Nov 22nd, 2013

Wii U sales

A new forecast for Wii U sales is being released on December 3rd, lowering the lifetime sales of the console to 25 million. This puts the console on par with the GameCube, which sold 22 million units during its life time. That’s a far cry from the 100 million units saw by the Wii and when asked why the forecast for the Wii U was lowered, analyst David Cole stated he believes Nintendo is carving a new niche, away from what the Wii offered.

“I think Nintendo is carving out a different audience. I think that being said it is the right strategy. The audience they are going after is not the ones that Sony and Microsoft are going after. Right now they need to go after Nintendo fans first. They should have done that last year but better late than never. So in answer to your question it is the right approach but really Nintendo now is just trying to do as well as the GameCube so they have a base to sell first party software.”

It’s nice to see someone talking with some sense when it comes to analyzing the Wii U, even if the news of lowered sales is considered negative. It’s true Nintendo is going after Nintendo fans first and foremost, as this is Nintendo’s first true HD console while both Microsoft and Sony had the previous generation to perfect HD gaming.

What do you think of this new analysis?

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  • D.M.T

    Never listen to game “analysts”. Just read the article if you want, laugh it off and keep it moving.

  • Jeffrey Debris

    I agree with this. We need to be realistic about the numbers, even though we all want Nintendo to succeed (assuming people visiting this site are Nintendo fans).

    I still want Nintendo to beat those numbers though and I’ve given them as much support as I can by not only buying 1st party software, but 3rd party software as well, instead of on my Xbox 360.

    What I find truly astonishing however is that, now the PS4 and XOne are released no general gaming site is even considering the Wii U to be next-gen. That kinda makes me sad and wish that Nintendo would stop being so stubborn and join the race for performance…

    • erich80

      But… If you look closely at the profile of Nintendo gamers, you’ll see that most of them (most of us, I’m a huge Nintendo fan) buys the hardware primarily because of the Nintendo IPs. I also regularly buy 3rd party titles, but the main reason I have Nintendo hardware is really the access to the iconic franchises own and developed by Nintendo.

      Would it hurt if the Wii U had more horsepower? No. Not at all. Because more horsepower does not mean only better graphics – which are an add-on, in the end – but better physics, better AI, longer and more complex games. But could more horsepower attract 3rd party developers to Wii U? I highly doubt since the niche in which Nintendo is in now – truth be told, by a 3rd party marketing standpoint, to release high-cost, “AAA” games on Wii U or on whatever home console from Nintendo is risky and not well worth.

      • D.M.T

        So many things wrong with your comment but you do make some great points.

        • erich80

          Sure, that’s how my perspective is. If you want, you’d be welcome to point out which are the statements I made that you don’t agree with so that we can think together and have a nice discussion. πŸ™‚

          • Magnus Eriksson

            You do a good job in your analytics. But you will find criticism here just because you are balanced and not degrading yourself to fanboy cheerishes.

          • D.M.T

            I wasn’t in the mood to argue but ok whatever. What I don’t agree with is how most Nintendo fans buy Nintendo consoles only for Nintendo games because those same people complain when Nintendo consoles get no 3rd party support. Of course it doesn’t get 3rd party support because you dont buy 3rd party games on Nintendo systems, you’re to blame. I’m not saying you don’t buy 3rd party games, I’m saying most don’t.

            I agree with everything else you said.

          • erich80

            OK, sorry about that. About the lack of 3rd party support… It is such a pity, but at least in my case, I learned how to live with that, and probably most of the other fans did the same. It would be perfect if we could get both Nintendo 1st/2nd parties as well as 3rd party titles for only one specific home console, but… That will hardly happen to Wii U…

          • BGhp



          • Magnus Eriksson

            Right now thats just a poor excuse. The reason are that people are not buying the WiiU, not that its owners only buy Nintendo games.

          • Bruno

            It’s a vicious cycle. Nintendo started it with the Wii. I’ve always owned nintendo and sony consoles. My first console ever was a nes 8bits when I was justa toddler (my parents used to play, as I watched), then I’ve jumped the Super Nes, for the Sega Genesis. After that, it was nintendo and sony all the way. PS1 and N64, PS2 and GC, PS3 and the Wii. With the Wii being the weakest of the last gen, and focused on a different kind of audience, most people skipped 3rd party titles for it. Most people owned a PS4 or an Xbox360 AND a Wii. People played 1st party titles on their Wii and those 3rd parties AAA titles on their second console. I did it. With that being said, Wii has sold a lot, it sold more than the other two, but the crushing big part of those numbers never played an AAA 3rd party title on their Wii, mainly because they looked better on the other consoles or because they only played those family/group casual games, by releasing the Wii U on the same position filled by the Wii (a in-between gen console) Nintendo has perpetuated the cycle. People will play triple A 3rd party games on more powerful consoles and use their Wii U to play 1st party iconic games. This will drive 3rd parties from the Wii U (EA has done it already, they say it’s not worth the investment). So, Nintendo has managed to drive away one of the biggest AAA titles publisher from their main console, the sales aren’t looking good, Nintendo is lucky that their portable market is huge and amazing.

            Im contemplating buying the Wii U, but the PS4 too, unfortunately that’s what I’ll have to do to play my favourite titles like Fifa, Battlefield and the iconic games from my childhood, like Mario, Zelda and the likes of it. I love nintendo, but it’s ragesome to see them failing to unite both hardcore gaming and casual gaming twice in a row.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I here you, and agree. Its kind of funny to see that the fans who have been with Nintendo since the beginning (got my NES in mid-80’s) are way more balanced and able to see the flaws in their new strategies than many of those who became fans later.

          • BGhp

            Didn’t I not say its one of the reasons, if Nintendo fans are all like “”fuck EA who needs them we are not buying any of there games because they are a bitch I only buy Nintendo games for Nintendo consoles, which they are doing right now, or all this bad news come out about the Wii U and we are like “” who cares I love my Wii U” and we are not acknowledging that their is a problem then things will look grim for Wii U.

            To help Nintendo we need to give them ‘real talk’ feed back. But seem like nobody wants to do that and this is why I am angry.

            I admire how the Xbox fans do way with the DRM problem. How come we Nintendo can’t fix the Wii U’s problems the same way.
            Like online for the Wii U, is nobody complaining about that?, I know the online could be way better!!!!! We are not suppose to take this shit.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Comes from a guy who have never been able to do one right prediction on this page. Remember what you told me when I stated the excact same thing as in this article six-eight months ago?

          • D.M.T

            If that’s how you feel then fine, I couldn’t care less Magnus but you have yet to make a right prediction too. When you said the same thing 6/8 months ago i told you it was too soon to judge and I was right, 6/8 months later and i still don’t agree 100% with everyone’s predictions. Stop making silly predictions and just enjoy your Wii U.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I am enjoying my Wii U. But Im also conserned with its future.

          • D.M.T

            I think you are too concerned about its future and that’s unnecessary. Let me explain. Wii U’s target audience is different than PS4’s and Xbox One’s target audience. Wii U’s audience are those who like fun and challenging games, PS4 and Xbox One’s audience are those who like violent games with realistic graphics.In other words, Wii U is not in direct competition with PS4 and XBO because the audience is different. PS4 and XBO won’t be able to steal gamers from Nintendo unless those gamers are sick of Nintendo’s family friendly games. Think about all the games that are coming for Wii U next year and you’ll see that you shouldn’t be concerned. It’s not possible for the Wii U to be in a worse situation in 2014, things can only get better for the Wii U in 2014.

          • Ace J

            wrong. ps4 and xbox one does not target audiences that only like violent games. just like the wii u doesn’t target a “kiddy” audience. man i hate these stereotypes

          • Magnus Eriksson

            But Nintendo are targeting families, childrens, young couples etc. Aswell as the fans of their products. I play WiiU with my kids, my girlfriend and when we have friends over for coffee or a beer. Its great for socializing. PS and XB are more introvert in a way. Nintendo is not just on the TV but the whole livingroom.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Doesn’t Mario jump on enemies? Or Link sword slashing bad guys? Nope, no violence there. Let’s not even get into Pokemon, that one is too easy. Even family friendly games tend to be just as violent, in their own way. πŸ˜›

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Violent yes, but in a different way. I wouldnt sit down and play Battlefield with my parents-in-law, or the Last of Us with my kids. But Mario, Zelda, Nintendoland are different stories. I dont think the fans should be ashamed of Nintendo as a mainly children-family console. Dont you agree?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Depends on the person. Personally, I don’t have kids, so a family-children console won’t do it for me. Lol.

            Different or not, it’s still violence. Only difference is, there’s no realism in it. Majority of games promote violence no matter how you look at it. That’s human nature for you. πŸ˜›

          • Magnus Eriksson

            True. But how did we land on the question of violence? I would not let my youngest daughter play ZombiU just because she can jump on Goombas in Mario or play shooters in NintendoLand. Theres a quite clear difference between those games, even if they are “violent” in their own ways.

            Edit: Yes I can see why a family oriented console might not be attractive to everyone. Me myself is going to pick up a PS3 at next chance just to play those things I want to play by myself (the introvert stuff)

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            “True. But how did we land on the question of violence?”

            I like to start up a debate. Can’t help it. πŸ˜›

          • Magnus Eriksson

            I know, me too. Was just curious how we got there. Anyway, yes, videgames are in general centered around violence in some sense. Games that avoids this tends to be really bad and boring (with exception for different sport games and the like).

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Same here, dude. I like games that appeal to my interests. It has nothing to do with being violent or kiddyish. Games are games to me. Last I heard, there is no violent genre. Lol.

          • Rob

            I agree with you, DMT. I made this point as well. Sony and Xbox fans just want good graphics and “bling”, they do not want a good adventure type of game. That of course may not be true for ALL of them, but it’s safe to say for most.

          • BGhp

            Your just asking for the Wii U to fail

          • BGhp

            If the Wii U is doing good we would be hearing about.

            If a good perdition came out we wouldn’t be saying the they are wrong.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Bad logic there. Life is not a walk on roses. Things are not untrue just because you dont want them to be.

          • BGhp

            Nobody is talking about the Wii U accept us!!!! That’s not a good thing. The Wii U is not popular weather you like or not that’s the truth.

          • Josiah Parsons

            Actually, walking on roses really hurts…

      • Simon Stevens

        You make excellent points, the third party exclusives we get however, usually tend to be japanese and do really really well πŸ™‚

      • QuizmasterBos

        Exactly, they didn’t want or need a lot of third party support for the Wii either and that ended up selling really well. I don’t think that reasoning makes the system sell only 25 million systems.

        If the Wii U becomes a good buy for parents and grandparents around the world, then the Wii U can match its predecessor. Nintendo is beginning to supply the games, all they need is advertisements and a good marketing strategy and the Wii U can sell just as well.

        Nintendo is merely not utilizing the Wii U’s potential.

        • RockieOllie

          I don’t think Nintendo should narrow it’s user base ever by excluding 3rd party. 3rd party is what helps draws in the consumers. If people see that Nintendo provides more than just 1st party they would be more inclined to buy one. 3rd party is what made the SNES a beast.

          Nintendo shouldn’t always rely on first party, nor should they ever ignore 3rd party at any point in their lives

          • QuizmasterBos

            Of course, I’m not saying Nintendo shouldn’t get better third-party support, but I am not saying that the only reason the Wii U would only have 25 Million lifetime sales is BECAUSE of that. That would directly contradict the sales of the Wii, which had almost NO third-party support and yet sold over 100 million units.

            Plus, pulling in more developers is part of that ” unutilized potential” I was talking about in my previous post as well.

          • RockieOllie

            Easy there sir, the Wii had 3rd party support. Granted it wasn’t the AAA titles like Mass Effect, Borderlands and Skyrim. The Wii did get titles like CoD, Rayman and a butt ton of party/mini-game collection games.

            Nintendo isn’t going to reach SNES level again unless it gets those AAA 3rd titles again.

        • Kriskura

          I think that yes, we, Nintendo fans are surely going to keep Nintendo alive, but that’s not forcefully the case of everyone, mostly casual gamers/non-gamers (and let’s be honnest, they are surely the great majority of persons who bought a wii) which took the wii because of it’s moving feature which was totally new, innovative and accessible, but not only in a gaming perspective.

          Moving behind your tv,see that what you do with a remote
          was reproduced on your tv to play was something which felt impressive even for the persons which aren’t in video-games at all and felt really amusing.
          Majority of these persons weren’t interested in the kind of game that we, Nintendo fans, like.
          And THAT’s why the wii didn’t need a lot or third -party support to work by itself. But now that it (moving feature) become banalized (and is also used by others company), these people are less interested in that, since it doesn’t feel impressive at all anymore. And I personally doubt that a tactil pad feel as impressive for them as it was the case with moving feature, since tactil technology is banalized since a long time now.

          So now, it’s more up to gamers to make a difference. It depends in which kind of games, series of games people which play video games are focused, really interested in and fans of, or the idea they have about this or this company or about what make a “good hardware” for them.
          And sadly, yeah, it also pass by third-party.
          Don’t forget that there is different types of “gamers”, there’s not only persons which are interested in everything or Nintendo games like most of us, and sadly, we are not forcefully the majority.

      • NintendoNoob

        I honestly want Nintendo to stick with the Wii U gamepad controller, it’s my favorite controller so far and would be great for Nintendos new console because the technology would get so good that the new console could render the gamepad screen with little hinder to performance. Nintendo needs to listen to their fans more for stuff to get a better product

        • Rob

          Agreed. I think they did an awesome job with the gamepad.

        • BGhp

          I love the gamepad

      • Archiq09

        I know Gears of War creator like nintendo but he wait a “next-gen console” (if you understand) for make exclusives for nintendo…

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Yeah, I wrote the excactly same thing here six months ago. Back then people wanted to string me up in the streets, labelling me troll, telling me I deserved to die and that I was a bad father. Basically everything I said six-eight months ago have proven to be correct.

    • D.M.T

      I understand how you feel but Nintendo should not, I repeat should NOT participate in this silly console war that Microsoft and Sony have. Why would anyone want 3 identical consoles? Nintendo already tried to compete with Sony and Microsoft once when they released the GameCube and didn’t go really well. Nintendo NEEDS to be different to survive. Nintendo will not survive if they they try to be like them.

      It doesn’t matter how powerful Nintendo consoles are, 3rd parties will still ignore Nintendo gamers because the gaming industry hates Nintendo. This is not a conspiracy theory, it’s just the truth.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Of course its a conspiracy theory. Its utterly ridiculous to explain the lack of support with a referring to hate. Hate is not a part of the equation, money is. Its not only ridiculous, its childish.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Very true, and always has been. People I think get lost in their passion of their own words and look too deep into things, but I digress. I think we all want Nintendo to succeed, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore the reality of the situation.

        • D.M.T

          Money is not the only reason for the lack of support, things aren’t that simple, life is not black and white. There’s politics in the gaming industry, even experts and professionals are biased a lot of times.

          • Magnus Eriksson


    • It’s too soon to judge, too soon to predict. The best games are just about to be released on Wii U. Remember DS and 3DS had a slow start. Now they sell like DAMN! With less horsepower than the competition, but that’s not the point, like it’s not the point with Wii U either, it’s the possibilities and design, the UI including hardware. It takes a while yes, but eventually is FTW. My prediction is that Wii U and PS4 will be the two best sellers in near future, while XBoner will loose the woody and becomes a small sidenote.

    • Dimitri Theodosakis

      Wii U Should have been 499.99 with Better Specs such as 100GB Flash Drive

      • Magnus Eriksson

        It should have been released one year later at the same pricepoint. Then it would have better specs.

    • fireheartis1

      Dude have you played AC4 yet? It is very dang close too the PS4. The Wii U is no where near as far behind as the Wii was not even close. Nintendo did a great job jumping into the HD race. They made the console way above the 7th gen, and just below the other two 8th gen consoles. You’ve got to remember this is their first HD console, so it is going to be very close graphically but just not as close as PS4 and X1 because they had a head start and know what HD consoles can do and how to make them better.

    • ItzameyaToad

      The problem is is no matter what Nintendo does these same sites will exclude them because Nintendo doesn’t play by the rules. Nintendo always focuses on themselves FIRST then 3rd party and they never bribe a company with money to get small exclusive things for Nintendo product’s or for good reviews on websites etc.. Nintendo does not need to conform to a bunch of websites that will talk down to Nintendo regardless of what Nintendo does. Nintendo has always done there best when they do what they want and not follow the competition/what the media wants.

      I agree to a point that this is a much more realistic number but IMO it will be a bit more than 25 million just givin the growth of the number of people who play video games and Nintendo products.I predict anywhere from 30-35 million maybe higher givin the growth of the industry over the years and the growth of people who buy Nintendo product’s

  • Christopher Acuna

    I just want this work day to end so that I can go pick up my Mario 3d World! Came very close to getting the digital copy but I am sucker for physical content. I download that Rollercoaster game last night, that’s good times right there.

    • I’m stuck doing a lot of Xbox stuff today for the launch but all I really wanna do is play A Link Between Worlds!

      • Gregg

        I had to choose between that, and Mario Party. Maybe I’m weird, but I went with Mario Party. I love me some party games. Nintendo really has a LOT to offer right now. πŸ™‚

        • Niknique

          Same here πŸ˜› call me crazy people but I got Mario Party over LBW. probably because I’ve been playing MP since the 1st one πŸ˜€

          • Gregg

            Same. I have all of them, and, to this day, I can’t think of any other game that has brought me more frequent 4 player fun with both kids and adults. I’ve been playing 9 lately, as I finally got my hands on it. Can’t wait for this one to show up! I pre-ordered via Toys R’ US, when I Pre-Ordered Pokemon Y. It took forever to show up, so, I won’t be holding my breath. P.S. Sounds like a 3DS friend code exchange is in order. 3DS: 5241-1907-8457

          • Niknique

            I know right? Stuff from Toys R’ us takes forever to arrive. Still, that Buy 1 get 40% off another deal was pretty good. That’s the only reason I shopped there. Anyways what’s your friend code man? πŸ™‚

          • Gregg

            Yep. That’s exactly why I got mine!! Funny story… Mario Party 3DS was the ONLY game not working with the discount. I was on the phone with a 90 year old who knew NOTHING about gaming, for about an hour, to get it fixed. Now, I just have to wait till the NEXT Mario Party to come out, for this one to show up. πŸ˜› 3DS: 5241-1907-8457

          • Niknique

            Lol!! That’s funny! Anyways here’s mine: 3351-4313-7539

          • Simon Stevens

            Anybody remember the Mario party games on gamecube?, the girl I was with at the time would have me up all night on it πŸ˜€ no sex for, just shouting at toad through the microphone, good times

          • Gregg

            omg…. lmao!!! Lol. Man, a night of Mario Party didn’t get you a score?! Go figure…. lol. I have all the Cube ones as well. I can top that. On my Wedding Night, friends came home with us and we played Mario Mart 64, till like 4am!! Nothing for me… NOTHING! lmao

          • Simon Stevens

            LOL not with her unfortunately, we still had a great time on it though, I’m sure she was using me for my gamecube and it’s library, she’d wake me up with her laughing at super monkey ball and frustrations at pikmin lol haha you got NONE? on your wedding night!? LOL that’s tragic stuff, saying that I used to snuff one out with a quickie with my ex and run back downstairs to play mario soccer on the Wii πŸ˜€

          • Gregg

            Gamers….. we’re sad. *Facepalm*. Lol!! Did you say Monkey Ball!! Sega never realized the gold they Had with the original Monkey Target…. I’ve had game nights on that alone…

      • Well then play it!

        All i have to say to that other console is, meh.

        A Link Between worlds is my new fav, game ever.

        Trust me your body will be ready πŸ˜€

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Dont forget the Majoras Mask reference in the game, and the mention of it by Eiji Aounuma earlier this year…

  • Mario

    I have no answers for this.

  • Seth S. Scott

    This holiday season with 3D World and next year with DK, Kart and hopefully Smash is going to be a definite push for the Wii U. If there is any games to bring over “non Nintendo fans” its Mario and Smash. The next Zelda for Wii U will be shown a lot more in 2014 I can almost guarantee, as Zelda pushes a lot of hardware sales too.

  • Ony

    I don’t know how you can make estimations if you can’t know the next *all companies* projects for Wii U.

    Maybe it will crash like shit,
    or maybe everybody will sudden love the Wii U and make tons of exclusivities, after some great move from Nintendo

    or perhaps we will all die in few weeks.

    You never know.

  • Arthur Jarret

    I don’t care. These numbers are boring.
    Interesting numbers are the number of games I own…

    Also, the number of games that will be wii U exclusive next year.

    Give us interesting numbers!

    • Magnus Eriksson

      Also number of beer in refridgerator is of relevance.

      • Arthur Jarret

        I’m more of a whiskey drinker myself. A good glass of it while playing games, roasting a wild boar and listening to metal… as a viking, I’m sure you understand my sentiment.

  • GameBoy1979

    That was a good call on his part to be so up front & honest about it. All of us Nintendo fans can only sit back & wait & see what really happens. Once Nintendo puts some stellar games out there that will bring in the gaming population, the system sales will probably jump a considerable amount. I was in Best Buy yesterday checking out a few things & the guy selling PS4’s said that the graphics right now on it aren’t really that big of a difference, so until they are able to use what the system has, the U should be able to hold its own & gain a respectable audience. Now Nintendo just needs to keep putting good games out & advertise the crap out of the system. Unfortunately, I don’t think what they have attempted so far is even getting to anyone outside of the gaming community. Some of my friends that have seen the new commercials trying to show how the Wii U is a new system, STILL don’t get it. The system looks too similar & the games all the same character-wise, so they think it’s just the same ol’ Wii.

    • erich80

      Man, I know serious gamers (PS and XBox ones), who usually use the internet, read magazines, and so forth, that, as of today, are not aware that the Gamepad is not a new controller for the Wii…

      That’s very sad, in fact…

      • GameBoy1979

        Yep, it just seems like an add-on for the established Wii. People simply aren’t getting the message no matter how hard Nintendo has tried (or not) to advertise.

        • erich80

          I seriously think that people at Leo Burnett should change their advertisement strategy as soon as possible.

          • GameBoy1979

            They most assuredly need to change something. But, who knows (and I don’t necessarily believe this), this could all be a part of a grand strategy to release information & games at a certain pace as not to divulge so much at once, thereby hindering everything obsolete to the gaming community before the PS4 & NextBox had hit the market.

          • erich80

            Yeah, but that would be indeed unlikely… I wholeheartedly believe that Nintendo should have taken advantage of 2013 since its 8th generation home console was “alone” in the market… Now that they have PS4 and XOne competing for consumer’s wallets attention (we can’t forget about X360 and PS3, which are still strong competitors, although older consoles), the scenario will get tougher and tougher…

          • GameBoy1979

            Very true. Not a great situation for the BIG N right now. But, they turned the 3DS around, so hopefully they have a little of that magic left in the bag.

          • erich80

            *fingers crossed*

          • I can confirm that we have about 10 000 000 Mana Points left πŸ˜€

          • GameBoy1979

            Haha, awesome!! Sounds like everything should be well & in order, sir!

  • In the end their predictions in sales mean nothing to me. Give me the games I like to play and I will buy your system and play games on it. No games then I stop playing or don’t buy at all. Simple as that. Maybe this will mean that the Wii U will have a shorter life or maybe it won’t but I do not expect Nintendo to stop supporting it any time soon.

  • beerkin

    They are years behind in HD game development yet already trounced everything the ps4 and Xbox have with sm3dw.

  • Gregg

    None of this stuff means anything. I’m thrilled to own a WiiU, and will be happy to watch it sore well past 25 mil. =)

  • Javier Smith

    I think this is a fair assessment. I’ve always said, the Wii U shares more in common with the purple cube than any other system they’ve made so far.

    Some may see this as bad because cube sales weren’t that high, but when all is said and done, there were tons of great games on the system. Gamers win in the end.

  • Will.F. Martinez

    I guess it makes sense. Dont really matter I got a wiiu and enjoying it better then my other consoles

  • Jack5221

    In my opinion, we shouldn’t have analysts for gaming. Most, if not all the time they are wrong. Not just with Nintendo, but with other stuff too. I don’t really take anything they say seriously.

  • Niknique

    Blasphemy! Lol jk maybe these sales are right maybe they’re not. Only time will tell.

  • larz_1234

    Well of course the real numbers will hopefully be higher than this but the gamecube was an amazing console that only true nintendo fans saw the greatness in and for the wii u to sell similar numbers that is a good worst case senario. Lets remember the ps4 and xone will most likely not captivate the world with sales either.

  • erich80

    Realistically, the number of 25 mil of Wii U units sold makes sense. Nintendo has been aiming the casual consumer for almost 7 years, and that kind of consumer doesn’t care about having the latest piece of technology in their living rooms. They are happy with their Wii because they can get together and have enough fun with Wii Sports (+ Resort), Wii Play (+ Motion), Wii Party, Just Dance, etc.

    I’m not criticizing Nintendo marketing strategy, and neither blaming the Wii; in reality, the Wii gave me back the joy of playing games and is my favorite console alongside the SNES.

    With regard the Wii U, I only hope Nintendo to deliver back, besides the already announced titles, a new F-Zero, Star Fox, Golden Sun, Kid Icarus and Metroid; a new Fire Emblem installment would also be epic. With all of that, all of us could say that Wii U accomplished its mission flawlessly.

    • greengecko007

      I partially blame the Wii. While I loved it, (graphics were fine, games were great), the tremendous success of the console only added to Nintendo’s conservative ways.

      Despite selling over 100 million units, I don’t think Nintendo ever even considered how much non gamers contributed to those sales. I know of several nursing homes, schools, hospitals, and even churches that own at least one Wii console. These aren’t groups that are likely to buy a Wii U, ever…

      • Magnus Eriksson

        I think you have a very point here. It also explains the reusage of the brand name Wii in their last product.

      • erich80

        Right… Those guys don’t need a new home console at all.

        Also, the Wii concept was very straight-forward. You swing your arms, the Miis swing theirs as well. On the other hand, the touch screen on Gamepad is not as much appealing as the Wii Remote was back in 2006 since today we have a plethora of devices (tablets, smartphones, laptops…) harboring the same technology.

      • au8277

        Not to mention a lot of us are forgetting just how much Kinect ate into the “casual” market. As much as I hate the thing, it was a pretty big success for Microsoft.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      My guess is that it will sell even lower than Gamecube did.

      • erich80

        That could be terrible… As long as I remember, Gamecube has sold something around 22 mil during its lifespan…

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          21 74 million units.

          • erich80

            Not that good, indeed. >.<

        • Magnus Eriksson

          True, but everything points in that direction. But this is an uncertain industry, thats hard to predict. Suddenly Nintendo releases something like an Online Zelda game that beats the shit out of everything out there and gathers millions of users. And boom, WiiU is the best selling console this generation. You never know. And Nintendo have proven to be a wildcard in the history too. I dont see any signs that this will happen though, but it could.

          • erich80

            Have you seen this?


            The guy is sort of crazy (for the good!), but it would be fantastic if his predictions turned out to be true.

            I doubt they will, unfortunately.

          • YogiGRB

            nice article, he is right. hope the kids come home πŸ˜›

  • Meh, i am confident that the Wii U will sell very well this holiday, key titles like Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS will help a lot.

    I dare even say that they will be on the top of the charts πŸ™‚

    Thank you for suporting the Wii U and Nintendo, your comments are very heart warming.

    • Simon Stevens

      LOLI was waiting for somebody to do Reggie ^^ I love ya man

      • Thank you, i hope you enjoy your Wii U, and i hope your body is ready for Desember 7.

        Sincerely Reggie

        • Simon Stevens

          πŸ˜‰ oh it’s ready alright

  • Simon Stevens

    That’s a silly premature projection if I ever did see one, yes I agree Nintendo are going after Nintendo fans first and for most and yes they are going after a different audience, but the gaming industry is bigger than it ever has been, I would say 80% of the 3DS library is Nintendo 1st party yet look at the numbers for that, I think Nintendo are going after the crowd from the ps2 that was left behind, 25 million life time is an insult looking at Microsoft and Sony numbers being at over 100 million, I think he was being a twat, albeit covering it up with the mr nice guy act.

  • Alexander Kleinwechter

    Pfft analysts, what do they really know, they sad xbox one is gonna sell 90 million, and ps4 120 million, i call that bullshit. Analysts these days dont know shit!

    • Simon Stevens

      They also said ouya would be a big hit LOL

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Anyone who said that was probably a backer for the project.

        • Simon Stevens

          I backed it >.> and I didn’t say it, I just wanted a retro games console lol but the controller was a pieve of shit that ran on batterys, ruined the whole experience for me

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You backed it?! You should be ashamed of yourself! Nah, jk.

          • Magnus Eriksson

            Feel for you bro. Also wanted it to succeed for retro purpouses.

          • Simon Stevens

            Would have been perfect tbh with a near 100% ds emulator and psp emulator getting there to supplement the already great amount of retro emulators available but that controller is horrible and I had 0 interest in getting a 3rd party controller just because of it, a controller should not need battery’s in this day and age, I really hope google make an android console or somebody professional because I know they’d at least do it right.

    • bizzy gie

      I don’t know. PS4 is the fastest selling console of all time.

      PS4- 80 million
      Xbox One 40-50 million
      Wii U- 30 million

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        I can see that happening from how things are now, but we’ll see.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Analysis is never based on truth, just predictions. There’s nothing wrong with predictions, it just shouldn’t be up there with actual news or be taken too serious. Calm down. πŸ™‚

      • Magnus Eriksson

        Kind of funny. But Michael Pachter is now one of the most generous analysts when it comes to predictions about WiiU’s sales number. Recently he stated that it will sell between 35-50M. Oh, the hate he got then. And now everyone have lowered the expectations even beyond that point. πŸ˜€

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          I think everyone hates analysts. Make a prediction, and you’re asking for it. People go crazy over anything anyways. πŸ˜›

          • Magnus Eriksson

            They hate predictions that conflicts with their feelings and wishes. An analyst only make predictions based on the available data, thats makes good analytics difficult in this industry. A game can suddenly prove to be the smash hit of the century. Another game got high hopes but proves to be a pile of crap when it enters the market. This is one reason I think it would be wise to get out titles as Zelda and Metroid. If games like those shows to be 9/10’s 10/10’s it could perfectly well be what lifts the WiiU up. But Nintendo needs to step out of the comfort zone now. Stop releasing party titles and rehearshed versions of Mario.

  • DOLBYdigital

    An honest opinion that isn’t heavily biased… nice, I don’t see that often.

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    The analysis could be right, or way off. How about we wait another year at least before making such claims? It’s like predictions are more viewed than actual news. Give the console a chance(that goes for the other two as well) before we start the doom and gloom crap.

    No one should take this serious anyways. Let’s all go about our day as usual.

    • GameBoy1979

      I’m glad someone else thinks the same. It seems projected sales have taken over actual sales these days, and everyone wants to deem a product doomed before it even has a chance.

    • Magnus Eriksson

      But to be honest here. Nintendos console is one year in its lifetime, and most media are very negative to it. If WiiU continues to take the approach towards childrens and families it might be a step in the right direction. But they have done to little effort to bring third parties to the game. And thats on the expense of us consumers. We had a very bad first year thanks to this. There is a reason its easier to buy a WiiU second hand instead of from retailers who cleared the shelves.

      • BGhp

        Because you wan’t the Wii U to fail

        • Magnus Eriksson

          That would be hateful. Im not a hateful person. So no. But you clearly thinks inside this spectrum of thought. Are you a hater?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’d say that’s probably a big yes.

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          • BGhp

            The Wii U shouldn’t be a sidekick console.

    • D.M.T

      First time i agree with anything you’ve said. No one should listen to these so called analysts.

      • Magnus Eriksson

        And still I have been right so far about everything I said about Nintendo.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Weren’t we suppose to be doing the silent treatment on each other or something? πŸ™‚ It’s fine, I don’t hold silly grudges.

        People can listen to them if they want, it’s just a matter of should you buy into too much what is said? I do believe that it won’t sell that high. Though, I’m thinking around 40 million than 25.

  • Agent721

    Wii u staff: As opposed to this type of article, how about a review of Super Mario 3D world? Why promote something stupid like these over the fact that an amazing game has just come out? Nintendo Life & billion other sites have the review up already. It just seems odd at how little you guys review actual games.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Articles like this bring in revenue. That’s basically it.

      • Agent721

        Yep…which is why I come here less & less lately. The comments are almost the best part.

      • i think the same, they like this kind of news for the time spended on the site.

    • Nintendo Life gets review copies ahead of time. We don’t. We have to buy them. My job is to report on Nintendo and the Wii U, regardless of whether that news is negative of positive.

      • Agent721

        Thanks for the reply, but you’d think your site would have more reviews. Mario 3D world is simply one example. This isnt about omitting bad news, its about including good news via reviews of good games.

        • Magnus Eriksson

          Was there a Wind Waker review btw?

      • If you need a review copy of a game please fill out the form on this page:

        Nintendo of America

    • Magnus Eriksson

      I think its great that WiiUDaily do what they do. Its more interesting to read this way. Remeber the two articles about E3? Both authors had different perspectives on the same thing. Where else will you find that?

      No, I beg the staff to keep on doing what they are doing. All of them are doing a great job here. Sometimes they are critical, other times praising. Much more interesting, and more fun debates too.

      • Agent721

        I enjoy the site as well, for debates, but this site could do more still.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        Not to mention driving fanboys up the wall.

  • Enumerating Wishes

    As Reggie said it’s about the lack of titles. The Gamecube proved that competing with hardware alone wasn’t enough. The Nintendo 64 is more powerful than the PS 1 and we all knew who’s favor it went to. Soon enough I’ll put my money where my mouth is.

  • Kevin Malone

    Only in a society of conspicuous consumption, where the goal is to sell more and more and more every year than the years before, can 25 million indicate disappointment and a lack of audience. To me even 25 million is incredible, and for a behemoth like Nintendo “losses” due to “disappointing sales numbers” seems to have little meaning.

    • Quicksilver88

      Oh come on they will likely end with close to 5mil by end of 2013 because they a past 4 now and have had increasing numbers in oct/nov. Zelda, Mario, and a pretty decent 3rd party lineup plus new bundles have helped. 2013 was a nightmare with horrible drought and relative rejection of 8gb model. Add to that almost daily bad press. I think it can easily do 7-8mil next year and more after that. I think 35-40 is possible.

      • Kevin Malone

        I am not sure where we disagree.

  • Justagamer

    I say wait till after 1 year for the other two consoles than we can see the numbers than

  • Ducked

    This isn’t legit. Video games get more popular every gen, I don’t see Wii U surpassing the Wii. But I see it getting 50-60 million in lifetime. 25m just isn’t realistic whatsoever.

  • Adecentboy777

    I would even say 20, not more!

  • TeplΓ‘n Csaba

    And I’m one of these 25 million idiot….

  • Link64

    I agree with Nintendo’s plan 100%

  • Fred

    I played Mario 3D world last night and I have to say I think they have a really good grip on HD

  • Paladinrja

    Ashley I would argue the placeholder for Coles comments was generated with Wii. I think with Wii U they’ll permeate that. This thing will explode there are far too many AAA designers on kickstarter, people like Richard Gariott, Chris Roberts, Corey and Lori Cole… The stage feels right for those devs that didn’t like the industry direction end of gen 6 going into gen 7; where the hard and fast hype-sell isn’t working anymore. Titles in Gen8 need to have much higher production values as they will need to be relevant the whole gen. I guess thats why we’re seeing HL3 (for every platform) Valve belong to that distinguished group and the stage is set.
    Rarely do any of us get a second chance to sample the greats once they’ve left the industry, the young people of today are indeed fortunate.

  • Most crit and wii u bashing you hear online does comes from fanboys who’ve either never played one or at best had a quick go in a shop.

    But legitimate crit includes: Poor original launch lineup (Not relevant anymore), small default gamepad battery, no analogue triggers on gamepad, no built in harddisk, incompatibility with some external hard disks (I’d imagine a Y usb connector will fix most compatibility issues but many wont know this or want to take the chance), low performance, Lack of universal voicechat system, and huge uncertainty about what kind of future third party support it’ll receive.

    Now, I think my Wii U is great, and unlike its rivals has great games out right now. I’d recommend it, but there are good reasons for gamers to look for alternative consoles instead.

    • Quicksilver88

      Hey Nintendo has developed their own extended life battery…now start shipping it with the system and make it avail in the US for those that want to upgrade…that and should include a twin A connector USB cable so anyone can plug their 2.5 drives in. I would like more flash space soon as well. These issues can be improved..the no analogue triggers was a horrible decision and no easy fix without splitting the base.

      • Agreed. They could fix the battery easily and doubling the flash to 64GB would have meant it would have taken me a number of months to fill rather than a few weeks, I don’t know at what point it make more financial sense to include a hard drive rather than just increase flash.

        The Wii U should be properly equipped out of the box.

        • Quicksilver88

          Have to agree…especially when the lack of a hard drive as a default feature is a real hindrance to developers, especially 3rd parties who are used to using that asset on current and next gen machines. I noticed on AC4 the game does a 1.1GB ‘update’ on first play that I am convinced is sort of an HD install of important components as that game boots and loads very fast. I was disappointed that the SD slot was only for Wii use as that could be a cheap way to increase storage as 32GB SD cards go for less than $20 on sale a lot. Nintendo could certainly make it useable in WiiU mode with a firmware modification…this would be a good way to give people more storage cheap. I am guessing once the next production batch starts Nintendo will start including that extra life battery…lets hope.

  • Squid

    We’ll see how it goes, I’m just wondering how the cat eared Gamestop employees who are selling Xbone’s are doi.

  • ACE

    well this is gonna be my last console from Nintendo

  • Madmagican

    Yeah, as much as I love my Wii U I’d definitely be inclined to say that it’s been EXTREMELY similar to the Gamecube so far in both performance and library

    • Quicksilver88

      Which is fine be me as Gamecube had my favorite library of an Ninendo system. Cube got a decent amount of 3rd party and then a great Nintendo lineup with Wave Race and F-Zero plus two zeldas, two metroid, and gems like star fox adventures and eternal dakness. Great exclusive RPGs like Baten Katos, Skies of Arcadia (i know it was on dc first), Lost Kingdoms and tales of symphonia…..i just pray WiiU ends up with as good a library as GC…wouldn’t mind some damned GC VC for that matter.

  • Dez

    Nintendo seems to be working a hell of a lot faster with adapting to developing games in HD. Analysts and the average consumer tend to count out Nintendo too swiftly. Nintendo will continue doing well and I suspect that the Wii U very well may turn a few heads and the forecasts will change.

  • Daniel

    I think the wii u is doing just fine. I don’t care about the sales. Alls I know is that I’m enjoying the wii u experience, and the games. I’m supporting them 100% because I believe in them. As long as they keep putting out good games, I’ll be by nintendo’s side. πŸ™‚ I’m glad they don’t give in to competition. They do their own thing and that is highly respectable.

  • Krzysztof

    There’s nothing to be concerned about. Like Reggie says over and over again “software sells hardware”. Now looking at current sales of SM3DW I’m absolutely amazed how good this game is selling, despite being in the shadow of mega hyped PS4 and XBOX One. Imagine few months in the future when even bigger system sellers will be released and next gen hype dust settles. MK8 will give Wii U mega boost and SSB will skyrocket Wii U’s sales (don’t know how you guys, but I know plenty of people who would buy the Wii U only for that game). Not even mentioning Bayonetta or X. On the top of it, with high probability, there’s a next Zelda (or) Metroid to be announced. Either of these games would be a huge success in terms of hardware sales. And the best thing is, that all of this stuff is no more then 12 months ahead of us. Trust me, Wii U will be just fine. Predicting what’s going to happen in 2015 is way far fetched and life time sales estimates are as good as predicting weather for next couple of years.

  • InterTreble

    I don’t know. What I know is that 100M consoles will not be reached neither by Wii U, nor PS4, nor Xbox One. It’s a record, and it’s Nintendo’s. I’m sorry for haters.

    • Levi Johansen

      PS2 = 153 mill – that’s the record.

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        157 million, actually.

        • Quicksilver88

          DS is right there though with 150mil+…….and when you look at Wii and DS….Nintendo dominated last generation sales wise pushing more than 250mil units…What I don’t get is why they invest more in cross play gaming with WiiU and 3DS…imagine Fire Emblem with WiiU coss play and character share. Same with Pokemon and Mario Golf…..doing this would encourage their huge 3DS croen interested in buying a WiiU…do special pricing like PSN that lets you get both version for combo pricing. I am hoping SSB ismthe start of more handheld/console goodness from Nintendo.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            No one was talking about total sales of the DS and Wii. Lol. We’re talking about sales between one console. Not combined. PS2 wins that one hands down. Had to correct Inter since he doesn’t do his research and I know he’s one of the fanboys here.

            If we were talking about combined sales, then you’d be correct. Since we’re on combined sales, look up sales of PS2 and PSP sales and they aren’t far behind that 250 million.Gotta admit, Sony knows how to make their consoles last even after the usual 5 year cycle. Truth be told, the Wii U won’t do 100 million. Wii was a rarity because it targeted people like grandmothers and parents to play games, and was brought into nursing homes and hospitals. Chances are, those same people will stick to the WIi. Not trying to take anything away from Nintendo, just being fair about it. πŸ˜›

          • Quicksilver88

            No doubt about WiiU nit even scratching Wii sales…I think N64 numbers are more likely with 35mil or so a reasonable sucess. If I was Nintendo I would put a new Wii for like $60 that has no dvd drive and like 32gb of flash plus sd slot. Then put Wii library on eShop and make it avail for eWii and WiiU. Agree in that Sony gets the gold for system life ps1/psp/ps2 and now ps3 all have long lives with new game coming out even after their new systems release.

      • InterTreble

        They spoke about Wii sales, not PS2… I commented the article

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          That’s not a record. Lol. That’s a personal best for Nintendo for their consoles. In order for the Wii to have a record for consoles sold, they have to beat out the PS2. You don’t have a firm understanding on what a record is, or don’t understand the English language too well.

          • InterTreble

            I am not mothertongue but I cleared my position. If you still don’t understand it’s your problem, and not linguistic… πŸ˜‰

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            So that means you’re just too stubborn to admit you’re wrong. Yes, you cleared that right up. Your position on the other hand, well you sure cleared that you can’t handle criticism. πŸ˜‰

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Sorry, dude. Wii’s 100 million isn’t the record. Playstation 2 sold the most of any console or even handheld. DS did have the lead for a short time, but fell behind due to low sales after the 3DS released. It helps to do research before replying my misguided friend.

      • InterTreble

        In the article they spoke about 100 mil Wii which is the record of last gen, and it’s Nintendo’s. It helps to think before writing my blind friend.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          “I don’t know. What I know is that 100M consoles will not be reached neither by Wii U, nor PS4, nor Xbox One. It’s a record, and it’s Nintendo’s. I’m sorry for haters.”

          You mentioned nothing of it being a record last gen, only that it was a record. Not a record of what. Quit trying to back track and just admit that you messed up. You are the blind one my friend, blind to your own stupidity and can’t admit that you were wrong, but would rather try hard to be right. It’s sad. Also, the article never stated it was a record last gen. You made that one up just to try to save yourself and trying to make people sound wrong. Nice try. πŸ™‚

          Give up the blind fanboy act. It doesn’t serve you well. Only makes you look more desperate to people who read your comments. Again, do research before replying, and it wouldn’t hurt to re-read what you type out in the future. That way, you don’t confuse yourself or look foolish. πŸ˜›

          • InterTreble

            Why you always offend? Congratulation for your education. And YOUR stupidity. Believe me that it is worse to read you always attack, my rude friend. I will not reply you, learn how to behave before talking about videogames

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Seeing that you made so many grammar and spelling errors in your reply, you sound very upset. I don’t blame you, I would be too if someone called me out what is the truth. Also, I know your type, and I’ve seen your comments in the past, and you do try very hard to be right out of desperation. Especially your comments to oontz a while back. You just don’t like being exposed, and your ignorance shows though your words.

            Rude to you? Only when you’re rude to me. Calling you foolish isn’t rude, it’s my opinion of you. Calling you an idiot would be considered rude. So you had it coming. You only get called dumb when you say dumb things. Stupidity? Well, shouldn’t call someone stupid when you can’t even comprehend an article, which I point out very well to you. You called the 100 million Wii’s sold a record, the article in question, doesn’t mention anything of the sort as a record. Therefore, you just made yourself look stupid by not being a man, and admitting you’re wrong. No one attacked you, I just called you out on your mistake which you refuse to address, instead you ignore it. πŸ™‚

            “I will not reply you, learn how to behave before talking about videogames”

            Bye bye. You did yourself a favor and for me. I prefer talking to someone who isn’t biased. Next time, learn to be more humble and people won’t call you foolish and stupid in the future.

        • LightupmyLife

          Bro, u just stated that it was a record and didn’t say if u meant a record of all time sales or this gen. That and it having 100 million isn’t a record bro its just lead in hardware sales last generation. A record is something you break so that didnt make sense. For it to be a record it would have to pass the PS2s 157 million, which it didnt.

          Just admit you screwed up bro. No use being stubborn about it. Lol.

          • InterTreble

            Which part of the sentence “record for last gen” is not clear, man? Relax and smile, life is beautiful! πŸ˜‰

  • Donaald

    I find it so hilarious that every time that Nintendo rises the “naysayers” and doomers are just around the corner to damage Nintendo. I get it, it’s easy ad money from click and bait. But do you really need to whore money like that? Is the economy so bad that everyone has to take advantage from fanboyism/hate for a few pennies?

  • Dimitri Theodosakis

    For me i hope Wii U Reach 10 Million by January 2015 (2014 Wii U Sales: 6.1 Million)
    For me i hope Wii U Reach 18 Million by April 2016 (2015 Wii U Sales: 8 Million)
    For me i hope Wii U Reach 30 Million by June 2017 (2016 Wii U Sales: 12 Million)

  • Relias

    Good news between now and 2014 (The games being released) along with whatever comes out in 2015-17 (I am guessing Wii U will have 5 years of life even if this is correct after all I believe Gamecube had about 5 years) Wii U will do better then 25 million. (In this day and age a 300 dollar system with great games is a value and as thus I believe after the hype of the launch of PS4 and One is over that the Wii U sill start climbing in sales once people start realizing it finally has games worth buying it for) The bad news (Or bad news if your a rabid fanboy anyway) is that it might still end up in last this gen in total sells. I think about 35-40 million is more realistic for lifetime sales. (Of course the other bit of good news it could end up in second still past the One but PS4 will dominate this generation)

  • DragonSilths

    10 Million from Smash Bros I bet. 7.5 Million from Mario Kart and oh 10 million more from Zelda HD I would say. So there we go. Those 3 games will get that. I say Wii U gets a total of 60 Million life time sales.

  • Rinslowe

    25 million….
    Next Dec they’ll likely change that figure again to, 30-40m.

    25-35 million units sounds about right, maybe.

  • fireheartis1

    I think Nintendo is going to sell more than 25 million consoles in it’s live time. There are many fans of all gaming consoles that are waiting until Smash Bros and the new Zelda too come out. Also I have a co-worker who say the commercial for Super Mario 3D World and says he now wants a Wii U, and this is one of those guys who say that Nintendo “relies way too much on Mario” lol. It’s funny how a PlayStation fanboy who says that now wants a Wii U because of a Mario game. πŸ™‚ I think Nintendo could very well hit the 40 Million mark myself. Heck and if it is only 25 Million guess what, Nintendo still makes a profit off the Wii U just like they did the GameCube. It wont be as big of a profit because of the economy, but it still will make them a good chunk of change to continue into the 9th generation of consoles.


    Lazy analysts. They simply took the amount of Wii Us sold in year 1, and multiplied it by the expected 6-year lifespan of the system. (4.25m x 6 = ~25mil)

    I made the exact same prediction, but I’m no paid expert like they are. They aren’t even bothering to make detailed predictions factoring in future price drops, big game releases, new IPs, etc.

  • thedeciderU

    have you experienced NSM3DW? absolutely gorgeous game with a unique nintendo style, and of course, excellent gameplay. i hope this moves consoles this season.

  • Mj78

    It is just another nail in the coffin. The Wii u was poorly advertised from day one and Nintendo fans just did not bother buying the 3rd party games that were high quality. If Nintendo fans had backed third parties with Need for speed:most wanted, Fifa 13, Rayman Legends, Zombii U etc etc, then perhaps the third parties would not have been so quick to write off the console.
    We don’t really need to say it yet again, but the fact remains that the Wii u name was a huge mistake, and the console is just not strong enough to sell the millions it was originally predicted to. I have had a SNES, Game Boy, DS, 3DS, WII and Wii U and although Wii U is a good idea, it has been poorly marketed and it will go down as another Nintendo failure, albeit one with potential. The next few years are simply a case of damage limitation and then it will be a case of starting again for Nintendo with a new home console that can truly deliver at all levels.

    • Quicksilver88

      Actually Fifa 13 sucked and was a Fifa12 with roster update enraged fans. Rayman Legends sold better on WiiU than any other platform and would have done even better if it was a Spring exclusive like it was supposed to be. ZombieU sold 450K units as a new franchise and launch title which is actually pretty good. I mean I agree in that many fine games like AC4, NFSMW, Injustice, W101, Splinter Cell, and Deus EX are all excellent games and sold like poo. I have done my part and have 5 Nintendo games and 5 3rd party. I just wish more Nintendo owners would support the 3rd party that is worthwhile.

  • 2014 will be a far better year for the Wii U game’s wise. I think gamers will have to take notice. Games are ultimately what sells consoles and if they had half their 2014 lineup in 2013 we’d have seen a very different situation right now.

    • Quicksilver88

      Hell if they just had some of the late 2013 lineup in the first half of the year it would have helped.

  • crocodileman94

    Interesting how 25 million is considered a failure when 22 million isn’t.

  • Nintengoth

    I would like Ninty to reach at least 50 million in sales with the Wii U. keep in mind that when Mario games come out they are system sellers, Zelda, c’mon, Super Smash Bros, Oh Yeah, Mario Kart, Defo! and then hopefully Metroid, F-Zero, Starfox and so on.
    when all those games are out they will sell loads.

    • uptownsoul

      the games you mentioned will sell systems but that doesnt mean it still wont settle in at 25-30 Million when all is said and done. Because the gamecube got like 25Million and they had a Zelda, super smash, mario, and mario kart too

  • I always lol at stuff like this, The console has been out for a year.. That’s not long at all. Sure, It’s not doing as good as people wanted it to/thought but as i said before, It’s only been a year. As soon as Nintendo get the Mario’s Zelda’s and Bayonetta 2 out, The system will have a dramatic increase in sales. It’s important that Nintendo make a Metroid game sometime soon. Metroid is a darker Nintendo game and it appeals to a lot of people. If Nintendo make more darker games, Then i can see them selling a lot more units. Zelda could do with a darker story, personally; I loved Twilight Princess and thought it was a great game due to the setting and story. If Nintendo can do something like that again, then i’ll be happy. Having said all this, I still think Mario should stay as it is;The Mario games already reach different audiences.

  • Green

    I’m confident WiiU will have 30 million sales, will it be the success Nintendo though? No it won’t. IF I was nintendo I personally wouldn’t have made the tablet controller, and instead invested that money into increasing the console power. That way the Wiiu would’ve been out a year earlier, and would’ve been on par enough to rival both ps4 and xbone. By doing so people would see that NIntendo already brought the next gen, and would’ve raced to pick up the console, but currently I feel most people have no care for the Wiiu in terms of the Casual crowd. I feel like most of them just don’t care for it even if they do know about it, but granted thats just my opinion.

  • Jeovany

    this is terrible. Nintendo should have went for the causal market and made nintendo land have online multiplayer. Seriously its 2013 and they still make game without it.

  • Grulnork

    It’s good there is some pressure on Nintendo now. My favourite console was the GameCube and that was in a similar position as the Wii U is. The easy money from the original Wii made Nintendo lazy. At least Mario Galaxy and Zelda was high quality, so I am not disappointed about the Wii, but I think it could have been better.

    I agree with the analyst that this console is really for the Nintendo fan and nothing else. Not for cross platform games and not for gimics. And I am happy with that.

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  • Christopher Westcott

    Honestly, I think with the right marketing, the Wii U can be a beast this holiday season. People are still hurting. I recently bought my PS4 and I paid almost $600 after I felt obligated to buy the $49.99 PS Plus Pass for 12 months and an (I got ripped) $90 2 year warranty. When sales tax was added in, my $399 purchase moved to $583! How many parents can afford that? Not many.

    Nintendo has to become the value console for parents with small children. If it can do that, Nintendo can have quite a bit of sell through. Also, families loved motion controls. That hasn’t stopped. But marketing additional HD games like Wii Sports, which sold so many units, Nintendo can entice people to upgrade to an HD box.

    There is more to be said here but ALL IS NOT LOST. It’s short sighted to say that – especially without a little more analysis into what the value proposition of the Wii U is to begin with – low cost, family friendly machine that is immediately accessible. It’s backwards comparable for both software and hardware. I think if the message gets out and penetrates, Nintendo is in great shape.

    It’s really not such a bad thing to be the HD successor to a $100 million+ system…