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    TL;DR - Xbox One to become a Universal Windows Application streaming box.





    The news from Microsoft today is rather enormous. It signals that the Xbox One is certainly not the machine Microsoft wants it to be in terms of sales or hardware, and it signals that Microsoft is adapting on the fly to try and overcome their limitations while pushing the market forward in a completely new way.

    According to Xbox boss Phil Spencer at an event in San Francisco, Microsoft is unifying the Xbox One and PC . Spencer offered that Microsoft is “building out a complete gaming ecosystem for Universal Windows Applications.”

    Xbox One games will sell on the Windows 10 store. They’ll be playable on the platform and the Xbox One. Even further? Spencer indicates that the Xbox One will eventually be a bit more modular, making it possible for users to upgrade their consoles with newer hardware in order to player higher-end Universal Windows Applications.








    ^ Essentially...the Xbox One (Or more than likely it's successor) will become a streaming box for Windows 10 based games, capable of module upgrade cycles and able to branch out into upcoming tech like the Microsoft HoloLens.
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    Scalebound on PC here I come.

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    Good news for Nintendo.

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    I think this is a smart long term move by Microsoft

    Honestly it just encourages me to go more heavy into the Microsoft infrastructure if they'll combine things like this. Being able to play the same games on Xbox and PC is awesome. Sony isn't going to have much of an answer
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    About that...Sony has a pretty solid answer. In fact, imo, it's superior to Microsoft's Windows 10 only line of thinking.

    Sony's streaming is compatible with: Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10 and​ Mac clients.






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    wonder when the sale of these games will start on windows 10
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    Xbox One is Dead

    Im glad xbox brand needs to die

    We only need PS4 to play triple AAA games and Wii U to play Mario and Zelda


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    Yeah, but streaming is very inefficient and adds a lot of latency to multiplayer stuff

    Sony hasn't even been able to do it very well with the PS4 and Vita yet, so we'll see how this update goes
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    I love it. After all the years MS neglected PC gaming, which is what got them started, it's about time they gave us some love. I've been predicting for a while that they'll shift more to PC gaming and maybe put out some kind of console/PC hybrid next, and it looks like that may already be happening.

    Hopefully if they really do make their next Xbox modular, they'll make it as simple as unplugging a large cartridge-like box and plugging in a more powerful one, so console owners don't have the complexity of having to open their case and replace components.

    Here's to hoping someday I'll be playing Halo and Forza on my PC. I do hope they hurry up and get their universal app limitations worked out.
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    You mean like this?





    - - - - - - - - -

    As for Forza on the PC...





    The embargo has lifted on the event and it's been confirmed that Forza is coming to PC. Forza Motorsport 6: Apex will feature 12 themed events and 60 cars, and is not - in the words of Microsoft - a 'microtransaction-driven game'. , and also reports that all future Forza Motorsport games will be developed concurrently for PC and Xbox platforms.
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    You have to have a PS4 for that though don't you? With this, I just have to have my PC and I can buy the games.
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    But they will use their own games for windows platform.
    So now we have 3 platforms to buy pc games on.
    Games for windows for the ms/xbox crossover games
    Origin for the EA games
    steam for everything else.
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    That's a pretty crazy move from Microsoft.
    I play both first and third party games on Nintendo systems. But I also own a PS3 as well.
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    Correct, my point was with nearly 40 Million PS4's currently sold there are millions upon millions of people (like me) who would love the option to digitally 'carry' my PS4 with me when I travel.
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    Actually 4 because of Uplay now. On one hand, it sucks that I have to have my games scattered throughout Steam, Uplay, Origin, and Windows Store. The only reason I even have Origin is because they offered NFS: Most Wanted for free. But on the other hand, it's worth it if it means we get more awesome mainstream games.

    Yeah, it's a good thing for PS4 owners. I don't own a PS4 or XB1, but I do have a gaming PC. So this particular news is much more exciting to a person like me.
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    You could also say GoG should be up there. Also I didn't forget about Uplay i just decided not to mention it.
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    im so happy about this, that means ill be able to play the great lord and saviour kamiya's game scalebound on PC. this is a glorius day
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    I have said before if you have a PC getting an XBONE is a waste of money. Today Microsoft has proven me right.
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    Is GoG all DRM-free, or do they sell Steam keys?

    It is becoming more and more the case. I still can't play Halo 5, Rare Replay, and Sunset Overdrive, though. I'd probably rather have Rare Replay than anything else.

    But even though what you said is true if you have a PC, there is still plenty of reason to get an XB1 if you don't have a PC. There is still the whole benefit of it being much easier to use, and more entertainment center focused. Personally, I love my PC. But I'm realistic enough to know that consoles are better for a lot of people. I'm just glad whatever they put out is going to be unified with PC so that they can sell on both platforms. It's a very smart business move.
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    This is good for the consumer, even though it does concern me a little. I have a fear that one day all we will have is PC. I hope that isn't the case. I'm fine with PC gaming, I used to game a little on an alienware laptop I had, but I still love consoles. I hope we will always have the option of buying a console.

    I don't think this signifies the Xbox One is dead by any means. At least, I really hope that isn't the case. Competition is good, and I don't think the PS4 would be where it is at today without that competition.

    I think the most important bit in here is how the Xbox One may be upgradeable in the future. I used to be totally against that because I felt like that would be the end of consoles because of how close that would make them to a PC. Now, I am all for it. This gen more than any other I've really noticed the frame rate drops and the horrible loading times on certain games. I would be interested in them making a console that could be easily upgraded, and if they do I think Sony should get on board with that too.
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    I don't see how this means xbox is dead. not one bit. they are phasing both the master race and console gamers into one. I don't see how that's them dying. that's more like herpes spreading all around. more fun for everyone.


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    There will always be consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Xbox is just a small form factor Windows PC that is set up with a console-like user interface, though. It will continue being just like a console from the user's perspective, but be completely compatible with Windows PCs.
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    well yea, but with that money, you can buy a way better performing pc. also since the exclusives are coming to pc, theres is absolutely no reason now to buy an xbox one

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    its not dead.
    There already making plans for the next xbox. Its just that games are going to be playable on xb1 and pc, and htis isn't even all their games.
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    its pretty dead man lol. scalebound is most likely coming to pc, and thats all i care about

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    Meh, I'm still going to play my Xbox. I get quite a bit of use out of it as it is. I already have a Wii U and a gaming PC so I was already set this gen for games as it is. I use the Xbox just for when I want to sit down on my couch and play some games that aren't on Nintendo.

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    Wrong. It's completely dead. When a company starts porting over the only reason to own that specific console (exclusives) then it's officially dead.

    Remember the Dreamcast? It still had games coming out for it, right? Sega was even selling off a few million units in old stock. But, when Sega started porting games over that was it. The End.

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    "Xbox One games will sell on the Windows 10 store. They’ll be playable on the platform and the Xbox One."
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    There's a lot of people who can't afford to buy gaming PCs who the XBox one will appeal to. I don't think the comparison is any more apt than saying the Wii U is Nintendo's Dreamcast when the situations are quite different.

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    The difference is we've received nearly 4 years of, arguably, solid support from Nintendo. No, it hasn't been perfect, but we have yet to see a single 1st or 2nd party title go to any other platform.

    I'm not saying that what Microsoft is doing is bad or anything. Quite the opposite for me in fact, since I now get to enjoy their games on my Gaming PC and can put the money I would have invested into an Xbox One + Live instead towards simply purchasing games.

    The Xbox One will probably limp along until Sony brings out the PS5 in another 3-4 years. Then we'll see something like a 'SteamOS box' from Microsoft, but designed to work primarily through the cloud and exclusively use their new Universal Windows Application store. (They really need a better name. )
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    scalebound was the only reason i even though about and xbox one, now that its most likely coming to pc, there is absolutely no reason to get an xbox one

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    And then there is a large pc group that will never get a console and ms is trying to get them to buy their games.

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    Like I said earlier, there will always be plenty of viable reasons for people to prefer consoles over PCs. Ease of use, plug-n-play, uniformity with all games working the same on all consoles, the fact that they're more entertainment center focused, being able to just come home from work, push a button, and play, and most of all, the price. No matter what you say, you can't build a decent gaming PC for $350. I help people with building PCs for the best deal all the time, and $350 won't get you squat for gaming. And like we always say on the IGN PC forums, if you're building a computer to try to be on par with a console, you're doing it wrong.

    Other than Nintendo, I'm a PC guy through and through. But I'm realistic enough to know that PCs aren't for everyone, and that for a lot of people, consoles are the best choice. Microsoft is not doing this because they're killing off the Xbox. They're doing it to expand their market to a wider demographic, and it's about time they did.
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    Well Microsoft is also thinking of having upgradeable Xbox Ones in the future, so the PC-console line is blurring

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    Nintendo should do the same with their new platforms - it's one of the rumors, right?.



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    Most definitely. I've believed for a long time that the next Xbox will just be a small form factor Windows PC with a console user interface. And I like how they're using the term "modular" instead of upgradeable. I'm really hoping that if they actually do that, it will be as easy as unplugging a large cartridge-like box, and plugging in a better one. Kind of like how the hard drive worked in the 360.
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    See, that's actually not a bad idea. (See Genesis 32xxxxxxxxx up above ) But seriously, that would be the most simple way, as long as Microsoft makes it easy and not too expensive. They certainly can't do yearly, but I can see them pushing out an upgrade every 2-3 years at $200 if the tech is a big enough jump. (Anything over $200 outside of a base unit + controller is DOA in my opinion. Folks won't see the value.)

    The key will be marketing and convincing consumers to jump in on Gen 1 instead of always waiting it out for the 'next best thing'. Also, getting developers on board to ensure they support the lower tier tech for a long enough time period so folks don't feel burned.

    Heck, I could even see them doing some sort of trade-in/upgrade program like we currently have with most major cellphone carriers.
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    xbox one is far cheaper and more convenient than a PC that can play these games, the console and pc market is different, always has been. Most console gamers don't give two cents that a game is on pc too, as long as the rival console doesn't have it then that's a reason for them to pick their console.

    do people really believe xbox is going to die just because it's exclusives are on pc too? All that matters is that ps4 does not get these games, as long as you don't see games like forza and quantum break on ps4 then they are being competitive because tbh microsoft has a lot more AAA "exclusive" games on xbox one. Sony doesn't even have a gran turismo game on ps4 yet ( big mistake by not porting gt6) while xbox one has 3 forza games

    this is coming from a ps4 owner
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