We know we have a lot of international readers here at Wii U Daily, but that doesn’t change the fact that we’re primarily Americans. Today we like to sit down with family and stuff ourselves with turkey, argue over football, and then pass out in a turkey induced coma. Before I get a start on that (what am I saying, I hate football and I’m probably just going to play Assassin’s Creed 4 all day while the turkey cooks) I wanted to wish everyone here at Wii U Daily a Happy Thanksgiving. Even if you don’t celebrate the holiday, you have a wonderful day! [Image credit HoppyBadBunny on DeviantART] local_offer Nintendo wii u wii u daily stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when jjbredesen Thank you, don’t live in the States but greetings from Norway 🙂 Jack5221 Not everyone here in Costa Rica celebrates Thanksgiving. Its actually very uncommon. But since Im from the US, I decided to invite a bunch of my friends over and cook a thanksgiving dinner for us all. (Im a culinary arts student here) After dinner we’ll all be playing Wii U. Super Mario 3D World, Wii Party U, Wii Sports Club, Nintendo Land, and Just Dance 2014. Looking forward to it all, Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Guttsman Happy thanksgiving! I will be playing Assassins Creed 3 as I think it is more appropriate for the holiday 😉 MetroidZero Just got that game for PC for $9.97 ! Brian Lockett At first glance, I read that as “I just got that gaming PC for $9.97!” I was like o_O “Where?!” Magnus Eriksson Happy celebration. Hope all americans remember the millions of indians that was murdered, subject for ethnic cleansing and landrobbery today. 🙂 jjbredesen http://i.imgur.com/DRVRZGs.gif Kirbyomega Here in ‘murica, we call ’em native peoples to respect their origins. Kevin Malone I prefer Indian nations, as it emphasizes that theirs were often well-developed civilizations, not mere “tribes” in the modern pejorative sense. I also heard First Peoples used, but that sounds more mythic, as if they are a people no longer around, when anyone studying North American Indians knows that many are very much still around. Just ask Arizona, which cannot stand the relatively large and thriving Navajo Reservation, and that American courts are siding with them a little more than they’d like (in addition to Navajos having their own court system). Magnus Eriksson One of my best friends is a native american. He have no problems with the term Indian, but he prefers to use the term human being. Mario Then you have a good friend. Magnus Eriksson I have many good friends 🙂 Kirbyomega ‘MURICA. Daniel Gonzalez That reminds me of a commercial I saw years back. CMB They be taking our name, the indians from india! Magnus Eriksson Good that you americans are respectful towards your minorities then. 🙂 Kirbyomega *inserts eagle picture here* Magnus Eriksson The american eagle? 🙂 Kirbyomega The one and only Guest The Colbert one is my favorite: Kevin Malone Here we go: Daniel Gonzalez Usually reloading the page helps. If not, then it might have something to do with your browser perhaps. Kevin Malone Thanks. Looks like it uploaded on my second try. It’s a fan art of Stephen Colbert, political satirist from Cartoon Network, looking incredibly patriotic. Daniel Gonzalez That’s what I call an epic pic. Magnus Eriksson Interesting that both the americans and nazi-germans chose the eagle as a symbol. Is it connected with genocide in some way? Kevin Malone As the late American comedian George Carlin said, “I leave symbols to the symbol minded.” That aside, not sure the eagle symbol was inevitable. I am reminded that Benjamin Franklin much preferred the turkey. Makes me wonder what other symbols ancient Rome may have considered before it became a vast empire. Magnus Eriksson Romans used the eagle and the fasci. As the fascists did too. Alex Hey in Mexico we also chose eagle as a symbol in our flags. Magnus Eriksson And im sure the Chiapas loves you. 🙂 Alex I’m not from Chiapas Mexico. Mario Odd… Daniel Gonzalez The native people are the real Americans than Americans today. Daniel Gonzalez America has got a long way to go before they can respect any country or people of different cultures. Ernesto Perez If you’re in states like California and Hawaii you would see that they’re minority-majority states. It has been predicted that by at least 2050, whites would no longer be the majority. Just thought that I should give you a heads up. Daniel Gonzalez Don’t tell the Minute Men that. Ernesto Perez It would better for some people to find the truth on their own. Magnus Eriksson Im coloured blind. I just want the workers to unite and raise their fists against the system. Sdudyoy Pretty much sums it up. Kevin Malone Heh, as my North American Indian History professor said on our way out the door, Happy Thankstaking. Laud That’s only funny because I read it with an Indian accent. LOLHAHEHAHHAUINFSNNAINDA- Seriously, that’s tough. It’s one of those things that never gets mentioned either, kinda like prostate cancer awareness month in comparison to breast cancer awareness month. Bortly Yes, because the natives weren’t slaughtering each other before the white man came and took over. ICHI Oh yeah, those native americans were really efficient at slaughtering each other for control of land. Seriously, here in england, we don’t celebrate any day we took part in stealing anyones land. I’m sure thats the same of all european countries too. I wouldnt have a problem with thanksgiving if the development of the USA was one of mutual respect, but all it stands for is a big joke and a stab in the back. Arthur Jarret Aren’t most christian holidays in celebration of taking over an entire culture? Even christmas used to be a pagan Roman holiday… for instance – there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday. Other christian holidays just happen to line up with some major holidays of the cultures they took over and actually signify great victories over those cultures… (although their meaning has changed to seem puritan over the ages). Ah well… a priest once told me that the church is not meant for perfect people. That’s why I’m an atheist. ICHI Oh Christmas goes back even further than that, we don’t celebrate it as the birth of Jesus though, it’s all Ra in our house. After Egypt it was taken up by the Greeks and the Romans copied most of their beliefs, then yes you are right complimented Christianity as a way of controlling the fighting masses. May have it wrong but think it was Constantine? That isn’t still really the same as stealing the land off the people that helped you survive. Magnus Eriksson In hoc signo vinces Magnus Eriksson You are halfway right there. Christmas is also a mix with pagan joleblot from the north. Saturnalia that the romans had probably gave some inspiration, as presents and things like that was an important part. But christmas as celebrating birth of christ was connected to the christening of north. Jesus was very unlikely born in december too (nothing supports claims like that). Arthur Jarret Learning stuff like this will make having discussions with christian zealots in the centre of town (and getting them in ‘angry rant mode’) so much better… Thanks, Magnus! (And ICHI too) Magnus Eriksson Thanks. Im happy to see my five years university study in ancient history finally came to use. 😀 Heres another provocative present for you. Easter is the rememberance of the death of Christ? Nah, not true. Even the easter bunny got more to do with easter than the death of christ. Its the hunt of the rabbit by Orion thats the real story behind easter. Christians just modified it for their own purpouses. Derk Just because we don’t know the exact date for Jesus birthday doesn’t mean he didn’t exist and that the holiday is automatically pagan. The Roman’s holiday celebrated the sun winning the battle over darkness of winter, which seemed fitting the pope should make Jesus birthday fall on this date as a separate holiday because they lost track of his real birthday. The church is meant for sinners because just as healthy people don’t need a doctor, the righteous don’t need direction. Atheism is just an excuse to justify bad behavior. – “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sow, that shall he also reap.” – “Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.” Do not forget what is important and do not lose your soul trying to gain the world. nexxus6 See my post above regarding the “development of the USA”. You should be thankful on Thanksgiving also, because you could be goose-stepping to the German national anthem right about now. SomeFluffer64 Thanksgiving isn’t a celebration of the taking of Indians land. The first Thanksgiving was celebrated when the Pilgrims were thanking the local Native Americans who helped them survive. That was a few years before the conflict began. And why should we care about history? Any day-off where we can eat a lot is A-Okay to me! nexxus6 Thank you. Kevin Malone No idea (I’m not knowledgeable on the subject). What material do you have in mind to get me started to show Indian nations were living deplorably in terms of how they interacted with other Indian nations? I want to be open to other points of view, so would very much like to start with some of the resources you read to reach your own conclusion. brine While there was clearly some abuse of Indians (as there has been abuse across the planet of people groups regardless of ethnicity) you overlook many facts. Land was purchased, often multiple times from different groups making claims on the land in order to have clear deed…and often the same parties were paid multiple times (and not just with glass beads as if often reported). Second…there were actually some good relationships between settlers and Native Americans. Third…the idea of the ‘noble savage is often a myth’…you know where it is only the ‘white people that are evil’. Native Americans would would rape, pillage and murder just like any people group…one example is skinning their adversaries alive and leaving them to die in the snow because they would die slower. During the French Indian war there were groups of Indians friendly with missionaries. During a raid a group of Indians captured another group of Indians…the peace was broken with the missionaries because after trying to talk them out of killing their captives…they refused and demanded to kill them. They then tried to stop them from killing them in their regular manner…they would cause their prisoners to stand in a line, interlock arms at the elbows and clasp their hands in front of them. The Indians that did the capturing would then run or ride across the line of people and cut their guts open to which the prisoners would capture their own guts in their hands. The missionaries told them if they were going to kill them at least do it ‘humanely’ and not torture them…they refused and attempts to stop this killing resulted in a large rift between missionaries and many groups of the Native Americans. God has blessed America more than any nation on this earth. Thanks be to God for all the blessings we have had as a nation. May we learn to live in peace, under the truth of His Word and regain what we have lost as a country as we have continued to turn our back on Him despite His grace. Laud To me, your entire message became null & void the moment you brought God up in an attempt to spark controversy. Be considerate of others with different beliefs, it’s fine to talk about your God but the way you put it made it sound like we’ve done something wrong. Stop. brine I didn’t bring up God to spark controversy and really I’m not too concerned how you perceive my message. I brought it up out of thankfulness and knowing where our blessing truly come from as a nation and why we have been so exceptional as a country in spite of our short comings. Go back and read the writing of our founders and you can read how ‘controversial’ they were by thanking God and discussing scriptures…You can start with George Washington after congress requested he write a speech to…Thank God….you’ll probably be shocked because he even (as many founders did) mention the importance of the truth of His Word in guiding this country and where this country would be destined to go by ignoring where our blessings come from. brine And just to totally confuse you…my Grandfather was full blooded Cherokee…and a Christian… Daniel Gonzalez So was my maternal grandfather, but I don’t see a reason why you bring religion into a site that is about the Wii U and its games, or just video games in general. Save the talk to church or find a website that covers those topics. Religion has no place here. Edit: Also, your full blooded Cherokee grandfather was Christan because he and his parents and grandparents generations back were forced to convert during the Indian Removal Act. They were forced to learn the christan ways in Indian Schools and stripped them of their culture. They had no choice. Not something that I’d be proud about. Yet, this is a great nation? Lol. That’s rich. brine Being thankful…unlike the conversation starter which was blasting the holiday…again…a site about wii u involved happy thanksgiving…again..check your history about what thanksgiving is about. Daniel Gonzalez Nah, I’m not interested in the American version of what Thanksgiving is. Anyone who does research, knows the dark history of Thanksgiving and the start of America. American history will always hide those facts. Again, don’t bother glorifying America. It’s just embarrassing. Our nation is a shameful one and the rest of the world knows it, and being an American myself, so do I. Shota you are really awesome daniel! Wish that most Americans where like you Daniel Gonzalez Oh, there are plenty like me. Unfortunately, there are so many too that just like to act like we are the best nation in the world. I don’t see the point in pretending that my country is so great, and others should follow our example. Magnus Eriksson Love that guy too. But to be honest,most of the americans I know are very good people. 🙂 Shota i like you too 🙂 Mario I know a lot of people from other countries who are good people. Cdwoods Thank you. I’m from America and I got to agree that our history… Isn’t the best. But I’m getting tired of the people who think just cause America kinda sucks that everyone in it sucks too and is a stereotypical american. But oh well, my favorite country is honestly none ATM. Also, there is a lot of Americans who do suck and are jerks I’m not around unless forced to be. Now time to end this pointless comment that probably will go nowhere. Magnus Eriksson and excactly what argument did you try to win by that? NintenScience http://godisimaginary.com/ Laud Actually a lot of our ‘founders’ were deists and many disliked religion. Honestly, if your God wants to fix things he can come down and set some rules but until he does, the rules of WiiUdaily apply. I will no longer respond to any messages concerning religion, it’s bad news. brine Actually very few of our founding fathers were deists…revisionist history….and I can direct you to actual quotes from those founding fathers that talk about not only God but their trusting in the Bible as source and guide for this country. Guest Oh look. Another American defending his countrymen despite the cold facts. In truth, this is the true reality of America. Cheers mate. MetroidZero Amen! SeroReviews Wow. It is just unbelievable how many people, even today, can’t stand hearing the word “God”. It’s like it hurts their ears. Maybe it does, who knows… Let them. They’re just fulfilling the prophecies. They can’t help it, it has been determined by someone far more powerful that it should be like this. (Waiting the tons of dislikes that will only prove I’m right lololol) ScrewAttack “Blessed in the head” about sums you ‘narnas up. Magnus Eriksson Its not so much the word God as the people who utters the words. There are to many stupid people believing in a god you know. Thats why. Mario Hey! Who are you calling stupid!? Magnus Eriksson Not everyone who calls themselves Christians. I know many highley intelligent christians, muslims, jews, buddhists etc. But there are many really stupid people among them too. Unresponsible nutjobs who use their beliefs as an excuse for not acting or even support the worst atrocities possible. Mario Agreed. NintenScience Christians. Mario I know that! Jon and there are even more stupid people that don’t Mario It doesn’t hurt me. Magnus Eriksson The dyslectican agnostic lay wake at night wondering if there was a dog. Daniel Gonzalez “God has blessed America more than any nation on this earth. Thanks be to God for all the blessings we have had as a nation. May we learn to live in peace, under the truth of His Word and regain what we have lost as a country as we have continued to turn our back on Him despite His grace.” Are you saying that God favors America, while the rest of the nations of the world are inferior? Lol. If God blessed America more than any nation, then why did he give us such a dunce of a President that forces people against their will to who can’t afford insurance, to apply for it? Yeah, your comment lost credibility fast. 😛 brine Our current president is called reaping what we’ve sown as a nation…which shows the direction we are heading. Daniel Gonzalez I thought God blessed America more than any other nation? Yeah, you see how that comment made no sense? Thank you for clarifying what the rest of the world already knows. brine He has/had…but there is always a time for reaping…name another country that has had as great a success our this nation. LordGamer England 🙂 God says so. brine And England has declined as the once greatest nation on the earth for the same reason America will. Magnus Eriksson The drone guy? Yeah, if you meet him… Tell him that the norwegians would like to get that peace price back 🙂 Laud Oh god, I tried to stop it before it happened and now it’s in full swing. I’m outta here. http://www.hdwallpapersinn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/84867_free-anime-wallpapers12.jpg Be nice to each other pls, and maybe one day you’ll learn to love each other just as these anime girls love me… Kevin Malone Who said anyone’s hating on each other here? The discussion seems civil enough. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I know I’m not mad at anyone here. Kevin Malone What do you think of the Nez Perces, who were considered by many scholars, such as Historians L.V. McWhorter and Brian Schofield, to be incredibly peaceful, whose deeds included literally saving the Lewis and Clark expedition, nursing back to health everyone in it for the winter then leading them out of the harsh mountains, sacrificing warriors’ lives to protect American fur trappers, running down the Whitmans’ murderers for the U.S.. and furnishing help and horses to Colonels Steptoe and Wright? In response, the Perces were ordered into a Reservation away from their homeland, and when a small group of rogues within one of the Perces camps (the Wallowa) disobeyed their peace chief and attacked settlers, the Americans brought in an army that specifically targeted the women and children (many more were killed than warriors) of all Perces camps who had not yet surrendered, undefended camps were attacked by the army at every opportunity (an unheard of practice for the Perces, who were disgusted by it), and who were led by Howard, “the Christian General,” who allowed officers to carry on these acts, and who allowed the scalping of dead women and children out of revenge? In the mean time, the Perces wanted only to be left alone, and avoided conflict at every opportunity. Even when ambushed, such as during the Battle of the Big Hole, they gained the upper hand, but when they had an opportunity to destroy Colonel Gibbons and his entire contingent, they chose not to, because they prioritized saving their families over gaining a victory, which contrasted to General Howard’s willingness to sacrifice his own men from an already exhausted army to keep pace with the more nimble Perces (Schofield Selling Your Father’s Bones: America’s 140-Year War against the Nez Perce Tribe p. 180). In fact, one of these officers, Colonel Gibbons, went so far as to kill every survivor (mostly noncombatants) after the Battle of the Big Hole, which contrasted the Perces practice of only targeting warriors, who were nonetheless often spared (David Lavender, Let Me Be Free: The Nez Perce Tragedy p. 285). In case anyone thinks this behavior was an aberration, too, it was General Sherman, of Civil War fame, who mustered three armies east of the Continental Divide to cut off the Perces, and sent a dispatch to all three of them ordering the officers to assassinate all Perces elders and leaders, and taking away all their possessions, then dumping the Perces remnants in a wasteland, in effect ordering culturecide. Are the Perces a rare exception? Laud Come on guys… add each other on Skype or something, this isn’t the place for that. >_> brine Such as Magnus Eriksson clearly stirring up the conversation. Daniel Gonzalez You also added to it by bringing up religion, so you’re just as guilty. We all played our part in it. No use playing innocent. brine again, it was a comment on being thankful…look up the original intent of thanksgiving…again, being thankful for the blessing of God. If you want to feign offense again, read what our founding fathers wrote… Daniel Gonzalez If that’s your only defense for America, you’re unarmed. Thanksgiving is just a way to cover up what they did to the native people of our so called “Great Nation.” Your meaning of Thanksgiving is nice and all, but talking about God on WiiUDaily has no place. Let’s leave it like this. Drop the topic of God and your version of Thanksgiving, and I’ll do the same. I think enough has been said on this topic already. I expect the crazy trolls will be around soon to try and cause a huge ruckus anyways. 😛 Have a good day. brine 1. Probably only the second time I have commented on wii U daily so hardly a troll. 2. Only reason I did comment was because of a hostile inaccurate statement that started this. 3. Again, don’t pick and choose revisionist history and try to act like even the ‘native americans’ didn’t have blood on their hands and try and push the evil white man narrative. 4. Thanksgiving CLEARLY has God as a focus…if you choose not to celebrate Thanksgiving or want to distort what the meaning is or make up your own meaning then we live in America so have at it…so if an article pops up discussing Thanksgiving He clearly has relevance regardless of what the site is on. Daniel Gonzalez Clearly, you didn’t comprehend what I said. I’m talking about the trolls that will come around here and instigate this further. Chill out. As for your other points, I’m not interested in your beliefs, and that’s where I’m going to leave it. Sorry. Magnus Eriksson Sorry man. The white man has a lot of blood on his hands. Mario Maybe. But I have none. Magnus Eriksson You harvest the fruits from the trees grown in a blood stenched soil, so yes you do… And so do I. Mario Ahh… NintenScience Agreed. NintenScience Ignorance? Magnus Eriksson Now what would Jesus say? Thou shalt not judge. Kevin Malone Never used Skype, heh. In fact, haven’t used a messenger in years. I am not the social type. Daniel Gonzalez Shame. Socializing is fun. 🙂 brine You want me to make excuses for bad behavior…people are people all over…clearly their were things wrong but some of this revisionist pie in the sky history ‘white man evil everyone else good’ is blind and foolish. Kevin Malone You misunderstand my argument. Nowhere was I arguing that “white” people are more evil than “other” people. I was attempting to show that America has more than aberrations to account for in regards to its behavior toward Indian nations. In other words, it is not simply that mistakes were made, but that there was systematic exploitation that should not be waved away as mere failings to be discussed abstractly, but as lessons to apply to our current dealings with surviving (and even thriving) Indian nations today. brine Again, you ignore that Indian groups were just as hostile and exploitative towards other Indian groups. Kevin Malone I don’t know if that’s the case (as in, I am not knowledgeable on the subject). That’s why I brought up the Perces and their relations not only with non-Indians but other Indian nations around them, as their example colors what little understanding I do have. In other words, I was genuinely asking for your input on that example, not trying to trap you into a corner. Kevin Malone Also, I do not think it is fair to wave away my sources as “revisionist pie in the sky history” simply because its arguments are not as favorable toward conventional American understandings. What would be your idea of a fairer treatment of the Nez Perces War? Since I am researching the topic your book suggestions would be helpful. Magnus Eriksson lol. Magnus Eriksson Did you know that Cortez conqistadores raped all indian women before baptizing them? That way they could cleanse the women from sin caused by the rape through the baptize. Im sure God was happy for that, as the conquistadores and the indian women. brine All kinds of ‘Christian’ in name only did terrible things…and real Christians aren’t perfect in their actions…but if you want to pick and choose..largest killers of all is the religious group known as ‘humanists’….Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Ho Chi Min….etc.etc. etc. Magnus Eriksson Stalin was a priest. Hitler appealed to a lot of christians and used God alot in his speeches and writings. Martin Luther was one of the worst jew haters in european history, and legitimized the atrocities known as holocaust. brine Hitler tried to utilize Catholicsim to push his humanist agenda. Stalin was a social Darwinist. Here’s your humanist death toll Pre-Hitler Germany/Hitler and the Nazis WWI: 20,000,000 dead, 21,000,000 wounded WWII: 72,000,000 Holocaust: 17,000,000? (estimates range from 7 to 26 million) Leon Trotsky and Vladimir Lenin Bolshevik revolution and Russian Civil War: 15,000,000 Joseph Stalin 20,000,000 Mao Zedong 14,000,000–20,000,000 Pol Pot (Saloth Sar) 750,000–1,700,000 Magnus Eriksson Sorry. Your numbers are all wrong. Dont know what sources you use, but you should look into more reliable stuff. Gerner&Karlsson or Hagtvet wrote more realistic stuff about genocide. Maybe look into that instead. Also, calling Stalin, Pol-Pot, Mao and Hitlers humanists are a bit over the top. Dont you think? Hitler was clearly a Christian, as many others in the NSDAP was. Hitler was very clear on this in Mein Kampf. You are very uninformed. Im sorry for that. Jon Sorry to say but Hitler was not really a Christian, just because he was baptized and “confirmed” as a child by the catholic church does not make him a Christian. When he was an adult, he did not believe in the Judeo-Christian form of God which means he is not a christian. Magnus Eriksson Oh… I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2 Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5 Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace smiled on His ungrateful children. – Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7 I had so often sung ‘Deutschland über Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5 Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace smiled on His ungrateful children. – Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7 What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8 But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10 In short, the results of miscegenation are always the following: (a) The level of the superior race becomes lowered; (b) physical and mental degeneration sets in, thus leading slowly but steadily towards a progressive drying up of the vital sap. The act which brings about such a development is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator. And as a sin this act will be avenged. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11 Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1 It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god. – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 2 “I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.” -Hitler 1933 “I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.” -Hitler “Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.” – Hitler “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”-Hitler And here is some external sources besides Hitlers own verifications of himself as a christian… http://www.nobeliefs.com/speeches.htm http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm The Clockwork Being Magnus I think what they meant is that you can call yourself a Christian all you want but if you don’t practice it you really aren’t. I mean look at Hitler. He killed millions but still claims to be christian. Just to add that a lot of people use religion to convince. Look at Al-Queada. Just saying they are muslims and killing millions. Yet lots of people are ignorant and believe that the majority of Muslims are like this. Magnus Eriksson Thats a very important point you are touching upon, and I couldnt agree more. Although I would put it a bit different. There are good muslims, and evil muslims. There are good christians, and evil christians. There are good atheists, and evil atheists. There are good communists, and evil communists. There are good liberals, and evil liberals and so on. I could never accept a definition of christianity equals goodness, thats simply not true. There are alot of evil christians out there. Of course that goes for the opposite too, it doesnt equal with evil either. There are many good christians out there too. The Clockwork Being Good point Magnus. Clel Wut o_O Magnus Eriksson Yup, horrible isnt it? Mario If a Christian committed such astrociidies, then that person is not even a true Christian to begin with. Magnus Eriksson Thats true. But who is really a true christian? Anders Behring Breivik who murdered alot of kids in a norwegian summercamp was a christian. It provided him with the thought system that could legitimize the murderers. The same goes for Hitler or alot of others thinking they was doing Gods work. Mario Exactly! Jon He wasn’t a Christian, he may have been baptized and confirmed as a child in the catholic church however as an adult, he did not believe in the Judeo-Christian form of God. Therefore he was not a christian. Magnus Eriksson You shouldn seek out wikipedia for confirming your own beliefs. Hitler was a christian. A devoted christian. Maybe the truth hurts for christians, but its still the truth. Mario Okay. I agree with you there. So far, from I heard about him, he and his men pretty much destroyed an entire civilization. Shota “God has blessed America more than any nation on this each” You sound like a underdog from a american government. Magnus Eriksson People who think like that are very dangerous. They can justify the most horrendous crimes possible. Mario Just America? What about the rest of the world!? Mario Dude, I’m fine with anyone who have good hearts. Including Native Americans. Magnus Eriksson … some abuse of indians? SOME ABUSE? It was a genocide. Its like saying that Hitler made some abuse towards the jews, or Stalin made some abuse against the ukrainians, or the turks made some abuse against the armenians. It was a slaughter. NintenScience STFU Daniel Gonzalez Good reason for not celebrating a holiday that is part of America’s dark history. Most Americans will deny this fact or pretend it never happened. 😛 Kevin Malone If my recall correctly, for Thanksgiving I like the spirit in which it was conceived and that the small group of pilgrims and Indians who shared in it at the earliest were genuinely kind to each other (it was the following generations of pilgrims who soured relations with the Indian nation who shared their festival of “thanksgiving”). For that reason, this holiday leaves something to be aspired to. I do not get the same feeling with Columbus Day. For that I am with Matthew Inman about changing it to Bartolomé Day: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day The Clockwork Being Read this and I agreed to everything. I don’t celebrate Columbus day since i am canadian. But honestly we should change this Bartolomé day. But with how the US is, they would throw ape shit because they would be celebrating a ”Christian man”. asdfg Kinda off topic, but you changed your avatar and now my brain thinks you are a new person. Daniel Gonzalez Most people who comment were off topic to begin with, so I saw no reason to stick to it. Off topic yourself come to think of it. Nah, same person. You’ll get used to the avatar change. asdfg No, I said my comment was off topic, not yours. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Daniel Gonzalez Ahh. Okay then. I apologize for that. nexxus6 If you are so ashamed of how America originated, donate all your belongings, property, and the like to the Native Americans. This happened in numerous countries where the more powerful people have muscled out the native population. I am not saying it is something to beat your chest about, but you can’t put a modern spin on events that happened centuries ago. Daniel Gonzalez Well my friend. I just did. So I guess I can. No offense of course. Also, I am part Native American, so I do donate to charities from time to time when the occasion calls for it. Yes, I am ashamed of how America was founded, but that doesn’t I hate the country today. I hate when people try to ignore the history. 🙂 Point is that America has a dark history to it, and schools should really teach it, instead of acting like it never existed. Also, no one was putting a modern spin on what happened centuries ago, cause stuff like this still happens today. 😛 nexxus6 No one is denying anything. Every nation has a so called “dark history”, and it is taught in schools. Public schools nowadays do everything they can to focus on all the “wrongs” of America. I just love how people, maybe not you exactly, sit in the comfort in their home with all their luxuries and blast everything that happened in the past. No one complains about what transpired centuries ago as they fish in all the lakes, hunt on all the land, and drive down miles of highway. Only when it is convenient do people try to play the guilt card. It is so fake that it is sickening. Politics and policies were so vastly different back then that you can’t use viewpoints of today to try to understand and rationalize what happened. My wife’s family is part Native American, and they do not view Thanksgiving as some horrible holiday that we should be ashamed to celebrate. Ernesto Perez Native Americans throughout America (as in both North and South America) went through similar fates as a result of the arrival of Europeans. Therefore, the US isn’t the only country to put the blame on. Magnus Eriksson Of course not. You are absolutely right. Mario Agree. nexxus6 Wasn’t it Europeans who decided to gas millions of people back in the 1940’s? Wow, and you mean there was ethnic cleansing in Bosnia as recent as the 1990’s. You would think that Europe was so civilized and advanced compared to us barbaric Americans. lilmc01 well arent you just a ray of sunshine. Guest And I hope all Europeans will likewise remember that all white Americans were originally Europeans who likewise generally all did the same sort of thing to much of the world for like the better of 400 years. Hell, even some Native American tribes sought for ethnic cleansing of other tribes and sacrificed their own people for rituals (the pre-Columbian cultures were especially brutal), and the top-tier black African tribes who sold their warring captives as black slaves. Shoot, I guess no one’s clean, really. Well…fuck. 😛 Magnus Eriksson Yeah, true. On the other hand I dont celebrate things like the holocaust, holodomor, inquisition or the murder of naitive europeans with some quasi myth trying to cover european history. I think people should be critical towards things like that. Cdwoods I’m not sure that’s what thanksgiving is celebrating. Yes, I know all the death happened and I’m part Native American so I definantly am not in favor of what happened. What happened was terrible and we should be ashamed about it, but I think thanksgiving is for a different purpose then to celebrate that. Magnus Eriksson Oh, ok. Im sure about that. It is excactly what the Thanksgiving is about. Its a myth that serves to legitimize a cruel history of ethnic cleansing, genocide and theft. http://www.manataka.org/page269.html Cdwoods Wow.. Well then… I don’t know how to respond. That’s really depressing and I really hate thanksgiving now. Magnus Eriksson Sorry man. But the truth is more important. Cdwoods Yes,it is. I’m actually not too sad to know more info to be honest. Mario So in other words, no one’s perfect. Including me. Magnus Eriksson I played your last game. Pretty perfect 😉 nexxus6 What is the point of your post? Just be happy America exists, because all you Europeans would be goose-stepping right about now. Magnus Eriksson Yeah, yeah, yeah… is this what they teach in american schools? nexxus6 Truth hurts, doesn’t it? nexxus6 If only you knew what the basis of the Thanksgiving holiday was about. SamusPrime Says the guy who is on a website of a product that he owns, and is manufactured in a country that during WWII committed thousands of atrocites against other people. You may not like celebrating holidays that celebrate atrocities, but you are ok purchasing products from them. How about a little consistency. Magnus Eriksson Lets hold hands and sing kum-bah-yah instead of this enemity of yours. SamusPrime Maybe you should have just ingorned this topic, but you chose not to. You felt that you needed to educate us “dumb Americans.” It’s not my fault that you tried the “I’m better than you approach”, Only to have me point out that you aren’t consistent in your opinion. Better to be a fool and remain quiet than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. And for the record, what we did to the Native Americans and what the Japanese did during WWII were both awful, but I still celebrate Thanksgiving and buy Nintendo products. That must make me worse than Hitler. Magnus Eriksson Americans nuked the japanese just to test the effects of nuclear radiation on human guinea pigs. And murdered the vietnamese, the koreans, iraqies and afghans in wars that was not yours. 🙂 SamusPrime Just remember how evil we are the next time you are sucking down a Coca-Cola. Magnus Eriksson I dont drink Cola, im more of a beer guy. And I dont think americans are evil either. Many of my best friends are americans, and they are great people. Sorry if I gave you the impression that I hate on americans. Never intended that. SamusPrime No apology required. I never thought that. Lusunup Happy Thanksgiving to you also! 🙂 Maxwell Baumgarten Lol I was playing ac4 too when I saw this article thecoolmana777 Although I’m from England Happy Thanksgiving to all you Americans, you have provided us with Amazon’s Black Friday sales, without any fuss the day before- thanks 😀 Brian Lockett lol Hey, just send me back some authentic delicious Cheddar cheese from Cheddar as thanks! 😀 Magnus Eriksson Ooooh…. cheddar. Going to make myself some burgers. Kevin Malone To be more on topic, I am spending today playing A Link Between Worlds. Has anyone else here played it? Love those treasure hunts, and the Turtle Rock and Dark Temple bosses are my favorite so far. Alexander Kleinwechter I guess i should be happy for you american’s. Happy thanksgiving master race 😉 Mario Hey trust me, I’m not American. Kamon happy thanksgiving! ZeldaFanzzzz Happy Thanksgiving!!! Jesus Eduardo Lara Ortiz The only way I’m celebrating that is… by Animal Crossing New Leaf xD DragonSilths Meh, us Canadians had ours last month. Brian Lockett You and your ham merely called “bacon!” lol DragonSilths Had Turkey not ham. And ham is ham, bacon is bacon. If you were a Canadian you wouldn’t know that. kevin nun—- Thanks for your hard world WiiUDaily. Blessings. Sylux Happy thanksgiving. I’ll join the American style from the Netherlands, watching Raiders vs Cowboys live on Fox while in the meanwhile I’ll play me some Zelda a Link between worlds. Brian Lockett Wow. You picked a game between the two teams I all-in-good-fun-totally-hate the most. Sorry–a Broncos and Eagles fan here! xD Sylux Haha no fan at all of American Football here we do have some teams in the Netherlands, 2 teams in Amsterdam even I believe and some others, but it’s not living as much here in the Netherlands then it is alive in the US. Here in the Netherlands Soccer is far more alive then Football, it just happened to be the thanksgiving match available in the Netherlands on Fox and not much else on either so decided to take a look at it. The only one on the standard Fox channel. First time for me so in all fairness I didn’t really understand the rules of the game 🙁 But hearing the commentaries it seemed to be a pretty exciting match Cowboys won, not sure if that is a good thing either. lilmc01 i love how this post became an argument saying how horrible thanksgiving is. DarkLegacy Happy Thanksgiving! Zuxs13 Happy Thanksgiving ETeach America definitely has a checkered past, some good things, some terrible things, but growing up in this country, I’ve never experienced the denial other people were talking about earlier. The white settlers did some terrible things to the native Americans, but we were taught all of this in school, and in the media. Thanksgiving, rather, is about the story of these two people with little nothing in common getting aloung. Whether that story has any truth to it or not is debatable, but it’s an ideal we should all strive for, whether we own WiiUs, PS4s, XBox1s or PCs. iamserious Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Zorpix HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE :3 be it thanksgiving, or just another day Mario Mario: Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Arthur Jarret I’m really torn between Assassins creed 4… Will I go for the best graphics and online gameplay and get the PC version? Or will I go for the gimped graphics, no online but extra story content DLC of the Playstation 4 version? Luckily, a resolution to my conundrum is available: Just play Mario 3D world instead… AlxFry The ratio of visitors from the united states vs. rest of the world would be interesting to see. I’m sure you have some tracking back-end. Would you be inclined to post such statistics? <3 Alexander Kleinwechter Happy thanksgiving! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sms7GxCcIg Nigga happy thanksgiving my nigga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7lWMouDh8 Laurent Rockwell Happy saint nicolas’s day Adrian Brown stop calling yourselves “Americans”.. you are not the only ones living in this big continent starwars360 No new news articles for Wii U??????????????????????