Developer of Nano Assault Neo, Shin’en Multimedia recently spoke about the Wii U GPU and the state of development for the Wii U in general. With third party developers like Electronic Arts trashing the Wii U before even trying to get their engines working on the system, it’s nice to hear from a developer who put in the extra effort. According to the developer, the Wii U is leaps and bounds ahead of the current generation and developers merely need to take advantage of that. The Wii U GPU is several generations ahead of the current gen. It allows many things that were not possible on consoles before. If you develop for Wii U you have to take advantage of these possibilities, otherwise your performance is of course limited. Also your engine layout needs to be different. Nano Assault Neo is certainly one of the best looking games for Wii U, so it seems Shin’en Multimedia know what they’re talking about when it comes to utilizing the full power of the Wii U. The system has been available for less than a year and a myriad of developers have stated it’s both easy and hard to work with. Over the next year we’ll likely see more developers speaking about their experiences with the platform, so hopefully they’ll have the same success as Shin’en. [via HDWarriors] Thanks Nintedward! local_offer nano assault neo Nintendo shin'en multimedia wii u stars Further Reading Nintendo loses patent appeal, ordered to pay Nintendo was brainstorming about Switch when HSN1 …Didn’t we know it since, like, the launch? Nexium No? Ben Kapferer Let’s just say the matter has been rather ambiguous. Nobody knew for sure just how powerful the Wii U was compared to Xbox 360/PS3. Nothing5555 Blame Nintendo for that…  Blame yourself for all the downvotes your comment is most likely about to get. Bob Wilkerson That’s because Nintendo does not want to lure people by specs. Nintendo has always been about the games and innovating new ways to play those games. Only fools fall for and get into pissing matches over who has the better specs. Justin Downer Exactly Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft doesn’t even make hardware Amd does and so does IBM if Nintendo wanted uber Power they could’ve gotten it. Bob Wilkerson Nintendo wanted to deliver a console at a reasonable cost and $300-$350 is about as high as a new console should cost. You start getting into that $500+ area and that is too much IMO. Especially for a console that does not deliver backwards compatibility to it’s predecessor. MetroidZero It’s ahead of current gen? O_O It’s stronger than PS4 and XBONE! Just kidding…I’m sure they meant last gen…PS360, etc. bizzy gie The seventh generation will end when all eight generation consoles have launched. Chris Heskin Actually i think MS is gonna keep supporting the 360 for years to come, read that somewhere Michael Durkopp it was confermed that the 360 will be supported for the next 5 years MTGSWE And when you least suspect it, they kill of the servers and kill of Xbox 360 support. JK bizzy gie Sony said they will too with the PS3. Justin Downer Just milking it more Revolution5268 nope when all seventh generation consoles discontinued. Robknoxious1 “It’s stronger than PS4 and XBONE! Just kidding…I’m sure they meant last gen…PS360, etc.” Heck, why stop there? Let’s take a page out of EA’s book and say it’s ahead of current high-end gaming PC’s 😉 Nothing5555 Well PS360wii is still current gen until they are EOL. Andreas Sunde Well, the ps2 is still supported. So are we at 6th gen still? I’d say we’re already in the 8th gen. It’s just that some people haven’t really caught up yet. David Dixon Actually, this past year was the last year of support. Andreas Sunde Oh, I didn’t know that. But my argument still stands, were we still in gen 6 up untill that point? Agent721 Nano Assault Neo is a great game. Superstick98 FAST Racing League 2 please! david jarman It’s reportedly in development from what I’ve heard. jay People still deny THIS?! At least the Wii U had a graphics jump!! Unlike the PS 3.5! gimpcell Okay, i will be teh troll. No, the Wii U is only a Wii with no next-gen graphics. Evang3los I’m at troll Hunter. define “next gen” next: On the first or soonest occasion after the present; immediately afterward. generation: a period of time. So you could call next gen graphics whatever you want. it’s Nintendo’s next gen, so therefore your logic of stupid Marc Duarte I’m curious too. What exactly defines “next-gen” hardware wise? What’s the minimum amount of power a console needs to qualify for this label? I’ve yet to get any real answer for this perplexing question. All I see is ignorant people throwing this ambiguous term around without even really knowing what it even means. It’s just stupid when you think about. Justin Downer Next generation could just mean the next gen system? Also it is next gen compared to the current generation of consoles. david jarman Well, then I guess no console is next gen if we’re going by graphics cause we just caught up to a PC that will exceed by the time ps4 and ex box one show up. Oh and by the way. Nano assault neo and trine 2:directs cut on the wii u surpassed last gen consoles graphics who can’t run either one of those games. Those were just EShop indie titles. Imagine what the big boys will do. Andrew Baines its all good at the mo but we all need to look at what games we are going to get for wii u to keep up with next gen Yousif Alromaithi Wii U is awesome but the ps4 would be powerful for sure. Guest Don’t forget it’s a GPGPU too. Marc Duarte With the Wii U’s GPU doing a lot of the heavy lifting, you don’t really need a fast CPU anymore, unless you’re talking about multitasking. Therefore, the era of CPUs being dominant is over, with the crown being handed to the GPU. It’s been this way for sometime in the PC world. Nowadays, a dual-core can handle pretty much any game you throw at it. What’s going to actually hold it back is the GPU, not the CPU. There are only a handful of titles that even take advantage of multi-core CPUs, because it’s such a pain to program for. I’d say Nintendo is well up-to-date on current technology, unlike the majority of people who stick to the outdated belief that GHz is the only reliable measure for power. Just goes to show how clueless they really are in end. Justin Downer And honestly jaguar is not that impressive the IBM chip most likely has more IPC since the jaguar is supposed to compete with the ATOM the PS4 and the Xbox one has 8 cores vs 3 on the Wii u but then again gaming doesn’t even use more than 3 cores most of the time even GTA4 only used that many. The only game that can even use 8 cores well is Crysis 3 and that could run on the Wii U as well, http://kotaku.com/5988140/wii-u-can-handle-crysis-3-and-almost-did-says-crytek-head So it basically comes down to money Marc Duarte Eight cores is plain overkill, in my opinion. Heck, developers have already demonstrated that they’re too damn lazy to even utilize more than two right now, because of the difficulty and costs associated with programming for them. So mark my words, only a select few studios will ever be able to fully harness the full power of every one of those eight cores in the PS4’s and X-Box ONE’s CPUs. And don’t even think for a minute that the PS5’s and X-Box TWO’s are going to have 16 or more, as I’ve heard some people talking about. Upping the core count past a certain point just isn’t feasible, and the only real benefits it’ll bring is in the area of multitasking. The real solution to increasing CPU power is through the development of newer and more efficient architectures, not higher clockspeeds and core counts. That’s the only way forward. Justin Downer +1 one to you! Nintedward I for one am just SICK of the legions of ignorant idiots who talk crap about the Wiiu. Shinen are fans of NIntendo and are nerdy about pushing every last bite of tech. They confirm what we all know with this. -You build games for Wiiu from ground up and utilize all its power – it’s a lot better than PS3 and 360 – you slap a port on the Wiiu without doing much work then it will struggle because the architecture is different. I don’ get why that is so hard to understand for some. Now yes… It is annoying when a Wiiu game has a slight framerate niggle or what not. but its not because the console is ”weak” its because the developer is ”lazy”. Why is the Xbox one not backwards compatible ? because it has a different architecture. End of. It’s like ..remember when Sony drones were saying ”The 3DS is not even as powerfull as the PSP loool”. Look at how that turned out! Revelations looks good enough to be on PS3 , 360 , Wiiu… You look at ME3 on Wiiu. Runs beautifully on Wiiu right ? but it looks EXACTLY 100% the same as it does on 360. So imagine if you built a game like ME3 for Wiiu from the ground up and pushed the Wiiu to its limits. I’m sure it would look twice as good at least! Agent721 The PS2 was weaker than both the Xbox and the Gamecube. This isnt up for debate, its a fact. Yet it outsold both other consoles combined. Extra power does not equal more fun automatically, its up to each developer to max out the power. Frank The PS2 succeeded because it focused on games and movies, not gimmicky features. 155 million units later it remains the best selling and greatest console of the sixth generation; it didn’t need power to win, it won with games(mainly the GTA series). Richard Yates As much as i loved my ps2 it was piss poorly built 😛 Guest not to mention that it was the ugliest console ever made dasapolis pff, the design is good. It wasn’t all glossy and fancy, but the PS2 sitting a few feet away from me at this very moment is one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen. Maybe it’s nostalgia speaking, but I genuinely like the PS2’s design. Denvy I haven’t really put much thought into ugliest console ever, but PS2 doesn’t strike me as the worse. I thought Xbox was pretty unattractive. Denvy I’m not trying to argue, but how do you mean? Like it breaks/falls apart? I haven’t had any issues with mine in that respect. I got mine new back in 2003. 10 years going strong (knock on wood) Richard Yates I dont mean aestheticaly! is that how its spelt???? I meant reliability, like the fact it stopped playing blue discs then dvds then everything! two of em done it to me the buggers and i didnt buy a 3rd just used my mates slim with the built in lan and pro evo online 😛 Was i the only one who had to turn his upside down for games to boot? doubt it 😀 Denvy That sucks. I had never heard about that issue. Richard Yates As i understand it its down to what serial number ya ps2 had which pointed to what plant it was made at….standards varied to say the least! On the other hand ive had my ps3 slim for 4 years and have only had to replace the hdd! figures. Severus Swerve Ahh, the PS2…Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Tekken, Soul Calibur 2 & 3, Eye Toy etc. I wouldn’t trade that childhood for anything AJ Chioino i loved my ps2. and i agree that because it was a dvd player as well it increased sales. that was one of the reason my parents bought me one after all. i miss the awesome rpgs that the playstation use to have. and whenever i thought about playstation, i always thought about “mature” and “adult humor” type games. loved them. seems like that kinda died off recently. for ps3 anyways. Buduski @Agent721 Its funny you mention that the PS2 being less powerful than the Xbox and Gamecube but still out sold both of them, because I recall the same story happening with the wii, it out sold the PS3 and Xbox 360. So history has made it clear that great games sell consoles, It’s not all about graphics. Denvy Yep, the same could be said about the NES/SMS, SNES/Genesis, Game Boy/ Game Gear Buduski @Denvy Let me throw out a few more names, DS/PSP or even the 3DS/ PS Vita, It’s obvious what the results have been. I have faith the wii u sales will pick up after E3. Nathaniel Lopez It has already started to pick up. After the Xbox one reveal sales have boosted up, but that’s old news, but, when I get on MH I play with a few new people who say that they just bought the Wii U and they think that it’s awesome as well as MH. That always makes me happy to hear that. Buduski Still haven’t played MH, but I’ve heard good things. bizzy gie Hello. I can tell you’re new. Welcome to Disqus’ interface. Um…yeah you don’t have put “@……”. Using the ‘reply’ link will automatically send them the notification. Buduski Yeah I realized that after I checked my e-mail a while ago Bemeovo Well actually, SNES was more powerful than Mega Drive. Denvy You know what, think you’re right, my mistake. Denvy But the mega drive did have…blast processing! lol. PKUltima The Genesis/Megadrive had a much faster processor than the SNES which is why there is so many Shoot-em-ups on the Genesis. It’s because it could handle much more stuff on screen without slowing down like the SNES. The Super Nintendo kicked the Genesis’ ass in every other category though. AJ Chioino and it had Doom. i remember the red cartridge for snes to this day. was unique. wish i still had it. and hey! i played that game around the age of 10 or so and NEVER had the urge to shoot up a school! WoodenSaucer It also came out 2 years after the Genesis. Revolution5268 yup and the mega drive was winning the console race, until sage decide to put more power in the console and thats how it lost. snes(weaker) vs mega drive+CD+32x(powerful)=weaker consoles ALWAYS WINS. William Cole You hit that right on the nail… well the SNES was like Bemeovo said, more powerful EXCEPT for clock speed. Alex Nintendo always had their system very powerful but the Wii is Nintendo’s first console that was weak. Revolution5268 nope the nes was weaker then the sega master system. TwinTails That’s right, the master system had a larger color palette and could show more sprites on screen. Alex I heard that NES was stronger than 7600. Justin Downer Nes was also 2 years older Agent721 Totally correct! Its about the games and the fun delivered. Justin Downer PS1 was also weaker than the N64 yet it won same goes for Wii, hardware isn’t everything if it was everyone would be gaming on PC’s val berger It’s not about graphics but software and good support. the wii and the ps2 both were quite good for casuals, the wiiu has the problem that mobile devices invaded the casual market, that’s why Nintendo tries to appeal more like a not-just-casual-but-also-core-console. and I think this is one of the huge identity-problems, they’re sufering as for core gaming, people may tend to buy a sony or ms-console over a wiiU and will still use the WiiU for casual gaming. Even if it could do more. It’s just the thing that Nintendo never said ‘This is a casual console, delivering the best casual-performance possible’ nor the same thing with core gaming. And I think people want to know in which direction they should categorize a system. With games like Batman, AC3 or Ninja Gaiden, The system appealed more like going down the core-gaming path, with games like Nintendoland or Game & Wario it’s a casual thing. I guess over the next weeks and months, this picture will start to get clearer as more and more software (& announcements) are emerging. Buduski I’ve heard this from a few people that the wii u has identity issues but having diversity in games is actually a good thing. I would like it if Nintendo could deliver hardcore game experiences and casual game experiences. In all honesty the only console I see with identity issues is a recently anounced cable box/skype box/ “console” Xbones. A gaming console should always be about the games and then the extras it can do not the other way around. If i want to skype I already own an Ipad, a celphone and a laptop. val berger Hm, I don’t really think so. The XBox one may be ignoring real gamers but it’s not like that’s not an identity. In fact, there are plenty of people who will actually be the perfect target group for such a system, as many just treat gaming as something nice for the time during the commercial breaks when watching TV. Of course from the view of a real gamer, that may seem pathetic, but I think especially because Microsoft is heading for a target group that hasn’t been put in such a focus so far, they may have at least some success with that. And I’m actually not really speaking about you and me, we already have WiiUs and surely got other reasons for that. But if you’ll reach a certain mainstream, you just gotta have some core-message everyone somehow understands. I wouldn’t say that any of the new consoles have this as clear as it was in the last generation, but still with the WiiU, Nintendo seems to have a real communication problem. Although I’m starting to get confident that this won’t be such an issue, once the E3-lineup rolled out. Buduski I really can’t disagree that Nintendo has had some lousy marketing done for the wii u but the only reason I mentioned the X1 is because I (like many others) was let down at Its reveal. CapnCrumbles436 Part of the reason we were let down is because we were led to believe two things. 1)That it would blow WiiU out of the water 2)That it would be primarily a gaming machine The problem is that this generation is darn near photo realistic, so the difference in visual quality is almost negligible. The second problem is that Microsft has always aimed to dominate the living room. Remember the Xbox was a CD/DVD player, stored mp3 files and played games. 360 was the next step. It’s a natural progression. You know what they say: Try to be everything to everyone, you’ll end up being nothing to everyone. val berger I gotta say, I didn’t feel like being let down as I really didn’t expect anything of interest for me. I barely played the 360 during the past years and I knew in advance that this system isn’t meant to be owned by me. And as I’m not the target group anyway, I kinda like the fact, that the X1 at least somehow tries to go in a direction. Maybe I like that, because that direction is so not mine that I don’t even have to think about buying that system one day and still I think in a marketing-view it may not be the worst move they did. Sure they made very many gamers angry and I absolutely agree on everything but if you just don’t see it as a real gaming system, it’s not that bad after all. For those who are into the whole kinect-drm-TV-bullshit …. In the end, the guys at rev3gaming nailed it down when they said, that Sony never really clarified where they’re standing and that their position might be quite similar in terms of that used-games-policy. MS might just have held this event to somehow clarify the facts no one wants to hear about that generation, which will be the same with sony anyways. In this case, this could really mean a huge advantage for Nintendo, maybe not in a financial way, but for their image, as they would be the only company who doesn’t go after that DRM-activation-bullshit. The only problem is, that in this case, they will get even more problems with some publishers, as it surely wasn’t just Microsofts idea to come up with this whole activation-madness but also from those publishers who also wanna grab some cash on the used gaming market. Buduski I’ll be honest, I know alot of people dislike DRM and im probably one of them,but I sort of have mixed feelings about that, yes its is bullshit you should have to pay extra for a used game. Personally I dont really mind because i dont buy many used games but i know there are gamers that depend on used games just to be able to play a new title and that sucks what there doing to them, but on the other hand they are supposed to be using this as a sort of “anti piracy” move wich we all know the pirates are gonna find a way around as they always do, so my question is should you really put the used game market in the position it will undoubtably be in? Knowing a used game could cost close to the same price as a new game due to activation fees? Meaning you will probably get less in return for your trade ins because the middle man would not be making as much or possibly any profit from used games? I’m all up for anti piracy but giving gamers less options in a sense is a big NO NO in my opinion val berger of course it is a NO; I’m one of those gamers relying on the ability of used games as I often just don’t really see why I should pay up to 70 bucks for a game that just doesn’t offer as much value as a game like ..say skyrim which keeps you playing for months. and I’m not talking about pure gamelength or scale, but the work, a studio has put into a game. 70 bucks is really too much for most of the games. funny that I’m especially talking about the WiiU launch titles which where just ports of other consoles. sure they hired a studio just to do some WiiU specific features, but still it was just crazy to ask their customers for such an amount of money. It’s no wonder that people are going for a used game in this case. But yeah, about that used game model with activation fees on the X1, it’s crazy. I know that the studios kinda need this and as I said my guess is that Sony will go down the same path, but still, there should be a better compromise. In this case, they’re shitting in their customers’ faces all along. I would totally understan, that I have to support the developer when I’m buying a used game, but not for the price of a full game. Although I believe, MS has already clarified that it won’t be the full price, still it all sucks and destroys a huge part of the gaminghorizon like we know it today. for chrissake, people can’t even borrow a game to a friend. this just goes too far. but actually, that’s the point where I gotta say, it just won’t work that way. They should know better. I understand the used-game-issue as it may really affect sales, but they will just burn their fingers when they really start to think they can tell their customers how to handle their social life. it’s absolutely ridiculous. WoodenSaucer I agree with you that there is a huge target market for the XB1 that is different from the gamer market. But we’ll have to wait for them to reveal the price to see how successful it will be with that market. HTPCs are a dime a dozen, and they’re cheap. If the price is high, will it be worth it to a lot of people to pay for a high-end HTPC? val berger I don’t think it’s gonna be that high. I don’t know, at least Sony may have learned their lesson from the pS3-launch where they had to cut the price for 1 third of the original price. And the main reasin, everybody now uses PC-Architecture is mainly becasue it’s cheaper to go that way. They’ll still sell it at a loss so they may be able to sell it at a price like 400-450$ which isn’t that much for a system, where every game costs 70 bucks and that you own for 6-7 years. But it’s gonna be interesting to see who’s gonna have the most expensive system. CapnCrumbles436 The problem with your analysis is that people are neither 100% hardcore or 100% casual. I’m actually in marketing. The fact of the matter is that people do not always fit into the pre determined market segments we have set form them. We are talking about living breathing people, each one unique. We are also talking about an industry which is constantly adapting and changing. I happen to think that Nintendo is positioned perfectly to be able to capitalize on the next generation of gaming. The landscape IS changing and Nintendo has historically been ahead of the curve. val berger of course it’s not as black & white but especially because everything’s always changing, customers need some orientation and that’s why I think that the company with the USP that’s cear enough for every kid to understand will win the race (if some other more obvious terms are working as well) And as I said, it’s not like Nintendo’s direction would be so blurry and Sony’s & MS would be so clear. Absolutely not. My guess that in the Big picture, Nintendo will stand for Games and Gameplay and Sony & Microsoft for Performance & Technology. Sony somehow accidentally did the smart thing of being uncreative about what they do. They are just creating a successor to the PS3 in every angle and I guess this can’t really go that wrong as everyone will know from the beginning what to expect and what not. And thats why it’s good that MS is heading for a bit different market by kinda-rebooting their franchise. Although this technology-generation somehow seems amazingly uninspired considering that it’s been nearly 8 years since the XB360 launched, it’s interesting to see how the cards have been shuffled. The upcoming months are gonna be really thrilling, especially for us Nintendo-fans 🙂 Ryan House I think Nintendo would of Done better during the gamecube Generation if they used DVD technology just like their competition. Then games wouldn’t have to be compressed so much. Justin Downer Same as the CD thing on the N64 Denvy I don’t really know. I’m not convinced that people didn’t buy it because of the media choice. I think there were a lot of additional factors. Ryan House Well nintendo’s use of cartridges instead of CDs was the reason they lost so many developers to the Playstation. most people know the playstation was supposed to be a CD addon for the SNES but sony would of made all the profit on hardware nintendo would be like third party. the largest n64 Cartridge was 64Megabytes 512Megabits. that is very small compared to 700Megabytes for a single CD. Alot of PS games came out on 3 or 4 CDs Denvy Right. the DVD medium was certainly better for developers, no doubt. But I don’t think it would have helped them sell 10s of millions more. I think it still would have been more of the same multi plat, but not Nintendo system deal. I loved my Cube though. Chris Heskin Kinda like how “X” looks light years ahead of anything I’ve seen on either sides of the fence. Nintedward Yes! And it will look unbelievable when its finished! lot of replies lol thx! If I answer them all I’ll be spamming! Richard Yates Considering what they squeezed out of the wii for xeno the mind does boggle. JWHO Don’t worry when Nintendo unleashes this E3 with their new IPs and 1st party titles your wish…OUR wishes!!! will come true 🙂 (arm raised to the heavens) MTGSWE We don’t need to worry. 12 days more before E3 and nintendo direct 😀 We will have a blast that week! Marius Valasinas F**k Yeah!!!! Ony Well, a LAZY developper is a good developper: they find the easyest way to finish the job in the minimum time possible. And I’m lazy as fuck. console.log(“whatever”); Freez0 Reggie has spoken! jay My thoughts to a T. I’d like to add, If you REALLY wanna compare Wii U to 360, you have to use the 360’s first gen games. Otherwise it’s quite unfair to use a 2012 360 game that’s using the full power of the 360 to a game that’s barely pushing the Wii U today. Guest That 800MHz GPU 3.24GHz CPU rumor still hasn’t been debunked yet. gimpcell What the absolute hell are you talking about? Have you played the games? What is debunked is people calling the other consoles new when they offer almost the same tech as pc in all aspects. tronic307 Did your Wii U melt? No. *DEBUNKED!* bizzy gie Criterion found this out a while ago while Nintendo and we Wii U owners have known since ever. Nintedward Criterion just gave the xbox 360 code a feather dusting and put it on Wiiu lol. There is still so so much more untapped potential than that. 2 years from now , NFSMWU will look dated on Wiiu… Chris Heskin my body is ready Richard Yates it was built for pc’s an stripped down for all consoles. Justin Downer Best way to do it. Agent721 As with every console, the games will always look better in two years. That’s a solid given. TwinTails But wasn’t the Wii U version using PC textures? If that’s still not enougth then I am terrified of what the next 3D Mario or Smash Bros could look like. Agent721 Yep, NFS Wii U is the best looking version of that game per the developer interview on IGN. The game looks great, I would highly recommend it to anyone. It looks way better than Forza or Gran Turismo. Especially the background detail & lighting. Bob Wilkerson Why is this still news?? Oh I know why because some publishers/developers ::cough:: EA ::cough:: like to bitch about how weak the Wii U is. The R700 GPU in the Wii U is a RadeonHD 4xxxx or 5xxxx class GPU and while that is not really top of the line is pretty good for a console of $300. Regardless it is generations ahead of the 360 and PS3 GPUs used and has more graphic capability. All that being said it will most likely be behind the XBOX “Spy” One and PS4 but is more than capable of playing games built on modern game engines. Richard Yates And it has chips on it no-one knows the purpose of, custom shaders i bet. Sydney Ultrasyd You know those guys come from demsocene right ? So you can 200% trust them when they talk about hardware and optimisation. The way to go. I love them and I’m really looking forward to their next games ! John Andalora So a console developed and released in 2012 I has a better GPU than consoles developed and released between 2005-2006…. Okay…. Shouldn’t we stop trying to compare Wii U to the current generation and just look at the console by itself for what it is? Nintedward Tell that to all the ignorant Nintendo haters then please . Thank you… MTGSWE It’s no use. They will never listen to reason 😛 Just ignoring them is easier. Bob Wilkerson ^^^^THIS^^^^ If they can make a constructive argument I will respond but other than that just ignore and move on. What do you have to prove to anyone on what you play, why you play it, and what platform you play it on. Nintedward That’s true bob and that’s what i mostly do. I’m not talking just about internet trolls , I’m talking about people off the internet around me as well. i feel like i’m always trying to explain ”No shut up , your crappy 360 does not have better graphics than my Wiiu , infact the Wiiu is potentially a lot better” Revolution5268 why can’t we block them? Justin Downer No they just call Nintendo users kids for enjoying great single player games and basically caring more about gameplay. Let them get back to their COD/Madden/BF3, i’ll take new Nintendo games anyday. david jarman Tell that to EA and every other hater. It always starts off with some idiot saying that the wii u is weak and they usually compare it with last gen and then when a developer that has had actual experience says its more powerful then the ps360. Either the haters or someone like you alway say why are you comparing something that came out 2012 to something that came out 2005. Will this cycle ever end? John Andalora I think both sides need to stop doing it. Haters say its weaker than current gen, while lovers say it’s better. Comparing it to others in either light only devalues it by pushing it to the standard of current generation consoles, rather than just a console. It shouldn’t be compared to current gen because it’s not trying to compare itself to current gen: it’s just trying to be a new console for Nintendo. That’s my two cents on it. david jarman And I agree. Justin Downer Actually they can’t understand specs but claim to anyways, On paper the Video card is easily better and the CPU is still questionable but it doesn’t matter Hardware does not make the game more fun. All their great gameplay games will have 8 hours or less of gameplay. Revolution5268 and the worst part is people actually believe it. Bob Wilkerson Yeah just like people believed that the Wii U was underpowered because Frostbite didn’t work on it neglecting the fact that other engines just as powerful and power hungry already have been shown to work on it just fine. So it was that no effort was put into making Frostbite 2 or 3 work on the Wii U Super Buu I think people should get this by now. If they don’t, I pity those poor souls. ZakAttack7 Well thank you Shin’en. Good to know there are people out there who aren’t blinkered mongs 😉 slade6alpha I’m loving this site! Not many trolls and pure Nintendo news, both ways. Unlike IGN… Luna Moonfang The Legend says…once upon a time, a man called “knowledgeiswhatsup” existed in this capitalized world… He was a man of evil, treatening every foe who would dare stand against him… But the heroes of justice managed to make knowledge’s dark heart blight with pure light. Those were times of light… … Darkness fell upon the world. Knowlegdeiswhatsup is know recognized as the biggest “troll” of the decade… Many heroes tried to stop the rampaging hate of knowledge…although without sucess. It was a infinite stream of hate this man implied in our world, and still growing… ~~~ The Legend of Trolls says to our people in it’s last chapter: “One may not argument with Trolls and haters, as those are fed by this behavior. One may only eliminate this race by simply letting them fade away without argumenting with them. They will eventually starve…” ~~~ Luna, the Moonrider “For Selemene!” Genesect4ssb4 But before knowledgeiswhatsup, there was one who was even more evil and powerful. He/she went by the name of Donaald. He was rampant on this site. Always at every corner, Donaald would talk trash about the Wii U every chance he/she got, to the point where people were asking the Wii UDaily moderators to ban him/her. Hovwer, with the combined powers of Nintedward, Laudividni, myself and all the other Wii U supporters on this site, we became one with each other and took him/her out. Donaald pleaded guilty and apologized to us because apparently his mother had caught him typing curses and she got angry. After Donaald apologized, he/she was never seen again, but only to be replaced by Knowledgeiswhatsup. Once knowlegdeiswhatsup is defeated, who will be the next legend troll? All I know is that the next troll will never acheive the notoriety that Donaald did. shshufflelufflepie38 Donaald is knowledeiswhatsup. Clicking on knowledges profile brings up donaald. TwinTails Damn, then we got mind-fucked real hard. D: jay Yeah he ran out of excuses why the Wii U sucked after the xbox one reveal. Justin Downer The community of IGN are hiloulars on the amount of stupidity they show and i’m not even talking about the commenters that’s a whole different story. Johny nice to hear stuff like this MTGSWE Never doubt that it was. Even though it’s great to hear, I will play games for the gameplay. Nice to hear though. ancientgamer well there is a saying you get out what you put in, glad to know some publishers know this, if its too (ea)sy its not worth it uPadWatcher Nano Assault Neo is one of the shining examples and Shin’en Games is one of the few. tronic307 Aw man, I can feel it coming. People are going to be all like 8th gen this and GPGPU that, when all we really want is to play some real Nintendo games in HD. We should see those soon, but when do we get to play them? Ony “Developer Shin’en says Wii U GPU ahead of current gen because fuck you, that why.” :3 Andrew Chambers Well if it’s only half as much as the GPU leap from DS to 3DS then yeah, it’s way ahead. The 3DS GPU has been fully striped down and you can get a full spec rundown on it. If a dev decided to ignore the 3D option, the 3DS technically has a better GPU then the Vita. That’s why the new Sonic game looks so good on the 3DS, it’s because much like the Wii U, if devs start utilizing the GPU more then the CPU then the games look way better. Fun fact: The GPU uses less power then the CPU for roughly the same output. Bob Wilkerson “Fun fact: The GPU uses less power then the CPU for roughly the same output.” Which is why big chip makers are trying to find ways to use the GPU for processing more than graphics these days. It is what started the evolution of the APU and putting the graphics core on the same die as the CPU. Andrew Chambers Yeah, the HP 4000 chipset is quite powerful for an integrated chip. Michael Durkopp You know, I think people are acting just like when the 16-64bit wars happened. People seem to care about the specs than the actual gameplay. Personally, the hardware is nice and all, but all that doesn’t matter when a game is crap in terms of gameplay. Take Sonic the hedgehog 2006 (Most of my friend gamers deny it exists XD), it had really good graphics but VERY poor programming that became the biggest bomb of 2006. I see this, hardware only gives dev’s more room to make things they weren’t able to do in the past years and make more amazing things! Like batman Arkum series or Uncharted for example. Even on the Wii, Super Mario galaxy was a great game, even though the hardware was limited. What I’m getting at is, we don’t always need the best of the best specs to play a good game. While the specs do make more room for creativity, its up to the devs that are WILLING to try out the system and see what they can make of it. I know Shin’en Multimedia has taken time to get the systems enough to make fun downloadable titles that have simple and fun gameplay while archiving high quality graphics. Criterion has taken SOMEtime to get the system enough that it ended up being the best port on the WiiU so far (I’m saying port because it didn’t come out the same release year). I’m not sure if they took the time to get the system or not but it seemed that they took care of this when changing the code and adding pretty much god mode on the gamepad. So next time people are taking trash about a system because of the its specs, just say “Your missing out” and walk away. (I wanted to type that badly, sorry) gamesplayswill Probably one of the best comments on WIIUdaily! (Sorry Nintedward!) Jeovany Is this argument still going on. OF COURSE THE WII U MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX 360 AND PLAYSTATION 4 THERE 7 YEAR OLD. The technology in them is so out dated that Nintendo would lose money having to part that are less powerful. It’s illiterately impossible for them to do that. Is the wii u more powerful than the plastation 4 and xbox 720 that a different story. Sam People that say bad things about the WiiU are probably paid by MS and SONY. Shaise Mughal Yeah, its an evil conspiracy, they probably did the same to Sega, well we wont budge! Will you sam? Sam NO WAY! I’m a Nintendo person all the way! gamesplayswill FINALLY!, some one who can actually stand up for the Wii U and say it’s powerful. What really pisses me is when trollers are like “IT SAYS IN A EA ARTICLE THAT WII U SUCK LOLOLOLOL”. But when a positive article comes out and says “The Wii U is capable of next gen graphics.” they disregard it completely! I mean talk about idiocy! Bemeovo IKR? Uneducated Wii U haters… gamesplayswill Yeah, but then they’ll say “WII U WILL NEVOH BE AS GOOD A Xboox!!! ROFL LMFAO!!!” When the Xbox isn’t out and when the WII U is only half a year old. Well, I hope they have fun playing COD 37…Errr I mean COD ghosts. Andreas Sunde Hey! Be fair! We’re only at CoD 10! gamesplayswill 10!, eeerm, shouldn’t it stop soon!? Bob Wilkerson But doesn’t the new COD coming out have a dog?? That will make the game so much better won’t it? MTGSWE Don’t forget the AI in the fish!! They will swim away if you get close. oooooh progressing with games is wonderful isn’t it? And the dog is someone you care about apparently 😛 Cod is like ea sports game, small changes. gamesplayswill Was sarcasm intended? Bob Wilkerson Yes… I just found it funny how so much time was focused on adding a dog to the game as if that is going to be the killer feature of the game. gamesplayswill I find it funny too. I’m not even a dog person myself. david jarman Finally! Someone posted this article!!! Thank you, Ashley! Shaise Mughal Yeah, doesnt this mean EA sucks because they dont know how to develop for a console, and they’re too lazy & selfish, everything about them sucks david jarman Well, it means most of them do. However, criterion and crytek are both awesome companies that actually put effort that work for EA. Rumor is though that criterion might be leaving. Rumor though. Justin Downer Its just one of the reasons lets not forget Sim city after that game i can care less about that console. I just wish they would go bankrupt and give their game franchise to other big companies. Enigma I think that you have all forgotten about the Wii U’s weak CPU, though. Either way, the PS4 and One will be leaps and bounds ahead of the Wii U anyways. gamesplayswill Well a consoles CPU is only really needed to load textures and render rooms etc, but I heard Nintendo use the CPU more though. Andrew Chambers Actually, the GPU can do that better. Cerus98 Depends on how the game is made. They can either be CPU or GPU reliant or somewhere in between. Darkness I could be wrong, but some pretty credible sources have said that the Xbox One and PS4 will have 1.6 GHz of processing speed. The Wii U has 1.24 GHz of processing speed. Clock speed does not determine how powerful a system is so please stop with this clock speed stuff Daniel Schwarz These days, CPU capability has more to do with number of cores/threads and cache size than raw power. An 8 core 1.6 GHz CPU could be both very capable and extremely efficient when properly utilized. Darkness Yup said that in my last sentence “Clock speed does not determine how powerful a system is”. You just went into detail about it. On another note you are completely correct 🙂 Daniel Schwarz Cheers! 🙂 Andrew Chambers Actually, a lot of devs don’t know how to utilized multicore CPU’s that well. I’m glad when I come across a game that does because it runs quite well on my system. Skyrim only uses the first two cores. Daniel Schwarz Unlike a PC where the architecture is variable, obviously a console’s hardware is consistent and standard. As such, it would make sense for developers to further take advantage of parallel processing this generation as they tailor their code to the system they’re developing for. Andrew Chambers True, but a game like Skyrim was designed for the PC in mind. I will admit that I’m not entirely sure, but I doubt that it uses all the cores on the 360. Let’s be honest, most console devs rarely push a system to its limits. Daniel Schwarz That’s probably true. These days budgets and development tools can be more of a limiting factor than hardware. Bob Wilkerson It depends on how they are developed… If the move to x86 was driven by trying to make the games easier to develop from PC to Console then I am not sure we will see efficient utilization of those cores at least right away. Games developed for PC barely use dual or quad core. Besides these new consoles are very GPU driven when it comes to the games and the CPU is only really used for the dashboard and non gaming processing. Seeing as Microsoft has to run 3 OSes on the XBOX One and I am going to assume Sony will have a lot in their OS too the cores may be needed as their OS appears to be way more bloated than the simpler Wii U OS. Sure Sony and MS will have more powerful GPUs too which will achieve better graphics in some cases but I do not think they will be as significant as people are thinking they will be. With 1080p being the limitation there is only so much you can do and one of the reason’s games look better on PC is because of the monitors being geared more towards computing and having higher resolution capabilities in many cases. Daniel Schwarz Obviously. These comments don’t say the Wii U is on par with XB1/PS4, they’re saying the XB360/PS4 are not on par with the Wii U. Bob Wilkerson If you think that 1.6Ghz CPU in the XBOX “Spy” One and PS4 is that much stronger you are in a world of hurt. Don’t be fooled by the 8 cores because those cores are based on the AMD Jaguar core which is comparable to the Intel Atom in terms of performance. Don’t get me wrong I am a huge AMD Fan and have been since before the original Athlon but those cores are meant for low power consumption. All of these consoles this generation are very GPU driven and basically use APUs which use the CPU and GPU more efficiently together. So the XBOX One and PS4 will be more powerful than the Wii U but leaps and bounds they will not. Only the simple minded fall for specs. Enigma Only the simple minded don’t understand the specs. Just ignore the legions of devs that praise the PS4’s hardware, huh? I understand the technical jargon, and yes, I understand the lack of efficiency that multiple cores can have. But you’re missing the massive amount of RAM that the consoles have. That is a HUGE deal. It will be a significant improvement over the Wii U, on top of all the other great features, at least for the PS4. I don’t know what the One is, in terms of wth it does. Bob Wilkerson I completely understand the specs… The question is how much of that massive amount of ram is being eaten up by the OS and other tasks of the console not related to gaming. Also if these games are 32bit (despite the 64bit processor) then there is a limitation on how much RAM can be used by that one particular game. In PCs it is usually around the 2GB mark. The RAM is shared so the OS takes it’s share too especially with the XBOX One because I cannot imagine having 3 OSes talking to each other being very efficient. Enigma “I completely understand the specs… The question is how much of that massive amount of ram is being eaten up by the OS and other tasks of the console not related to gaming.” Already answered. Look it up. And it is an impressive number. Bob Wilkerson Answered by who?? Sony? Please link because I would like to read that.. All I have read is rumors which range from saying less than half the ram is accessible to game to up to 7GB but all rumors. It is still shared ram much like is done in a PC and will have the limitations of 32bit software just like a PC if they are going with the model of developing for PC and then porting to Playstation or XBOX One. Don’t get me wrong, the PS4 is pretty impressive for a console and as long as Sony stays focused on Games first they should be pretty successful. From what has been presented so far I fail to see what Sony is doing to really improve or innovate on the gaming experience. Not to mention this extra potential power this console has will come at a price I am sure unless Sony is willing to take more losses in profits. The XBOX One looks to be a disappointment to me at this point as I am nt a fan of their take over your TV box they are pushing which also does not seem to be doing anything super exciting for the gaming experience. The voice controls sound nice but I find that voices from the TV or other people in the room can distract the console and really turned me off from using the Kinect on my 360. To me this is all like the hardcore bragger gamer that builds their gaming PC with the top end processor and 16GB of ram just to brag and make fun of people that their game can achieve 90 -120 FPS compared to another gamer only getting 60FPS. What it all comes down to is the games and how you play them. Not confident that Sony and Microsoft will innovate very much in that arena. Just my two cents Chris Heskin What, you’re not excited for sony’s mood light on the controller?I see that really innovating the game experience /sarcasm Justin Downer Does it still change colors? Justin Downer Sorry to say but the fact that you even mention “But you’re missing the massive amount of RAM that the consoles have.” Shows you know little about gaming in general Enigma Oh, sorry. I guess that me and all the devs that sang about how crucial the drastically increased RAM was are completely wrong. So sorry for that. Justin Downer They always hype up consoles that’s their job its funny how you don’t see that Enigma Just because the Wii U has a weak memory doesn’t mean that you have to convince yourself that RAM is not important. Justin Downer No i understand it quite well and you don’t for a 1080P screen that much memory is just wasteful, i bet you don’t even know no PC has that much memory does that mean the PS4 is “better” no not over Vram. Really i can’t even believe you think that. Justin Downer Ram is barely even used 2GB is easily enough with a light OS. Guest You seem very fond of specs instead of games. No Backward compatibility, Used games fees, Mandatory Internet Connection. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n9j65ZmTIM Enigma You seem to not understand that specs are the only thing that determines the potential of games on a console. Put a game on the PS4, and then the Wii U. PS4 game will be vastly superior. CEObrainz Even though this is kinda obvious, it’s nice to know every once in a while that developers know this too. Potemkin I’d like to play this game. I’ve played most of their great games and these people really know how to do their thing. But on the other hand, for other developers, creating an engine from zero for only one platform can be a bit frightening, and even more when you see how poor their games sell. Sidney Majurie We know this already and you won’t convince the haters and trolls even with solid proof on their face so don’t know who these articles are for… Sidney Majurie The sad thing is that Shin’en is a relatively small development house. Just goes to show you that the these big multi million dollar studios are just lazy and bold faced liars. Justin Downer Lazy and greedy, also uncreative. Sidney Majurie Especially not creative. That’s why they are so concerned with system specs because they aren’t creative to make next gen GAMEPLAY instead of just prettier current gen games. Justin Downer So true Carlos Andres Uribe no one gives a crap which console do you buy… just get what entertain you most!! Ninjendo Maybe I am off base here, but tell me what everyone thinks about this idea. Devs keep using the “Wii U isn’t powerful enough” excuse when really they just don’t wanna make games for it because it allows used games. Devs wanna make games for the PS4 (although they haven’t clarified if they will allow used or not) and the Xbone because they will get a cut of that money for used games. Sad, but true. Only Ubisoft and Indie Devs are making games for Wii U. Just look at what EA is doing. They said it is crap and blah blah blah, but once Xbone had its reveal and the backlash came in from gamers they changed their mind and said that they were making games for Wii U. Obviously stupid, but I think that is what is happening here. Cerus98 I think MS dispelled the used game fee rumor. Games can be sold and by installing it on a new console it will deauthorize the previous consoles install when it dials back to MS. Bob Wilkerson But this method leaves it wide open for the game publisher to block any reactivation on any other console. I think that is where they are going. Justin Downer Actually retailers will have to pay for it and believe me they will pass the cost to you. Steelmullet I hope that it isn’t just nintendo that will utilize the full potential on wii u. Get some capcom RE spin offs to show what it can do or something. Louie Alexander Vassall well this is cool I got a free Wii points card code and it was legit! I got it from freewiipointsforever► com Freez0 Nice to hear some good about the wii u. William Cole People talk crap about the Wii U because there isn’t a Nintendo first party in sight that just shows off the Wii U. I know that 3D Mario, Smash Bros., Zelda, and Mario Kart will deliver the goods soon enough. The Wii U hasn’t even started yet and I think 4 million consoles is a good start with nothing on it. (I know some idiot will say “nyah it sold 3 million, well I rounded you dummie.) The Wii U is definitely the most innovate console on the market and the future market. Being able to play a full fledged console game in the palm of your hands is just unheard of. This should be Nintendo’s main campaign. It is really amazing to me. Playing the new Zelda in bed on my GamePad will be great. I don’t care what others say about Wii U. I’m going to enjoy its time here. I’m sure Nintendo knows how to make some pretty good games. Oh yeah, and Sonic’s new game seems to be a lot more platform based than just speeding by everything and not even knowing why you are speeding. I think that Nintendo’s Sonic gain will make or break him. Why am I talking about Sonic? Well anyway, Wii U. It’ll only get better. And with potential GBA, DS, and Gamecube games being released on it the Wii U would be on fire. And not the bad kind like right now. ItzameyaToad I agree with everything you said. Everyone is saying the Wii U has no games and stuff, well 4 million units sold in about 6-7 months is pretty damn good for not having games if ya ask me. Also it is amazing I sat down and thought of the possibilities of the Wii U with it’s backwards compatibility. Basically in my room I can put my Gamecube to play Gamecube games and my Wii U to play Wii U games plus all my Wii games I own! So basically I can get the library of 3 consoles on two seperate systems! Now If they come out with Gamecube games on the E-shop(only a matter of time before they do) it will be 10 times better to have 3 console generations of games on one device!! The reasons to love Nintendo just keep comin! Shaise Mughal And in total 6, because from the NES, Even better! Michael DeVore I suspect EA and others are talking smack to justify not developing because Nintendo didn’t cave to Project 10 Dollar: Used Game Edition Justin Downer Yeah and origin, guys do we even care if Nintendo has no EA games i mean NFS maybe but besides that there’s plenty other games we should do a vote on it do we even care if EA matters? Arthur Jarret Agreed. I’d love to see all the Nintendo Fangirls do a pole on it. Justin Downer Thanks actually fixed that haha at first i was like hey he is calling me a fangirl and then i was like oh. Michael DeVore We all know EA, they are pretty lame, but I might miss a Bioware Game. Nikola Radojko Radojkovic This is for all those Wii U haters … http://24.media.tumblr.com/cce0ec93b329d96bc4fcf65eabe4ddcf/tumblr_mnjlcjB8Hw1r0hpwwo1_500.jpg Nintendofreak wow just like life Ony Most of us are not in the “we”, actually :3 Nikola Radojko Radojkovic I know … I’m not in “we” too … But this how I found It EhenTi LaNero someone please tell these people that a port is the same game so if a port for wii u comes from PS3 or 360 its going to look like PS3 and 360. y does it take for people to see this. could PS3 or 360 push that ZELDA e3 DEMO or the Japanese Wii U water garden DEMO… I THINK NOT!!!! Mark Thom I LOVE BAD BITCHES THAT”S MY FUCKING PROBLEM john Well it’s important not to blame all women for this or to jump to the conclusion that any given woman would do what the women you knew previously may have done to hurt you. The truth is, despite what you may have gathered from your own experiences, not all women are jerks, in fact, most of them are not. However, that’s not to say that women who show certain qualities are not more likely to have devious tendencies. You seem to be aware that you are attracted to malevolent women; I advise you take note of the qualities you’ve seen in women who turned out to mistreat and disrespect you or others. Notice what all of them have in common. Then for a conclusion; do any of these traits seem like a tell-tale sign that she is no good for you? If so, perhaps it may be beneficial for you to avoid these women, even if you are attracted to them. Instead, I advise finding women who have the traits you find attractive, but do not show the ones you have ruled as malignant. If you meet women at a limited number of places, I would also advise a change in scenery, for example if you usually hang out at a bar or club, you might find better matches in other clubs or bars, or even other places such as a gym. I hope everything goes well for you in the future, and hopefully my advice shines some light on your problem. If you would like to schedule an appointment, my consulting hours are between 8 and 5 every other Thursday. slade6alpha Guys… really random question that has nothing to do with this article. I’m looking for a Wii U game to buy because there’s nothing that interest me until Pikmin 3 and Luigi in August. I was thinking of MH3U, but I’ve never played this game before and I know it requires a steep learning curve and hours invested. How hard is it really and can I play it with just the gamepad… Thanks!!! Ice Climbers If you already own NSMBU, then the Luigi DLC will be available in June. Lego City Undercover is really fun. I also recommend Resident Evil Revelations. Fantastic game, and Infernal Mode makes the original 3DS game’s Hell Mode look like a beginner mode. slade6alpha Loved NSMBU, I want that green case for collector’s sake, loved Lego City, no interest in survival horror; I’m guess you haven’t played MH. Chris Heskin I wouldn’t call it a steep learning curve but I would say it’s a must play. EDIT: Oh yea it does have off tv play on the gamepad. Arthur Jarret Get MH3U, it’s pretty great. After the first two ranks in the village – go online and start playing while asking questions… this will help you get started and negate any steep learning curves. For other recommended titles: Tekken Tag is a solid fighter – and the Wii U version is the most complete edition out there. If you don’t feel like boycotting EA, Need for Speed: Most Wanted is best on Wii U. So is Sonic & Sega ASRT – both are solid racing games. There’s also Injustice – which is a good game no matter what platform you play on. Don’t forget the smaller, cheaper yet awesome e-shop games either! ancientgamer so many ppl bash nintendo because they have nothing nice to say about their console of choice, so to make themselves feel better they bash the big N ChariotMan7 SHIT WHAT UNTIL RETRO’S PROJECT GAME COMES AT E3. IT MAY SHOCK THE WHOLE GAMING INDUSTRY! steinhauershawn The Wii U has EDRAM, GPGPU and a 16/32 Bit Macronix DSP that the 360 and PS3 lacked. ChariotMan7 Facts!! oontz your still comparing it to 7 year old machines. You should be comparing it with the Xbox1 and PS4. steinhauershawn How about my 4 GHZ PC with 32GB of RAM and DUAL Titan NVidia cards with liquid cooling. Now let see who has the most horsepower now? coolspot … can you build that for <500.00? Sora Morp This news is old.. we already know Wii U is stronger than PS3 and 360 Gene Nano Assault Neo Haha, the game runs in 720p, no AA. Very powerful. Chris Heskin Sorry bud but you are wrong, both of my TV’s settings tell me the game is running in full 1080p. you must have a TV that’s max resolution is 720p. further more I’ve never seen my Wii U run anything in 720p unless I manually set it that way. Gene Upscaled to 1080p, just like the 360. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1676919&postcount=5 Guest because a forum posting by some random person is a credible source of information. :end sarcasm: EDIT: he may be a mod or whatever but there’s no source info. so its all hear say TheFinger what concerns me the most is that from what i have read it is easier to develop a game in the PS4 and the Xbox one than in the wii u. So if the third party’s dont have Nintendos full support they will no exploit the wii u to it’s full potential!!! I have already read some developers complaining about the kits. I dont think is a matter of power, because the wii u has a lot, but a matter of money and how much will it cost to develop a game for one console and how much money can they expect to earn for doing it. sorry for my english… Bomberman Even though I still believe Wii U is more powerful than 360 and PS3, but it is no where compared to the specs of the One and PS4. ancientgamer be prepared to be dissapointed, they wont be leaps n bounds over the wii u, like 360 n ps3 where over the wii, while yes they will be better but not what everyone thinks, and in all honesty the wii u dont need to be, wait till dev’x start utilizing the game pad better and for actual game play not just a display, you will see game’s ‘like’ starcraft or maybe even an mmo ‘like’ wow something like that on ps4 or spybox would be subpar at best DemonRoach bring everplanet to wii u. Lophs Gotta throw Wii U a bone sometimes. Just remind Wii U owners before they get too high, “[The] Wii U has a horrible, slow CPU” – 4A games “”We did some tests with not too promising results with [Frostbite 2] & chose not to go down that path.” – DICE “One of the weaknesses of the Wii U compared to PS3 and Xbox 360 is the CPU power is a little bit less” -Koei “”Hahaha no” -Epic Games “Wii-U is something I’d consider more current gen – but we’re not working on games for it.” – Insomniac Games “categorically, finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U” – Eurogamer/Digital Foundry Probably some more but that was on the top of my head CapnCrumbles436 I love Nintendo. I think the WiiU has a lot of potential, but to be fair….Shin’en only develops for Nintendo platforms correct? Wouldn’t that cause them to be biased? Also, I’m not sure that I understand the statement ‘WiiU GPU is several generations ahead of the current gen.’ How can you compare one thing with another that does not yet exist? coolspot Whether or not the Wii U has decent hardware is moot if developers are not supporting it. The fact that there may only be iffy support for Unreal Engine 4 on the Wii U is more of body blow than perhaps EA not publishing for the Wii U.