Today Ubisoft released a brand new teaser trailer for their upcoming game, Assassin’s Creed Rogue. The game follows the story of Shay, a former Assassin now turned Templar who must hunt down his former brothers. The trailer is a story trailer and doesn’t show any gameplay, but the game is being released for PS3 and Xbox 360 exclusively. This was rumored several months ago with the Assassin’s Creed comet rumor, but today’s trailer confirms that Ubisoft is not producing an Assassin’s Creed game for Wii U this year. Assassin’s Creed Unity is the upcoming game set during the French Revolution that also features co-op and will release on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC. Assassin’s Creed fans on Wii U are out of luck this year, it seems. Ubisoft’s catalogue of Wii U games has dried up over the 2014 year, with the last title released on the system being Child of Light, which uses the UbiArt engine originally designed for the Rayman series. As a consolation prize, Rayman is featuring in Super Smash Bros. this year as a trophy. Assassin’s Creed Rogue will be released on November 11. local_offer assassin's creed rogue Nintendo ubisoft wii u stars Further Reading F-Zero X gets updated on Wii U to fix control New Zelda Breath of the Wild trailer and game Super Mario Maker Wii U vs 3DS comparison (vi Get Ocarina of Time on 3DS for only $14 New teaser site for Zelda: Breath of the Wild released How to track NES Classic Mini stock in time for Christmas Zorpix Just sad how they were such a huge supporter in the beginning, but Nintendo’s piss poor marketing (until recently) made them jump ship. Devesh I see what you did there, ship, but they should realize when they dont announce games for Wii u, it will make the fans angry, which will result in poor watch dogs wii u sales…. Bust4cap it will sell poorly anyway. released way too late so pretty much everyone who wants to play it already did it on other platforms. if ubisoft complains about watch dogs wiiu sales, they only have to blame themselves Chris bradford Assuming the Wiiu version of Watch_dogs ever does come…. Daniel Gonzalez It’s probably canceled, or at least will end up that way soon. Lack of release date kinda leans it in that direction. D.M.T Cancelling the Wii U version of Watch Dogs is retarded because they’ve been working on the Wii U version for 3 years at least. They already spend a lot of money on that version so if they cancel it then they are throwing away all that money. Those assholes at Ubisoft need to release it before Smash Bros. is released. Daniel Gonzalez After what happened with Aliens: Colonial Marines, anything is possible. It would be retarded to throw it all away, but when has that stopped them? Gideon I only have a wii u as console, and I was planning to buy watch dogs for wii u at first but now that it’s out and ppl with xbone or ps4 have played it and the hype is over, I won’t even consider getting it anymore… abe i resited buying WD for my other systems so i could get the Wii U version. now i dont care but i’ll still buy it to show support (did the same with one piece) WD best have ALL the DLC with it Zorpix if it’s even coming out anymore abe so its all nintendo fault? not the devs making full ports, not the players for not buying every 3rd party title because something was missing. Dáibhí wotshissurname Kinda Nintendo’s fault for not getting the players to buy the game, I guess, but all of the boycotting of Ubisoft after Rayman doesn not elp. MichelChartrand It’s not necessarily Nintendo’s job to put forth 100% of the advertising budget for games released on their system. They should definitely help where they can, but companies like Ubisoft do a worse job at advertising their Wii U games than Nintendo ever has. It really doesn’t help sales when your customers have no idea you even ported a version to a specific system. Happens with all of these big AAA titles, just look at COD. No Wii U pre-orders are ever available, they wait until the last moment to announce there’s even a version for the Wii U, but avoid talking about it whenever they’re discussing it in the press. matthew garcia It’s been Nintendo’s fault since n64 Alessandro Previti yeah! “Wii U owners, why don’t you want to buy our new game, released 999 months after and without dlc and with missing features but still at full retail price?” Zorpix well no. It’s both their faults. But saying Nintendo didn’t SERIOUSLY drop the ball in the beginning is ignorant at this point D.M.T Dude let it go already. Just move on. Why do you have to keep reminding everyone that Nintendo screwed up in the beginning? It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it’s where you’re at right now that matters. In other words, it doesn’t matter that they screwed up in the beginning, what matters is that they are now trying to make the Wii U a success. Arthur Jarret Nintendo screwed up in the beginning dude! #neverforget D.M.T LOL shut up 😛 Zorpix It does matter that they screwed up in the beginning. they’d have third party support if they didn’t. True, they’re better now, but they really hurt themselves abe Never said they didn’t, they did screw up big time but the problem was 3 fold. Nintendo marketing, 3rd party quick ports and players refusing to buy for any difference to other versions Plenty of blame to BE shamed Zorpix sure. plenty of blame goes all around the table. But I shouldn’t have to buy every single third party game that comes out for a console just to keep the support. The install base was just not there. If the 3rd party devs could’ve done better porting jobs, then maybe we’d be in a different place, who knows? abe Not every third party game, just ones people wanted and not let stuff like “oh its not getting the DLC” become a free pass. I saw plenty of this sites members disregard AC4 purely because it wouldn’t get DLC which turned out to be crap anyway. Sure its different for stuff like cod. Another ubi example. Splinter cell, skipped because lacks local coop not its online coop and MP. Even though the local had a vital flaw that player 2 gained no progress nor rewards but did online. We should of gotten equal ports but we didnt. Instead of ignoring The ports with missing stuff should of been bought new but at discounted price via sales or waiting for the price to drop. That way pubs would see we want games but won’t pay full price for incomplete ports. 3rd parties struggle because of nintendo, they die because of “fans” Jonathan Robitaille “Instead of ignoring The ports with missing stuff should of been bought new but at discounted price via sales or waiting for the price to drop. That way pubs would see we want games but won’t pay full price for incomplete ports.” While I agree and actually did just that with AC4 and RL…many people just bought it for their other consoles because they didn’t want to wait and the Wii U version wasn’t up to snuff. Can’t fault people that wanted an actual ‘current gen’ version of AC4 over a crappy PS360 port for Wii U nor the people who got it for PS360 because it looked as good as the Wii U version but had less bugs and wasn’t missing features. Zorpix I suppose. But typically ill plan to get a game after its price drops, then just forget. Jonathan Robitaille They gave Ubisoft a 3rd party bundle for crying out loud (ZombiU). When is the last time they did that for any 3rd party? Have they ever? Zorpix Prolly not. But it was a game for a console no one saw the point of or truly understood. Most people didn’t even know about it PS4WiiURocks Well im done with Ubisoft and will not get anymore games from them ZeldaFan83 It is partly Nintendo’s fault for not demonstrating to consumers how the Wii U is different from the Wii and also naming it the Wii U didn’t help. Hardcore gamers and Nintendo fans will know that it is a new console but the average consumer won’t. abe tottal agreement there, they was hoping the Wii branding would sell it but it back fired. at least if it was called Wii 2 people would of understood, though persoanlly i liked how nintendo didn’t number systems ZeldaFan83 I liked that too, they always had a unique name for their consoles and for the most part it was always different from the previous one. Although the Nintendo 64 was numbered lol 00EpicGamer00 3DS is numbered too. 😉 Alessandro Previti I believe that’s a serious issue… but am I the only one that reading “Wii U” understood at 1st shot that it was a new console? ZeldaFan83 No you’re definitely not the only one but many, many consumers see Wii in the title and think it’s just a newer bundle of the Wii that comes with a tablet. Where as Playstation has PS1, PS2, PS3 and so on so they understand that it’s a newer console altogether. Zorpix exactly. To this day, I STILL have to explain to people what a Wii U is, and how it’s not just an accessory Arthur Jarret It’s not? Is that why the gamepad isn’t working on my Wii? Zorpix You have it plugged in wrong. Duh. You need to use a micro USB plugged into the console’s USB port Arthur Jarret http://pigroll.com/img/plug_in_usb.jpg Zorpix Typical newb mistake. Don’t worry chap ;p Jarobusa This is lame. How much money would Nintendo need to give these companies to make a few top 3rd party games? Devesh Give me one reason not to hate Ubisoft THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN THE WII U WILL SUCCEED AND ALL THESE COMPANIES WILL BOW DOWN ON THEIR KNEES AND BEG FOR FORGIVENESS….AND THEY WILL BE SLAIN FOR INJUSTICE….. Dáibhí wotshissurname I’m pretty sure Nintendo’s approach would probably be “Oh yay the third paries are back!” greengecko007 And if/when the Wii U turns out to be a success (who’s to say it isn’t already getting there?), how will that change the fact that most Nintendo fans do not buy 3rd party games? The N64 was a success. It didn’t sell as much as the original Playstation, but it was profitable for Nintendo. Were 3rd parties begging to be with Nintendo? No, they were being turned away. The Gamecube sold wrose than the N64, but it still made Nintendo money. Were 3rd parties begging Nintendo then? What about the Wii? That’s some major success, and yet… I don’t think 3rd parties and their relationship with Nintendo works how you think it works. We could wake up tomorrow and find out the 3 million Wii Us were sold over night, and it would likely make little difference to 3rd parties. Alessandro Previti the statement that Wii U owners don’t buy third party games is false. All the third parties Wii U received were released with much delay, and with counter advertisement: instead than “this great game is coming to wii u” it was “this game is not coming.. ok, maybe yes.. but no dlc.. and we cut away some functionalities..” And let’s not take the W101 topic, Wii U owners are not supposed to buy any game that comes to “support the console” but they are free to skip a game if it’s not appealing. W101 has a lame demo and overly complicated controls. But let’s take, for example, a multi platform title, the only one that got release in time with the other platforms releases, and had no cut off features: Rayman. It sold the best on Nintendo platform. greengecko007 First and foremost, The Wonderful 101 is not an Ubisoft game. We’re talking about Ubisoft, or at least I was… “All the third parties Wii U received were released with much delay” Are you aware that AC4 actually released on the Wii U before the PS4 and Xbox One versions? Same thing with Just Dance 2014. Rayman Legends was delayed, but on all systems, not just the Wii U. Splinter Cell released on the Wii U the same date as the other versions. “and we cut away some functionalities” Splinter Cell was a crappy port, but both AC3 and 4, as well as Rayman Legends, are better on Wii U than on last generation consoles, with extra gamepad exclusive features that arguably make it better than even the PS4 or Xbox One versions. “Rayman. It sold the best on Nintendo platform.” It sold the best on PS3. D.M.T Uhmm…Rayman Legends was delayed on Wii U while the other versions got released on time. greengecko007 Perhaps delayed is the wrong word. The Wii U version was delayed, while versions were made for the PS3 and 360. These versions all released at the same time though. Additionally, Wii U owners exclusively were able to play the challenge mode early for free. D.M.T I don’t care about the challenge mode. Release the game on time or you won’t get money from me. I was planning to buy the game in february of last year but since they delayed the game i delayed my purchase indefinitely. Don’t know if i’ll ever buy the game. Mark LaVerne You still haven’t played it? You’ve really missed out on a great game. And the gamepad functionality is brilliant! But hey, each one to him/herself, I guess. (Sad thing is, though, the only point you prove is that Wii U owners don’t buy 3rd party games – even if the Wii U version is the best.) Rinslowe It was a pretty big mistake by Ubisoft to do that to Wii U owners that happened to be Rayman/ Ubisoft fans. Proving that the platform was not the priority, already letting early sales results of AC3 and Zombie U (which did better for them than they’re letting on, looking at the no’ of units sold) affect their decisions. They could have sold more copies I think had they released when the game was ready. And ironically it still sold better on Wii U anyway it seems… Then Watchdogs… The opposite almost. Is there even a release date? Haven’t heard anything for a while. So having exclusive challenges to play early was kind of weak of them, almost. greengecko007 Watch Dogs is obviously bad, I will of course agree to that. I can kind of understand them prioritizing the other versions over the Wii U, because obviously that’s where the bulk of the sales would come from, but putting the Wii U version completely on hold and not releasing even close to the other versions is anti consumer. At that point, why even bother making a Wii U version? However, I have to disagree on Rayman Legends. It was originally supposed to be a Wii U exclusive, scheduled for a February 2013 release. In my personal opinion, I think it’s a very big stretch to think that the game would have sold better on the Wii U if it had released at the time, when it had a much lower install base than in the fall when it ended up releasing. If anything, I think Rayman Legends sold as good as it did on the Wii U because of the increase in Wii U sales during the fall period. The personal anecdotes of a few people claiming they would have given Ubisoft their money in February simply don’t stack up to the people that actually did buy the game in the fall. Finally, I also think it’s a stretch to say that Rayman Legends sold the best on the Wii U. Even if you don’t believe vgchartz saying that it sold best on the PS3, which I don’t blame anyone for being skeptical, there’s no denying that as far as combined platforms go, it sold better on the Playstation and Xbox brand. Rinslowe I think over time it would have sold better, absolutely. Unless you believe that they hadn’t lost quite a few potential sales and on the “fence’rs with their little delay. What does stack up is that people reacted badly to the delay. And again, it is logical to accept that sales were lost on account of that. I though you might make a point of a combined sales for both platforms. But that point is not really something I was concrete on anyway so, hence the “it seems”… More than happy to let that one go, lol… greengecko007 I don’t know of many Ubisoft games that sell consistently well over time. That’s always been something that Nintendo games have accomplished that I rarely see elsewhere. As always though, I’m fine with agreeing to disagree. Differing opinions are fine, and it’s nice to have another perspective. Also, I only brought up the combined platforms sales because I know vgchartz, while saying Rayman Legends sold the best on the PS3, is hardly definitive, and only marginally reliable, evidence. Rinslowe I think with my stats on per console sales were just a little dated. Again, why I left the door open on it. But was too lazy to check it out either way…. 🙂 Jonathan Robitaille selling 350k on an install base of 6.7 million is much more impressive than 500K on an install base of 80 million (PS3). Are you seriously arguing about that? If you care to remember, the install base was at 3.5 million or so in Feb 13. At that time, there was nothing coming out to play on the Wii U. People that bought at launch most likely bought the games and played them to completion by then. I and others were eagerly anticipating Rayman Legends. That was a very bad lull in software releases and hardware sales. The Wii U owners would have gobbled it up way more than when it was released in the fall. Why? Because there wasn’t anything else competing against it. Because all of the 1st party games like Pikmin 3, WWHD, SM3DW, DKTF, TW101 (not really 1st party) hadn’t come out yet people would have purchased a high quality exclusive. It would have made them proud to be Wii U owners…knowing they are getting something the others aren’t. But that was taken away. BTW, the install base only grew another 500-750K by the time RL finally dropped. So again…you’re wrong. You are simply on the wrong side of this argument and hopefull not too stupid to concede and leave it alone. It’s embarrassing. greengecko007 Attachment rates matter to who exactly? Certainly not big companies looking to sell as many units or copies as possible. “You are simply on the wrong side of this argument and hopefull not too stupid to concede and leave it alone. It’s embarrassing.” I’m all for differing opinions and discussion. It’s a shame though that you can’t get past name calling, and are under the delusion that your opinion is any more right than mine. There’s no factual proof either way. Jonathan Robitaille wrong. AC games are straight up PS360 ports that didn’t port over well so they don’t look or perform as good. Rayman Legends is the sole multi-plat that was built from the ground up..and lo and behold it is the definitive version. It also sold best on Wii U when factoring in install base. greengecko007 Personal experience and comparison videos say otherwise. The difference is pretty easy see, especially in AC4. There’s virtually no weather effects on the PS3 or 360, but the Wii U easily handles the pouring rain, lightning, etc. http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/14/assassins-creed-4-graphics-comparison-ps4-ps3-xbox-360-wii-u Jonathan Robitaille 2:03 and you can see that the Wii U was pretty much a straight port from the 360. I agree the PS3 version is abysmal. But there is virtually no difference between 360 and Wii U. At 2:50 the 360 actually looks better than Wii U. A 3:19 it’s negligible with aspects being better on one or the other. But in that sequence you can clearly see that the 360 has the same weather effects. 4:17 identical. same at 4:33. At 5:26 you can see the jaggies of his hair on 360 but not on PS4. Those jaggies are absent on the PS4 the whole game. You are introduced to them the first 10 minutes of the Wii U version when he wakes up. Same with 360. There might be give or take in a scene here or there but the Wii U version is definitely on the last gen quality scale. I thought this was well known. They talked about it ad nauseam when it dropped. Only the most egregious fanboys were claiming it was close to PS4 or way better than 360. greengecko007 That’s interesting because in all of the Xbox 360 and Wii U comparisons I see better lighting and shadows on the Wii U version. In the sequence where Edward is swimming in the storm, you do get an equal amount of weather effects on both versions, that’s true. But at what cost? Looks like a better draw distance on the Wii U to me. You can see the ship on the left side with a hole in it in both versions, but on the 360 version, the hole looks mostly filled with black, and doesn’t show the hole going straight through the ship until you get much closer to it. It’s not like you’re going to see major improvements, as even the PS4 and PS3 versions still look very much like the same game. But you can still tell there is an obvious difference in visual quality. Rinslowe After the patch to 1080p support the PS4 version looked pretty good. And an obvious step up from the other versions. Trumped only by the PC version which I bought first and that is something else with everything maxed out. Wii U version holds up ok. And for what it is, it’s a really decent port. Some choppy framerates in places, but nothing like what they were saying during the DF face-off, imo. Although some on here have personally disagreed with that one in the past. I’m cool with that. I think I know what the game plays like after nearly 80hrs on both versions including online. It was only by luck while I was in Australia in Feb/Mar that I came across a copy on Wii U for 20 odd dollars, so couldn’t refuse the offer… Mostly I think you make a good point on this one. matthew garcia Nintendo hardly advertises its own console how do u expect 3rd parties to do it Daniel Gonzalez Not to mention not enough Wii U owners have purchased third party games. matthew garcia That’s true Rinslowe Riiight. Arthur Jarret Replace ‘Wii U’ with ‘Christ’, ‘Scientology’, ‘Jehova’ or ‘Ganny’ (my cats name) – and you will still seem equally unhinged. By which I mean to say – by way of humor – that there is such a thing as overreacting. abe the thing that annoys me with this is its meant to link the two kenway games together… the games that the Wii U got. Ashley King Yeah, it’s pretty scummy not to at least finish the Kenway story out on Wii U, considering first time Assassin’s Creed players on Wii U know either Haytham and Connor or Edward. abe pretty sure the new guy is the one who kills Edward Kenway but agreed, its not like its going to be alot of work to release this for wii u as apprently its basically a giant AC 4 mod Wilks Edward was killed by hired goons, not a Templar. PS4WiiURocks Well than UBI you won’t mind if i pass on getting any more games from your company..Ubi you are now just as worthless as EA..R.I.P Ubisoft realist a console ridiculous, with a ridiculous price ZeldaFan83 It’s kind of funny…when Ubisoft was the major 3rd party supporter of the Wii U and has always supported Nintendo even when other 3rd parties wouldn’t like EA then everyone is like thanks Ubisoft you’re awesome even though their games were selling really bad. Now they decided to put a hold on Wii U games until the install base grows so their not throwing money down the drain and now you’re all like Ubisoft sucks I hate you. I don’t blame them for suspending Wii U projects from a business perspective. Who wants to spend millions of dollars to make games that aren’t gonna sell and not only are they not gonna make a profit, they won’t even make their money back. That’s just common sense, I wouldn’t spend millions just to make games for Wii U owners like myself just to give gamers something to play at least for those that actually buy their games. In this economy and the way the games industry is going it’s only natural to hold off on making games unless they will actually sell. abe they have ONE game they will release if the install base grows and then they’ll reaccess ZeldaFan83 My understanding was that they had multiple projects in the works but they were put on hold until the install base increases. MichelChartrand While I don’t fault a decision to avoid losing money, I do have an issue with the logic they use to arrive to that conclusion. Mainly, they delay their games until all the hype is gone, they avoid discussing the game in public like it’s some disappointing thing, and spend next to nothing advertising it, let alone even acknowledging its existence, then they complain that the sales just aren’t there. With an install base almost as big as PS4 and Xbox One, there are customers there and money to be made. But instead of touting the Wii U specific capabilities, or sounding remotely excited about their upcoming releases, they barely acknowledge it in order to focus on what they perceive as their main markets. So yes I agree that the decision to avoid Wii U because they’re not making money from it can’t be faulted too much, I think the decisions and business management and marketing they’ve employed to this point is the reason they’ve not made money, or rather, not made as much as they intended. Just once I’d love to see a AAA dev say on camera “I absolutely love what we’ve done with the gamepad. It’s added a whole new level of what’s possible with our game.” rather than “Oh, haha, yeah, we’ve got someone working on that too…hehe, but we don’t know when it’ll be released…” Ducked Couldn’t agree more. D.M.T You’re talking about the hypocritical Nintendo fans. But some Nintendo fans have always thought that Ubisoft sucks dick and I’m one of them. Yeah they supported the Wii U, but their support sucked. Rayman Legends delayed for no reason, ZombiU a rushed low budget game, Splinter Cell released with missing features and both AC games released without DLC. Of course Nintendo fans won’t buy their games because the Wii U version of their games suck. Rinslowe You have some points actually, regarding those games. It didn’t stop me from double dipping on both AC’s and enjoying SC regardless. Zombie U is great, deserves a sequel – but you are right in that it could have been more polished visually. Still love that lighting approach… I think despite there being real tangible costs involved for porting and the fact that reception is less than satisfactory. Ubisoft would still be better off continuing to support Wii U “while” the install base grows. But it does make sense why they choose not to. It also makes sense that current Wii U owners are likely not willing to support Ubisoft a whole lot after either… Wilks You’re part of the problem, as always. Gameonfool Why is D.M.T part of the problem, because he is a Nintendo fan that expects from third party a game that is polished with no features missing at full price. Wilks He’s been part of the problem and every other problem for so long now. If Ubisoft personally drove up to his house and offered him the greatest game ever with all the packs and dlc included, he’d reject simply because he’s part of the problem. Gameonfool Allot of ports have been only half baked though. I got allot of games for wii u 1st and 3rd party but I can see why some get skipped. Maybe some consumers/fans are part of the problem just not accepting stuff I dunno. Mark LaVerne AC3 did have DLC. The DLC for ACIV was quite rubbish. But why on earth would someone miss out on perhaps the best AC game ever (and probably the best pirate game since Sid Meier’s) just because of some missing DLC? I mean, Freedom Cry was pretty great, but the rest was sub-mediocre at best. Thankfully, we got the game. Wich is worth every penny. But you probably missed out, because you’re too obsessed with the dicksucking business. Your loss. Kidicarus1 Thats fine i dont want to play as a templar anyway. That isnt what ac is about if it wss it would be called templars creed, or templars association Merry_Blind Personally I find the prospect of playing as an Assassin turned Templar rather intriguing and refreshing (even though SPOILER Haytham was a templar too, but that doesn’t really count…) gerb1977 Well…..it was fun while it lasted…..I’ll sure I’ll see you around somewhere Ubi. No….I know it isn’t me…..seriously good luck. We will always have Zombi U Will.F. Martinez got all my Assassins Creed on the 360 because the original Wii didn’t have them. But with the WiiU was finally a chance for me to get it on a Nintendo console. but that support has stopped and tho i have an Xboxone and a 360 i don’t plan going purchasing Assassins creed on those console again so i guess i’ll be missing out on Assassins creed this time around and most likely permanently. JoshuaMariguez197 Ubi this shelved title you have exclusively for the Wii U better be some ultimate game in the most literal sense possible. abe its a party game Dáibhí wotshissurname Its likely the Wii U port of Ghost Recon Phntoms. Remember that? They apparently “put it on hold” a short while ago… Sorceror12 Tetris gamingpalooza What the hell… nexxus6 I wonder what magical number the install base needs to reach before Ubi sends more scraps our way? Last time I checked, there are more WiiUs on the market compared to Xbone. What a crazy world we live in. Well, I enjoy all the Ubi games that I got and I hope to see more in the future. Merry_Blind Well it’s not only a matter of the size of the install base, but also of the install base itself. AC4 probably sold A LOT more copies on X1 compared to Wii U, even though the install base for X1 is smaller. matthew garcia Exactly Jonathan Robitaille But the Xbone version is current gen and the Wii U version is a straight up port…sadly Merry_Blind True that. Rinslowe Yet it is true that Nintendo consoles seem to need a lot more units than other platforms in comparison, for the average third party title to sell well enough. It’s a truly odd phenomenon that Nintendo’s first party IP commands the lions share of sales almost every time. Even the really decent ports so far haven’t sold so well, with maybe one or two exceptions. Granted many of those ports were not fresh new titles, but versions of games already on the market for some time. So there is that to consider as well. Missing DLC, features, online and taking performance hits due to poor optimisation doesn’t help the cause a whole lot either, I guess. But yeah. It’s where it is, with no easy fix in sight. Better for Nintendo to up the anti even more on exclusive third party content. And market the crap out of it. So long as they’re good choices. My personal verdict is still out on Devils Third so far, for eg… Murilo Correia Ok.. i bought my wii u with no expectations and because i never had an wii.. bought it intending to buy a PS4/Xone someday.. Then.. i loved the console.. and now i see the 3rd parties leaving it behind.. with no reason.. that makes me want to support Nintendo even more! Iuri Borges I wish many people would give Wii U a try as you did. But don«’t worry pal, Wii U is about to show what it’s made of >:D 3rd Parties will be back sooner or later! D.M.T The only way I can see 3rd parties coming back is if Sony goes bankrupt and Microsoft leaves the video game industry. Gameonfool I think this is more of a time for third parties to put games on the wii u this holiday season. I actually believe the console will sell a few with the games coming out before Christmas. I dunno, they do half assed games when the install base was lower and then don’t bother when it will start growing. iamserious Believe it or not both companies may do just what you said. Christopher McNair Not likely. Sony is seeing nice profit from the PlayStation division. Microsoft’s CEO said Xbox isn’t major part of the company vision or something, but Sony isn’t going to leave the industry anytime soon. Nintendo would be far worst to deal with if they were in as much control of gaming as they were in the NES era. iamserious With big guys like Activision doing so well we may see an entirely new hardware platform in the mix. Lionel Quoc Anh Thai Oh god no. Activision and EA are the two worst (most hated) VG companies out there. They are just a bunch of money sucking heartless jackass. val berger according to your logic, Nintendo should have gone down a couple of times during the past 15 years. Never say a company won’t make it. Everyone goes through tough times one day. iamserious I didn’t really say they (whoever they are) wouldn’t make it. I know most all companies have there ups and downs but with Sega as an example, the possibility that Microsoft and Sony pull out of gaming is just that, possible. Sony not likely but Microsoft, under the new management they have, who knows. Nintendo so far has always stood their ground because they have home console and portables. One might do bad but the other will do well. val berger sure thing, I’m just saying we should be cautious with assumptions 🙂 doesn’t look too shiny for MS indeed, still, let’s see what they are up to. In the end, the xbox is their main connection to a certain entertainment audience, so they might not give it up, even if it creates a huge loss for them. Int’l J Microsoft will leave the gaming industry. This will probably be the last XBox. It doesn’t look good for them when their trailing Nintendo in console sales. Microsoft is notorious for quitting, I’m still mad about them giving up on my beloved Zune! Murilo Correia Let’s hope not.. competition is good for the industry.. and better for us. i wish sega come back on the hardware business (not gonna happen) but ok.. :/ And about 3rd parties.. each console generally requires game developers to learn an entirely new hardware architecture, and how to use the new developer toolkit. They chose the easy way moving to x86 (Historically, console makers have shied away from x86 for a number of reasons: Cost, power consumption, and because consoles aren’t PCs..) Its easier to make games to PS4/Xone.. but games ported to Wii U will not run at the best performance like Mario Kart 8. they need to rework the game.. like Project Cars.. I’m very happy to know that the game was delayed.. cuz they’ll probably work on the optimization. Int’l J I just want Nintendo to be around when the smoke clears. If Microsoft gets out of the biz, I promise you someone else will get in. It’s always been like that. Probably Amazon. I’m not much of a gamer, I just buy every Nintendo out of loyalty, for Zelda titles, and in hopes that they will bless me with a StarFox game. That’s it! iamserious Oh ya my bro still uses his Zune to this day! It seems pretty cool, I like that interface better than Apple’s Ipod. Too bad though. Int’l J It’s the best in my opinion. I use mine as well. Before they went belly of you called them and told them anything like my screen is cracked or the back surface is cracked they would offer the biggest Zune HD for $90. They gave up to soon, so what if they were second! Dark Lord Sauron we dont need EA but ubisoft thats still up in the air especially how many times they delayed the wii u versions of rayman and watch dogs val berger I prefer a delayed game over no game at all though. It made baely any sense with rayman, but in the case of watchdogs, I don’t mind being able to play such a super-mediocre game a few months later. After checking out the PS360 version, I wouldn’t even mind not playing it at all. I just hoped for some Open World-game that I would be able to play on the Gamepad. If not GTAV, then at least WD would be nice, even if it’s that overhyped substandard-bullshit. A few months after it’s release, it’s pricetag would be reduced like always with Ubisoft games so you could buy it without feeling ripped off. Lionel Quoc Anh Thai Do we need 3rd party. I rather have exclusive or 2nd party (like Bay2 or HW). Let be frank, multiplat does not sell on Nintendo platforms become they are getting their ass kick by 1st and 2nd party games. D.M.T You are absolutely right my friend. The Wii U and Nintendo fans get ignored sometimes for no reason whatsoever and yet some ignorant gamers don’t see that. They defend 3rd party publishers anti-Nintendo practices and make up silly excuses for them. Potemkin There are reasons. In Ubisoft’s case, their games simply do not sell on Wii U, except for Rayman Legends. D.M.T And there are reasons why the games do not sell on Wii U. But just like Ubisoft, you choose to ignore those reasons and act like it’s Nintendo fans’ fault. Stop defending 3rd parties. Upon your eyes already. Arthur Jarret It’s Nintendo’s fault for not stepping in and binding third parties by ensuring there is an audience for them on their system – an audience aware of said games’ existance. It’s the publishers fault for not advertising properly – and, even worse – undermining market success by being wishy-washy about the existance of the Wii U version, undermining hype by unneccesary delays and announcing lists of cut features. It’s the customers – and mainly the early adopters fault for not buying the early games which had only minor graphical drawbacks – providing publishers with an immediate view of attachment rate and giving them a good view of how many systems need to be sold to make further investments worthwhile. D.M.T Yes I agree Arthur, everyone is to blame, not just Nintendo. Arthur Jarret True, but Nintendo screwed up in the beg… (looks at angry, cold stare and runs) Rinslowe I kinda agree. But I don’t think early adopters should receive demerits for not buying into ports that were not just a bit behind or on par in visuals to last gen systems, as many of those ports had slight performance issues as well. Missed features as you’ve mentioned and released later than the other platforms – understandable – but at full retail price. Personally if studios really took their port performance stats seriously during that launch period and it looked like many did in fact. Then they were not only setting themselves up for disappointment, but were being rather unrealistic towards how those ports would perform according to the circumstances. MujuraNoKamen Yay someone gets it! 3rd parties are often scumbags but when they do try Nintendo fanboys are still refuse to help the situation. darkcreap I 100% agree with this comment. Nintendo, the publishers and finally the consumers. I always did an effort to buy third party games (especially Ubisoft’s with ZombiU, AC3, AC4 and Rayman). Not to mention a lot of other third parties and indies that I bouhgt. I will buy Child of Light and Watch Dogs in the future. Sadly, Nintendo platforms are in a vicios cycle: consumers only buy Nintendo games, so only Nintendo games appear, making the audiences for those games go to other platforms. I hope collaborations like Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors and Devil’s Third (we need many more like these three) bring exclusives that bring variety and therefore a more varied audience to the WiiU and future Nintendo platforms and make third parties come back. I think that, if that happens, it will take one or two generations to happen. nf_zeta I’m not saying your totally wrong or anything but think about these things along with it: For Nintendo they not only announced all the third party games coming to their system but also marketed the changes/improvements they would have on their systems, also the only way they could ensure there was an audience for those games other than said games being part of the reason for the install base is to have similar games already on the system, however by doing that it most likely means 1st party games which would appeal even more to Nintendo’s fans than said 3rd party games. Now if anything what Nintendo did wrong was to not boost their install base more with their own games and hope that install base also picked up the 3rd party games, as rather than ensuring there is an audience for the 3rd party games they should have focused on having an audience altogether and nothing raises Nintendo console sales like Nintendo games. Now its true that all games were not advertised properly, especially in those cases where the advertising would be counter-productive in cases where the games were gimped, but i highly agree on the wishy-washy statement because a lot of devs were simply saying a Wii U version was not being ruled out or a possibility etc, you can’t build hybe like that. Now for the customers i get where you are coming from here and technically you are correct but this is something gamers have been forced to deal with too much and it just so happens Nintendo fans deal with these things the least as when you have gimped and/or delayed ports of games selling for full price its a good decision personally to simply not buy them or buy them on the other consoles, however it does only seem to send one message to devs and that’s that people aren’t interested in the game at all. PC gamers also suffer from the same things Wii U gamers did but the difference being PC has things like Steam where they can still get reasonable prices for those gimped or delayed ports and therefore its acceptable for gamers to buy those games there. Arthur Jarret A ‘slightly’ expanded view on Nintendo’s and customers actual fault in this.: Nintendo’s fault in this: Nintendo’s announcement of these third party games was only done on E3 and dedicated youtube channels – there was little Wii U marketing in toy stores, television or website banners, and the little there was only showcased first party games (and monster hunter, which did surprisingly well according to capcom back then). Dedicated gamers do follow E3, but were disappointed by a severe wii game drought and it’s general type of available software (too many bad party games – although I disagree with people saying Wii had too much shovelware. Compared to PS2 it easily matches the amount of high quality titles.) – because of this many were sceptical about the Wii U on announcement of unprecedented partnerships and statements on targeting core gamers, which soon became a self-fulfilling prophecy as third parties dropped the system quickly (still, quite unprecedented) and Nintendo was forced to refocus the target audience a bit. What I’m saying is: only providing a spotlight for third party developers on a press event is not my idea of advertising, nor does it bind third parties to your company. Basically, Nintendo games only sell on nintendo system because Nintendo only marketed their system to people who only play Nintendo games. A bad marketing campaign actually hurt the Wii U and damaged the way it is seen in the market by the core gamer they intended the device for. Customers fault: For third party games – I was specifically mentioning the early adopters. Games like Batman: Arkham City, Assassins creed 3, Tekken tag tournament 2 and Ninja gaiden 3 were not gimped ports on the Wii U. AC3 launched very shortly after the other versions, Arkham city had to wait until the console launch but did launch at the same default price as the PS3/Xbox360 version. Over here, retailers were already selling PS3/X360 Batman AC at a loss. They added useful touchpad functionality – but for AC3 (for instance), Digital Foundry noted that some slight smoke effects in the background of a game was missing and Wii U was automatically stamped with a ‘worst version’ mark by the media. For some reason, online media all copy each other to ensure a regular stream of articles – of course this had an effect on would-be adopters looking to the new device to play the best version of a game. Outside of this media, neither ubisoft or Nintendo marketed the game on the Wii U, only on the last gen HD-twins So – it is actually the journalists fault as well. I personally blame John Kinsley 😛 Petri Most of the games released at launch, were ports of games that an early adopter most probably played long time ago. “Mass Effect 3 did not sell? That must mean none of the games will ever sell.” I mean, I bought the game, when it was on the bargain bin. I had already played it through and through way back as new on my PC. And Now I haven’t really even started the game on Wii U, it just sits there completing my collection. Big third party publishers like Ubisoft and EA did their darnedest to make sure that gamer would not buy the game on Wii U (maybe not on purpose), since the future support was looking very grim after 2 months of the console launch. Consumer trust with third parties withered. CydeFxt do you mean open your eyes? Arthur Jarret No, it’s upon your eyes… like smack, right in the kisser. If only you’ve kept your eyes open, you would’ve seen it coming. Now, you did not see until it was upon your eyes already. Look, don’t feel bad – ok? I’m sure your eyes will heal and I’ll go call an ambulance for you now. By the way, what’s Silver & Blue and kills you when it hits you in the eye? A: A highspeed train CydeFxt LoL i don’t even know what to say to this……maybe….thank you? D.M.T Lol yes that’s what i mean Potemkin I do not defend all of them, but I see where their reasoning is coming from. You can blame other third party developers for slacking off or even launching a port months after the release on other consoles and expect them to have spectacular sales. In my case, I have a PS3 and Wii U and most of the 3rd party games I buy them on PS3 because of the reason stated above. But there are cases in which a third party gives attention to Nintendo just like they do to others, but it simply doesn’t pay off. The way I see it, Nintendo home consoles are “cursed” to not have third party support and sadly Nintendo itself doesn’t know how to get other developers to get their software on Wii U… nf_zeta the thing is where are the examples of such cases where third party tries with Nintendo and doesn’t reap benefits. with Rayman Legends it sold better than a good few 3rd party games and that was when the install base was really small and this is even after all the delays and changes from exclusive to timed to global release which are all blows to the consumers from the Wii U install base. Potemkin Need for speed Most Wanted. Best of em all, yet it didn’t sell. Petri Just forgot to mention its a port of a port of port of a game released back in 2005, delayed way beyond the other releases. And that coming after EA announces that there is no new games coming for Wii U from them including the next NFS (did that game sunk the developer btw?). I wonder why that did not incite the people to buy the game, which had no marketing at all, many retailers did not even know to stock the game. Have any other examples? I just can’t think of any game that did not get shafted one way or another. Just basing by quality, NFS MW, Deus Ex HR and Rayman Legends are the best third party games on Wii U. But all of them spat on a face of a Wii U owner in one way or another. Potemkin It also happened with Team Ninja’s Ninja Gaiden game, where the Wii U version was the best of them all and it didn’t sell (roughly 60k) when the same port to PS3 & X360 sold a lot better (380k and 220k respectively). Also, Deus EX sold way less than the other versions and it had additional contents and enhancements and even ports that were launched with their other counterparts sold nothing (like Splinter Cell: Black List) There are other examples of good ports and games by third party developers, but they do not sell well on Wii U. Are Nintendo fans trying to get revenge for games delayed on Wii U? Whatever the reason is, it is and it will still affect how other developers see a Nintendo platform. You cannot ask for games and then, after it has been ported over, you decide not to buy it and expect other developers to risk time, money and effort on a gamble, because at the moment, that’s what the Nintendo Wii U must look like in front of thirds. Petri Let’s start by dissecting the examples you presented. All of those games I have bought at or almost at their respective launch times, only 2 of, which I would whole heartedly recommend. Ninja Gaiden 3: This one was a port from a 2012 game, a launch title, that most of the early adopters, that even were interested about the game, already had played. As for the sales numbers you dug from vgchartz, PS360 versions are sales of 2 version of the game summed together, 2012 and 2013 version, on a +80 million user bases. Wii U sold at the launch period of 3 months roughly 1.5-2 million?. If we presume that those game sale numbers are roughly from launch adopters, the game sold 10 times per console more on the Wii U, than on ps360 (individually). If we’re generous, and assume that game miraculously started selling just recently, it has still sold twice as many per console on Wii U on its current install base. 380k and 220k are scraps on those install bases. Why didn’t PS360 gamers support the game? Still, 60k is really sad number. This game I would recommend to anyone who enjoys challenge and good action. Deus Ex HR DC: Here’s another game, that most of us probably has already played. I only bought it again, because I never finished the original. Being an port of an old game was not its only sin. This game also did Rayman’s on us, though I doubt it was not on the eleventh hour, like with Rayman. But if those were not enough, the game released on every system at the same time, with Wii U version being 3 times as expensive. Now if you claim that GamePad features were worth the extra 40, I will slap you, features that I believe they made possible on Vita/smartglass (this I could be wrong with). Sure they revamped the game here and there, but Wii U was the only version that payed the price for that. I would not have been as pissed about this, if they released Wii U version first with this pricing, and then later on released cheaper versions for other consoles. All and all, I would still recommend the game for any gamer. Splinter Cell: This game I could not recommend. This is a game that was crap on all system, and sold as such. Besides of the missing feature, which I was really disappointed of, the online counterpart of the feature in question did not even work properly. Loading times were horrendous, which made me put the game on the bottom of the backlog. Sure if I played the game on Easy, I would have been done with it already. But I need challenge, I need trial and error. But the game with 5 minutes of gameplay and 10 minutes of loading just wont do. The exclusive quirky GamePad features seemed neat at first, but so far has felt lackluster and (can’t believe I’m saying this) gimmicky in its worse meaning. Those are my takes on the games you listed, I cannot think any of the other examples that you mentioned. I did not use the games per console example with all of them, since the result of it was pretty much the same, it is just to say, that I would not blame user base so quickly. And I’m willing to bet, that you can count the gamers that only had Wii last generation, with your ten fingers. I do not remember any game, that Wii U community specifically asked for, and then did not buy it. Indies maybe? Don’t think there has been such game in the begin with. Best selling third party games were Lego City Undercover, and Zombi U, both games I would recommend, and in my opinion sold pretty well all things considered. Support is a two way street. You have to show support to get support, and frankly, the consumer is not the one who should do initiative. I have mixed feelings of supporting the third party on the console. I have bought the most of the games released, though I have left the worst offenders for bargain bin. But I do not expect a Wii U owner to take the second class gamer treatment that most of the 3rd party has been offering. 3rd parties decided the level of their support, on these launch titles. Sure, some of them were once great games, but most of them an early adopter like myself, had already played. Consumer trust on third parties was lost, and 3rd parties lost their trust on the console, in my opinion, for pretty petty reason. Third parties also made it quickly clear, that they will not bring their biggest games for the console. And I do not call rehashed yearly releases a big game, which even those they ended gimping one way or another. Sure Nintendo is not all innocent here either, Nintendo does not trust their user base either, if they did, they would be more aggressive with third party, and publish the 3rd party games on their console (paying for publishing/development of their version, receiving larger a share of the profits of Wii U version, if any), until the publishers felt comfortable to do it themselves. I cant think of a major third party IP that is coming, so I will leave it at this. If Bayonetta 2, even though published by Nintendo, not being an Nintendo IP, does not sell anywhere near the level of what original sold (single platform, not combined of two), then I will not defend the Wii U user base anymore. From W101 I can kinda see why it did not do as well as it should have. And from Devils Third, I am not expecting much. Sorry if some parts of the text is hard to decipher, wrote this on and off adding things afterwards. But I think the major points should be pretty clear. Wilks So if people don’t want to buy a product, it’s not the consumers faults there’s a lack of titles? Silly dmt. What possible reasons can a game not sell well when it’s down to the consumer to buy it? bistricky Just noticed your change to your avatar ….. Christian to Sting ,,, nice! 😀 D.M.T I want Sting in a WWE ring already!!! 😀 abe They don’t sell people created this “if its not a perfect port don’t buy” idea in hopes it would force publishers to release better games but they only saw low sales so we get nothing nothing Int’l J Amen brother redmeansgo82 There is a reason, though. The reason is because companies aren’t making any money on third party Wii U games. Murilo Correia Yep.. so doesn’t worth the rework to port the game to the wii u redmeansgo82 Which is a bummer because I quite liked most of the third party offerings the first year or two on Wii U. Call of Duty in particular was much more enjoyable without having to deal with all the annoying Xbox players. val berger no reason? they don’t sell shit. enough reason, living in a capitalist world. It’s sad, of course, but damn. speaking of no reason makes me think you’ve slept the past 1,5 years. Murilo Correia Do not get me wrong .. as our friend redmeansgo82 said .. I know 3rd parties do not sell well on the Wii U .. BUT … I believe this was mainly because the Wii U itself was not selling well .. after E3… and MK8 sales increased and that could change.. by example .. I have no other home console.. probably this generation I’ll go .. PC + Wii U .. so i want the 3rd parties support.. but i still got my pc anyway val berger yes and no. Nntendo consoles have always been consoles, most people mainly buy for playing Nintendo games. The best third party game is just a Sidekick on a Nintendo platform compared to a Smash Bros, Mario Kart or Zelda game. Sure, the more consoles Nintendo sells, the higher the chance, a common Nintendo user might pick up something like a Assasin’s Creed game. But that’s it, it just raises the chance and we are talking real $ here, and especially games like AC whose only purpose is to milk cash out of their fanbase of course only gets developed for platforms where you would find that audience. On a PS3 or XBox360, this game might be handled as something like a must have. or at least Black flag might have been. On a WiiU it’s hardly more than a Nice-to-have. Plus Nintendo’s whole architecture-thing isn’t the easiest to develop for, so companies are just losing money, developing stuff like that. I wouldn’t say there can’t be any third party games on WiiU, but not the dark, bloody, pseudo-mature ones. Leo One does not simply buy a wiiu to play assasins creed dude. For that get a pc. Veemon just wait they’re gonnaa be feeling sorry laaaater Ace J idk why most of you are surprised by this news. A lot of 3rd party developers are either staying away from the wii u or dropping support for it all together. I can’t believe that I believed nintendo when they said that they will have better 3rd party support with the wii u. it honestly feels like the wii all over again and it’s frustrating. i’m glad i got a ps4 and a 3DS to balance things out. wober2 This is annoying and ubisoft has shot their own selves in the foot how they handled wiiu releases and language about the wiiu from their company. EA as well, you cannot bash a console and a game and expect consumers not see the lack of attention or care. I really hope this prompts nintendo to open up communication with western developers. Loosing Dan Adelman was a major blow IMO and points out how closed off Iwata is in his ivory tower. Sometimes i feel Nintendo would rather just sell to japan exclusively. They seemingly give NoA and NoE any power to court devs. 00EpicGamer00 When did Ubisoft EVER “bash” the Wii U? I don’t recall them ever doing something like that. EA? Yeah, I remember. But Ubisoft? I think you might be getting your companies mixed up. greengecko007 Ubisoft bashed Nintendo and the Wii U when they announced that The Last of Us remastered would be a PS4 exclusive, and that the Frostbite 3 engine didn’t work on the Wii U, and when they tried to take over Nintendo Network with Origin, and… oh wait… Ubisoft… Well, they made ZombiU a Wii U exclusive, Rayman Legends was built specifically for the Wii U and is the definitive version, AC3 and 4 are better than their last generation counterparts… Sounds like a bad company right? Nothing5555 Umm you got your companies mixed up, that was EA with origin/Frostbite. Not sure about the last of us though, is it a Ubisoft game? greengecko007 The Last of Us is developed by Naughty Dog, a Sony studio. Nothing5555 Then how did Ubisoft bash Nintendo when the Last of US remastered was going to PS4 exclusive when it was developed by Sony? Ace J why would ubisoft announce ANYTHING about TLOU? they didn’t make that game, naughty dog did. Ace J oohhhhhhh i see you were joking lol my bad. greengecko007 Ha, it’s all good. Not your fault that I’m not funny. 00EpicGamer00 I see what you did there. 😉 I don’t understand all the hate for Ubisoft. They were (literally) the biggest supporter of the Wii U. They didn’t “jump ship” at the first sign of trouble. They stayed aboard and tried their best to get the Wii U fan base to buy their games….but nothing worked. They even made an exclusive game for the Wii U. And some games were built specifically for the Wii U. Even if it turned out to be multiplatform. If anything, this decision is a good one. Maybe not for “us” specifically. But as a business perspective, it is definitely a good choice. And I understand and respect their decision. wober2 I really think they were really put off by crappy zombiu and asscreed 3 sales and planned all the other games accordingly. After launch it was delays and gimped versions… 00EpicGamer00 Yeah, I think that’s what happened too. But I think the whole “sales factor” can be blamed on not just Ubisoft, but Nintendo too. I’m not exactly sure on how advertising works, but I think the console a game is getting released on, it’s that company’s responsibility to advertise it. For example, let’s use Zombie U. Ubisoft made the advertisement for it, but I think it’s Nintendo’s responsibility to actually advertise it. So, maybe this whole situation is Nintendo’s fault? wober2 I think it is still Nintendo’s fault absolutely! I just dont think ubisoft is out of the blame completely… still better then any other 3rd party company on the wiiu. Nothing5555 Ubisoft has been pretty supportive of the WiiU. It really puts the company in a bind when choosing to release AAA titles for select systems especially the Wii U since it architecture is vastly different from the Xbone and PS4. They spend tens or even hundreds of millions to develop a game. It would be foolish to keep releasing games of this type on the Wii U if they are unable to recover the cost of making a game for it. 00EpicGamer00 Indeed. I agree with your mentality. wober2 Ubisoft was always cautiously optimistic sounding but except for launch with zombiu, they made the wiiu always seem like an after thought. Given it was way better then any other 3rd party dev… EA was butt hurt with the origin thing i guess. I wonder if the same thing is happening with EA access and Sony, right now. They probably cannot ignore 9million units sold, though. Petri I liked Zombi U, but it felt like it was made by the basement dwelling QA team in Ubisoft HQ, and actual QA was done by nearby kindergarten. wober2 I’m sorry “bash” is probably not the right word, showing a lack of interest/care with delaying releases (rayman or watch dogs). Giving the wiiu not full experiences like splinter cell. Then the advertising just grouped the wiiu version with all the rest just the wiiu version might be missing something. It is maybe more of a sentiment then a actually verbally bashing. The truth is I dont really blame them though. I just cant image they would expect the wiiu versions to sell as well, but I think nintendo could of been in contact more. Nintendo has this weird “build it and they will come” mentality and the 2nd party titles releasing are usually not western devs… JB “As a consolation prize, Rayman is featuring in Super Smash Bros. this year as a trophy.” Though they told Sakurai that they were holding out on the trophy until the install base grows… Daniel Gonzalez Or maybe hold out Smash until the install base grows. Zorpix did they seriously? Daniel Gonzalez He was joking. Zorpix never can be sure with third parties JB Yeah, man where have you been? It’s going to be special DLC if the Wii U hits their super secret install base number. 😉 Zorpix I better go buy more Wii Us! greengecko007 Well that sucks, but let’s be honest, this isn’t a surprise. It’s also not like Assassin’s Creed 4 ended on some major cliffhanger that requires you to play this game to get the full story. There’s the overarching plot of the series though with what’s going on in Abstergo, but that’s been a jumbled mess that few people care about for years… nonbeliever323 And thats why Rayman shouldnt be in Smash Bros. Kuhang Menyangbo Hmmm…makes me wana cancel my Watch Dogs Wii U Pre-Ordet…will see what happens PS4WiiURocks Already did that today JB You’d probably get a refund on your preorder anyways when they don’t release it… matthew garcia That’s cold blooded JB I’m just trying to brace myself for the inevitable. Lol. I’ll be surprised if they don’t scrap it at this point… matthew garcia I didn’t think that at first but scrapping the game completely wouldn’t suprise me now JB Of course my other line of thinking is that Wii U owners *could* get Watch Dogs when everyone else gets Assassin’s Creed, as to not leave Nintendo owners left out… but that would pretty much feel like scraps at that point. Daniel Gonzalez I think it is. It’s better off I think. It won’t sell much at this point as most probably already bought it for other platforms. JB I know I bought it for the PS4. I still plan to get it for Wii U if it releases, if there’s a unique use for the Gamepad. My other theory that I shared in a couple other replies is that if it gets released, they’ll more than likely release it in close proximity to the other AC games, as not to leave Wii U without something… Kuhang Menyangbo Are you a Ubisoft’s representative? If not, mind if I told u to Please…Shut up? (Well I couldn’t get any polite than that haha). Probably? I’m definitely getting my money back if not released. JB Woah, woah chill out.. LOL I’m just being a smartass. If you know my post history, then sometimes I can get that way. It’s purely for comic relief. For what it’s worth, I pre-ordered Watch Dogs on the Wii U as well, so I totally know where you’re coming from. So while I’m being a smartass, what I was saying was also speculative which is where the poorly placed ‘probably’ came from in my sentence. Though honestly, I’ll be surprised if they release it at this point, but at the same time, just to look at the other side of the coin, we might get Watch_Dogs in November when everyone else gets their AC games* (*The views expressed in this post and subsequent posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of, and should not be attributed to Ubisoft, Nintendo or WiiUDaily) Kuhang Menyangbo Haha My bad :p yeah you are right at this point Assassin’sCreed has low to no chances to be released on Wii U my bad I thought you were talking about watch dogs when you said it was not going to release, Watch Dogs most probably will get released.A this point too late to get cancelled. oontz oh snap bistricky Another sad day in Wii U – Land 🙁 Ducked Not really sad, they’re killing the AC series by releasing a game every year. Save your wallet for 2015, it’s going to a packed year for all three consoles. bistricky To each their own …. for me, every game that skips the Wii U is another knock against it. I would have bought ‘Rogue’ because I enjoyed 3 & 4. It is sad to see so many 3rd party games skip the Wii U …. it is becoming the norm, rather then the exception. Ducked It is sad, but I expected it after E3 2013. It’s really hard to own one console in the 8th gen. I’ve sort of been a PlayStation guy since the PS1, but the Wii U really impressed me. I’ll have to buy a PS4 just to play third party games. Hopefully once the install base for Wii U grows, they’ll win back some of the third parties that they lost. D.M.T It’s already the norm since the GameCube days. Don’t worry, one day they’ll pay for what their doing to us Nintendo fans. Mark LaVerne Well, no. They probably won’t. But hey, at least we get some great 1st and 2nd party games. Wii U + PS4 is the best combination this gen. Merry_Blind There will be 3 AC games released in 2014 by the end of the year. Freaking 3. It’s fucking ridiculous. bistricky Interesting … what is the 3 AC games …. I only knew of 2 for 2014? Merry_Blind And AC Liberation HD released in January. bistricky Yup … it appears many forgot about that 3rd one …. cheers 😀 Merry_Blind Yeah loll everybody was like “no there’s only 2”! Ducked Three? Merry_Blind AC Liberation HD. Ducked Wow that’s ridiculous Arthur Jarret Not much more ridiculous than a talking duck performing magic spells while his nephews sell him overpriced wobbly bits and his own previously-owned magic staff. Oh god, I can’t wait for Kingdom hearts 3 Ducked I’m with you on that. It’s been eight years now since Kingdom Hearts 2. I’m hoping the game will be available next year. Arthur Jarret But that’s because 3… is the magic number. Yes it is… it’s the magic number. Daniel Gonzalez I only recall two. Merry_Blind AC Liberation HD D.M.T AC Unity and AC Rogue. That’s 2 not 3 Merry_Blind And AC Liberation HD. That’s 3 not 2. D.M.T Liberation HD was released last year i believe. Merry_Blind No, it was released in January. Arthur Jarret Yup, it was… although TECHNICALLY that means there have been FOUR assassins creed titles as Freedom cry was released as a stand-alone title. Merry_Blind lol was it? Didn’t know that. Still, Freedom Cry is an expansion, so it’s o.k. Arthur Jarret Yup, just keep to three, it’s the magic number (yes it is) Merry_Blind haha I like the way you think! D.M.T Talk about milking an average at best franchise. Ubisoft makes me sick Merry_Blind It’s a great franchise. I love Assassin’s Creed. Problem is, if Ubisoft had made fewer, but better quality games, the series would have been astonishing. As it stands, it’s just ‘great’. Such a shame really… ever since the 1st game, I’ve loved the franchise, but with every single game, I always feel as though it could have been so much better. I still play the 1st one here and there because of how amazing the atmosphere is. bistricky Although to me it is equally f’en ridiculous that all 3 AC games skipped Wii U. Merry_Blind Indeed. HD and Rogue definitely should have been released on Wii U. Shaise That says Wiin. Coffee I am not surprised but I am worried I’ll never get to play this. I hope it comes to PlayStation now Ducked There’s really no games in development by Ubisoft that I actually care about . darkvam The only game I would buy from Ubisoft is zombiU 2. But that’s not happening either. Alessandro Previti Yeah… it was a good game. I don’t know why but reviews online bashed it all the time when it was released. RyuNoHadouken I loved ZombiU! Yen Maybe if they release an HD remaster of Assassins Creed 1 and 2 on Wii U, Nintendo fans will actually have a chance to try the first games, and get into the series. Instead of being shown 3 and 4 and not really having interest because they’ve never played the first games. Fiercedeitymelkor There are plenty of ways for “nintendo fans” to play the first 2. Yen Yes, it’s true. So think about it, any Nintendo fan that wanted to play the first games probably bought a PS3 or Xbox360 to play it on. Now, Assassin’s Creed 3 comes out a few weeks earlier on those consoles, a high percentage of them would probably just stay with those systems instead of buying a Wii U to play 3 on it. With 4, it’s also released on PS3 and Xbox360, it doesn’t give an incentive to get it on the Wii U at all. SaiyanJedi_Trunks It’s a shame for Wii U owners. I know that people always proclaim that you never buy a Nintendo system for it’s 3rd party offerings, but based on the presentations leading to launch, this was supposed to be different since Wii U was catering to both the “casual” and “hardcore” gamer on it’s new HD console. – to this day I still love how Black Ops 2 and Tekken Tag ran on it at launch. I only wonder would could have been because the majority of games I want this year are Nintendo console based – Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Captain Toad and Smash Brothers. If some strong 3rd party support was coupled in…Wii U could certainly be the system to own. wober2 Maybe nintendo has social anxiety O.O Kay Wrobel I think the problem is really all about the timing. At this point in the Wii U’s life cycle, I can imagine many Wii U owner’s having an alternate console or PC for all those titles that are not heading to Wii U. The other issue I see is that many devs are probably switching architectures since Xbone and PS4 use the same underpinnings as a PC. So they probably don’t want to spend development resources in porting their code to older systems. That said, Ubisoft releasing this game for even older hardware only (360+PS3) but skipping the Wii U which is similar in architecture just doesn’t seem to be fair. One more though I’d like to share is this (and I’m not a game developer, so don’t know what’s really involved in this): If they have a finished game for the other platforms, most of the game’s assets like textures, meshes, levels, AI, all that is probably black-boxed. So it really comes down to the engine itself needing a port to the console and spend some time on tweaking it. It’s not like they would have to spend the same amount of money or more to get the game ported properly to make it run on Wii U. If they wanted to just port it, they could skip the gamepad specifics and just release the game as is. I don’t believe they would have to spend millions on the Wii U version. It just seems not the right argument to me. What is more likely is that the system gets shunned because of politics. Anyway, just my own thoughts I have. Jonathan Robitaille Something we aren’t aware of must have happened to piss Ubisoft off. I have a theory that when the Wii U launched Ubisoft wanted to have a ZombiU bundle (if people recall…AC3 had their own PS360 bundles) but at the same price. Instead of that…for whatever reason…maybe Nintendo didn’t want to give financial considerations to them….Nintendo raised the price and included a pro controller in the bundle…and they did this months after the launch. I purchased this bundle…but I am sure that in Ubisoft’s mind they were pissed because they thought if a 32GB bundle with ZombIU was dropped at the same price as the regular NintendoLand bundle..that they would have sold twice as many games. I have no proof and I haven’t heard anyone say anything similar but I can’t think of anything else. If you remember, ZombiU was supposed to be this great example of Nintendo entering the hardcore market. It sold decent but not great and the bundle didn’t come out till Feb (unlike launch like I believe Ubi wanted) and they were probably already pissed so they took away Rayman Legends exclusivity. The Wii U actually had a pretty decent launch through the Holiday. It was the software drought and negative press they received until they started getting 1st party games that did them in as they were unable to sustain sales. Ubisoft delaying RL played a huge roll in that. Then after even the ZombiU bundle failed to do that well (it was more expensive and most people opted for cheaper versions) Ubisoft started bad mouthing Wii U sales figures and they obviously didn’t try with their future ports. That leads us to now where they delayed Watchdogs, didn’t even bring Valiant Hearts and gimped versions of everything else. Something had to have happened we don’t know about. It can’t be install base because Wii U has more than Xbone. It can’t be sales because RL and ZombiU sold decent all things considered. Kay Wrobel Everything is possible. Who knows. Maybe Yves Guillemot lost in a Golf match with Satoru Iawata and decided to stick it to Nintendo. Maybe this is his way of “motivating” Nintendo to sell more units. I don’t know. All I know is that Nintendo is really driving its own success right now, without the third parties. It’s sad for those who made the Wii U their only console because there are so many awesome third-party games. There are also many forgettable third-party games. But there are just some really outstanding ones as well. And I think that the Wii U is up to the task,with proper optimization. I just look at what the inhouse studios can produce with this console and think: “man, if only some of the big third parties could optimize their games for the Wii U…” And the gamepad, to me is such an amazing device. But reality is just a tad different, now, isn’t it? wober2 btw that was a really dumb trailer… Jonathan Robitaille it certainly will not looks nearly as good as that as that was obviously PC cl0s “Consolation prize” LOL Merry_Blind Wait wut? No PC release? What the actual fuck? Ducked Unity is coming to PC, don’t know why people would prefer Rogue over Unity. Merry_Blind Well they’re both different games… And who knows, for all we know, Rogue could very well turn out to be the better game of the two. Rinslowe Personally I would just prefer both on PC I think. Regardless. FutureFox Sounds like a price drop purchase to me. ( I have a PS3). greengecko007 I don’t imagine you’ll have to wait long on that either. A couple months after release you’ll find it at half price, and after the inevitable next Assassin’s Creed game gets announced probably 9 months from now, you’ll be able to get it for around $10. J_Joestar Really, i rarely get a lot of these yearly games new anymore simply because the prices drop so quickly. Brandon Black friday Petri Meh. Rinslowe Well. It’s not really a surprise. But still. A real pity for Wii U only owners. Looks like yet another interesting setting. And I haven’t been able to say no AC so far. Even though it has been losing some of it’s sheen in places, imo. Sailing was a welcome and fresh mechanic though… WT Herrod Jr. I guess I’ll take my Mayflash Pro controller adapter, my Wii U Pro Controller and pick it up next year on sale on Steam rather than this fall for full price on Wii U. I’ve also picked up all the AC games on the Wii U but after Freedom Cry skipped Wii U I kinda figured this would happen. Potemkin Shouldn’t surprise anyone… miltownrob that’s bullshit. Korv13 Korv13 confirmed to be skipping Assassin’s Creed Rogue. This franchise could have been so great if they had taken more time to release better games. Also, the fact that this franchise is ALWAYS present in the media is contributing strongly to a franchise fatigue. Ubisoft is releasing way too much Assassin’s Creed! What a waste of potential! CydeFxt I mean i doubt anyone had any expectations of another Ubisoft game coming to Wii U…..except of course for Watchdogs. Which I haven’t heard anything about since the last time. That game is gonna sell like shit too at this rate. I honestly almost forgot about that one. uPadWatcher UbiSELLOUT! DragonSilths Ubifail, continuing down the path of irrelevancy. Joecoo1 I saw this coming even though I didn’t wanted to. But I thought that with the WII U sales increasing near to PS4 it can get third party attention. But Ubisoft games are not selling on the console, so I can see why they didn’t bring it to Wii U. Why are Nintendo fans so kiddy! Shootdatrupee!… The gap between WiiU and PS4 sales is widening? oontz “I thought that with the WII U sales increasing near to PS4” Since the wiiu released a year earlier than the ps4, the gap is growing not closing. Kwondhe Awww, we will miss one of the three or four Assasin’s Creed that Ubisoft releases per year :'( We’ll have to make do with Hyrule Warriors or Bayonetta, but the solely idea of missing one game of an overexploited franchise just brings me to tears ¡-¡ ben Asscreed is a fucking boring game. Wilks Someone is salty. ben I heard from a developer the reason big 3rd parties wont support wii u is Nintendo wont let them ship their half finished games. Nintendo do not want them to have day one patches. 5ogb patch day one on The Last of US. Think about it. It is bs… games are not complete and Nintendo wont stand for it. But you can blame Nintendo for putting their foots down and not allowing this terrible behavour. Jessey tlou didn’t have a 50gb patch ben Sorry, 50gb install. Which is still BS> Fiercedeitymelkor Why is 50 GB install BS? oontz “5ogb patch day one on The Last of US” What are you talking about? jimbobbys I’m really hoping Nintendo releases a system like on the 3ds, where you collect coins to play on wee side games, locking coins maybe by completing tasks instead of walking like the 3ds. Maybe collect some by playing people online, or picture tiles that way. Epicstuf Once again, Ubi is pulling dick moves. Shane Michaels Do we really need em? I mean, Watch Dogs, this is what we were shown: http://i.minus.com/ibhbqB822WeJVU.gif This is what everyone but Nintendo fans got: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/ungppieu3zull5dpgv9s.gif Petri Watch dogs was sad excuse of next gen hype… I might not get the game, unless they lower the price, or greatly improve it for Wii U. But lets not kid ourselves, Wii U version has been delayed indefinitely in favor of devs concentrating on DLC for the other systems. james WatchDogs is great, lots of fun. Commander Jim Watch Dogs was great. Damn, how much more entitled can gamers get! Its at the point where any game that gets less than 10/10 across the board is treated as some kind of failure. Petri Try to stay in your pants. I did not claim it to be failure, just that it did not live up to its hype, I didn’t even call it a bad game, I’ll wait for those opinions when I actually play the game. I based that onion to the information available on the internet. It sadly was a success, showing what they can get away with. They deliberately nerfed the PC version of the game, most probably that PS4/xbone versions would not look so bad next to it. Sure, it might be “great”, to the same degree that any other game can be. I really hope GamePad can do at least something for this game, but that is a day dream. Even if the game ever gets released on the platform, it will have no improvement what so ever, to justify the delay. Do you seriously claim this game is what next gen is about? Sure I know this was cross gen multiplat, but it was advertised to be more than it actually was. Sorry if your opinion is not the rule of this world. darkcreap I don’t blame them. I have bought both AC games and some other Ubisoft games as well as many other downloadable indie titles. The problem is that WiiU owners rarely buy third party. I see the number of ratings in the eShop, which gives you a hint of how many people buy games and it is clear that only Nintendo games are massively bought, which is sad, really sad. I wanted WiiU to be my console of choice and to have, if not all, a good selection of the big third party titles. starwars360 Don’t care. Nintendo will be fine and I look forward many upcoming Wii U exclusive titles!!! Ben English Well this is just dumb. “Let’s support the Wii U out of the gate when it’s doing really horrible and now that it’s starting to turn around, stop entirely!” steveb944 This was expected. Ubi can’t keep throwing money at a system where the users don’t buy third party. Boo hoo we got bad ports, delayed releases, etc etc. (As soon as Nintendo delayed a first party game, the delay excuse is null and void.) I’m a single system owner, when a game releases I look at reviews for the game on the system that I OWN, I don’t mess around comparing the competition which I don’t own. This holds true on a game or story that I want to play through. The only game I avoid like the plague is Call of Duty and more recently Batman. You can’t make empty promises of future DLC and not deliver. At least with other games you knew what you were getting into (no extras) before purchase. It’s not going to change anytime soon because unfortunately my fellow Wii U owners don’t look past the big N software and that hinders the 3rd party. / rant. Kay Wrobel Come on, don’t put the blame on users. Ok? I think plenty of Wii U owners would like to buy third party games. I know, I have plenty of non-Nintendo games. I just wish there were more. steveb944 And I agree with you. But you and I aren’t the issue, it’s all the others that only buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games, that’s the issue. I still proudly own more third party games than Nintendo games in my lame attempt to support them. Heck I even have my Watch Dogs preorder still going, that’s how naive I am. But no matter how much I try to show the developers that we want their support, there are 10 others bashing and neglecting their software. Ubi is the one developer that most supported us, but the customer didn’t give the same return on investment. Jonathan Robitaille nobody should be giving Nintendo a pass for delays. In fact, I and many others have been very vocal about how stupid it was to delay Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and Smash Brothers so not exactly sure where you are coming from there. So happy for your spending habits. Others like to get at least a well done game that is the equivalent to the ones on other consoles. Pretty much most consumers do the same. You compare, you shop, and you decide on the best value. So I imagine you are in the minority. It really is a weak argument to blame Wii U owners for not buying games they don’t want. I really don’t think many of these games appeal to Wii U owners and if a game does..and they know the version is better on PS360, PC, PS4 or Xbone…they have the right to get it on those platforms instead. You are suggesting we should buy games we don’t like? You are suggesting we are at fault for demanding Nintendo quality and polish when we are..after all…huge Nintendo fans used to such things? I don’t get it steveb944 There are quite a few that still make the point of game delays when Nintendo most recently adopted the same trend. Tbh I believe I got a great value from Ubi and all its titles that I purchased. And for the most part I can say the same for all my third party purchases. We don’t get DLC? No biggie as that’s a bad system in itself when you want to charge the user extra before they even have the game in hand. You want a Nintendo type game not coming from Nintendo directly? Ok let’s go along with that… W101. Very much a great game, Nintendo like, BUT sold horribly. What else do Wii U owners want? Int’l J Just give me a Zelda game and then work on a remake of Majora’s Mask and the money I spent is worth it. Oh yeah and A Starfox game! soy monster hunter fans bought wii u just for MH3U bayonetta fans (well they mostly claimed) would buy wii u just for bayonetta 1 & 2 zelda fans obviously have bought the wind waker bundle and will buy hyrule & new zelda most of mario fans are zelda fans anyway, i don’t need to talk about them… real fans rarely bother where their favorite games are released. they’ll buy the console anyway. george yay we have rayman as a trophy, at least we have something Daniel Well you can’t blame them for not supporting the Wii U with previous titles. Obviously Nintendo’s fan base didn’t purchase enough of their games for them to put out a 3rd AC game. Decker Shado Then they should have bothered to release the DLC on the Wii U versions the same as the others, and not give the message that if we actually wanted the full game we had to get it on a different system. Daniel Actually Rayman had more content than the other versions and still did not reach expectations. ZombieU was a launch exclusive and sold poorly. SplinterCell had gamepad functionality added, didn’t have screen tearing, played at a better resolution and only missed out on co-op. Black Flag was an exact replica of the other systems with gamepad functionality. Still sold poorly. I’m actually impressed it took Ubisoft this many failures to stop supporting the console. Decker Shado Rayman not reaching expectations was not the fault of the Nintendo gamers, who bought enough of it that the Wii U version remains the 2nd highest version sold. Zombi U sold over half a million, and was obviously a low budget game. I don’t know what Ubi was expecting it to sell, but I do know that when they say they lost money on it, either they’re lying or are terrible at budgeting games. Splinter cell – missing co-op, yes, missing a major feature, just like I said. Black Flag was released late (slightly) on Wii U, as a launch title (very small install base, should not expect many sales) I’m still waiting for this support Ubisoft supposedly was giving the Wii U. After they’ve done all they have, I’ve boycotted them across the board, so the news about no new Assassin’s Creed games coming doesn’t bother me on a personal level… but I’ll be damned if I’m going to put up with people blaming me over Ubi treating Nintendo gamers like fucking idiots with disposable income and an inability to research just how bad they’re being screwed. Daniel “Put up with people blaming you?” …where did that come from? Take yourself out of the picture. I get it, the majority of Ubi’s recent games haven’t had the DLC or release date you desired. But there was literally no reason for Black Flag to not sell well, or Rayman for that matter. Who do you think you are to assume what ZombieU cost? You have no idea. If it sold well, we would see a sequel, just like Red Steel. Ubi are clearly turning their backs to Nintendo, but to discredit the volume of games they brought to Nintendo in the first 1.5years is unfair. Nintendo should be working with Ubi to cross promote…etc. Decker Shado That came from the very first thing you said. “Obviously Nintendo’s fan base didn’t purchase enough of their games for them to put out a 3rd AC game.” I’m in Nintendo’s fan base. Therefore, my refusal to purchase poorly handled ports missing features and long-term support would mean that the blame is on me for why Ubi is “turning their backs.” Yes, Ubi brought a great volume of games, and in those games a great volume of problems. I do not like 3rd parties treating Nintendo gamers at best like we’re inconsequential, and at worst like we’re idiots. So I do not support those practices. Ubi pulling out of future projects on the Wii U tells me that they’re not interested in treating Nintendo gamers with respect, and in that respect, I will no longer be purchasing Ubi games on any platform whatsoever. Now, Nintendo’s inability to sell the Wii U is all on Nintendo. They’ve fucked up in their own regard – but Ubi’s business is… Ubi’s business. Blaming Nintendo for not supporting them to the point of giving in to an unsustainable business model, or gamers for not buying whatever is thrown their way regardless of quality, is further encouraging these shitty business practices. Daniel I can understand the frustration you have towards 2nd rate 3rd party efforts. I too am a passionate Nintendo fan & gamer in general. The games industry is a business, and in business if something is not viable to do then it isn’t implemented. Basically, money talks and bullshit walks. Ubisoft are making their business deciscions the same as all the other big studios regarding the Wii U platform. Is it the 3rd parties fault that they lose more money on a game when Nintendo only protect and promote their own products? Whenever Nintendo is presented with the question: “Why arn’t you attracting 3rd parties to your system?” They usually repsond with “Our job is to drive the install base with our own software”. They do not factor in third party support, they do not offer them timed exclusive deals and they do not even attempt to cross promote. Heck, they barely promote themselves with TV/internet advertising. GTA, Destiny, Minecraft, EA sports, Bioshock, StreetFighter, Codemaster Racing games… These should all be on the system, Nintendo does not acknowledge these install basses because they have their head stuck up their asses. Nintendo are happy to have a small library of games on their consoles because it allows them to have a monopoly over their install base. Go to the eShop and count how many Nintendo franchises are promoted on the front page. On the Wii U box, how many 3rd party titles are shown on the box? Remeber when you used to be able to pick up a console from a store and it had picutres of 3rd party content on the box. Discs should come with a flyer that lets the consumer know what other great titles will be releasing. They do NONE of these things to support their 3rd parties. Nintendo know they have cornered the market and have positioned themselves as direct competitors to their own thrid party software. You can blame 3rd parties all you want, but when ALL of them are doing the same thing, you need to ask yourself a logical question which is WHY are all 3rd parties not delivering their content to the Wii U. The answer will be the same problem Nintendo has faced since the N64 era – they simply feel they do not NEED 3rd Parties. Adecentboy777 No surprise to me! I feel sorry for guys who have only Wii U and want more 3rd parties, cause there is only none. Nintendo, Nintendo…. Cédric Theys One day, Wii U will be the top-selling console, and all 3rd Party producers like CoD or AC will come back, pants full of shit, pleading to be produced for Wii U. Fiercedeitymelkor Keep dreaming. Commander Jim Lol. That seems unlikely… Cédric Theys And Wii U is in second place of best-selling consoles. Just sayin’ René Park Triolo It’s officially confirmed… there’s a special place in Hell reserved for Ubisoft. Brandos12 I remember when the Wii U was showcased at E3 years ago they proudly listed the increase of 3rd party support the console was receiving. It’s sad to see all these companies now ditching Nintendo. Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog Still We Have Assassin’s Greed Unity Fiercedeitymelkor No you don’t. Sonic 2099 The Hedgehog Oh Oops Bigjoe275 I’m very disappointed with nintendo. Why couldn’t they just get with the times. I would have bought a wii U over the ps4 and xbox one. Nintendo still rules when it comes to true first party titles. It’s a shame that these developers are leaving. I just pray nintendo survives this generation. And they come out with something that all developers will want to come back and support them once again. Agent721 This is why I’m a multi console gamer…. Guest I am done with Ubisoft! Won’t be getting a single more from them anymore! They have made sooooo much money out of Wii and not skipping WiiU like that? Fuck them! CydeFxt Just buy their games used, that’s what i’m gonna do on PS4. If i get Watchdogs on Wii U, it’ll be used. The Division? Used……Assassins Creed 5? Oh that’ll be a used purchase for me as well. I treat Ubisoft like EA. Untrentide Treating Ubisoft like EA seems to be a growing trend. I agree that Ubisoft games should definitely be bought used, if at all. I lost interest in their titles and haven’t really been enticed to try anything new in a while. jhell i bought the wii u because day said it will have more 3rd party this time around but i am use to it Petri Well, I thought the same, though that was not my reason. Third parties expected early Wii U adopters to be gamers that never gamed with any other than Wii. Hence 90% of games released were ports from last gen consoles, that early adopter most likely played already. Then started gimping and delaying, since they expected Wii U gamers not to have other options than their poor ports. Which led to this situation. Sure, Nintendo should have done more, they still could. But as long as they deliver me Bayonetta, I’m happy. As for this game, I would not buy it. My guess is, this will be their lowest budget AC game yet. Meant to squeeze last drops from the last gen. FIreproof_actual In other news…the sky is blue… Davidgr2 I got my Wii U for exclusives titles..I could care less about this last gen AC game. That game is gonna suck anyways. Switching from Xbox to Wii U/PS4 was the best decision ever. The Wii U is following the same path as the 3DS. it wasn’t that good when it came out but look at the 3DS now. Wii U & PS4 FTW!!