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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    Popular opinion =/= safe.

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    OoT was the first Zelda game I really played and finished. It made me a fan of the series, and it's what started me feeling like Zelda is my favorite franchise. So it was really huge for me, too. But I'm willing to admit they've outdone it since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodenSaucer View Post
    OoT was the first Zelda game I really played and finished. It made me a fan of the series, and it's what started me feeling like Zelda is my favorite franchise. So it was really huge for me, too. But I'm willing to admit they've outdone it since then.
    I wasn't trying to put together an objective ranking; I pretty much hang out in the subjective realm unless forced otherwise. That's why I enjoy reviewing things

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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    I wasn't trying to put together an objective ranking; I pretty much hang out in the subjective realm unless forced otherwise. That's why I enjoy reviewing things

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    I know, man. I'm just telling you your subjective opinion is wrong.
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    Congrats, I tried on five separate occasions to finish it. Just couldn't do it, game frustrated me too much in almost every way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpd01 View Post
    Congrats, I tried on five separate occasions to finish it. Just couldn't do it, game frustrated me too much in almost every way.
    Yeeowza, at least you gave it a fair shake.
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    What I find interesting about the story in Skyward Sword is that Hyrule is nowhere to be found...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    What I find interesting about the story in Skyward Sword is that Hyrule is nowhere to be found...
    Been awhile since I played it, but as I recall Skyloft was a chunk of Hyrule set in the sky, correct?

    Also I may have to get the SS Link Amiibo. I would like more variations though from other games. I thought the Zora armor from TP was pretty neat visually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Been awhile since I played it, but as I recall Skyloft was a chunk of Hyrule set in the sky, correct?

    Also I may have to get the SS Link Amiibo. I would like more variations though from other games. I thought the Zora armor from TP was pretty neat visually.
    If I remember right, at the end of the game...




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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Been awhile since I played it, but as I recall Skyloft was a chunk of Hyrule set in the sky, correct?
    Skykoft was a piece of "the surface" but the surface never had a name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    Skykoft was a piece of "the surface" but the surface never had a name.
    Right, the surface of Hyrule. I thought was kind of a given.

    I mean, it's obviously not Narnia or Mars or whatever, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodenSaucer View Post
    That's a really jacked up list, man. I'm not completely sure where I'd put BotW yet, but I think out of those games, my list would be more like:

    1. BotW
    2. SS
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    I had to put Minish Cap in there because it's better than a couple you listed. I'd probably even rather play that turd Phantom Hourglass than Majora's Mask.


    What games do you already have for the Wii U?
    Pretty much anything worth a damn, and a few that are just ok, and a couple that are pretty bad. I buy more games than I have time to play, except now I have time to play.

    Maybe I'll work on Disney Infinity 3, I certainly bought enough crap for that game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Right, the surface of Hyrule. I thought was kind of a given.

    I mean, it's obviously not Narnia or Mars or whatever, right?
    Actually I thought it was Middle Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    Skykoft was a piece of "the surface" but the surface never had a name.
    I think they did that so people would imagine what it ends up becoming in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    Actually I thought it was Middle Earth.
    Here I was thinking it was LoompaLand.

    On topic, I still need to play through Skyward Sword one of these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aMarioFan64 View Post
    Here I was thinking it was LoompaLand.

    On topic, I still need to play through Skyward Sword one of these days.
    Once you get past all the unnecessary clutter it's a very good game.

    The first hour or so is melodramatic nonsense that strives to be serious but for all intents and purposes is an Archie comic, except Archie is better written.
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    I really didn't like this game. If you are asking me to do something precise with motion controls, your motion controls better be precise....it wasn't. Also how many times am I going to have to fight the imprisoned? Once was good but the 15th time, I had enough. Some parts were cool, like the flying on the avatar birds...and that creepy bathroom hand.
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    Nobody likes the creepy bathroom hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    The first hour or so is melodramatic nonsense that strives to be serious but for all intents and purposes is an Archie comic, except Archie is better written.
    I'm actually a big fan of the intro and Skyloft. I enjoy the game's setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    I'm actually a big fan of the intro and Skyloft. I enjoy the game's setup.
    I did appreciate the relationship between Link and Zelda; that part was actually really cool for me. What I didn't care for was running around basically running errands and talking to idiots to get there. I think the sword training was clunky but necessary. All the crap with the missing bird, the pseudo religious stuff, the missing bird, Link oversleeping, I think you had to catch a cat... for me that's just padding.

    When I buy a new game I like to get right down to it as soon as possible. Anything that gets in the way irritates me.

    I think SS could have handled that part much better. I appreciate the need to bring new players up to speed, but I've been playing LoZ since the first one, and it would be nice if Nintendo gave us some credit, you know?

    If the tutorial and options were handled better it would be a different matter.

    When I play an LoZ game I expect to have the story flow in an organic matter rather than being forced to sit through large chunks of dialogue before I can proceed. That's bad storytelling and bad game design. And it's not just me and my dislike for unnecessary exposition; this is a common complaint with the series.

    I think SS did a lot of stuff right; I enjoyed playing it and this thread has made me consider giving it a replay. Thank you for that.

    That said, the way the first hour or so was handled was a huge turn off for me. I'm glad you enjoyed it though.

    For me, I value strong gameplay (which SS does have, eventually) over what amounts to teenage melodrama and bad fanfic.

    Nintendo has many strengths, but writing a good story isn't one of them IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Nobody likes the creepy bathroom hand.
    How dare you? In my CNA days I'd give anything for that to be real!!!! Why wouldn't you want a toilet that wipes for you?
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    How dare you? In my CNA days I'd give anything for that to be real!!!! Why wouldn't you want a toilet that wipes for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    I did appreciate the relationship between Link and Zelda; that part was actually really cool for me. What I didn't care for was running around basically running errands and talking to idiots to get there. I think the sword training was clunky but necessary. All the crap with the missing bird, the pseudo religious stuff, the missing bird, Link oversleeping, I think you had to catch a cat... for me that's just padding.

    When I buy a new game I like to get right down to it as soon as possible. Anything that gets in the way irritates me.

    I think SS could have handled that part much better. I appreciate the need to bring new players up to speed, but I've been playing LoZ since the first one, and it would be nice if Nintendo gave us some credit, you know?

    If the tutorial and options were handled better it would be a different matter.

    When I play an LoZ game I expect to have the story flow in an organic matter rather than being forced to sit through large chunks of dialogue before I can proceed. That's bad storytelling and bad game design. And it's not just me and my dislike for unnecessary exposition; this is a common complaint with the series.

    I think SS did a lot of stuff right; I enjoyed playing it and this thread has made me consider giving it a replay. Thank you for that.

    That said, the way the first hour or so was handled was a huge turn off for me. I'm glad you enjoyed it though.

    For me, I value strong gameplay (which SS does have, eventually) over what amounts to teenage melodrama and bad fanfic.

    Nintendo has many strengths, but writing a good story isn't one of them IMO.
    I don't mind slower, story driven intros because for me it adds weight to what happens in the game's story; it makes you care about the characters. I get that you're saying you like story too and just don't like fluff, but I'm also fine with a 60 second "fetch the cat" quest to help you learn how to run up a wall, grab a ledge, and shimmy.

    To be fair to Skyward Sword, there were some new and unique gameplay mechanics and button layouts that weren't all present in older Zelda games, even for folks like you who have played Zelda from the first one. So a little introduction to the new stuff ain't all that bad.

    Having said that, gamers like ourselves would have figured that stuff out pretty quickly on our own.
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    oh and it remind me! Skyward sword is the only one you can save in specific place, like Majora's mask!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Link_16_hit View Post
    oh and it remind me! Skyward sword is the only one you can save in specific place, like Majora's mask!
    I did like that feature quite a bit, especially since the areas were so huge it'd be a pain to start at the beginning each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cThreep View Post
    I don't mind slower, story driven intros because for me it adds weight to what happens in the game's story; it makes you care about the characters. I get that you're saying you like story too and just don't like fluff, but I'm also fine with a 60 second "fetch the cat" quest to help you learn how to run up a wall, grab a ledge, and shimmy.

    To be fair to Skyward Sword, there were some new and unique gameplay mechanics and button layouts that weren't all present in older Zelda games, even for folks like you who have played Zelda from the first one. So a little introduction to the new stuff ain't all that bad.

    Having said that, gamers like ourselves would have figured that stuff out pretty quickly on our own.
    That's a good point about the controls. One of my issues with tutorials, besides being too sluggish, is that a lot of games don't have a refresher or quick reference guide, and modern games tend to be fairly complex. For me especially, I tend to start a game and maybe not be able to get back to it right away. When I pick it up again I don't remember all the control nuances and guess what? They are only found in a tutorial!

    As I recall TP and SS are pretty good about that, but that's sort of the exception, you know? That sort of thing is one of the reasons I miss physical manuals. If I have an hour of game time I'd rather not spend it re-learning how to charge jump or whatever, especially when better options exist.

    Something Monster Hunter does well is teaching you how to use weapons. There is an arena/dojo where you can try out say a bowgun or a lance under certain conditions, and it's entirely optional. If you don't want to learn how to use a Switch axe, than you don't have to sit through a lesson. I like the practicality of that.

    I always like a retrospective look at slightly older games, removed from the hype, controversy, what have you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Nobody likes the creepy bathroom hand.

    Everyone loves bathroom hand.
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    I came here to ask why you beat up Skyward Sword.


    ... Then I realized 25 people already asked that. You guys suck!

    Especially you, Z.T.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cloud Strife View Post
    I came here to ask why you beat up Skyward Sword.


    ... Then I realized 25 people already asked that. You guys suck!

    Especially you, Z.T.!

    That's what you get for ditching us for a long time.
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    Skyward Sword is my favorite Zelda. Played through it twice, once at launch and once right before Breath of the Wild came out.

    Ancient Cistern is a standout dungeon with a killer boss battle. I think Skyward Sword has the best combat, dungeons, boss fights, Zelda/Link characterization/relationship story motivation. I enjoyed that you didn't have a big empty world but a goal in mind where you were trying to figure out how to get there/ environmental puzzles that blurred the line between dungeon and overworld. I enjoyed the Silent realms and even tadtone searching.

    Breath of the Wild is a different beast, dungeons and boss fights are definitely not as good as Skyward Sword and those are usually the main things I use to compare Zelda games. Zelda is more whiny and less likeable in Breath of the Wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaisedinsd View Post
    Skyward Sword is my favorite Zelda. Played through it twice, once at launch and once right before Breath of the Wild came out.

    Ancient Cistern is a standout dungeon with a killer boss battle. I think Skyward Sword has the best combat, dungeons, boss fights, Zelda/Link characterization/relationship story motivation. I enjoyed that you didn't have a big empty world but a goal in mind where you were trying to figure out how to get there/ environmental puzzles that blurred the line between dungeon and overworld. I enjoyed the Silent realms and even tadtone searching.

    Breath of the Wild is a different beast, dungeons and boss fights are definitely not as good as Skyward Sword and those are usually the main things I use to compare Zelda games. Zelda is more whiny and less likeable in Breath of the Wild.
    BotW owes a lot to the first game. If it ain't broke....
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    BotW owes a lot to the first game. If it ain't broke....
    BotW owes just as much, if not more to Skyward Sword.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlamingFury View Post
    BotW owes just as much, if not more to Skyward Sword.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blaisedinsd View Post
    Skyward Sword is my favorite Zelda. Played through it twice, once at launch and once right before Breath of the Wild came out.

    Ancient Cistern is a standout dungeon with a killer boss battle. I think Skyward Sword has the best combat, dungeons, boss fights, Zelda/Link characterization/relationship story motivation. I enjoyed that you didn't have a big empty world but a goal in mind where you were trying to figure out how to get there/ environmental puzzles that blurred the line between dungeon and overworld. I enjoyed the Silent realms and even tadtone searching.

    Breath of the Wild is a different beast, dungeons and boss fights are definitely not as good as Skyward Sword and those are usually the main things I use to compare Zelda games. Zelda is more whiny and less likeable in Breath of the Wild.
    It was my favorite, too. Since BotW came out, I'm not sure which is my favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlamingFury View Post
    BotW owes just as much, if not more to Skyward Sword.


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    No sir.
    It takes cues from both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    It takes cues from both.

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    Which one came first?

    There you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    Which one came first?

    There you go.
    Skyward Sword

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    Well, here's what this thread will devolve into soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aMarioFan64 View Post
    Well, here's what this thread will devolve into soon...

    You forgot Phantom Hourglass

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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    Skyward Sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
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    I'm gonna replay Skyward Sword again soon.
    Hopefully it will go better this time. I struggled badly with calibrating last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodenSaucer View Post
    Don't get him started on the timeline.
    What timeline? The one a bunch of nerds lashed together with duct tape and chicken wire and insists it's a real thing, so fervently that Nintendo figured they might as well exploit the rubes and publish the monstrosity?

    That timeline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    What timeline? The one a bunch of nerds lashed together with duct tape and chicken wire and insists it's a real thing, so fervently that Nintendo figured they might as well exploit the rubes and publish the monstrosity?

    That timeline?
    I still believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodenSaucer View Post
    I still believe
    I know you do, cupcake.

    If it makes you feel better I believe in UFOS.

    See? We both believe in something completely nonsensical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    I know you do, cupcake.

    If it makes you feel better I believe in UFOS.

    See? We both believe in something completely nonsensical.
    Aliens aren't nonsensical. The universe is big. Thinking we're the only ones is nonsensical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    Aliens aren't nonsensical. The universe is big. Thinking we're the only ones is nonsensical.

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    I was trying to make Woody feel better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savinghyrule View Post
    Aliens aren't nonsensical. The universe is big. Thinking we're the only ones is nonsensical.

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    The part that's more nonsensical is thinking they have the means and interest to travel light years to the earth to hover around and give us light shows and anal probes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew79 View Post
    I was trying to make Woody feel better.
    Maybe you should try searching some more for that decent gloryhole gif?
    THIS MAN IS WANTED FOR POST SEASON FOOTBALL AND DOCTOR WHO DISCUSSIONS AMONGST OTHERS THINGS DRAG HIM BACK KICKING AND SCREAMING IF YOU MUST!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeldatrek View Post
    Maybe you should try searching some more for that decent gloryhole gif?

    Your mom hasn't got back to me yet.
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