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    Waluigi isn't playable.

    Second hand purchase or rental for me. This is unacceptable.

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    Where are the new games? Large roster aside it's nothing new and will be built on the Wii U version.

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    This is false.
    They have already said this is built from the ground up.
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    Using no assets from previous builds? Call me suspicious!

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    What's wrong with using previous assets?
    Majora's Mask probably used 90% of assets from Ocarina of Time, so do you call that a port?
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    A new game using an old engine is still a new game. The new Smash is much the same as the old Smash. Unless it offers something radical what is it's purpose? I guess you could argue it is an HD Smash but then Nintendo don't want just to put it out as another "Deluxe" edition. The Wii version was the last great one.

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    Because they have reworked everything. The mechanics and speed are different, the lightning engine is new, there's new textures and stages like Eldin Bridge and Kongo Jungle looks amazing, some characters have gotten new move sets and tweaks, pretty much all the character models are brand new and this game has every fighter ever and probably will have every stage ever made as well (Except for Miiverse, since it's shut down). It also has a bunch of new items, assist trophies and Pokémon.

    Brawl sucked, btw.
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    This is a new game. It looks better than the last Smash Bros. Stages are coming back that we haven't seen since Melee & even the original game on N64. Every single character is coming back to the game, and Sakurai is even adding in a few new characters. Characters are getting reworks, small and big. Link's bomb now has to be detonated. He can fire 2 arrows at once. He can throw his arrows. His boomerang reaches across almost the entire map. They changed up his jab combo. Mario now has a scary fast jump. Ganondorf is much, much faster than he was in the last game. Pokemon Trainer- Squirtle in particular is much more agile than he ever was in Brawl. Zelda's Dark Knight now has delay, which means you can set up into it. Shulk's Monado Arts can now be switched much more easily (very appreciated as a Shulk main, as I was constantly pressing B to cancel/switch arts). I could go on and on, but those are just some of the changes I noticed. And so far we only know of 3 new characters, but Sakurai might even add more in. On top of all of that, they are changing the mechanics of the game. Directional dodging changes things up a lot. It's a lot like a safety net from a move, but it offers up so much potential I'm excited to see what people do with it. Being vulnerable while dodging means you can't spam the dodge button like I did in the wii u smash bros. Perfect shield means I can block an enemy's hit, then counter them with my own hit.

    So to recap, the game looks prettier than every smash bros yet, they're adding in & remastering classic stages (& new stages- moray towers), they added new items to the game, they changed up some final smashes, they're changing the mechanics of the game as well as adding characters, old & new, to the game, reworking them too.

    Smells like a new game to me.

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    I'll never deny the game looks prettier!

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    I am assuming there will be a much deeper single-player experience/campaign. That theory is due to the fact that these characters are unlockable and aren’t all given to you right at the start. That alone should make it a “new” game, in my opinion.

    I am just glad Cloud is playable. It would have really grinded my gears had he not been. My thoughts on it are that it looks pretty good. It’s an authentic Smash Bros. experience. Personally, I have never been that big into the game. However, I hope to get more into it with this iteration. I will be happy if there is a legit campaign, or at least something of the sort. I think that the more characters, the better. Never understood people wanting less, and the whole “balancing” act. I play games to have fun, I don’t care about all that.
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    I'm just stoked that we actually have to unlock characters again.
    That was the biggest low point of Smash 3DS/WiiU
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    I'm really hoping for a single player campaign. I'm not much of an online player.

    Agreed.

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    I just thought it looked like the Wii U version, but with higher contrast only.
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    They needed to show a new single player campaign like Subspace Emmisary. They didn't though.
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    it might still be in,but yeah they spent so much time just telling us how each character was different than a previous iteration that i was falling asleep
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    Blasphemy. How could you?

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    first i yawned and then i closed my eyes

    game is going to be fun, but that was just a boring way to present it
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    What game are we talking about again?

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    I highly doubt if they'll reveal that later. We'll see though.
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    I think the Smash portion was really great if you are a Smash fan.
    I can see how it dragged on if you aren't super into Smash, though.
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    Also, it's amazing that Pichu and Young Link are back.
    And Zelda looks gorgeous. This is the best she has ever looked.
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    Really really hoping for another SSE-esque mode here, or even something like Smash Run or Melee's adventure mode. But SSE would be amazing with all the Smash 4 and new Switch characters they have to use. Seeing those characters interact like in SSE would be incredible, but I'm not holding my breath.
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    I am hyped for this. Also new amiibo for this game. I am relieved that Mega Man is once again playable.
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    How do you guys think we'll unlock fighters? My guess is you'll have to buy them with Smash Coins.
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    Maybe they will bring back Subspace Emissary to unlock fighters.
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    At this rate this game is coming out, I have a feeling there won't be a single-player campaign. I'm still excited though, as I love smash.

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    Well, they’ll have to have some way to unlock fighters. I really hope it’s through some form of single-player experience, though, because I would really like to practice before getting my ass handed to me online...
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    No Pauline, no purchase. And reducing her to the status of an arm waving female from a SF2 background doesn't count.

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    Pauline is even less relevant than Waluigi.
    I'm just glad Daisy finally got in. Much more iconic than Rosalina.
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    Nah, Pauline has that hand-clicking, hip-shake thing. What a legend. Rosalina also needs her own game.

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    I'm not sure if you are serious or not.
    I hate Rosalina. Probably because I never got into the Galaxy games, and don't understand why people would prefer her over Daisy.
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    My top 5 wanted newcomers:

    1. Rex & Pyra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2)
    2. Toon Ganondorf (Wind Waker)
    3. Pokémon Trainer Jotho (Chikorita, Quilava, Feraligtr)
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    Yessss!!! I'm wicked pumped for this. Going to be epic being able to play Roy again...my question is : will they bring different versions of characters as well?

    Like, for example:

    N64 Link
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    etc. They're all different if you know what I mean.

    But in any event I can't wait.

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    Well, we do know Young Link and BOTW Link are gonna be 2 different characters. N64 Link I doubt they'd bring, if anything he'd probably be a skin.

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    I do not think Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess Link will come back.
    They are just regular Link, which is already in the game.
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    Yeah, young link & toon link are 2 separate characters, I think regular Link is just supposed to be his current incarnation (even if they DID skip skyward sword link...)

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    That annoyed me. I especially wanted SS Zelda. She is so cute and has a really good personality.
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    I was alright with TP Zelda, but I really wanted at least one incarnation of SS Link. No use crying over spilt Lon Lon Milk though, I suppose. At least we're getting that BotW Link, and he looks like the best yet moveset-wise.

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    I really want a Miitopia stage.
    Miitopia has some epic music, so it would work well in Smash.
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