they should have ended the Wii sooner. Though, it’s not like sales hurt the Wii U since Wii’s haven’t been higher than 25k in weekly charts. In any case, taking the Wii out of the picture gives the Wii U a better chance in selling. Zuxs13 Yeah with the Wii gone there can’t be any confusion, even if the kids want a Wii, the parents will have to buy a Wii U. Daniel Gonzalez True. It doesn’t guarantee better sales, but it does give it a better chance. If sales are still bad after all this, then fans can’t blame it on retailers anymore. nexxus6 I do agree that removing the Wii might clear up confusion, but I don’t think Nintendo should have done this move earlier. Why would they want to take money out of their pockets? They were making money off the Wii, so that is why they kept selling it. Now with no one investing money on developing games for it, Nintendo knows the Wii’s time has past. Plus, what kind of retailer doesn’t educate it’s employees on products that they sell. Nintendo can only hold hands for so long. Truthteller The kids won’t want a Wii or Wii U, they want a PS4. Taking one away does not bring awareness to the other. The Wii U still has “Wii” in it’s title with a similar logo so there will still be confusion. Maybe this fiasco will teach Nintendo that the baby image is over and on their next one, they will get ill. If not, they will be making handheld systems and software for the big boys. Zuxs13 So now they are no longer a “kiddie” company they are a “baby” company. Can you arguments get any worse?? Simon Stevens he’s got a point, the hd graphics reveal all, i never noticed mario had a bib round his neck and what about that pacifier behind his ear?, wow, such a babies console Simon Stevens My kid wanted a wii u over the other 2, most of his friends at school are getting one for christmas, kids under 10 will most likely take mario 3d world and pikmin 3 over killzone, just saying. Zuxs13 Well in Truthtellers world all kids play CoD from age 2 on up. Jon you forgot about GTA there too. it’s CoD and GTA Simon Stevens Ah those were the days, I’ll always remember my son’s first words “no mario for me dadda, i want cod” andrewjcole Yeah… all kids wanna play your kid friendly Stoot ’em up games. Andreas Sunde Or a Wii Mini, which is still in production. People seem to forget that. Truthteller That is the reasoning, but if people were going to buy the Wii U, they would have bought it. When people want something, there is no confusion. All of those iPhones look alike but people are not confused about which one they want! SamusPrime There are numerous things that I “want” that I haven’t purchased. Just because someone “wants” doesn’t mean they will go right out and purchase it. Simon Stevens Seconded, I want a ps4 but it doesn’t mean I will buy one straight away, once they show me an entry from the Atelier line of games, kingdom hearts 3 on the shelves and a few more worth while titles, I’ll pick one up then, I imagine that’s most peoples approach to the wii u Jon ok, here is major flaw in your statement. You say if people want something, they would have bought it already. If that was the case. when something comes out, everyone that wants it would buy it and then it would never be sold again pretty much because everyone who was going to get it, would have bought it. Is that the case…with anyone? No, simply because people have other reasons for not buying something when they want it anyway whether it is money, time, kids, work, etc. Rinslowe Don’t feed the troll, just….don’t. Daniel Gonzalez I think as much as we say that…..very few will listen.Lol. Nuno Well, all things considered it was probably the best step to take. It’s just frustrating to think that this could (probably) have been avoided with the proper advertisement and (yes, to whomever this might hurt their feeling) the console’s name and logo. RockieOllie They should have changed the name, should have changed the name. Anyone remember Nintendo Stream?? Jer81 Remember NES and SNES. Or what about Playstation and Playstation 2, 3 and 4? Or Game Boy and Game Boy Advanced. And what to think about the same argument that was used against the 3DS (DS-3DS)and it’s poor sales. Turns out that games, games and games turned the 3DS into a huge succes. RockieOllie Hello? Nintendo Entertainment System to Super Nintendo Entertainment System sounds like a clear upgrade. PS1 to PS2 is an obvious numerical installment. U is just a letter, Super Wii or Wii 2 sounds a lot more distinguishable than Wii U. Jack5221 Moment of silence for the Wii and ALL its glory, including the awesome games, hours of fun, and 100 million+ sales. ……………………………………….. Bob Wilkerson And since Nintendo makes the only console that is backwards compatible with the games, controllers, and accessories of their previous generation there is no real harm done to the gamers since they can easily play Wii games on the Wii U. Truthteller Or – they can just keep their Wii! Neither system has any classic games, although the Wii has more that can be considered classic by some than the Wii U. Adderell yeah…. sit down in that chair over in the corner. Zuxs13 Wii U having classic games is like saying the PS4 has classic games! How moronic of an argument you are trying to make. andrewjcole Your PS4 won’t make history of the best system on the planet. Deal with it. JohnnyKnoxville I think that once the PS4/XB1 are out on the market for a while, the Wii U would be on equal footing and will gain traction then. Takes time though. Truthteller No, the Wii U will be even more of an afterthought. Jon do you have other statements in your copy/paste file? andrewjcole Hmm… I wonder who downvoted this… (sarcasm) Yen I don’t see why the Wii outselling the Wii U is as bad as some people say. The fact is, the Wii sold REALLY good. The Wii U’s biggest competition isn’t PS or XBox, it’s the older brother, Wii. Daniel Carvalho That’s the problem. If the Wii U doesn’t outsell the Wii, then it’s going to become a PS Vita. Yen The Vita sold poorly because there are newer and better games on the PSP even now, 2 years after Vita was released. The Wii U won’t have that problem. Daniel Gonzalez PS3 and 360 are outselling the Wii U and have been for several months since its launch. They are the competition right now. Wii has barely sold 25k a week. PS3 and 360 make 4-5 times that amount. Not to burst your bubble there. Though, they will have to deal with the PS4 and Xbox One eventually once they are released next month. With all this said, it’s going to a tough ride for the Wii U and wish Nintendo the best. Yen So let me ask you this. Since so many people bought PS3 and 360s recently, do you really think they’ll be buying PS4 or the Xbox One so soon? Some might, but most people probably won’t. So the PS3 and 360 sales now is also the number of people that are less likely to buy a PS4 or Xbox One. I’m not an economist though so there’s probably flaws in that statement. My point was, Wii selling well also means less people that will be buying a Wii U anytime soon. Which is why I say the Wii U’s biggest problem is the Wii because people can always buy a PS3/4 and a Wii U or a Xbox 360/One and a Wii U, but most won’t be buying a Wii and a Wii U within a year probably. Daniel Gonzalez Wii wasn’t selling that much for the past 6 months, so no, I don’t think that the Wii factors into the Wii U’s poor sales. I won’t argue too much on this one, cause it doesn’t really get anywhere. With 1.5 million preorders for PS4, I think that PS4 will most likely bring in 2 million in hardware this holiday with Xbox One having around a similar number. So, I would say that those who bought a ps3 or 360 probably won’t, but there are a lot of other people who will be eyeing a ps4 and xbox one, however. I’m sure Wii U will do okay this holiday, but I don’t see it making a huge impact like many seem to believe. That’s just how I see it. Rinslowe This is to be expected though right? PS3 and Xbox 360 are admittedly very tempting investments for the frugal and wallet conscious this holiday season. A massive library of great titles some of which you can get for a steal, hardware pricing being very competitive in comparison not to just Wii U but every other console on the market and most importantly they both have continued support. I think we”ll all find that until some time into the future that these “current gen” systems will be outselling “next gen” in the exact same way… This article pretty much outlines why the Wii is not in that same category, as support for the system has been nigh on non-existent for some time… It just makes perfect sense to discontinue the system now. Some important factors to note however are; (And not to be a Ninty fanboy…) Wii lifetime sales is around the 104 million unit mark. As of May 2013 both PS3 and 360 lifetime sales were around 80 million. Both could possibly overtake the Wii’s lifetime sales by 2013 end, but that is yet to be confirmed as fact. Both ‘current gen” HD systems took years to break even and turn a profit whereas Wii has been profitable practically from the very beginning. All ‘next gen” systems Wii U included will face stiff competition from “current gen” HD consoles this Christmas due to price point. PS4 and Xbox 1 will sell a no’ of units at launch but the momentum will taper off due to lack of critical titles. Whereas Wii U has been building momentum for last 3 months, arguably that piqued only 1 month ago where according to the stats 260k units moved in that period alone due to WW HD mostly I’m guessing which is roughly 86% of Q3 sales in a third of the time. Taking into account these are tier 2 games we are talking about. Mario is what could be classed as a genuine system seller but these recent stats speak for themselves regardless. Not trying to paint a pretty picture for the Wii U, but if the recent trend is anything to go by, Nintendo are at the least preparing to address these issues mentioned above. Daniel Gonzalez Profit was never the argument, nor was the Wii’s hardware sales. I’m not putting it down nor am I a fanboy just to make it clear for everyone, but I don’t see the Wii U selling that great in the holidays. Perhaps 2014 could be a better year, but it remains to be seen. It’s safe to say that the Wii U isn’t going to make it past 10.53(PS3 sales)in a full 4 quarter year at this point. I’m being a realist. I’m sorry if that offends people here,(not you in particular Rinslowe) but I don’t see the Wii U repeating what the Wii did in it’s first year. 3.91 is where the Wii U sits at while the Wii was at 20.14 at December, fat chance of it to say the least. Rinslowe No, I respect that. Profit was something I added in there on my own accord for the sake of a wider perspective, so no need to worry too much about that part. I don’t think comparing PS3 and Wii U stats (first full year) like many other posts here today is relevant to either of our posts (being the one I replied to and the one you replied from). My point was Wii U is not alone when considering how “current gen” will effect everyone’s overall sales not just the U but PS4 and Xbox 1 as well… I wouldn’t want to place a bet on 10m Wii U unit sales by years end either, no matter how much I would like to see Nintendo rise above their current situation. What I was implying was that, firstly we all know of the U’s struggling performance. How that has played out over the first 6 months of 2013… But with the release of tier 2 games the system made an 87% increase in unit sales from Q3 over Q2 and has reportedly increased again in last 4 weeks by over 86% of the entire Q3 unit sales in a third of the time. This is an upward trend, which shows that with the release of even tier 2 games Wii U can begin a reversal of their downward trend of previous quarters… I believe they have a no’ of titles poised to maintain momentum, AAA third party titles will assist in very small part but Nintendo absolutely needs to release these titles starting with SM3DW in consecutive fashion to maintain that forward momentum. Do I think that equates to a 10m unit rise in sales by years end? not a chance, But this is also not the point. I don’t know anything about being offended and cannot speak for others but again as always we are not strictly in disagreement… ;P Elitepwnsface Maybe now that the Wii is going i won’t see those shitty motion controls anymore. BIG Franky while the Wii outselling the Wii-U is bad in terms of business, unfortunately it is also typical in terms of introducing a new console generation…. remember, the PS2 outsold the PS3 for more than two years after the PS3 launched. regardless, the Wii U launch has been an epic disaster and text books could be written about what NOT to do when launching a system based on the first 9-months of the Wii U’s launch….. all that being said, I do think Nintendo may have righted the ship in the past 2 months…. and may be positioned to do well going forward if they have a strong Christmas season coming up….. couple that with what will most likely be an under-whelming launch for both PS4 & XB1 (we all know that these things never go as planned), given that neither will live up to the hype, Nintendo might come out in a decent spot. Truthteller So, hoping for failure of the comp so that they can be brought down to Nintendo’s level of mishaps is supposed to help Nintendo? It is easier to just say that Nintendo messed up and the Wii U WILL be discontinued by March. There is no must-have game coming for the Wii U by Xmas that will move units. Stopping the production of the Wii won’t help either, all it will do is stop profits on a system that is selling. Jon so, why do you hate Nintendo? Truthteller Because they don’t give the people what they want, they want us to accept what they want to give us. Jon They don’t give people what they want, or give you what you want? There is a lot of people that want Mario, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Smash bros and so on. Yes I also want stuff like Metroid and Star Fox also but it isn’t like a company can just give me everything I want right now. That is something you should have learned as a child. Because you want something, doesn’t mean you will get it or get it all at once. Every company has stuff where people want something but don’t get it, yet at the same time, the stuff that those people do not want, others do. You cannot please everyone. Also, everything that people want is also not always up to Nintendo. This is a simple fact you should have learned when you were a small child. You don’t always get what you want in life, so stop trying to act like you should. Bob Wilkerson Some people want more of the same apparently just with prettier graphics and a console that talks all about cores and ram instead of the games and how they are played. Gameonfool Because they use to be the Disney of video games now they just think that gimmicks will sell their consoles without sprinkling to much magic over their games when they actually have games to play that is, plus they have lost their epic ness Just look 3D world, what a missed opportunity Zuxs13 First of all they have had very few “gimmicks”, and yeah some games are not as “magical” but have you ever stopped to think that maybe you just have grown up? And i highly doubt you have played 3D world especially at its current form so i doubt you can effectively say whether or not its a missed opportunity. BIG Franky Douche, no one is hoping for the failure of anything…. I have my PS4 pre-ordered. my point is, there is now a decent library of games available for the Wii U, the same cant be said a year ago. there are major releases coming out in the next few months. this is all a net-gain for Nintendo. The other consoles have had news recently that would be categorized as a little more grim. major launch titles delayed, no really sexy launch titles that will be available at launch, etc. Look, if you think that the launch of XB1 & PS4 will be smooth sailing, you’re clearly an idiot, LOL…. Michael Ocampo Seriously!!! Whenever i hear there’s confusion, i think of the UDraw because come on now. Wii U – UDraw? They both have touchscreens which might confuse some consumers. BIG Franky honestly, before I purchased my Wii U, I remember searching for the Wii U on AMAZON and the top items would all be related to the UDraw for the wii….sure, for us gamers that are educated in such matters, it isn’t confusing…. but for mom/dad or grandma/grandpa that is buying a gift for someone else? its a disaster. Zuxs13 I think you are underestimating just how ignorant consumers are. Justin Clark It’s weird because I remember reading that Nintendo at E3 had meetings with retailers that had renewed their confidence in the WiiU. If that was true why are so many failing to advertise it correctly? Also, I agree the system should have been called Wii2 and Nintendo needs to do a much better job at getting the word out about the system, but I think the games media has done them a huge disservice. I just finished watching the Assassins Creed 4 quicklook at Giantbomb ( a site I respect) which was hour long. During that time they discuss the game being on every platform except the WiiU. Three editors and not one of them even says, “Hey is this coming to WiiU?” They even discuss the second screen stuff for PS4 and X1, which is a selling point on WiiU for me because the screen apart of the controller. audi lover 10 thousand more wii sold in same period but its less than half the price of a wii u, pocket change for me quite frankly and at least 59 thousand of those were probably miss sold by a retailer who doesn’t even know they are two diff consoles, the worlds full of sheep and idiots SamusPrime 460k units in 6 months isn’t very good, however, in the first 3 weeks of October, the WiiiU has managed to sell over 210K units (per VGChartz), not 100% accurate, but should be in that ball park BIG Franky yeah, we have to remember that the 3 months reported by Nintendo only include 10 days of the new lower price and 10 days of the Zelda bundle. John Andalora Yay! They used my article idea from Kotaku! Thanks! Is_Mort It ate the crap out of wii u sales. Nintendo really messed up big time. bizzy gie Wii U will pick up sales significantly come holiday/2014. It’s almost a fact. Madmagican This makes perfect sense NOW STOP WII PRODUCTION FOR NORTH AMERICA. Hipster Victor I think it really is the only way to save the wii u is to cut off the wii. Think about it atloeast it’ll force the lazy retailers whats the difference between the two NkoSekirei those lazy retailers need glasses or something to till the difference between a wii and a wii u seriously thats a big facepalm. MysticDude97 Yeah, I saw that coming. blindtiger get the wii out of here! the wii u is a wii on steroids. the wii has no purpose anymore. wii u is backward compatible and even uses wii controllers in wii u games. wii u is cheap and powerful. wii u will be fine… mario is the first “real” “new” “classic” nintendo franchise to come out. the wii u will sell a ton this christmas and the sales will continue to climb with kart smash and x… and i cant wait! Rinslowe Discontinuing the Wii is a great move on Nintendo’s part and about the right timing as well if not a tad late, arguably… Wii U is effectively a Wii, a Gamecube, N64, SNES & NES; and everyone who wanted those consoles in mainstream has already done so… This puts the U in a pretty good strategic position IMO should Nintendo choose to capitalise on their vast back catalogue of monstrous hits. WW HD has shown what is possible for a complete overhaul on their flagship titles but what about others games that Nintendo has little drive to upgrade, but which a large no’ of fans would love to see receive a little HD treatment? I think they should make this latest rumour into fact and provide an app which works in the same way as a dolphin emulator, or through a system update, or just in-house and made available to the E-shop which simply takes the original game and applies simple upgrades like textures and resolution to 1080p. This would be a lot faster than 6 months of coding by a dedicated team. They could literally get a handful of titles to the E-shop within that timeframe… I’d imagine if they took this approach and made available every possible game first and third party (those they still have a licence to publish) titles from the N64, Gamecube and Wii on E-shop with a simplle texture and resolution upgarde, then people would literally buy the Wii U just for that reason alone. Perhaps it is time to genuinely hack n slash the Wii, thank it for it’s stella performance and ask it to catch a ship with the elves to the old world and let the Wii U take it from here… The True Gamer I hated the Wii. Ruined Nintendo in my opinion. Wildman There was a man in the local game shop. His son said, “Look dad! A Wii U.” His dad replied, “Isn’t that just a Wii with that tablet thingy?”. I have seen it firsthand. People don’t know what the hell a Wii U is. It’s just a Wii with a tablet. I ought to smack the hell out of some people… SMH. ZeldaFan83 I find it funny that when a Nintendo Console is doing great then all these wanna-be fan boys come in saying “oh yeah Nintendo is the best of all time, all hale Nintendo” but when they aren’t doing so well all they do is complain “Nintendo you should just give up, I am very disappointed in you, you should just stop making Wii U’s and come out with a new console that will actually sell”. So to all you wanna-be Nintendo fan boys that don’t deserve to be called fans of Nintendo because you only like them when their doing good well this is for you: SHUT THE F*CK UP!! A real Nintendo fan likes them regardless of how well sales of that console are doing, you like Nintendo for what they have to offer and who they are not how much they sell. I love my Wii U and they have great franchises that I love and cherish whether it’s Zelda, Mario, Donkey Kong, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Metroid, etc. Nintendo makes some of the greatest games in the industry and of all time and even Microsoft and Sony have admitted that, when they make a game they use Nintendo’s games for inspiration. So quit your BITCHING about how you think Nintendo is going downhill or your disappointed in them or you think they need to just give up because I know that next year when the Wii U just explodes in sales with all the great software that will be coming out your gonna be back on here saying how you love Nintendo again, just either love them, hate them or be neutral and stick with it, stop changing your mind every 5 minutes. Well that’s all I have for my rant. P.S. sorry for the profanity I never say words like that but I’m just sick of all the fake Nintendo lovers-haters. Okay that’s all, Good-bye. Steelmullet Well makes sense. I hope it actually works though! Jacob D. Taylor Ok leople. PLEASE tell me why the Wio U is “dissapointing” please put some values behind your claims. Let me know why its nad and lets reason for a minute. The Wio U is PerForming on par wity the 360 and ps3 on their launches. Have you all seriously forgotten the abysmal failure the ps3 was at launch? Its not even debatable. TheWii U had the most games at launch than any oyher syste. Yesits had a lull but what the hell, that goes away. Id rather any 3d party game on the Ithan any other system because iydthe same shit but with an EXTREMRLY valuable screen in myhands. Honestly… honeztlyhonestly honestly. Id you dont like the wii u there teally is no reason for it anymore. There is NO reason to not like the Wii U anymore wildbob777 It is hard to believe it took them so much time to realize that so many products with the same name confuse customers and shop assistants too… I was in Cora yesterday, Nintendo shelf was such a mess, many Wii games marked as Wii U games and vice versa, hardware for Wii and Wii U mixed together, often marked uncorrectly, you could see customers wandering which version should they buy… Nintendo should have removed Wii and Wii mini before they started to sell Wii U. Advertising Wii U is another big disaster… Keep it simple and it will work… iamserious There’s a Wii min!?! John Madsen Nintendo already started taking wii channels offline so this decision doesn’t surprise me at all and because most of the channels only work on a real wii not a wii u i can fully understand this move but they have some huge issues one being how many people will notice when mario kart stops working online!!! Cyberus It’s 2013. Do we need an in depth analysis on why they aren’t selling last gen systems. I expect a editorial by tomorrow telling me why I can’t buy a N64 at GameStop anymore Andrew W Garttmeyer What a silly mistake NES made. Taking away the confusion factor, Wii U was/and still is a horrible name imho. iamserious Aside from the name, Nintendo’s Wii U system is freakin amazing! And to say it doesn’t have games is a bunch of mularky! It has a bunch of very fun and even cheap (considering the $60 standard) games. It plays all Wii games and supports off TV play (play the games on the gamepad). Idk man, seeing as how Nintendo isn’t selling Wii U’s as it should I don’t think it’s just a matter of the name or lack of “next gen” power. It may in fact be the economy as a whole and people just aren’t readily capable to shell out hundreds of dollars for video game consoles. Sony and MS better watch out. Zuxs13 I would agree with you about the economy, IF, people were not buying the 3DS like crazy, still buying the 360 and PS3, and buying Ipads and Iphones like mad. The economy is a lame excuse and is certainly only a minor factor. The reality is too few consumers even know about the Wii U or what it is, this has been proven. And when you compare the Wii U to what else is available right now, it has a very very small library of games to play. Why buy a Wii U to play a handful of games when you can buy a PS3 for the same price with a ton more games, and all the hottest games coming out this fall/winter? That is how consumers are looking at it. iamserious Well if it is a matter of software then Sony’s PS4 and MS’s XBONE will have a very slow start just like Nintendo’s Wii U is. Zuxs13 They will sell slow. They will sell out of their initial release volumes and pre-orders for sure. and stay strong till the end of the year the tapper off dramatically after that, until some actual games come out on them. farrellbr Aleast Mario Kart is hopefully coming soon like2nap I never understood the confusion in the name. Even before the E3 reveal I knew it was a new console and the gamepad was the controller. People are so stupid…it gives me headaches. like2nap So Timmy wants a Wii U? Then buy the box that says “Wii U”. How do you get Wii U confused with UDraw? Bob 80% of why the sales are low is the name. Wii should not have been in the name. Noah Anyone else feel like the sales of U thus far have created a sort of reverse hype train? Nintendo has a mediocre year and everyone goes crazy and screams “OMG ninty iS dead!!111!!!” Mipaol80 I wonder why Microsoft didn’t have this problem when they named the successor to the Xbox the Xbox 360, I get the feeling that’s kind of the direction Nintendo was trying to go with the Wii/Wii U but for them it backfired. NL37 thats a good point Mipaol80, i think because it sounds like a step up, so like a choice between coke, and coke 360? coke 360. wii u sounds like an expansion pack ud find in a bargin bin, theyr prob thinkin really hard on wat 2 name the next one, IF they r [CMD] DEATH Well that’s fine cause there are so many Wiis out there that you don’t need to buy a new one, I went to this pawn shop and saw like 10! So this is fine. BrianC6234 They should dump the Wii U and go back to the Wii. Sell it for $50 and make more games. The Wii U is too expensive and way too underpowered. It just isn’t worth buying when the PS4 isn’t much more. spideynut71 Um….you don’t need “in depth” analysis to see the obvious. The Wii has been DEAD, for about 2 years now. iamserious But yet they release a Wii mini in the states for $100? This has no backwards compatibility and no internet!?! Why would Nintendo want to bring this to the states when they are having a hell of a time trying to sell the new Wii U console?