A new image has surfaced on the web showing what split-screen co-op and the GamePad look like when playing Mario Kart 8. The GamePad appears to have minimal use as a second screen, with the ability to see scores at a glance and what looks to be a giant horn button. Of course, split-screen co-op hasn’t changed much from iteration to iteration, but it’s still nice to see Nintendo includes this when other game developers have decided that online only is the way to go. What do you think of the GamePad functionality revealed here? [via NeoGAF] local_offer mario kart 8 Nintendo wii u stars Further Reading Is Nintendo shafting Axiom Verge because of Dan Adelman? Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties, says Stardock CEO Earthlock backers will get Switch version if it ever happens Zelda: Breath of the Wild Deluxe guide for $48 on Amazon Nintendo shares up 20% since Switch launch What's your dumbest death in Breath of the Wild? Green Will it allow Pro controller support? I’ve made a pact to not buy any games unless its able to be 100% completed with pro controller :o. P.C. I don’t see (and wouldn’t understand) why NOT? Nintendo is pretty variable, more so with games like MK8, so the possibility is high my friend. But personally, I prefer the Gamepad for this one : ) Tecpedz94 That’s not a really smart “pact”….. David Trail What’s wrong with the game pad??? D.M.T The Battery is what’s wrong. Everything else is fine about the Gamepad David Trail I just leave mine plugged in Grayson Tech Same! I love my pro controller! Razo_E I do love my pro controller, but if I can use the nunchuck/wiimote, I’d rather use that. palomino blue I prefer just using a wiimote without the wheel adapter. Using the motion control is more fun than a thumbstick for a game like that. Ducked Its suppose to have both Pro controller and Classic controller support. SmashFinale I asked one of the reps when they did the E3 demo. It will support Pro Controller. Patrick Francis Gamepad should be a completely separate screen. And there should be up to 5 player split-screen because of it. (One on gamepad- 4 on TV with WiiMotes. Charlieblizz that’s what I was thinking, too. If you have the extra screen, why not use it? jjbredesen Because, then the game could not run in HD, they are having problems with 4 local multiplayer with 4 players, so 5 would create a lot of problems, wish it would happen, but there is no way it can be done. BIG Franky uuhhhhhhh….. they can do this.. .Sonic All Star Racing does this… jjbredesen But, it does not look as good as MK8, if MK8 looked like a N64 game, you could have 1000 players, but it does not, Nintendo wanted to make the game look great and run in 1080p, but they could not run more than 2 players in 1080p without the framerate dropping under 60fps, so they had do downscale it for 3 and 4 players. So if they where to add 5 players, we would have to either remove certain visuals, or go SD… Zorpix I understand the argument, but I feel like it’s all speculation. Even if they do have to drop the res from 1080 to 720, so what? Pikmin 3 drops resolution for splitscreen, and it still looks amazing jjbredesen Yeah, i am not saying going from 1080p to 720p is a bad thing, i could not care less, but i don’t think they could get MK8 to run in 720p 60fps with 5 users, it would drop under 60fps, unless they removed some stuff, i don’t care if they did, but they do. I just don’t think Wii U, could handle it, not in a negative way, but the game looks georgeous, and it looks like it runs fantastic to. It’s not pure speculation, i don’t have a source at this momement (looking for it) but they did have problems getting it to run in 1080p-60fps when they got to 3players, so they had to cut it, down, and they will cut it down even more if they go to 5 palyers. Rich Garriques mk8 is running in 1080p at 60fps yes wii u can handle it jjbredesen It does, but so far they have only gotten it to run 1080p @60 fps with 2 players, why do you think all the demos have only had 2 players?? I am not trying to make MK8 look bad, it will be a fantastic game, and i don’t care about resoulution etc. And i want to have of tv 5player gamepad play, but they want MK8 to run at 60fps in HD, and for them to get 4players to work at 60fps they have got to downscale to 720p or 900p, if they where to add another player+ the fact that everything has to be streamed to the gamepad, giving the gampad user an advantage over the others, it will make the framrate drop under 60fps, no question about it, so they would have to lower the resolution even more, and Nintendo will not do it, can you imagine what sites like IGN would say if MK8 ran at 540p in 5 player mode?? Not pure guessing, its logic, correct me if i am wrong, but i am 99,99% sure that this is true, i want 5 players on the gamepad, but it will not happen. Gentle Robot It’s a brand new, next-gen system and already you’re making apologies for its limitations? jjbredesen Dammit, i am not apologizing for it limitations, i am simply saying that Wii U can not run 5players at 1080P, PS4 and Xbone don’t run most multiplayer games at 1080p either, i am simply stating that it is not going to happen. Gentle Robot Who made you the expert? I don’t see why everyone’s hung up on framerate and resolution anyway. You never notice. I don’t read IGN. What kind of nut is going to shy away from a game based on resolution? jjbredesen I am not hung up in resolution and i don’t care if the game looks like a NES game, my only point is that we will not get of tv 5 player gamepad play, or whatever i should call it. I am one of the people on this site, that care the least about these kind of things, but i have to use terms such as framerate etc. to make a point, because simply saying Nintendo will not do it, would be worse, i am not an expert, but what i have stated is true, sorry for coming across like a anti Wii U, graphics freak, i am not, but Nintendo wants the game to run at 1080p @60 so they can’t add a 5th player. Gentle Robot Sorry I’m just disappointed by this and I really hope it isn’t true. The Wii U looks worse every time Nintendo releases a game that ignores the gamepad, and non-split screen multiplayer has been absent in every game since Nintendoland. jjbredesen No hard feelings 😉 I am disappointed to, i hope they make a game that shows of the gamepad, we do know that Zelda U will, but they need something more, not a Nintendoland 2, i think Metroid U could use it well, and a StarFox game could to. Rinslowe Yes @ 1080p and a constant 60fps is very unlikely… Rinslowe Dropping the resolution to 720p 60fps to allow for more players is potentially a non issue. And visually while playing with split screen local multiplayer would be barely noticeable during play. It would only affect an observer seeing all four splits and comparing with single or double player visuals. It wouldn’t detract from the experience at all. For this reason and a few others I’ll reserve final judgement on it until the concrete details of karts multiplayer are revealed. Also, have there been any definite details about the resolution so far? I am certain that the E3 demos were all running in 720p upscaled to 1080p and 60fps. If that is still the case, it would give more credibility to your comment… jjbredesen Yup, i don’t care if they drop the resolution, and since the game is running at 720p on the demo (2players) i think they will be able to get it to run at 1080p 2 players, and then 720p on 3 and 4 players, most important thing is that it runs at 60 fps. The game looks fantastic and the shaders are brilliant!! I think its a lot heavier than most us think. I know that they can’t get 5players running at 720p it will be a challenge to do it with 4. I am not a engineer, but i think its pretty safe to say, its not going to happen. Rinslowe “shaders are brilliant!!” Absolutely. I’m actually loving what Nintendo’s own take on HD development has brought them. It’s not about how realistic you can get a game, before realising the hardware potential in effective ways. I think they’ve started to hit their stride in this area. And have translated their visual mojo to Wii U well since Pikmin 3, I think. I’d still like to see how they achieve the muliplayer aspect for local play at least, before making a final judgement on it. But as you say, if 1080p is in fact their target resolution for 2 player then it just might be doable. If they’re struggling to support 4 players @ 720p then it’s a certain – no go. Online muliplayer is hopefully a fully realised experience and a must for Nintendo competitive titles like Kart, IMO. jjbredesen Yeah, i am really hoping it will be great, they did well with the multiplayer with MK7 so MK8 should have a lot better multiplayer with the Miiverse, MKTV etc. I think it will be great. Zorpix I guess we’ll see what happens. Maybe their friends at Retro can help 😛 jjbredesen You mean we will get a Cranky Mario Kart Tropical Freeze prime 😛 Zorpix in arwings Moreck MK8 is already rendering in 720; they can’t go any lower Levi Johansen no it is not, it’s 1080p jjbredesen Yup. Levi Johansen The 5th player would not even have 720 though, the gamepad is only 480 (for such a small screen, it’s not so bad). So it would not strain the system much more than 4 player – but then again, the gamepad is 60fps regardless of the TV (I think I’ve heard) jjbredesen No offense, but that was a really stupid comment…. The 5th player would be rendered in 720p, and then output at 420p, if you hook your Wii U up to an old non HD tv, and use an HDMI to RGB/SCART cable, it will be output at 420p, but that does not mean the game will run any better, as it is still rendered in 720p. Levi Johansen No offense, but that was retarded. The video for the gamepad is allways rendered at 480 because that’s the limit of the gamepad. This is not difficult to do, it is up the game developers, why would any developer render the video for the gamepad as anything other than 480, when this is the only thing it can display? Every single game that exists on Wii U is rendering a signal for the TV as 1080, 900, 720, 560 (or whatever else they want) and then they render a second signal for the gamepad as 480. They could make it less than 480, but they would have to be idiots to make it higher. jjbredesen If thats true i am an idiot, and take that comment back, but i still am 100% sure there will be no 5 player. Rinslowe Obviously you’re not an idiot. But there is a separate render made for the gamepad @ 480p afaik. In that respect it should be possible to have a fifth on local, if 4 players are easily doable in 720p. The main reason for me to not rush to a decision is their target framerate… jjbredesen Sometimes i am an idiot 😛 And yeah they should be able to do 5 players if thats true, but not sure if it would work at @60 not sure if they will do it, i really don’t think they will, its just a gut feeling that i have with Nintendo in general, it sounds to good to be true, it’s just something you know that Nintendo will not do. Levi Johansen I think I believe you, it would actually surprise me if we get 5 players. However, Nintendo would be fools not to make it – this would be a high selling point. Mario Kart is such a fun game to play locally, having 1 more player than all other consoles for a game that is exclusive and way better than all similar games would really make the Nintendo Wii U shine. jjbredesen Yeah i totaly agree on that, but sadly using the “it makes sense” arguement on Nintendo never works 😛 It would really make the game more fun to play, etc. and since Wii U supports 2 gamepads we could even go far enough to say 6 players could be possible, in theory if there are two 480p renders for the gamepad, it is one 960p render that would only use i little more resources than having 1 exstra on screen player, i dought it would run at 60 fps, but it would be possible, not going to happen though. Wonder how many players smash will support? Levi Johansen Super Smash should support a link between 3DS and Wii U, so who knows. Good thing is they would only link variables, like position of characters and such, not a video stream. So it would not be a strain on the video card on Wii U, the 3DS would render its own video alone. – Atleast I think this is how it would be, that is how online gaming works, after all. Of course, Smash Bros has allways had a view where all players are visible at all times, no split-screen, so having anything more than 6 players could get very messy and difficult to see. jjbredesen Yeah, more than 6 players would get messy, but when it comes to the 3DS-Wii U co-op there is a problem, they don’t have the same stages…. 3DS version has handheld stages and Wii U has console game stages, so unless they make some that are they same, or a story mode that is the same, i don’t think it will happen 🙁 Really sucks, but it is possible to do.. Moreck Both MK8 and Pikmin 3 render in 720 then upscale Levi Johansen MK8 is native 1080p, it has been confirmed. Don’t know about Pikmin 3 though Zorpix source? Levi Johansen so what? If you don’t want this to happen, then never invite more than 3 people to play. I will however, and I would prefer if the 5th player would not have to wait for someone to take a wee before he can play. darkcreap Problems, which problems? bobacdigital where has it discussed they are having problems with 4 player local multiplayer? D.M.T Your comment doesn’t really make sense because Sonic All Star Racing does this. 4 players on the TV and 1 on the Gamepad but to be honest, Sonic All Star Racing is one of the ugliest looking Wii U games out there so maybe you’re right. jjbredesen Yeah, it is ugly compared to MK8, i am 100% sure that they would have to either cut the resoulution, or remove certain visuals… Pikachief The graphics or resolution will take a hit no matter what at 4 screens being split because the game will have to be playing 4 times. Might as well do it a 5th time. Other games do it and Nintendo is very offline multiplayer friendly. I really, really, really hope they do 5 player Mario Kart as its one of the only Nintendo franchises that’ll benifit greatly, and work really well with a 5 player match. I doubt it though. jjbredesen Don’t get me wrong, i want it to happen to, but it’s not possible, Nintendo will not do it, you may quote me on this comment, as many times as you want, it will not happen. And it would give the gamepad player an advantage over the other players in battlemode, because nobody can see his screen, but everyone else can see theres….. Levi Johansen I see no problem with 1 player having an advantage – just give it to the youngest kid jjbredesen The problem is Nintendo cares about quaility and balance, so you will not see it happening, il cut my own d**** of it happens, i know that was a childish comment, but i could not find a more exstreme way to put it 😉 Levi Johansen I hope for your sake that you’re right, losing a dolly is probably the worst thing you can ever experience… Josiah Parsons Super Smash Bros? Rinslowe This is likely… Zorpix I thought it looked fine aqeqw Sonic runs whit around 20 fps when you play 5 players. Justin Carlson Sonic was also released over a year ago by a third party. I think Nintendo should be able to pull off 5 player split at 30fps even if it means lowering the eye candy a bit. Rinslowe Yep, this is a fair assumption I think. Not to mention, Sonic was not designed with the Wii U specifically in mind. Again it was likely ported from the 360 version. Mario Kart on the other hand is built from the ground up for Wii U. And from the house of Nintendo themselves. Better tools and experience with the hardware. It’s common sense that Kart will perform well above any of the early titles released… The Clockwork Being Wow that frame rate is terrible. Tim van Broekhoven What framerate? Of that image? … Levi Johansen 60 FPS Magnus Eriksson Typical you. Start your comment by disagreeing, then in the end agreeing. You have no integrity, you should be ashamed of yourself. Luciano Thank You,I was thinking that I was the only to reject that Sonic All Star Racing Transformed. That Sonic racing game is not good on Wii U,and worse in 3DS DrNope Nope. Other games already do it. Fred It works with Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed! FoxMulder900 When it comes to software engineering in general “there is no way it can be done” is almost always false. Javy G That and the Gamepad will get the unfair advantage of having everyone’s exact location by looking at the TV and other players wouldn’t be able pinpoint him/her. This comes into real effect when playing Battle Mode. jjbredesen Yeah, thats true, i simply would not work. Justin Carlson Yeah, for battle mode I could see it being more of an issue, but for racing I hope they include it even if it does means other players can’t see of of the screens. Christopher McNair True. They should have just turned off the gamepad and used all wii remotes instead of letting one person get a bonus. Since they will likely never have 2 gamepad support, this is really bad. It may be cool for online, but couch co-op will be annoying. 5th player would have been the best option. Sam Exactly what I thought. And we never. Ever. EVER say Wiimote. EVER. Gentle Robot Wiimote Sam FUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jjbredesen Ok i will not say it: http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/detail-page/WiiRemote1.jpg Sam It’s called a Wii Remote. jjbredesen Of course i know it called a Wiimote 😉 Sam FUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fred Shoot, even if they aren’t going to offer 5-player like they should (it works like a champ in sonic racing) at least implement the gamepad screen when playing 2 player so that you don’t have to do split screen! That’s idiotic to have 2 player splitscreen on a Wii U! Daniel Carvalho Nintendo is going for that “people don’t understand how great the Gamepad is, so we’ll not use it until people start buying Wii U” logic of theirs. Seriously, they should quit with that and start making full use of the Gamepad on their first party titles! The Clockwork Being I thought that would be the case too but wih the gamepad being used for a 5th player, the framerate would be lower and would make the game a pain to play That guy who hates Spike No one said it can’t. No one said it won’t in an update. Josiah Parsons Just like the E3 demo! I really love the horn, and really, a map would be distracting and take your eyes off the road, but the horn is totally impractical but tons of fun for online multiplayer! Thank you, Nintendo! Sydney Ultrasyd “a map would be distracting” … maybe the gamepad screen IS distracting, generally speaking ? P.C. The beauty and convenience that is Dual Screen Play…is, unfortunately not available on this famed title..? *sigh*..still worth a full priced purchase! darkcreap It surely will. It is just a sample. If Call of Duty could do it, surely Mario Kart will be able. BIG Franky I think there will be options…. my gut is telling me that two-player coop with gamepad player having a dedicated screen and the other player having the TV (much like Sonic Racing All Stars) and then the split screen will come into affect with 3 to 5 players… .we’ll see…. I like this as an option too…. I also think there might be a map option on the gamepad…. hopefully there is an option for 2-players to play split screen using the pro controller and remotes….. darkcreap In Sonic All Stars you could use the gamepad screen for one of the players independently? Yes, surely Mario Kart will do it. I mean, If Call of Duty allows dual screen play, which is a full 3D environment, then Mario Kart will be able for sure. It would be wonderful to have the gamepad for me. A dedicated screen that no one sees but me. I just don’t normally like playing shooters in consoles because the other guys see what you are doing. Using the gamepad, you can at least have two players play on independent screens, so they don’t see you. It is one thing that you cannot do with any other console unless you have online. Lusunup Giant horn button!?! I’m fully sold! Justin Carlson Thanks. That made me laugh. Lusunup making people laugh gives me joy so thank you 🙂 P.C. Who else pressed that Big Red Honking Horn expecting to hear a loud reply? Haha It sure is tempting! Zorpix WHY ARE THEY NOT USING THE GAMEPAD AS ANOTHER SCREEN SO YOU DONT HAVE TO SPLIT THE TV?! darkcreap I think it will have, but probably you will have to select it before the match. I mean, even Call of Duty permits dual screen play and it is a full 3D multiplayer environment trying to do realistic graphics. I think the WiiU will be more than able to move Mario Kart using both screens. What it won’t probably be possible is to swap screens dinamically in the middle of a match. Con Agreed Ducked I think they’re just showing you what the gamepad will look like when your playing on the TV. Gentle Robot And it looks useless Rinslowe Hardly. Gentle Robot What does the horn do? In MK7 the second screen showed: -Ranking, w/ items -Overhead view of the course (in motion) -Lap number -Coins MK8’s got: -Ranking, w/ items -Horn (???) -Motion control toggle (should be in options, never want to hit this during a race) -Mystery compass button The wiimote had the perfect control scheme. Why would you even bother with the gamepad? Rinslowe I think you’re reading to much into one screen shot here… 🙂 Gentle Robot You know it. Zorpix why not what they did with MK DS? Ducked You mean displaying the map? I have no idea then. Zorpix yeah, like showing a zoomed in map that shows items behind you and whatnot Arthur Jarret I’d love that, but I don’t like that it is forced in Sonic racing. On a normal TV, it is awesome when you have 2 player without split screen. On my beamer, I’d rather have splitscreen as it seems each player has it’s own screen anyway. Justin Carlson ^^^ THIS ^^^ Zorpix ^^^THAT^^^ Gentle Robot ^^^THE OTHER^^^ andrewjcole Notice the button to the right of the screen? Do you think that would do it? Zorpix nope. As mentioned below, that’s to switch between gyro and steering controls. Good guess though. I thought that at first, but then someone below pointed it out andrewjcole Awww… I really hope they announce this feature. I hated in games like Disney Infinity where you and your friend split the tv screen while the gamepad screen is being useless. Zorpix yup… its just wasted potential AWwriter Guys, guys. Chill out for just a sec LOL. See that picture of a gamepad with arrows showing a swap? Presumably, that will toggle between split screen and gamepad. No where does it say this is the onky way to do it. Of course it can. In any case, seeing that Wii wheel makes me laugh. I had four at one time and gave them all away. I preferred Gamecube controllers to be honest, the motion thing was just silly to me and wasn’t fun unless a group of you were doing it. That said, I’ll give it a try this time and see if it improves. The one option more I would have liked to see was split-screen using 3D allowing one user to see the image as a fully theirs and the other user sees it as his image. I am not a big 3d person at all but that sounds like the best of both worlds, even if the image itself wasn’t in 3D. readypembroke It won’t. It is to swap between the Analog Stick and the motion controls like the Wii Remote for steering. JB That’s what I gathered from the picture. Besides, it would seem pretty jarring to jump out of split screen in the middle of a race. I’d imagine if there is a asynchronous function for multiplayer Karting, it would have to be selected before the match. Sydney Ultrasyd I’m just like you, I can’t play with those wheels, not precise enough (for me, but some do very well with it). The good thing is that’s it’s funnier and easier to play like that for my wife and my son ! JB Not that they worked any better, but whatever happened to the good ‘ol days when they made actual steering wheel accessories with the pedals and all? 🙂 Seth Callahan They have some pretty hardcore options on Xbone and PS4…. Sydney Ultrasyd The thing is that, with such a Wii wheel, there is not attachment at the center. You can laugh, but I have a inflatable Kart for Wii, and it changes things, in a good direction 😀 OK, the inflatable kart has a hole already, but having that damn wheel FIXED somewhere helps a bit DrNope I prefer the steering wheel. It’s interesting to me that motion control Mario Kart seems so natural to some people and so foreign to others. It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with gaming experience, since I know hardcore and casual gamers that both love and hate the wheel. To each their own. I like that Nintendo gives us so many control options. Seth Callahan I’m guessing that button with arrows changes between stick and motion control. Still hoping for the option for gamepad multiplayer, but am not worried about it. When’s the last time Nintendo messed up Mario Kart? cthreep I bet that image of the gamepad with arrows showing a swap is to allow the user to choose between using the gamepad as a steering wheel or using the buttons and analog sticks. TULFich I like the option of, useng the TV screen, I mean not always you would like to play on a smaller screen, but it could be an option to expand the 4P experiece to a 5P experiece, and this could apply to online MP, at least with two players. Also I like how vertical splitscreen works out, cuz you actually go on a more linear gameplay so no need to watch your flanks really. Elitepwnsface Did not know people still played split screen. David Trail I do. PS4 and Xbone should have more split screen games imo! D.M.T That’s because you don’t play games with real friends in the same room. You only play with strangers online Elitepwnsface Clean but not true. I play with friends/strangers online. Sydney Ultrasyd 5 players please, and the possibility to play on the Gamepad as a separate screen, else it’s useless and I will end up buying a pro controller – I really hate gyroscopic controls Troy PLEASE NO STEERING WHEEL WIIMOTE!!! Pretty Please Nintendo?? 🙁 Gentle Robot Why would you want to discard an optional control scheme? Troy Its not that I really want to discard it, but after the 2nd version of the Wii came out (No GameCube ports), I really hated Mario Kart with any of the “Wii” controls. I didn’t like Steering wheel, Wii Mote & Nunchuck, or the classic controller. So I really hope I can play this with a regular controller, or with the gamepad as a regular controller and not a steering wheel Gentle Robot This guy said they let you use the analog stick http://wiiudaily.com/2014/03/mario-kart-8-gamepad/#comment-1268741569 Miguel Ferreira This is just an example of the splitting options. There are several more, that’s FOR SURE! It’s impossible to judge all the options in just one image. themizarkshow I’m hoping that this is the gamepad in tilt-to-steer mode, and that there are also modes where you can have the screen on there and drive with normal controls. Seth Callahan I would like an option. Can’t stand it on Sonic Racing when we all have to wait for the gamepad player to finish but can’t see her drive. David Trail Mario Kart 8 > Every Xbone and PS4 game out this whole entire year!!!!!!! ZeldaFan83 I know they showed the gamepad screen being able to change to a map view as well as a camera view to see what’s behind you, but that was quite some time ago and I believe the horn also activates the boost but I could be wrong. Daniel Schwarz Yes to the map, I don’t recall ever seeing a rear view, but possibly, and no to the horn activating a boost. I believe it’s just a horn. ZeldaFan83 I wonder what the purpose of the horn is and why it takes up half of the GamePad screen. Daniel Schwarz Honestly, I think they just couldn’t think of something better to do with the screen, at least for the purposes of the demo. Maybe we’ll get something better in the final product. David Trail I’m going to have the game pad with the map. Everyone else is going to have pro controllers lol! ZeldaFan83 You would think that Mario Kart would offer more GamePad functions than just a map, horn, off TV play and racing scores. Con Its a racing game. What else can they add to the gamepad function? Daniel Schwarz A “rear view” for using items and seeing who’s behind you. Con Ooh that is smart, didn’t even think of that. Now thats something they need to add on the gamepad. Who do we talk to about this?? Daniel Schwarz Give Reggie a call 🙂 Con I’ll leave a message on his answering machine ZeldaFan83 I honestly don’t know but what I do know is they need to start taking more advantage of the GamePad to show gamers why the Wii U is unique and how it will enhance games over a traditional controller. Iwata has even gone on record saying that they haven’t been taking advantage of the GamePad as much as they want and need to. DKC Tropical Freeze didn’t use it at all except for off TV play. Mario Kart is one of their biggest selling games, Mario Kart Wii sold 34 million freaking copies so I hope this one does very well and increases Wii U sales. steveb944 Please let there be dual screen play. I HATE split screening when I own a Wii U! David Trail I love split screen. DrNope Thank you Nintendo for delivering us from split screen. Split screen sucks. Gamer Mania Call of Duty managed to let you play split screen by Moving the Player on the Gamepad to their Gamepad screen and letting the other player use the TV…. so why not this? Makes no sense Nintendo. Zhifu You’ve played it already? Con Would of been better if instead of a useless horn the button was for punching near by drivers away, like they did I. MARIO KART DOUBLE DASH. D.M.T You people need to chill the fuck out. This is just a picture. I’m pretty sure there’s more options Grayson Tech https://www.kickstarter.com/pr… I know this is off-topic but PLEASE support this cause. Indie game development will come to the Wii U it looks amazing. At least repost this once on Disquis, PLEASE. DrNope If they don’t include dual screen play I’m not buying it. David Trail ??? DrNope What is hard to understand? David Trail Not buy Mario Kart 8. Do not compute! DrNope I already own Mario Kart for Gamecube and Wii. If I’m going to have to keep playing split screen, then I might as well just keep playing those. I’d rather save my money for Smash Bros. However, I seriously doubt that Nintendo would be so stupid to leave this feature out of one of their biggest titles. I’m expecting to pick it up in May. I bought the Wii U primarily for multiplayer games, to play games with my wife and daughter. Using the gamepad as the second screen is one of my favorite features of the Wii U, and a big reason why, for me at least, it easily beats the PS4 and XBOX in terms of fun. LEGO Marvel co-op is a thousand times better without split screen. David Trail Do not compute DrNope It is possible to own a Nintendo system and yet not buy every single iteration of Mario Kart that they throw at us, David Trail Do not compute… Mr Ninty i know what you are saying, and i agree on the part of that it should be dual-screen. but you should be happy in todays world that there still games being made that are good and have a splitcreen option DrNope Why? Why do I have to be thankful for split screen? I’ve hated split screen since Goldeneye. Of course it’s been a necessity in this industry, and was often the only way to play games at the same time. We all put up with it. Still, I was thrilled when I realized that the Wii U can avoid split screen for most two player co-op. I think that this one feature makes the gamepad worth the expense. I said that if I chose not to buy Mario Kart 8, I’d be moving that money over to Super Smash Bros. At $50/60 a pop, I can’t afford every game that I want. I have to try and guess which game I’m actually going to get the most enjoyment out of. If Mario Kart is split screen multiplayer only (and again, I doubt that it will be), then I’m going with Smash. I didn’t say I was going to sell my Wii U and buy Titanfall. It’s not like I wouldn’t love to own both. If you want to send me $60 I’ll gladly pick them both up, split screen or not. ;P Andrew St. Clair Yep. The very reason I buy a new Mario Kart game is for the dual screen. That’s what I do it for. Yep. Mmm Hmmm. Exactly. I buy them for no other reason. No other reason at all. I bought the SNES one for dual screen. Same with the 64, gamecube and Wii. I bought them for their dual screen, and for no other reason. Yep. That’s why we all buy Mario Kart games. For their dual screen, You’d be stupid to buy them for any other reason. If you didn’t buy them for their dual screen, you’re an idiot. A complete idiot. Why, you’d be so idiotic that the idiots would think you were an idiot. David Trail Just got me thinking… I would love the DS Mario Kart 8 on Wii U as they are going to be realising DS and GBA games. That was one of my favourites. Daniel Schwarz So I played the demo of this game at Best Buy during E3 last year. The big button in the middle is a horn (pretty useless). On the left, it is showing the current rankings of every player in-race and the items they are currently holding. On the top right of the screen is an option to toggle between using gyro controls and the thumb stick to turn. If I remember correctly, and this is the only thing I’m not sure of, the bottom right of the screen changes the screen to show a live map of the race and where everyone currently is on the track. Shagrath1983 You want to talk about the possibilities of the game pad well here it is, 5 players with the 5th on the gamepad, Sega did it and so will you. Fred I’m not convinced that they will, but they certainly should disqus_Dk6KM2972y uh with the pad… does it motion move like the wii mote or do you have to use the joysticks? Nintenjoe82 I’m sure both will be available disqus_Dk6KM2972y hopefully haha would be cool to motion move the pad like a steering wheeel like the wiimote does Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog Hey Not Bad Nintenjoe82 Split screen should definitely be horizontal for 2 player MK but ideally it would be one on TV one on gamepad! I’ll be shocked if they can’t make it 5-player. There had better be wii classic controller support to go with all the other options! person The gamepad picture seems to imply that you can use it as a steering wheel, btw, what would the horn be for? Ducked The only game that properly uses the gamepad made by Nintendo is Wind Waker HD. Every other game only uses it for splitscreen co-op, and some not even that. Nintendo made the gamepad pointless. Sure it has some features, but when it comes to the #1 thing, playing games. It’s only good for local multiplayer. Snake Eater Can’t wait for it, with the Koopalings, and the with awesome graphics it is going to be a great game. gerb1977 Maybe I’m making this up, but I thought it was stated that the gamepad would have announcers and additional replay footage different camera angles, etc on it, to make it into a Televised race type experience. Maybe I just read someone post that and forgot where it came from. Kuromad I am wondering about the two buttons you see. The top one seems to activate the motion controls on the gamepad, allowing you to steer it like the Wii Wheel. But the bottom one seems a mystery. ZyroXZ2 People are so fickle… “Nintendo needs to ditch the Gamepad, it’s a gimmick, it’s only good for off-TV play” *released DKC:TF without Gamepad features, only off-TV play* “Nintendo fails, even they don’t know how to use the Gamepad!” :/ Gentle Robot There should have been an option at the very least. Mirroring, HUD controls, separate screen for two-player, SOMETHING. Instead the puzzle pieces, coins and banana count are hidden. It was a lazy job, and I’m holding a big empty screen because the wiimote controls suck and I didn’t shell out $40 for another controller. InterTreble I’m sorry for haters and closed-minded $ony/M$ fanboys. You are missing THIS. oontz Still images of wiiu games don’t do them justice… they need some anti aliasing big time. Jaggie overload! However in motion… beautiful! InterTreble Right. oontz Is that sarcasm or are you agreeing with me? InterTreble Why sarcasm? I agree. oontz I had to ask because it could have been either or… But now I am in awe… we agree on something. This is the start of a new chapter, I can feel it… in my heart. Daniel Gonzalez A miracle has happened! http://25.media.tumblr.com/94677fbc1b7e3127d26c868d9f955536/tumblr_mydgygL4Fu1sg0lnxo1_500.gif InterTreble If you don’t point the finger as you always do, saying you own the truth and everybody else is stupid, for me you can also say “the sky is pink” and we can start a civil talk about. Otherwise if you insist on a member war (“It’s always amusing reading your posts…”, and so on) believe me, you can just continue by yourself. In my heart it can be a new chapter. Depends on which register you intend to adopt. And I will reply accordingly, I promise, without any reference to the past. oontz Well I never claim to OWN the truth. I just like to understand what peoples reasons are for saying things they say. That’s why I question some of your posts because I really do want to know how you came to those conclusions. You needn’t take it as member war… I ask the same hard questions to many posters on here. Just as I would expect people to do to me when I post things. You should never take things too seriously, especially with regards to online message boards. InterTreble “You should never take things too seriously, especially with regards to online message boards.” Perhaps this is what you and Gonzales do not do… However, I’m sure you are a guy who can be talked to, at the end. Gonzales is hopeless. oontz Then you have been mistaken as I don’t take this site seriously, in the sense of what I consider serious for that matter. I find joy in discussing things about video games and I find enjoy in seeking out debatable comments or opinions, hence the reason I reply to your posts. But serious? No, there are a lot more serious things for me to ponder in my life that have nothing to do with an online message board. InterTreble We agree, again. I NEVER took seriously your comments, they had a bad tone, that’s all. And it was the reason why I replied. But again, no problem at all. You explained your position, and it’s fair for me. From now on, just try not to point the finger also to other users as you did with me, otherwise the replies you will get will be always the same And they maybe take that seriously, not like me! 😉 Daniel Gonzalez Wow. No usual retort? This calls for celebration. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8cvdjtIF71qzq8pqo1_r1_500.gif InterTreble This is the demonstration you don’t worth living. All the days seaching images and ways to offend people. What a poor life, mr Wrong. Enjoy yourself, enjoy! Yo have never done. Enjoy. (So much stupidity in a single fat man… unbelieveble…) Daniel Gonzalez “This is the demonstration you aren’t worth living. All the days searching images and ways to offend people. What a poor life, Mr Wrong. Enjoy yourself… enjoy! You are never done. Enjoy. So much stupidity in a single fat man…unbelieveable….” There you go my friend. Decided to help you out a little. For the record, you should learn to grow a sense of humor and smile a little. You’re a bit uptight. ;P InterTreble LOL! There is a plethora of users here who do know who is uptight… Instead of quoting, offending, talking nosense, etc. all the day, play games, take a girlfriend or a boyfriend, have a happier life. Stop trolling and giving demonstration, again, of your uselessness in this world. I won’t reply your silly comment. Because you will reply in a silly way, quoting, offending, talking nosense… 😉 Donaald Nice shading! clownshoes1982 this is old news. I played this game at Best Buy last year and saw this. Will W If you got to play the Demo they had last Summer (and were lucky enough to use the G-Pad), you’d know that Yes, the button is a horn– It’s also annoying. All I will say is: This isn’t a good demonstration of how the G-Pad could be used, but at this point, we still don’t know all of it’s functions…. great deku tree guys you can’t say for sure that there’s not 5-player or at the least off-tv play just from one picture. if CoD ghosts can manage multiplayer with off-tv play for the gamepad then I’m sure that MK8 can. maybe not manage 5 player but still at least manage off tv play. I’m sure there’ll be several ways to use the gamepad for example as a rear view mirror or something (in single player only though, that’d be an advantage for the gamepad player in multiplayer) we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. Javy G No motion for me this time, I’m going all Pro. David Trail The Game Pad is not just a motion controller. Javy G I hope not. My friends and I didn’t find the the Motion controls all that comfortable as using the Numchuck controls. Now that I’m using my ProController more with DKTF, NES remix, and Super Metroid, it has become more comfortable. Still the Gamepad is not bad to game on for my off-screen or games that require it but if could avoid getting cramps, I will. Zakariyya Al-Quran The Gamepad should be a map and the tv is only the racers who all use remotes up to four player five player could be like animal crossing in Nintendo land or four p[layers racing and the gamepad sabatgoes them all Roman If that’s all the gamepad screen has to offer (including off tv play) I will be disappointed. I was really hoping for some creative or cool uses of the second screen, like a rearview mirror (Red shell in-coming!!). Christopher McNair Wow, “minimal” gampad use. Rinslowe It’s likely that this is just one of the multiplayer options available. It could still be very possible that the gamepad is used as a separate screen. And while local multiplayer is going to be well enjoyed in my house, online multiplayer is a must here as well… Gentle Robot I really hope you are right. Rinslowe So do I… 🙂 I’m certain though from what has been shown so far, that kart is going to be pretty slick regardless. oontz “online multiplayer is a must” Agreed lonewolf88 people are getting mad why? it will most likely be a choice anyways when I play games with friends and were only playing 2 players my friends sometimes wish they didn’t have to look down the whole time while playing the game and want to look at the t.v and the gamepad can’t show off the full experience and beauty of this game stop whining. Gentle Robot So what’s wrong with having the choice? I am glad that your personal experience differs from mine, and I welcome it. I don’t see how your preference of split screen is more or less valid than my preference of two screen play, so there should be an option. I would prefer more options in console games. You can barely change the button configuration any more. lonewolf88 like I said there will most likely be a choice anyways which means there will most likely be a option for both, but whining about it is just idiotic. JJ This is just stupid. Nintendo had a chance to promote the gamepad with a flagship game – something they keep saying they need to do – and it does this? Who is in charge? Is it stupidity on purpose? Is it match-fixing? Seriously though I personally think the Wii U should have been designed to cope with 6 player (yes 6 player) local multiplayer mariokart. 4 on screen. Scalable to 2 gamepads. Do this same with a new IP akin to Perfect Dark. That way when people say – “so what does this do different”, you can actually show them something new to do locally and whip up word of mouth interest, plus encourage friends to buy the console and bring their pad with them. So what if it cuts to 30fps and lowers the resolution, gameplay is king, splitscreens are tiny so resolution matters less, and this would have sold buckets of consoles. If it can’t do this – let alone 5 player – then Nintendo didn’t design the game or Wii U right. Period. A console of great ideas but missed opportunities? Seems to be. ZeldaFan83 I wonder how glorious this game will look on a 65″ 4K TV… Old School Show some damn battle pictures/trailers for once! Nintendo you are always so clueless. The game is coming out in a few months but your not doing any real marketing/advertising?!? Moreck A lot of people seem to think that MK8 is rendering in 1080P. It’s rendering in 720 and upscaling, just like Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D World, and DKC TF. The only disc-based game for WiiU rendering in true 1080P is Zelda Wind Waker. Shashwat Pant so??? Moreck So, several users posting on this comment thread have referred to MK8 (and others I mentioned) as being rendered in 1080P. They felt it important enough to debate it, so I felt it was important enough to provide a correction. 🙂 Shashwat Pant well nintendo never said anything about resolution so its pretty naive on our part to come to conclusion whether its 720 or 1080. Plus as far as it looks good I couldn’t care much about resolution. Consoles are laid back gaming device compared to PC so anything above 720p is practically indistinguishable unless you are viewing up close. Also unless you own a huge 60+” monitor with 1080 it won’t be any different. I’d wager for more effects @ 720 and good gameplay than cribbing pointlessly for resolution only. oontz “Also unless you own a huge 60+” monitor with 1080 it won’t be any different.” Actually on any display over 32″ (at the correct viewing distance) there is a visible difference between native 720p and native 1080p sources. Xboxfan69 The Wii U is DOOMED Chips N So, did anyone realize yet that this is the exact same image used many, MANY moons ago in a Nintendo Direct when they debut the game? Unless I’m missing this “new image” totally… oontz “The GamePad appears to have minimal use as a second screen” Makes me sad. Matski Why not have a map on the gamepad? seems strange that they wouldn’t think of that but perhaps this isn’t really a final image of how it will look. oontz A mini map with little characters like the original SNES version would be great. Just like the bottom half on the gamepad… http://romhustler.net/img/screenshots/snes/ingame/51b09812b006c.jpg C4 It does 😉 . Found this pic in another GAF thread, it allows for the map, and also displays the drivers position and current item like on the portable MKs (MK8 is on the left) which can be useful. As one guy below mentioned you can probbaly switch between the 2 or 3 modes using a button or touchscreen. http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/31/1375456050-mariokart-second-screen-use.jpg C4 Also doesn’t some previous MKs use a horn like sound when you have no items and press the item button? Matski Awesome!!! OK its not as if I needed any more convincing, I am all of this game when its out!!!! Erik Mozolik Not buying it. I bet there’s more, we’re just not seeing it yet.