Devil’s Third was a surprise announcement for the Wii U at E3 this year. It’s been teased off and on for nearly four years now and with the closure of THQ, many figured Devil’s Third would be vaporware, so when the game showed up during Nintendo’s Digital E3 event as a Wii U exclusive, it shocked plenty of fans both new and old. In a recent interview with Polygon, developer Tomonobu Itagaki discusses why this decision was made. There are also cultural differences between the way that I’ve worked and the way Nintendo works, which is when it comes down to the basic grammar of games, the method of game creation. And so we certainly fought some, but I think that I saw the value in a lot of the ways that they do things and learned a great amount. So how much of the game has remained the same over this long development cycle? Itagaki says that the game is nearly the same as it was planned for Sony and Microsoft’s consoles in 2011. He says that while 90% of the game remains unchanged, the remaining 10% was influenced highly by Nintendo. That other 10 percent I think really has been flavored by this cooperation with Nintendo. Now, as I’m sure you’re aware, Japan is a small country in terms of landmass, but it still has an amazing concentration of lots of different cultures within it, and I think that Nintendo culture is one of those, and I had this opportunity to learn about Nintendo culture through the years working with them. local_offer Devil's Third Nintendo Tomonobu Itagaki wii u stars Further Reading Nintendo profits are up 520% Breath of the Wild sells 3.8 million units Is Nintendo shafting Axiom Verge because of Dan Adelman? Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties, says Stardock CEO Earthlock backers will get Switch version if it ever happens Zelda: Breath of the Wild Deluxe guide for $48 on Amazon anthony optimo High hopes… Lusunup They known nintendo would succeed in the gaming industry that’s why they made it exclusively for Wii U. GVGINU Or it could just be that Nintendo picked up the project after THQ closed and saved it from being a missing game (possibly a series) much like they did with Bayonetta. Lusunup That is true butThey also wanted to learn more on the lines of gameplay and who else makes the best gameplay in the industry? Nintendo. Bayonetta wasn’t the same, it just didn’t sell well on ps3 and xbox so they didn’t considered making a sequel until Nintendo paid Platinum to make a sequel for there console. abe actually platinum wanted to make a sequel but sega could not fund it, even as a download or as DLC for the first one, Sega directed Platinum to Nintendo Darknut Lol, this guy, making stuff up as he goes along. Don’t spread false information or just assume the general impressions you’ve picked up from other people’s talk is the truth. Verification is a powerful methodology. AM Real I definitely think this was the case The Clockwork Being Nintendo should really advertise this alot. It could really sell to the COD crowd tbh. Frosti Yeah a friend of mines is like “wtf wii u exclusive” he does not have a wii u lol. He mad. Jake D Reiter yea this is a day one buy uPadWatcher The way of Nintendo is a very wise choice for Itagaki-san. So that means Nintendo is assisting the development team at Valhalla Game Studios in making the Unreal Engine-powered Devil’s Third. After looking at the hands-on Alpha build that was once powered Darksiders II engine that was supposed to be for PS3 and X360 (R.I.P. THQ), I have faith that they’ll fix the framerate that goes perfectly with the already impressive controls, etc. Either this or next year, I’m adding Devil’s Third on my MUST BUY list. memk Does no one know that THQ is coming back? uPadWatcher Never believe what you read on the internet. Petri Nordic games, or what ever it was, appealed to use the THQ name. uPadWatcher Source? Petri http://www.gamespot.com/articles/thq-s-name-being-revived-by-darksiders-owner-nordic-games/1100-6420477/ uPadWatcher OK. At least Valhalla owns the intellectual property of Devil’s Third…. now that Nintendo have funded and published the title.. hook, line, and sinker. And Petri… thank you for sharing the link. Daniel Gonzalez In name, only. Not as a company. Spoon No Dawn of War 3 … *sob* 504HotBoy Interesting and I kind of figured that. I was speculating that they made the transition to the Wii U sometime in Nov/Dec 2013. A few weeks before he made the announcement that Devil’s Third was back on track. Most likely been working on the controls, collision detection, A.I., some Gamepad integration, among a few other things. They haven’t even begun to optimize the game to run on Wii U hardware yet. Which could explain why the game graphic quality look on the same level as Suda 51’s 2011 Shadows Of The Damned. They need a good 6 more months or so of polishing it. Roadkill409 This is a game that Nintendo needs to make look good if they want it to appeal to the audience they want it to appeal to. They will take the necessary time to make it what it needs to be. I assume that is the 10% or at least some part of that 10% of the Nintendo influence. 504HotBoy You’re absolutely right. Nintendo won’t release the game until they feel it’s polished completely in the way it plays and looks. I guess that’s why the game doesn’t have a release date. It was originally slated for 2014 release. Now the release is TBA. Rinslowe Yep. I think they’re taking more of a hands on approach to the quality direction of these exclusively funded titles, in comparison to independently funded third party games. And fair enough too, it’s their investment really. Although in my thinking, so are all games potentially that make it to their platforms… Rinslowe True. I’m not the biggest CoD or Battlefield fan these days but I’m still online in multiplayer on both franchises, probably once a week. One thing those two games have are decent visuals. Both styles I can appreciate and it doesn’t look like Devils Third as it is today, has that same scope or polish – in the visuals specifically. But if it performs consistently and has enough engaging inclusions to gameplay mechanics it’ll get by with few visual improvements made… I don’t think it’s an ugly game by any means. I do hope they clean it up a bit more though before release. Roadkill409 I am not a consistent player of FPS, I use to play Metal of Honor years ago and had fun with it, but I have not purchased a similar game since I had kids. All the points you bring up are very valid and I agree with. There is always a part of me that worries about FPS (or 3rd person shooters) exclusives from Nintendo ever since The Conduit. Do you see this game going in that direction? I have played both Conduit’s and I did not think they deserved the beating they took, nor was it a game that will win the crown of the best Nintendo games of all time. But I remember some friends of mine who were played CoD and Gears of War and they just wrote the game off without ever playing it. Will the Devils Third have the same trajectory? Or was The Conduit, the wrong game at the wrong time? Fun is really any game’s test for me. I mean, I have fun with Tank Tank Tank from time to time. I hope the game does well as I hope Bayonetta does too, because it might open the door to other games that may not have graced the system. Rinslowe Hmm. For me I have a soft spot for anything Sci Fi related so hard to critique equally. Conduit definitely went under the radar of a lot of gamer’s. I think again, if the message is communicated well enough. Then multiplat owners well likely give Devils Third a go. The Wii U not having the same hang ups for the average gamer regarding visuals. Which is one of the reasons a lot of people with 360’s, PS3’s and PC’s wrote off the Wii unfairly. I have a separate area for gaming, so don’t have to worry so much about my son being exposed to violent titles. But, my waning interest in these things are more personal due to that. Too much portrayed violence for violence’ sake today. Mindless really… It always makes me laugh when people express their perceived maturity on account of “moving on” from certain franchises. Like the type of games Nintendo has made a science over the years. A lot of studios actually not just the big N. These gamers that associate their “ascension” to the more mature themed games as supposed proof of that maturity. To me, reality couldn’t be further from the truth and fun, vibrant titles which can be enjoyed by adult and child alike speaks genius in my opinion. Well above the gritty realism and so called mature themed games out there today which focus to heavily on including person to person violence. Truth be told. These games are more often less challenging and spend more time guiding and hand holding the player throughout the experience. And where’s the fun in that? Roadkill409 If I had to guess, I would say some people like to play an interactive action movie. And that is ok. But I will stick with Lunar 2 on my Sega CD. I did enjoy the Conduit. But once again, you are battling aliens most of the time and since it was on the Wii, it was not as realistic. And yet I could tell that High Voltage did not take themselves too seriously. I really only played the single player though. I have a very bad habit of buying games with all the intentions in the world of playing them and yet they don’t get played (Conduit 2 is not fully played yet). I have a back list far too long. Maybe my oldest game, that I want to play and that I bought when it came out, being Panzer Dragoon Saga. But being a gamer from when I was young starting around the Atari age, I sort of fell out of the gaming world when the 32/64 bit era began. I just felt like they should have had one more 2D or 2.5D generation and then the 3D technology would have been there, i.e. Dreamcast/ps2. I did have fun with the Dreamcast, but it ended way too soon. It was not until the Wii that I was really drawn back into gaming because Nintendo made it fun again. Rinslowe We have a very similar habit. For me it’s especially something that I have a subconscious habit of in FPS’s. I honestly don’t think I’ve finished a CoD game since the first Modern Warfare. And am still to complete Battlefield Bad Company 2, BF3 and 4. At least I’m quite sure I didn’t get around to finishing any BF games since BC 2. But I’ve sunk a fair amount of time into each titles multiplayer so far. In fact I doubt I’ll ever finish those games now. Joseph Oliveira Agree. That 10% is huge and Nintendo is funding it. Name me one Nintendo game people was like, “dafuq?” Even though people wants the game to come out now, Nintendo won’t until they know it will really please the world. Roadkill409 There is no doubt that Nintendo knows how to make long lasting quality games that have appeal for years and years even across generations. And they don’t do that by rushing out games. There is a point of diminished returns, and Nintendo seems to understand that almost every time. Rinslowe In regards to the visuals. I think I would agree due to the intended hardware, a few small changes will be made. But I also think that there may not be too many optimisations, at the end of the day that improve the overall visuals. Bringing it up to speed on Wii U hardware. I would be happy to be wrong… 504HotBoy In all reality the visuals aren’t that bad like people are making it out to be. It does look like a multiplat 7th gen game. As 7th gen exclusives tend to have a higher graphic quality. But people are exaggerating for whatever reasons saying it looks like a PS2 game or a 1st generation 360 & PS3 game that came out in 2005 – 2007. The character models in the cut scenes (which are the same as the in game graphics) are very detailed, you can see their veins, scars, detail in their skin, etc. The environments textures are pretty decent and , shadows from the trees, the draw distance in the Panama stage and a lot of other little details I noticed. I never saw details like that in older earlier 360 & PS3 games, let alone a PS2 game. It does look like a multiplat from 2011. I say about on the same quality as Shadows Of The Damned. The graphics does need a bit more polish. If they can polish Hyrule Warriors in 5 months and improve the graphics to look much better. I’m pretty sure they can do the same here. Higher-res and more detailed textures, improve and add more real time effects (lighting, particle, etc.). Would touch up the visuals quite nicely! This game is getting a lot of unnecessary questionable hate. When Watch Dogs look like a straight 7th gen game on more powerful hardware like the PS4 & Xbox One. I have the PS4 version. It looks even worse on PS3 & 360 and isn’t receiving half the negativity. Rinslowe Oh yeah it’s completely unfounded fanboy anti logic to compare DT to a PS2 or early 7th gen title in the visual department. lol. To be expected some people love their brands so much, they’ll literally hate on anything and everything else. Crazy fanboys. I have seen the nonsense out there. When looking at the visuals, I mean purely the visuals I can agree. The overall texture quality could be better and maybe if they could include better lighting and effects in places and I think it would be enough… Really it’s the potential in the level editor that has me interested personally. All other things would be a nice bonus. Again, I’m sure there will be “some” touch ups surely… Just not sure by what degree. Maybe the animations too could do with a polish… bistricky Do you think the change in game engines they are using for Devil’s Third, will give this game the potential for better graphics ect.? It is my understanding that Devil’s Third was originally being made on the Phoenix/Relic Engine but is now being made on the Unreal Engine 3. I know nothing about game engines, so I have no idea if this change will allow this game to be more polished. Rinslowe I’m not really sure about the original game engine but if the version we saw at E3 is running on Unreal Engine 3. There are a few places like lighting and alpha effects that could be improved. It all comes down to the talent and how much time they intend to put into it, from here. UE3 still has a few tricks up it’s sleeve imo, like we saw with the console versions of Batman Arkham Origins visually speaking. Some nice lighting especially. Better than what Devils Third currently shows from the E3 footage. But yeah. Will they change it all that much? I’m not going to get my hopes up on it. Being a funded exclusive is a positive though as Nintendo are probably allowed to have more input into quality control. If the game ships and has any performance issues I’d be very surprised. bistricky Thank you for the reply. I really appreciate it. I am hopeful that this game engine will bring the best out of Itagaki’s vision. I loved hearing him talk about his game during his extensive interview at E3 2014 …. he was so into his overkill creation. It does look rough around the edges but maybe more then any other game, I want this game to succeed. I am buying it, if its great, good or ugly …. I just prefer to see it great. Cheers 😀 Rinslowe I thought I’d share a couple of screens I took from the Wii U version of Batman Arkham Origins. A sort of comparison to the lighting on UE3 that looks better than what they’ve shown so far for Devils Third. I’m certain that the latest footage is actually using UE3 already for DT. So yeah, it really is up to the dev’s whether or not they improve that area. It wouldn’t hurt to have more dynamic lighting available in Devils Third given the locales… bistricky Fascinating. Yes ….. I now see and understand what you mean by dynamic lighting …. it does give the game visual depth. I actually own both of the Batman games for the Wii U but haven’t had the opportunity to play them yet (backlog of games) …. and yes, it sure is nice to get back to discussing gaming without the troll. Cheers, my friend, 😀 vexedpython I dident think they where that bad as well. but still I don’t think it will be very successful. I hope that statement doesn’t offend those looking forward to the game but the mind set that its a xbox360 game repackaged I think will taint ppls thoughts on it unless they REALY make it look new. ppl are dumb like that but I think it will cause a real hurdle for it. thedeciderU people are just beating it down because they can and it’s the popular thing to do with any product released on a nintendo console. thedeciderU i have played a ton of third-person shooters on ps2 and this looks waaaaaay better. people forget easy/exaggerate way too much just to try to sound correct when in fact they have little back up their opinions/insults. ActivesiN I am looking forward to devil’s third, the multiplayer looks so fun InterTreble “Wii U has no support from third parties”, “Wii U is only Mario”, “Wii U is only platform”, “Wii U is only for families”. Find what the previous sentences have in common. LordiMcKill They all have Wii U in them? 😀 InterTreble Ahahah! Right, and the other one? 😛 bizzy gie I give. What it is? InterTreble greengecko won! 🙂 WiiUisgaming Wii U is only InterTreble Wii U is only that good, you wanted to write. Didn’t you? 😛 Just kidding, they are all false. Very simple! 🙂 Yoshifan3 you must have sex with your wii u every night. is that why you are such a fanboy? Kevdbeast Calm down,naming yourself after a series seems more fanboyish to me than just loving(not in your way you sick being)your console. TehEngineer Really Yoshi? C’mon on man, you’re better than this. InterTreble Which part of “just kidding” is not clear for you? Laugh, man. Smile. We are talking about toys, you should take it easier. Epic fail, indeed. greengecko007 They are all sweeping generalizations that still have truth to them? Conversely, you can’t tell me that “the wii u has good third party support” or “there aren’t enough mario games”… do I need to continue? InterTreble That’s true, too. But I never told! 😉 greengecko007 I wasn’t trying to imply that you did. I only meant that there are extremists on both sides, and both groups are wrong. Rinslowe Absolutely. InterTreble Agreed bistricky I get your point ….. those are the usual negative responses about the Wii U but they are not entirely false just not complete. For me, It is more like: The Wii U presently has very limited support from third parties (especially compared to PS4 and X1). The Wii U exclusive Mario titles are significant but still a variety of games are available for it. The Wii U has many very good platform games but other genres are available. The Wii U is a family friendly console but if you like M-rated titles it has some like ZombiU and the upcoming game Devil’s Third. I would add the Wii U is fun. Cheers 😀 InterTreble Sorry greengecko, bistricky took the crown! 🙂 Cheers to you both, friends! 🙂 greengecko007 But… bistricky Aw shucks …. that’s great …. I will be true to the ‘crown’ and all the things it stands for …. LOL. Look for the ‘crown’ to be passed on to the next worthy (sorry I am laughing) person on Wii U Daily, in the near future. All now hail to the ‘crown’.. XD vexedpython yea but even if it where true there is nothing wrong with liking family friendly games. I don’t find it fun to watch others suffer. I most likely wont buy this game but that’s just me I hope those that like these enjoy it. ill stick with my platform games I like them and don’t mind if ppl think my system of choice is mostly for them. that’s why I choose the console to begin with. Capt. Smoker Wii U has none of that subscription bullshit ^^ LordiMcKill I’m glad that Nintendo is becoming more like one of those companies that basically say: ‘If no one will fund your game, we will’. That’s why I’ve got high hopes that Nintendo buys Capcom and once again comes to save the day, this time getting about 10 more IP’s under their belt. PlayboyPacquiao I hope a lot of Wii U owners support this game.. This is like our “Conduit” for the Wii U. I’m sure Itagaki and team are hard at work crafting this game for us. By the way, it will be sporting Nintendo’s seal of quality. Daniel Carvalho Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to be my kind of game, although I am indeed interested on the parts it differs from generic shooter. Being able to trow your melee weapons, steal weapons from enemies and have combos on a shooter title is something really interesting. I don’t know if I’ll get this game, but I do know I will give it a try. TaintedXGamer if we having this and Splatoons, I’m never buying another COD game again. bistricky 😀 Capt. Smoker I won’t be getting it, like you, it ain’t my kinda game, I avoid buying other consoles because there’s plenty of these types of games going round, not one of em is my kind of game, if the main character looked like great teacher Onizuka, MAYBE it would be my kind of game, but under these circumstances, no sale 🙂 Daniel Carvalho As I said, I’ll be trying it out. This looks promising in the sense it differs from generic shooters with interesting melee combat mechanics, but the realistic graphics and the fact it is a shooter just turn me off. If not for that difference, it would pass just as another generic shooter for me, and surely one I wouldn’t want to get my hands on. That said, it still doesn’t look like the kind of game I’d play. It surely has interesting mechanics that differ from the generic part of the genre, but still is way off from the games I like to play. I can see this title getting either praised a lot for adding new stuff to a generic genre (or being criticized for not being all the same, just like “specialized” media criticized ZombiU for not being a fully action packed survival horror like RE6), but I can’t really see a space for it in my future game collection yet… Capt. Smoker I usually rent these kind of games and I’d say 90% of the time, my first intuition about it being not my thing was right, bit there have been one or two that managed to get me into the series even, after thinking it weren’t my thing, games like Bioshock and Borderlands (both add something fresh to their genre), Uncharted, Motorstorm (usually hate racing games that aren’t Mario kart) , Ys is in there too, I don’t really think it matters what the media thinks of it, they want everything to be like everything, Resident Evil 6 was terrible by the way lol Daniel Carvalho I have the same option for RE6. The problem is that people who review survival horror games are used to the turn the series has made, gamers who only came to get the Biohazard series AFTER they changed its core essence with the 4th title. It really irritates me hearing sites like Gametrailers and IGN saying “Capcom finally got it right on the 4th try”. Dammit, there has never been anything wrong with the series before for them to “get it right”! Instead, all they did was ruin the mood in order to get the favor of fans of other genres instead. They abandoned their survival horror fans in order to cater to the FPS Action fans, pretty much like Nintendo nearly abandoned their core fanbase in order to strive for the casual audience on the Wii U’s first two years of life. I usually read some reviews, but I never analyze a game trough them. I prefer to watch playthroughs and LPs before deciding if I’ll give the game a try or not, because those reviews almost never get it right (even after the 4th try) in my opinion. They’re mostly biased and tend to try to sell the game for the biggest audience, not for its actual public. Capt. Smoker I never listen to these sites, it’s clear in their acting that their putting on a front with most games because they get payed to hype them up, they most likely get payed to trash talk other games as well, I don’t like their constant need to berate and belittle things based on their own biased opinion, comes across like their gods or something like that, can’t stand the arrogance in this industry. Usually I go to classic game room for my reviews, as they seem like a bunch of down to earth guys who really go in depth with their reviews, except one guy who has a voice so boring that it’ll put you sleep lol, if I can’t get a review there I go to youtube and watch footage from playthroughs, after all the crap Nintendo fans endured for just wanting to enjoy their console from companies like IGN and GT, all that condescending talk, joining in with the fan hate etc, I refuse to go back there again, not even for Vita and 3ds reviews. I’d love to see those no nothing fucks at IGN make a game, at least before heavily criticizing everyone elses, there’s pointing out a flaw, and there’s tearing into something based on the reviewers personal opinion, I think that company needs to wise up and learn how tsome professionalism. Parker Parker i will buy it but i hope its not like conduit or its sequel because they are both mediocre games YogiGRB to me it looks/feels like Redsteel a tiny bit ConCity Soldier The main reason Red Steel was a bad game was because motion plus didn’t exist yet. I’m sure if motion plus was on that game the gameplay would have been a lot better. YogiGRB people loved Red Steel 2 a lot though ConCity Soldier Bayonetta 2 will probably sell over a million, but if this Devil’s Third doesn’t get proper advertisement I’m afraid Devil’s Third will have poor sells. Plus, the graphics are been shunned even by Wii U owners, and some people didn’t like what they saw from the single player. I’m personally interested in buying Devil’s Third, and I will probably own it once it’s released. I’m not so sure it will sell well. thedeciderU it looks like an extension of something i’ve played and enjoyed, so i’m glad to have it come to wiiu, plus it’s so over the top it’s ridiculous…ly good. i welcome that, just like house of the dead: overkill was so over the top on wii. pbd2 I think a million is very optimistic, I cant see Bayonetta doing too well. The first game sold about a million copies across 2 much stronger platforms. I cant see why the developers have made this exclusive to wiu. ConCity Soldier The majority of Wii U owners want Bayonetta 2, well at least those over the internet. I can definitely see it selling a million. But we shall see.. One thing for sure is I would like to see a Bayonetta 2 commericial on television, but I doubt we’ll see that lol. thedeciderU supporting Ducked This game looks like crap. It’s trying to be too much. I expect poor sales and poor reviews. Bayonetta 2 interests me more. 504HotBoy You should be more open minded. But on the other hand if they said the game was being released next month or within the next 2 months. I would be concerned as well. They’re still working on it and most likely we won’t see it till 2015. I hope they get the execution of mixing hack n slash, melee combat, first person shooter & a third person shooter, balanced out and perfected right. If so, we can have some stylish gameplay on our hands, that can be loads of fun. Graphics wise all they need to do is what they did with Hyrule Warriors. Improve it with more detailed higher -res textures, improve and add more real time effects (lighting, particle, etc.). FutureFox I’m hoping this is a better implementation of the game Wet. It maybe rough around the edges but if the gameplay is solid it won’t be a deal breaker. Curious how in some videos I’ve seen the main character had hair. I wonder if that’s a design change or part of the story element? Koudai2008 It could be that the character customization carries over into the single-player mode. xTrucho3 The game need more polish, looks more like a last gen game to me oontz Yes, I agree. Isn’t looking to good, and in it’s current state isn’t a good show piece for what the wiiu is capable of. Rinslowe I hope the game does well. I’ll probably at this stage buy into it as it is an exclusive. And looks to have a level editor in multiplayer, which could be good. Would need to see more on how their take on that goes as they reveal more. But if the story is weak and the violence is handled out of context which is truthfully a little likely, I’m not sure I would even touch the main campaign. On a bit of a meh with wanton violence in recent years. But I can make exceptions in competitive mulitplayer. Double standards… Ultimately I’ll give it a shot. PS4WiiURocks Awesome now all we need is capcom and im all set Yoshiwhirlwind Nintendo should resurrect n-space’s Winter. IceMan is devils third a new ip or part of an existing series? bistricky New IP …. yes. It is not from an existing series. IceMan ok, thanks FutureFox Kinda makes me wonder just how many unfinished games are out there looking for someone to pick it up? val berger the reason why they made it is, because it would stand out. If that game would’ve been published on PS360 or PS4XBone, no one would care at all. On the WiiU, there’s nothing like this and as we can see in this article, it totally works out. This sometimes happens on Nintendo consoles. It doesn’t get too much violent games, but the few that are being released are sometimes more violent than the average slasher game. Like Madworld on the Wii. oontz Mad World was brutally violent. val berger Manhunt2 for the Gamecube too, although that one was a multiplat. Still kinda stood out on the GCN. As well as the Turok games did on the N64, although this whole family-kids-thing wasn’t such a big issue back then. oontz I loved Mad World for the art style and design. It was great. lonewolf Tell me one game where you have shooting with all kinds of guns, you have fist fighting, you have sword fighting, you throw your swords and knives at your enemies and you have brutal takedowns. And about the multiplayer there is no game out there that is utilizing it this way. Even if it was multiplat this game would have been standing out from the other games available. val berger Of course there isn’t another game that offers just exactly the same experience. But on other systems there are some other games that try to play around with brutal mechanics. although you’re right, the only thing I’ve seen these days was Mortal Kombat X. Somehow this kind of overbrutal stuff got kinda overused during the PS2-era and faded a bit from the spotlight ever since. I guess there are a few other reasons for that, like growing production costs of better looking games and thus less readiness to produce this kind of stuff. Still, games like God of War always aimed for having sort of creative ways to torture your foes to death. No matter what, a Nintendosystem for especially that game is just the one system, it would stand out most. Mr. J Totally of topic but….have any of you tried Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark yet? Davo Campbell i will buy this game if i see it here nintendo needs more games with lots more killing and fucking. make a game where you kill every thing that moves thats what i do in shoot em up s i kill any and every thing that moves MerryBlind . The trailer I saw wasn’t very convincing… Doesn’t look like a good game to me! the_battery I don’t get why people think this game looks boring, to me it looks like No more heroes mixed with a little ghost recon. The game looks like something Suda 51 would make. Btw, when will Nintendo hire Suda again? I want a new No more heroes! fireheartis1 I can’t wait to get ahold of this game. It looks so amazing and the fact it’s only on my console of choice is awesome. Epicstuf To me, it looks like Sunset Overdrive.