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    Let's talk about "rap!"

    I'm a pretty avid hip-hop fan(as my intro thread implies), but I hate so much of the rap that gets pushed by the media. I honestly don't consider a lot of mainstream hip-hop good music.

    Actually, before I go on, lemme say this: "rap" is a placeholder term. Hip-hop is a genre. If you take a "rap" song and remove the lyrics, then is it still a "rap" song? No, it's not. The music is still there. The hip-hop song can fall into a subgenre depending on the rapper though. It's like if you made a rock song without a singer- it's still rock, but throw a pop singer on that bitch and it's pop rock. Moving on.

    It's not that I don't like the occasional banger. A good banger is always a joy. However, too much chocolate can get one sick, as is the case with the mainstream hip-hop scene. Rappers on trap beats are on the radio like pimples; rappers talking about their "past," or present, as a drug dealer(because that's something you tell the public, right?), rappers acting like tough guys all the time(Drake popularized the anti-thesis for this, but he sucks, so meh), rappers who CAN'T ####ING RAP!!!! Holy hot hell, just WHYY!!!!

    '05 L'il Wayne, a disgrace to New Orleans imo, made me look at old-school rap because I didn't think that there existed good modern rap until I heard Nas' Hip-Hop is Dead album. Nicki Minaj made me look for actual good female rappers(which I found, but now idgaf because gender doesn't matter to me). Then, I discovered one of my favorite rappers of all time- MF DOOM, who intro'd me to the underground rap scene.

    Anyway, that's it for me. Anything to add to the discussion? Artists? Personal rap-listening experiences? Love rap? Hate rap? I won't hold it against you(trust me, I will COMPLETELY understand if you hate rap). TELL ME! >



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    I don't like rap...seriously! Because I heard so much time (in bus or whatever) (but Bad rap or rap with some "!$!"%!" words)

    But only 1 rap theme I love...and it is!!!:


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    You'd probably LOVE Dan Bull then. His main schtick is video game rap, and he's great at wordplay. Check him out on YouTube!

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    Yeah MF Doom is great. You've no doubt heard his collab album with danger mouse? As for rap Im all over the place. Lots of underground shit, some mainstream and lots of the good old school.



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    i was listening to rob sonic yesterday but i dont listen to much of it

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    Okay, I'll play this game.

    I'm from MN, and actually we have a pretty substantial underground scene. Atmosphere, P.O.S. (Promise of Stress), Eyedea, Brother Ali, Doomtree (which is a group that consists of a female rapper, Dessa, I might add)...oh man, the list keeps going.

    I hope I don't come off as a hipster, but Atmosphere really is a great group (I liked them before the hipsters took credit for them - does that make me a super hipster?). They have a ton of great songs, with my personal favorites being Free or Dead, God Loves Ugly, 1597, and Scapegoat. Oh, and F*ck You Lucy is great too. The newer stuff has it's place, but I prefer the older stuff before anybody knew who they were outside of the Rollerblading scene (I have a bunch of friends that happen to be Rollerblading nerds).

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    *gasp* I LOVE Brother Ali and Eyedea! (^_^)

    Don't let anyone tell you that you're a hipster. Let the sheep graze in the GMO fields until they want to be herded to more natural pastures, I say.

    Edit: I'd like to know what you mean "I will play this game."
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    yeah I used to dig atmosphere quite a bit before I became to hipster for them. I dont really listen to rap a whole bunch like I used to in my thug days but there are a few songs that I'll like and put on repeat.


    Im really into instrumentals though. Nujabes and DJ okawari create the soundtrack to my life.



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    I apologize to Rugmouse, but you just officially became my favorite person on this thread.

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    lol I don't really know...I was more or less saying I would roll the sleeves up and write down some of my favorite underground artists. It was kind of like a game trying to isolate all the MN ones. Gotta represent the home town!

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    Lots of people know Nujabes but I hardly ever meet anyone who knows DJ okawari. Fist bump yo



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    In all seriousness, I ain't a rap fan, but as you pointed out in the start of the thread, what I mostly dislike is the mainstream garbage that the genre is known for. I know there's good rap out there, and some of it I can stand, but for the most part it's not for me.


    However, I absolutely adore rap in a hybrid genre, in the case of Red Hot Chili Peppers and Rage Against the Machine. Those bands are amazing.
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    Alright. It was kinda weird how you put it. Caught me off-guard a little bit.

    Yeah, NO/LA doesn't have much to speak of when it comes to rap. L'il Wayne's a joke. Jay Electronica's good though.

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    Yeah man, Rage is the shit.



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    Yo yo yo.... I'm funny. I hop higher.... Than a bunny!
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    'Til you hop on my corner and get swarmed, honey. And become the opposite of a stand-up joke; now that's funny.

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    Most of what's on the radio, yes.

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    Agreed, mainstream rap/hip hop is utter crap. I never followed the actual rap scene so don't listen to any modern rap. I love the classics though. Easy-E, Dre, Snoop, Biggie, Tupac, 3-6 Mafia. There's others, just don't feel naming them lol




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    Would you hate me if I said I didn't like Easy-E, Dre(as a rapper), Snoop, or 3-6 Mafia?

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    I don't listen to rap unless it's in the form of two people humiliating each other.
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    I'm a huge fan aswell, we'll I should say, used to be. I'm an older head so I was fortunate to see it's birth, and watch it evolve into what it is today. I mostly listen to older stuff (80's-90's), when lyrism was the bread and butter. In the present I barely listen to any Hip-Hop, except for a few underground cats, reason being underground is where lyrism still thrives. The radio stuff is garbage and doesn't hold my attention, minus a select few lyricist who get air play (Nas, Jay, etc). Hip-Hop lost it's soul once the labels realised there was a market for it and turned it into a money machine. To be honest, I haven't listened to rap for the past two years. I got burnt out, I was heavy in the scene working with a few acts (some of which you mentioned) and just the grind and how the industry moves put a sour taste in my mouth. So, I'm back to basics, tending to my family and enjoying MY life. If I'm being totally honest, I know it's just a matter of time before I get back into the scene some way shape or form, behind the scenes. I also can tell by the way you structure your bars, wordplay, methapors, and punchlines you're an Emcee in real life. ( of atleast write on the regular). So I'm curious as to who you roll with, or your Emcee name. We might of crossed paths. I'm blown away this topic came up on Wii Forums, lol, but I'm digging it.
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    i dont like any kind of rap, period. its my least fav genre. who ever invented rap should be ashamed of themselves, and i have no respect for them.


    why are we talking about rap on a wii u forum? i figured this kind of talk should be on a playstation forum or xbox forum lol.

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    if thats how you wanna play, then i will have no problem expressing my hate for rap then, because i really really hate rap..

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    I don't have any names but sometimes I like the hip hop that sounds like the MC reads the thesaurus so that he can properly diss other MCs. Old school stuff, mostly. The Jurassic Five comes to mind with some stuff they did with DJ Shadow. The music has to have a groove to it or else I'm not interested. Sampling '70s funk is always good.

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    I don't listen to new rap hell I couldn't tell you half of these new rappers.

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    It wasn't created by one person, so I'm guessing you have no respect for inner city people seeing as it was how it got it's start. Infact it was created as a way to keep kids off the street by giving them a place to come together for something positive.( house parties). It's ok to voice your dislikefor something, but when you generalize without having knowledge on the subject you look ingnorant. You get a pass, being that I'm sure your younger and are basing your words off what MTV has shown you.
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    It's a lounge, an area where one can talk about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. Period. End of story. Done.

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    So my name is wonder mike and I'd like to say hello, to all the blacks the whites the reds the browns he purple and yellow!
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    I used to write poetry, but I stopped because I creeped the living **** out of a few people very close to me, myself included. It was intended to be a "living journal," but I was really unstable and it was during a REALLY hard time in my life, so as I let go of the emotions that were still clinging, I didn't want to keep those stanzas as a reminder. I can write bars if I really want to, but I have nothing to prove. I have hope for hip-hop though. There's a few standout individuals in the underground who can REALLY play with words and I seriously recommend checking out:

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    Well except for and but everything else is fair game.
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    It's a wonder why you touch the mike, hence that uncreative name
    You drop the bars all on the ground despite your lack of claim to fame
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    I've heard or Logic and listen to MF DOOM, but the others I'll have to check out. Have you listened to Army of the Pharoes before? The crew is decent, but Reef the Lost Cauze, King Magnetic, Esoteric,& Apathy are the main reasons I listen to them. Check em out if you haven't already. Another cat I'm feeling is R.A. The Rugged Man. That dude is a MONSTER!
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    I'm bout to end this mans whole career.

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    That spoof had me DYING when I first saw it..lmao!
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